Fighting Back – How to Handle the Narcissist in Court
This Logic Bulletin provides you with a considerable array of information about how you deal with the narcissist at a court hearing.
Whether it is recovering money or property, a hearing about child arrangements, dealing with divorce or a dispute over a boundary there is a significant chance you will end up in court at some point with a narcissist.
This bulletin enables you to understand the a huge amount about attending the court hearing where a narcissist is involved and includes the following:-
- How the narcissist will behave in court, broken down between the different schools of narcissist
- What the narcissist wants from the court hearing
- How the narcissist will behave towards you at a court hearing
- How the narcissist will use Lieutenants and The Coterie at a court hearing
- What you can do to maximise your prospects of success at the court hearing
- How you should handle the narcissist at the court hearing
- How the narcissist will try to hoover you at this court hearing
- Key considerations you need to understand with regard to your lawyer, court officials and court experts
- How you should conduct yourself in the court hearing
- The standard manipulations you can expect from the narcissist
- A series of practical steps and “Best practice” for you to use to not only succeed but to avoid increase anxiety and upset with regard to the process
- Plus much, much more.
This Logic Bulletin will save you thousands in legal fees, hours of wasted time and reduce and remove your fear, anxiety and stress. It is available for the low price of just US $ 20 and is the best investment you will ever make with regard to being involved with the narcissist at a court hearing. To obtain this insightful material, just use the link below to access immediately detailed audio material.
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So today was my final hearing. There are no words to describe how it made me feel. I have gone through so much, my children have suffered needlessly all because of the rampant narcissism of my ex. The UMS.
A man who in HG’s own words, ‘Has traces of psychopathy’. Over this past few weeks, since Xmas, I have had to make the hardest decision any parent or abused person can make. Is it better to fight on and attempt some form of justice but equally, as my children do not know the worst of his abuses (because I have shielded them), they believe me to be ‘bad’ and him to be ‘good’ (Maslow et al).. That has been a very bitter pill to swallow but I also knew that this entire process, which has been rumbling on for two years was destroying my mental and physical health. Therefore the choice was clear; withdraw and live to fight another day or pursue and damage my children in the short term and have them hate me even more.
I’ve known that the battle for my children’s hearts was over, months ago. Now it was securing something. Making the Court aware.
They are now aware. Not necessarily in the way that I wish but I do believe that the Judge was fair and balanced in his summation. Not all Judges are ‘bent’. I do not think this one was. It was important for him to see ME today. He has granted in the past an extraordinarily about of lassitude which I thank him for.
He knew. He absolutely knew what had happened but his hands’ were legally tied.
I had a horrific meeting last week with a psychiatrist who UTTERLY let me down. He behaved in a completely unprofessional manner (UMC) and on the back of that; I almost didn’t attend Court. But over the past few days, my attitude changed It was good that I had put it out that I wasn’t going to because I was running a significant risk that I would be ‘ambushed’ by another EX. A MME at the Court itself. One more pressure to deal with.
So I carefully planned what I would wear, how I would react. This month is a very difficult one for me. I was determined that the Judge see me (we had never had sight of each other before). I wanted him to see me as calm, rational, intelligent and professional. I was equally determined that I would not allow what had happened to me would stp me going. I have the rest of my life to live and my conscience is clear.
NS: I succeeded. I walked in there looking like ‘A Boss’. A Queen. Think Jackie O with more than a side-dash of Marilyn.. I wore vintage. This time, I had a dear friend with me who had professional experience in the Courts.
Two amusing incidents happened today. The first was when we arrived at Court (this was the third time I had attempted to get to a Final Hearing), is that both my friend and I were so smartly dressed (him in a very nice three (THREE!) piece suit and lovely tie, were BOTH mistaken for Briefs! That’s still making me giggle now.
The second is that I STILL dont know what the Judge looks like! Because the video conference two way inexplicably showed the larger picture of me and the smaller one of the other Court. So he was away at the far end and was in shadow. Almost EXACTLY like HG in ‘HG wants to know’. Honestly? You could not make this shit up.
I am very proud of what I did today. I did not cry, I was clear, firm and articulate. Above all, the UMS did not receive any fuel from me. As I had predicted; he wore a shirt I had bought him.
A monumental miscarriage of justice has been happening. I need to be strong so that I can help my children when they need me. And they will.
