The Narcissistic Truths – No. 123
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“There are no incurable diseases, only patients, who do not want to be cured.” Socrates
Tell that to the “common cold”.
I like Socrates, but that is some Deepak Chopra nonsense.
Socrates also taught the limits of knowledge, that meaning isn’t automatically shared (like liberal ’empathy’ and other religions tells us) —and that desire leads us through internal transformations by bringing into conflict existential vs animal life, longing for connection and our own self-interested isolation, on a voyage of nostalgia. He rejected mathematics in favour of a more aesthetic-emotion based insight: what is the difference between the lover and the beloved? How can desire mature into wisdom, by becoming ever more abstract, we are led by the beauty of the young lover, then the beauty of the heart then the beauty of the highest ideals, scientific discoveries, artistic creations and social values. So, there ya go!
Mona
Thats true about it getting boring. I am instantly turned off someone if they immediately agree to something just to keep the peace but you know they think differently. Also if they argue just to hear themselves, unless they say they are playing Devils advocate. I want to hear what people honestly think whether I agree or not. It is how I learn and consider/adopt other viewpoints. I consider it cowardly when people call it confrontation instead of discussion when they dont agree, or agree with everything you say just to stay friendly. I cant wrap my head around someone as intelligent as HG thinking that they are always right when they know intellectually that some people are only telling them what they want to hear to shut them up in most cases. They are causing their own ridicule. Something that they accuse others of and ignites their fury. When asked why they do it, some yes-men will admit that it ends the Narcs tirade and helps the yes-man achieve their own goals (something they want from the Narc). So again, its all back to perspective. The Narc perspective is that they are the “doers” but the “done to” perceive it as allowing the Narc their delusion to acheive what they need or want also.
True.
The inability to admit the mistakes is an Achilles’ heel of any Narc. Trying to prove their rightness whatever the cost, they “bury” themselves alive.
Such rigid mind-set gives the possibilty to manipulate and destroy the Narc using his/her own “hands”. And I witness exactly that way of “destruction” at my work now…
He is a Greater Narc, high-ranking, ambitious and successful person. We aren’t friends, we work at different departments, but we worked on several projects together.
He made one substantial mistake. They told him that he was wrong. Instead of saying “Yes, I was wrong. So what? Which of you don’t make mistakes, huh? Rise your hand, please!”, he started the war.
Knowing that he would protect his “rightness” whatever the cost, they push him harder, create certain situations and provoke him to make new mistakes. And, being the “prisoner” of his own mind-set, he does them (wrong decisions, wrong steps). He gradually loses his power, his authority and his position. Those who never ever imagined themselves attacking him, do it openly now.
We met one another at elevator today morning accidentially. I stood silently and scrutinized his face.
He said finally “I know, Noname, I look awful”.
I said “You have to stop”.
“I can’t. It is too late”.
“You are killing yourself”.
“I know. And if I’m going to die, I’ll take several persons with me to the hell to entertain me there”.
“What about your future?”
“I’ve never had any future, Noname. From the beginning”.
“You always had it”.
“In that case, I had no one who would told me that. But now it is too late, Noname. Too late…”. He said it with fey smile and then paternally patted my head… Sad.
That’s how the “I must be right whatever the cost” mind-set works against Narcs. It is their Achilles’ heel.
I have learnt that the differences between people and the different opinions of people are interesting. If someone always agrees and has the same opinion like me or the opposite always insists on his opinion, it gets boring and disappointing very fast. It is important to have the same values, but not the same opinion.
You must be right at all costs. Life is trial and error. And it is beautiful to learn something new and change the own opinion. It is not nice if someone changes his opinion every minute. There are a lot of people who do that. It is not only the privilege of a narc.
And many do end up in prison. I watch forensics files a favorite show and knowing more about narcissism id say all the criminals were narcissists. Some lessers and some midrangers as well as successful greaters that felt they could beat the system. All felt they were above the law and had to be right. Fury/greed/jeoulousy momentarily clouded their reasoning and they had to be right in the way they felt. The system proved them wrong and they eventually ended up behind bars and most still have their sense of superiority even in prison. They will never admit wrong unless as sn act to try and get out sooner.
Whatever the cost?!
😣😖😰😥😢😓😫
Sometimes u scare me 😔
Making this my screen saver! This day is getting closer!
I suspect prison fuel is much like prison food. Hope he starves!
Hello Numb,
It is interesting that you see this from the narcissist’s perspective.
I see it from the other side:
The person entangled with the narcissist stays in the relationship with the hope( the idea) that he/se is right that the good sides shown by the narcissist during the golden period ( when being ensnared) are true paying whatever cost it takes to bring back those good sides making her /him cling to this false idea/hope.The longer he/she stays in the relationship with the narcissist hoping that that would happen the higher cost is paid ..being the highest cost to eventually to be caged /slaved in this hope.
You are right SuperXena,
I see it from that perspective now as well. I wonder which perspective HG is referring tp.
My ex N is facing life in prison. He MUST be right, therefore he will not except a plea agreement. He will take this to trial against his own attorney’s advise and (God willing) he will lose. He will never admit defeat however. His attorney didn’t represent him properly, the judge was bias or the jury got it wrong… at least thats my prediction.
My only hope these days is for justice.
Hello Numb,
Yes I think the perspective was as you interpreted it from the narcissist’s perspective. From your story it is amazing to see how far some of them are willing to go just for the sake of being right. Your story is an example of this….perhaps it is just the case with the schools with low cognitive function/awareness risking it all ( even being in jail) just to show they are right.
When I saw the image I related it to me immediately since I felt like that: caged /trapped when I was with him…
wouldn’t it be annoying as heck to have someone agree with everything u say oh well I think in getting the silent treatment from u lol u never answer my comments /inserts sad emoji here
You do not receive silent treatments on this blog.
Hmmmm….I have just stated a few minutes ago that you were wrong on a previous post to me and now I open this article!!!! I am so glad that you are a “virtual narc” and there is a big pond between us………..Diva
I agree……no silent treatment……mores the pity……as I have received the odd response from HG when I would have actually preferred the silent treatment………Diva
well that’s good to know lol I was beginning to wonder