The Narcissistic Truths – No. 83
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HG. But (there is that three letter word again) you are admitting it whether it be on a blog or wherever, like in your mind…and (there is another three letter word; my counting skills are on par today) that is no small task.
Thank you
You are welcome, HG.
Thank you, Indy. I understand that now a little bit better. I do come from a family with a narcissistic background too, but it is , compared to others, only a pin in my thigh, where others had to endure a punching ball at their face. I believe that makes the difference. I had been appreciated by so many people all of my life, that the influence of my narcissistic mother is not that strong as for other people. And I believe, I have been grown up in a world, where women were allowed to emancipate themselves. I was encouraged by friends, society and even my father to go my own way and never to obey an authority or a man, unless I see some sense in their behaviour or thoughts.(Sometimes that causes problems) Nevertheless, I had been a victim of a narcissist/ psychopath too. He only adapted his behaviour to my opinions. I agree, HG never mistreated women here on his blog, but he is and remains a narcissist with strong psychopathic traits, who follows his egocentric aims without
empathy, remorse or regrets. Sorry, but I cannot fall in love with you, HG.
But I would like to do some knockout drops in your cocktail to see what happens. Sorry, but the whole day, I have to think about it. Instead of cucumber slices some knockout drops. Sorry Indy, but at another topic they talked about cocktails. And I always had this thought. What would happen with him, if he got a knockout drop?
Indy and HG, do you have an answer why so many of the females here fall in love with HG virtually? I do not understand that and I would like to hear answers of you both from different perspectives.
Hi Mona, thank you for asking my opinion. I think the reasons are varied from individual to individual here. I only can give a few that come to my mind.
this is the first time many women have been validated that they are not crazy and that they are being mistreated. They are being listened to and supported here by HG. This creates A sense of both gratitude and for some it’s very attractive as well. A similar process occurs when somebody goes to therapy and develops a deep relationship with their therapist and develops feelings for their therapist, transference. It is normal and common.
HG is very attractive in the qualities he presents here such as his charm, humor, intelligence, and amazing voice. He doesn’t mistreat his readers. He’s respectful. These qualities and more are attractive and allow women to become infatuated by him while getting through a very difficult time in their life.
Some are lonely from being isolated and disrespected by past or current narcicists and are vulnerable.
All of us were targeted by narcissists for a reason, usually due to being empathic and some vulnerability or value. Many have an inner urge to fix and save. HG shows such strong cognitive empathy that it may give hope to some here that he can be healed. This aspect can lead to some being curious and enamored.
There are the very few crazy deluded ones, like all public figures with alluring personalities , HG has his crazy ones that follow him. Most here do not fall into that category though.
Finally, HG has helped many women take control and save their own lives. This leads to feelings of wishing to give back and a level of caring. Like the transference reference above with therapists.
This is only a very few reasons and I am sure other readers could add more😊
And I know HG had other perspectives as well.
Indy,
I do want to thank you very much for your detailed answer. I understand that now a little bit better,although it is still a little bit strange for me.
Hi Mona,
And your reaction is entirely normal 😊There are so many individuals here with unique responses and have unique circumstances too.
Lol that pic is funny! You know it still amazes me youre a narcissist HG. I know youve explained it before being a greater and all but i keep thinking if i wondered onto this site not knowing you were a narc id look at these narc truths and think you were a fellow victim based on the sheer honesty about narcissists. The fact you dont feel injury posting these about your kind. Youre admitting to a lot of fault and weakness thru these truths.
It is part of informing you and of course it has no impact on me privately so I can make these admissions here. On the part of the brethren, not me, naturally.
Hi HG…it has no impact on you but even for a non narc its hard to admit to deeply ingrained ways of thinking that are not healthy especially when theyve become habit and a way of life. An existence. Its hard to admit to this and with a narcissists mind frame of never doing wrong i see that as a huge step being able to do so. I dont think its just a greater narc thing either bc many greater narcs would never be able to do what youre doing even for money, acknowledgement etc Theyd much rather obtain that in other ways. Doing what you do requires self reflection something a narcissist detests.
I agree with your last sentence. I have learned to use it to my advantage. I can reflect, I recognise the Alt Perspective but I remain unmoved, unrepentant and without regret or remorse.
Do you think trying your experiment to isolate yourself and see how long you can handle no fuel sources would cause a different sort of self-reflection that would move you or cause some regret or remorse?
I would have plenty of time to self-reflect, but I do not possess regret or remorse, whether that will arise from this isolation or not remains to be seen.
I agree Narc Affair, it boggles my mind too. The level of awareness of his own traits is rare.thats what makes the greater so dangerous. They can mimic and understand us so well ( including how we view them) and know their own traits equally as well. Notice that no matter how seemingly brutal he is on writing about the traits, there is no apology for them. This difference in perspective and value system is what makes it so hard for us to truly comprehend his ability to write such things about himself and his brethren. He sees it as not a problem at all, while we do.
I am frequently questioning this too, NarcAffair. I have moments of understanding and then I slip out again.
Hi indy…i agree but even without an apology i find its an accomplishment admitting to it. Its admiittance. Thats something my mother could never do. Im not so sure many greater narcs could do this. It goes against their ethical code. They despise admitting to any wrong doing or fault. I do see the distinction writing about narcissists but in some of the writings HG does admit to things he done. Theres no apology but admitting is a huge step imo.
I would never admit it outside of this forum.
Hi NA,
I agree, even admitting is huge. I do wonder if this is more of an upper greater or a middle greater quality. Would a low greater ever admit to this even in a private blog. You make very good points NA.
I can’t help but keep circling around that too with HG admitting his behavior traits. I feel he’s at that fork in the road and as he says his protocol for operating works for him and he sees no reason to change. But I sense he’s curious about changing if presented with a beneficial reason enough to explore. And I say that because although this is part of him working on a “Grand Design” to take down MatriNarc. Once that happens, he would have every reason to stop this journey then and I don’t think he will.
Hi MLA,
I know this cycle of thinking as I did this wayyyyyy too long for wayyyyy too many exes. And, I understand you and others here, we all are empaths. We want him to see the beauty of the world we experience. He’s a rare one, he’s so aware. We want so many things for him and his ability and “potential”(see that word), is so “promising”. (That word too)
How many of us have stayed too long because someone has “potential”? (Raises my hand)
For me I interpret it in simple terms. His change is reliant on healing his addiction.
He’s an addict to fuel and will make every excuse under the sun to make his addiction ok for him and fool himself into thinking it does work for him, fully. And some days he believes this too. (Sorry, HG, that was harsh on my part, though as you say, brutal honesty is sometimes the best to break through the fog). you can paint me black. Just don’t stalk me or anything. (Wonders if reverse psychology was too obvious as she looks out window 😂
HG is not perfectly fine with they way things are (despite denials)….he is addicted to the world’s emotional reactions to him. Period. He has the urge, itch, need. Chained to it, a slave to it.
I have heard many addicts say “when I get a job then I will quit”. “When I get my mood regulated, then I will quit”. “When I am healed, then I will quit.”
It’s all Stalling, future faking, making others get off their back.
Addiction is a bitch. One that kills, directly and indirectly.
I hope, sure…more than that though, I accept that HG is HG. He does good for many, hurts others too. …and I will try my best to avoid his crosshairs.😂
Now, what are our addictions?
Search fearlessly and nonjudgmentally.
I have a few.
Fucking smart men…
N fuck my impaired drunken spelling… tonite, i CELEBRATE..
Oooops
Listening …. to what? Listening to thatbwhich does not exist… so sue me…
Talking head. Yes, we must liaten.