I couldn’t have done this without the massive support of NS, my friend and above all, HG. Who has taught me how to gain control of my ER. Thank you. I will be forever in your debt.
This battle has been conceded but the war goes on. I hope and pray that my children will not be harmed. I have now been informed that they will be ‘watched like hawks’. That’s good enough, for now.
This hearing was never about them. It was about me. And now a giant supertanker of fuel has gone. Forever. For the first time in 24 years, tonight I have found peace. And although I technically conceded, I actually won. He will NEVER have me.
Tempus omnia revelat
And it will.
Renarde. ❤️❤️🍷🍷🍷❤️❤️
Kim e
Thankyou 💛 xxx
“As I had predicted; he wore a shirt I had bought him.”
Wotta tit-wanker.
Vi
Oh you have made me chuckle!
And he liked to do that too!
That’s why I was so careful what I wore. Hes never seen me in that outfit. My grandmothers outfit she wore to her daughters marriage to PN. Sombre.
When they got married, PN wore a bespoke suit. One day, bro and I thought it would be hilarious to find their wedding outfits and try them on. Was a nice suit. The only one.
I DO very much like a man in a good, well fitting suit. My friend did me very proud yesterday. Very. He looked amazing.
When PN retired, she took 18! suits to charity. All of them crap.
My ex should have worn one. But he didnt because he has NO IDEA how to wear them. It’s the old joke.
‘What do you call a Scouser in a suit?’
‘The Accused’
Oh Renarde, I am glad you posted that update.
I can’t really explain why at this time – but I get where you’re at. I would get too emotional even trying to type it. I get where you’re at in more than one way.
Hugs!
WC
Thank you! Means so much x
x
*applauds*
Congratulations Renarde!
See that inner strength and light shine!
You will always be their mum, despite how he tries to poison and influence them. Children are incredibly curious, intelligent and forgiving. In time, they will reach out to you I’m sure.
Keep being brave in the face of adversity, you took charge today! You bossed it!
I totally agree about NS and HG! He reminds us of the strength we have inside, it’s always been there but he rekindles it and there is no going back after that! First day of the rest of your life Renarde 🙂
PV!
I’ve not sen you for a while. Thank you so much for your comment!
I do hope so regarding the children. I think my son will be first. My daughter second. She has now been taught to mistrust women. I know she wont cling to him either. My darling will retreat.
I saw the IPPS today. First time in maybe a year. You are right. Absolutely. First day of the rest of my life but it isnt for her.
I felt a strange mixture of empathy, sympathy and compassion. She is very blinkered. I wondered what I’d be like if the positions were reversed. We all want to believe we would do the right thing but would we?
You know, even though I oercieve she has been triangular like fuck with me, she would occasionally buy me presents. How kind is that?
She is his tool. One day she told me that the only reason she was following me was that she loved my writing.
At the time I didnt believe her. Now I do.
Thankyou for commenting my love! X
I just got a full “no contact by any means” court order after 11 charges and 2 convictions for breaching a protection order by my ex narc. I made sure I had no contact in court. “screened off” and kept in safe area and the magistrate ordered a remote video link for any future court dates in an undisclosed location. This infuriated my ex and he refused representation as he is better than all the authorities and professionals as you have pointed out. This then infuriated the magistrate and has made matters so much worse for him.
So in court. Prep, prep, prep, lawyer up, no direct or indirect contact, even visual (that is what really pissed him off) and let them spiral and make their own hole.
It is after all now just a business deal and you need to remove all emotions and fuel. Get the best outcome for you to move on and refuel yourself for you. HG Tudor its an awesome site btw
Thank you
I really recommend HG’s consultations on matters concerning the Court. Most people never step foot in one and it’s a very very steep learning curve.
It is also very nerve-wracking and especially when children are involved. The family court system in the UK is a god-awful mess. The cool and steady head of HG will help.
Thank you Renarde.
Renarde, my ex just has to bring his girlfriend to court and it helps me. It is like an episode of Prison Break! I used to like that show quite a bit. I am not kidding, she has street cred now after being placed into the legal system with assault & trespassing charges. I wish my mother were here to be appalled with me. No one else could express disdain in such a haughty manner as my mother. She was a hilarious snob.
Thanks for this informative insight. I have a high-level ex in a wheelchair whorepresents himself. Therefore he paints an effective picture of being a victim, and judges put his rights remarkably above that of the children. He will demand physical assistance in court when none is needed, and waves his arms around while crying about his disability, and this makes me (the only one on this side of the bench) look uncaring for not reacting or bending over backwards to deal with each new physical demand. Any advice for how to effectively ignore him (or not fuel him) without looking like I’m awful?
Your empathic trait of guilt is being manipulated by your Emotional Thinking to try to make you assist him or do something which means you will engage with him. You do not need to help him and you are being made to think you look awful when you are not. He is your ex, you do not have any obligation to assist him. The people at court will not consider you to be awful. Maintain ignoring him and if you require further assistance with this process I recommend that you organise a consultation.
Thank you. I definitely will take you up on that as the next step approaches. I appreciate this website.
Thank you, HG. This is a helpful post. This may require a consultation but in general how would you counsel someone to make a decision regarding whether or not to move forward with criminal charges with an ex-narc?
I would need more information about the circumstances and the narcissist concerned and therefore an audio consultation is the appropriate forum.
This has some great tips! Thank you for sharing. My son’s father is not a narc because he is not very suave with people. He’s definitely another high conflict personality along with OCD. For those looking, the most info I’ve found was based on custody conflict with NPD and not so much with HCP. However, as you can see NPD’s & HCP’s have a lot of the same tactics and behaviors. Bill Eddy seems to know his stuff on HCP and I’m about to read his book on High Conflict in Legal Disputes. Good luck to those that have been desperate enough to try and find some sense to all the madness you must be experiencing. LOVE!
So HG – you mention bringing someone to court with you as support. My ex has never seen my new man, but knows of his existence. Would this be the best person to wheel out as a support in this setting or the worst? I can’t work out if this will unsettle him or will push him to new heights of entitlement, and therefore make my settlement harder to obtain. My ex is definitely a Covert Narc. Thanks
He is likely to work out that this person is your new partner and this will wound him. This will result in an ignition of fury and thus he will be unsettled causing him to respond in a manner to gain fuel.
I am terrified for my life and I am going to let my ex husband have the girls because he need to get his status here and it isnt worth my life. Maybe he will give them back when he is done or maybe not. I refuse to feel fearful because of these monsters.
HG,
Thanks for this post. I have to adhere to what you saying when I show up in court in 10 days.
Short story is my wife is a narcissist. Sometimes I feel like she is lesser, sometimes mid-range and to be honest sometimes I think she is the Greater kind. I am confused but you know why that is.
I read your reply to “Do narcissists miss their previous sources of supply once discarded?” on Quora and you are spot on. I found out on my own she has a new supply. Long story short, she filed a restraining order against me and yanked my out of my own home and I can’t see my kids.
Accusations are harassment and she fears me (this is total BS, but you already know that). My lawyer recognizes the fact that I have been abused by her for 18 years. She is suggesting to file a counter restraining order against her. I am not sure what this will do. If I were to go through with this, what should I expect from her? What would be her reaction? I suppose I am trying to find out if this would be to my advantage or not?
BI
This is a detailed matter Bek and best addressed through consultation.
HG, I understand and will look into it. I know win at all cost is the game your kind plays. In general though, why don’t your kind just go away after they have found a new supply and are riding high on new fuel?
Bek
This may help explain why they just don’t go away after they are done with you.
Hoover fuel is potent because of the contrast and the break from your fuel, but also because we are drawing it from someone who may well have resisted our overtures – or ought to have done so – and this provides us with a huge sense of omnipotence.
https://narcsite.com/2018/01/06/why-does-the-narcissist-get-rid-of-you-2/
K, this is an instance where I can imagine HG sending the comment through and saying quietly to himself, “K’s got this one.” It’s awesome to see the teamwork! Love y’all ❤️
MB
Hahahaha…teamwork is a good thing!
Bek, I strongly urge you to get the 1 hour audio consult with HG before court! It will be the best money you ever spent. My best.
MB
I won my case agains a full blown Narcissistic
If you do only one tip of their advice
Do not make eye contact or acknowledge that they are in the room.
Even after I won , he’s such a to the letter Narcissistic…he actually told people that he had me whipped but that he let me off easy …piece of worthless f∆€¥
I still fantasize about him being back to normal, im in denial of it being over ..
That is SO sad after all he has done to me.
SuzzyQ
Glad to hear about your victory. Thanks for the battle tips.
Tudor,
Thank you for sharing your expertise with such depth and clarity. The narcissist i share a child with is probably between the mid and greater. She is subtle, devious, and calculated but a little sloppy. Not as skilled as you. My question is if I should start to not look at her and avoid acknowledging her before our next courtroom drama performance or if i should surprise her with it just before the trial
Surprise her with what, not looking at her?
Yes and other appropriate forms of ignoring her.
Yes, I am referring to the perceived criticism that you mention by actions or inaction like not looking at the Narc and other types of appropriate ignoring. My question was if I should initiate this type of ignoring immediately or wait moths until just before the court appearance that way it would hit her like a surprise just before court?
Do it now.
Tudor you are full of crap
A quick word from my agent there.
Jesus, that made me laugh!
HG, you are so lovable from a distance.
Hello everyone,
My narc ex. Is the greater. Within two months of us separating he met another woman, stop talking to me, which was fine with me, however he is taking me to family court for our 14 year old son. He wants Sole legal and physical custody. He wants to move our son out of the Country, because he new GF lives there. He has isolated my son from me, refused to allow me to visit and tells our son it’s my fault he can’t travel because I won’t sign the passport. Now the petition he filed he hasn’t made a move. I had to go to the court to file a request for a hearing. He refused to sit down and talk about what’s best for our child. We are heading to meditation. I wonder how this will play out? Since he doesn’t want to communicate, he just wants to win. Meanwhile I haven’t had contact with my son in months,
This is such a gift. Thank you. My Mid Ranger ex is threatening to drag me through the courts over property settlement and visitation rights to my kids (not his) and I’m trying to prepare myself for the oncoming battle.
My ex/child’s father shows many signs of narcissism (emotial abuse, lack of empathy, no intimacy, infidelity…). He works with special needs kids for a living, and seems to connect with some of them (or at least pretends to). Is it physically possible for a narcissist to be a good parent?
How to discourage a narc from filing a lawsuit against me? He is furious i got the inheritance he thought he would get, and threatens lawsuit if i dont give it up.
Hello Emily, I would need to know the school of narcissist, the circumstances surrounding the lawsuit, the precise nature of the threatened lawsuit (to the extent you know) and your relationship to the narcissist, amongst other matters and that would be best achieved through consultation.
what happens when a well prepared courtcase campaign is succesful leading to total financial/personal loss for narc?
school: low with some features of middle
Substantial wounding.
Hi Jenny I would like to thank you for my upcoming court action to achieve contact with my four children. But if I thank you. Have I learnt? Am I giving you my energy ( fuel) control? Etc
Thanks for your clear understanding
John
Great article…..thank you
You are welcome.
Wow this is such a good article and so helpful. Thank you for the information on how to fight back against someone that has no remorse, no accountability for their actions, plays a victim when there a predictor, and they take what they want.
You are welcome.
I’m currently in a situation with my narc ex. He basically wont return a car I paid for. The only reason it had to be put in his name is because im currently medically restricted from driving and last year we made the agreement that it would still be my car (I just cant be the one driving it until im healed). I didnt want it under my moms name because shes already a narc and my dad lives out of state. Am thinking of taking the ex to court because he won’t return my car after the break up. I even made a deal that we can sell it and he can keep half the funds (he already has his own car anyways) but he refuses. In fact, what hurt the most is that he wouldn’t do this after he found out about my medical condition getting worse. Im a young adult in college with organ failure and need funds for surgery ASAP. I wanted him to take my car I paid for off his name so I can sell it and use the funds for surgery so I don’t potentially die. Is that too much to ask??? 🙁
This is awesome advice – very timely. Nearly ten years later, we are back in court. Ten years ago, nothing like your site existed on the web – so glad it does now, thank you.
You are welcome.
How will a narcisist react if they know you have managed to get a case against them re opened and they face court and exposure and possible jail ?
It depends on the school of narcissist.
I believe I’m dealing with a greater narcissist. I’m terrified. Can you offer additional advice for this level?
Absolutely. Consultation is the appropriate forum.
You were correct as usual HG. I honestly didn’t think he (ex midrange child molester) would ever deploy a sympathy, pity play in court. He did! Just as you said he would. So glad Judge Tudor was not presiding! He was not having any of his bs. This was a hearing to modify the conditions of his bond. He wants off the gps monitor. The monitor is big, bulky and humiliating. Therefore his dating, gym and boating days are over.
He has not broken the court ordered no contact, but he did everything in his power to try and get my attention in the court room. Thanks to your advise I didn’t even give him the satisfaction of eye contact. I arrived late with a support person. I sat in the back and turned to her every time he would turn around to look at me. We would talk, smile & laugh…I could feel this wounding him. I wrote the Judge and gave the letter to the States Attorney just prior to court so that he and his attorney would not have long to discuss it. I watched as he and his attorney read over my letter. When counsel got up to hand the letter back to the state, he put his head in is hands, then in his lap. After he lost his pathetic argument, I turned my back to him as he left the courtroom.
This was the first time I felt any hope. I seized the power and it was such a tremendous relief. All thanks to you HG! I could not have done this without you!!
Thank you SSS, I am pleased to see that this was the case.
HG Tudor…I’m glad I found your site. I was attacked by a low range last year on April Fool’s day, the irony right? and yep he nearly killed me. He called that eve after no contact for a week. I said I was busy going to watch the game and hung up…big mistake..bastard stalked me watch me come home get undressed and go to sleep. He took my truck, cash and cellphone as I slept came back at 4 am yelling and attacked me broke my phone and punched me repeatedly in my face, strangled me until I had petichae, then pulled out a fully loaded 45 and pressed it my side until it broke my skin. I have did no contact this entire time until sentencing last week when I read my victim impact statement. I dominated the courtroom. You could hear a pen drop. The judges mouth fell open. He got up wit his fluttering eyes just like you said. He brought his new supply chic, like I give a damn. She next. He kept staring me down and talked above my head on his way to podium. I got well wishes from strangers, police gave me thumbs up and a escort to my vehicle. Smh
Wow, thank you for sharing your story. It gives me hope. I had a similar experience and am in the beginning stages of this process. I’m curious about what you put in your victim statement; I’m struggle with what to put in mine and even considering not writing one, as maybe that will be more cutting to him.
You were correct as usual HG. I honestly didn’t think he (ex midrange child molester) would ever deploy a sympathy, pity play in court. He did! Just as you said he would. So glad Judge Tudor was not presiding! He was not having any of his bs. This was a hearing to modify the conditions of his bond. He wants off the gps monitor. The monitor is big, bulky and humiliating. Therefore his dating, gym and boating days are over.
He has not broken the court ordered no contact, but he did everything in his power to try and get my attention in the court room. Thanks to your advise I didn’t even give him the satisfaction of eye contact. I arrived late with a support person. I sat in the back and turned to her every time he would turn around to look at me. We would talk, smile & laugh…I could feel this wounding him. I wrote the Judge and gave the letter to the States Attorney just prior to court so that he and his attorney would not have long to discuss it. I watched as he and his attorney read over my letter. When counsel got up to hand the letter back to the state, he put his head in is hands, then in his lap. After he lost his pathetic argument, I turned my back to him as he left the courtroom.
This was the first time I felt any hope. I seized the power and it was such a tremendous relief. All thanks to you HG! I could not have done this without you!!
I have lost all faith in the justice system through being a journalist, reporting on crimes and criminal cases and seeing the media corrupted as it is. This was before I sought help for domestic violence, when narc police told me to ‘move on’ or re-traumatising me by playing with me. The Victims of Crime counsellors were narcissists. I even got hoovered from them via emails long after I told them I didn’t need help.
This is a stinking, disgusting world where you’re on your own.
I think that’s why I came to identify with my narc family. Not because I loved them but because they were right in so many ways.
How does a narcissist feel seeing an empath acting like one of them? Or at least, playing without a conscience?
Most narcissists do not know what they are so they would not recognise an empath acting like on of them.
Wow HG!!! Were you in the courtroom when my victimized alcoholic narcissist sued me? I was sued over a house that I bought with my ex. He wouldn’t take a reasonable buyout (he demanded 3x the amount) and he sued me to force the sale instead. After he discarded and sued me, I discovered some stolen intellectual property from his company in the house. Yes, I turned him in. As a result, he lost his 6-figure high-profile job, he lost his professional reputation, he is facing federal charges for misappropriation, he lost money in legal fees, at the last court hearing he had been unemployed for a year, and the judge gave me all the possessions that he left behind when he discarded me and moved in with his new supply (about 20k in new appliances and furniture that he bought). To add insult to injury, he was ordered to pay 1/2 the mortgage on the house that he no longer lived in while unemployed and until there was a resolution. And (to the judges dismay) he kept fighting me. In the end, I agreed to sell the house and his payout barely covered his legal fees. It didn’t cover the money lost on the mortgage payments for the house he couldn’t enjoy. It wasn’t worth losing his livelihood. What gives? Why wouldn’t he just take the buyout and his new supply and move on?
Because he wanted to continue to fight you to draw fuel and to punish you.
As in Othello act 5 scene 2 wicked I’d say
You are definitely a lawyer …
I’m definitely not.
I’m a Henry VI part 2 act iv scene 2 kind of fellow
Just like Jack Cade, you despise lawyers.
Bunch of ball washing bastards.
Correct. The entire profession is making money out of the misery and heartache of others.
What’s the difference between a lawyer and a catfish?
One is a filthy, slimy, scum-sucking bottom-dweller. The other is a fish.
Is there any way at all of stripping away that sense of entitlement that they have?
It is always there but wounding is one way to significantly dent it.
HG,
Should I anticipate the same fight from my Narc who is facing a life sentence? The charges against him are humiliating. I had hoped he may except a plea deal to prevent further embarrassment during a lengthy trial.
Yes you should.
Thank you for the artical. If we can ever get a court date I am confident the decision will not please my ex.
I am worried about what a narc does after what he percieves as a loss. I can’t find any articals on this topic.
Generally speaking, a loss equates to criticism which wounds. This will invariably result in the ignition of fury dependent on the type of narcissist.
From studying your work and other materials, I do see the reality of this risk. Would you say it may sometimes be rational to drop a case that we could win, in favour of staying safe, staying no contact, and moving on with life?
Absolutely.
this is one of your finest posts. And had me chuckling actually. You damn damn people are lunatics!!. Lol. Although not so amusing when one is in the midst of it; this article was rather amusing, TUDOR.
It seems to me that many different characters write your posts. Whether it is your various personas or actual various people, this one is the best methinks.
Thank you. No, it is always me that writes the articles, deals with the comments etc etc, I am an army of one.
Could you tell me how this would play out with a mid range charged with a criminal offense? This is a life felony for lewd and lascivious molestation of a child. Is there any chance he would not fight and except a plea deal to save the embarrassment of a trial? Other aspects of his secret life will be exposed as well. I don’t see him admitting to any of these horrific acts, yet just being charged should expose him for who he really is, thus… no more masks – game over. I would greatly appreciate your feedback. Thank you HG.
Great advice, HG.
Great information! Your last line was tongue in cheek I know, but it can be quite a carnival when the Judge and/or Lawyer, Chief Investigator, witnesses, etc are Narcs. I’m sure the theatre of it all is the cause of many cases being dragged out longer than need be.
In a humourous aside: StepN went to court for careless driving with my Mother in tow (who has been ordered to repeat his version in an endless loop to get it right). They appear before the Judge and he tells his version (complete horseshit and of course not his fault).
Judge: Thank you. Now I would like to (turning to focus on my Mother) ask a few questions of your wife. Mrs……..
StepN: (interrupting) What do you want to talk to her for? Shes only going to tell you the same thing!
(Courtroom erupts in laughter)
Judge: (still smiling) Well that may be the case but I would like to hear it from her.
StepN: (does the dramatic shrug and ok face with palms held out)
(More courtroom laughter)
He gets off with a slap on the wrist
Funny but not really.
I’m learning a lot
Thank you H.G
You are welcome.
My friend is dealing with a divorce case now with her narc… Thank you will be carefully translating it for her this weekend ❤
Thank you very much for this post and also for the other two you posted last year, HG. Very valuable information.
You are welcome EB
Thank you HG !
You are welcome Jenny.
HG Tudor why do narcs represent themselves in court? My ex narc is facing assault charges against me he has been told to find legal representation and is refusing?
We know better than some ball-washing bastard of lawyer, clearly. Sense of entitlement, lack of accountability, self-delusion, victim mentality (not my fault, their fault).
Its amusing that I have never seen any avalanche of posts and comments addressing your use of ball-washing bastards to describe those in the legal profession. Im sure there are some here, as well as family members etc. Gee I wonder why that is…