Understanding the Fuel Matrix
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All narcissists have fuel matrices and you need to understand where you fit into that fuel matrix and how that particular matrix functions as part of protecting yourself.
This Logic Bulletin takes you through :-
1. The Fuel Matrices of all sub schools of narcissist. This includes updated and expanded information about the Upper Lesser Type A and Upper Lesser Type B Narcissists, plus the Middle Mid Range Type A and Type B Narcissists.
2. What the Fuel Matrices look like, their size, the nature of the matrices and who sits in them.
3. How the relevant narcissist of each sub school relies on the individuals in the Fuel Matrix
4. What the Virtual Fuel Matrix is and how it operates.
5. How a Long Distance Appliance fits into it the narcissist fuel matrix and how that functions.
6. Detailed descriptions of each sub-school of narcissist, their behaviours and actions to increase your understanding of the different types of narcissist. This is a comprehensive expansion which will help you understand a lot more about the way different sub schools of narcissist operate.
A fascinating and educational exploration of the fuel matrix and the interaction between you and the narcissist, this is essential to know how the narcissist behaves so you can ensure your No Contact Regime is as effective as possible. It is also advanced reading for those who feel they are well-acquainted with the narcissistic dynamic from their existing reading and consultations.
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Hey HG,
In your book, “Sitting Target”, you mentioned that the victim lower and middle midrange narcissist look for a smaller IPPS because he is prone to physical violence.
1. So, is it still true that the VLMRN and VMMRN narcissist physically abuses their IPPS?
2. Does the VLMRN and VMMRN rape his victims too? Such as IPPS and IPSS?
1. All narcissists have the capability to physically abuse their victims, some do, some do not and those that do, do so in differing ways dependent upon a variety of factors.
2. I have answered this elsewhere.
HG,
I entered the wrong email address so I have to start over with this comment.
I know 3 narcissists who write in a robotic manner like this in email and as text messages: (of course the subject of these sentences would change accordingly with the topic of discussion)
Example:
Will discuss at a later time
Not feeling well
Talk soon
I know a 4th narcissist who is a Elite Upper Midranger and he does not write in the robotic format. He writes in a regular sentence and paragraph format like normal people and uses “I” such as “I can ..”, “I will …”, etc. etc.
1. So, does the Elite Upper Midranger write in that robotic format, too? I never seem him write that way in our emails.
2. And why does he not write in that robotic format like the other 3 narcissists then? He is a teacher, too.
I think that is text speak as opposed to anything to do with narcissism. I do not use text speak because I find it lazy, I write in sentences in emails and texts, I do not use emojis and I do not use LOL, LMAO etc.
Us “old schoolers” text in complete sentences with proper punctuation. My kids give me hell over it! If you ever see me use LOL, have me committed…some alien force has taken over my brain!
But emojis are awesome! My narc texted an emoji ONCE and I asked if somebody had his phone. I was shocked, but it felt all warm and fuzzy because he DOES NOT do emojis, ever! Try it just once for effect HG. Come on…you know you want to 😘
I hate lol and emoji and dont use them other than here. I find it necessary here because people dont know me and often mistake my sense of humor for something else.
LOL is one letter shorter than typing out Haha too. Depending who / where I’m communicating I use Lol if I want to make sure something I’m saying that could maybe sound sarcastic, isn’t being taken too seriously and that I’m kidding around.
My best friend always says that depending on someone’s mood a text can always be read with two different meanings. So I try to stay cognizant of that.
Haha. I only use haha to mix it up from lol.
You keep this blog on its toes NA!
Oooh! I love emojis. Lots of my texts (sent and received) are just emojis. The only thing I don’t like is there’s often just not the one I want.
Windstorm, we must be seesters!
MB
You reminded me of something humorous. My relationship with my Moron in Munich was almost exclusively texting. Near the onset when he was still attempting to lovebomb, he began ending every text with 💔.
This made me pause, so I diplomatically asked him what he meant. He said some romantic BS that it was symbolic of how our two incomplete hearts had come together to form a whole heart. I just laughed to myself and thought it was funny. But in the back of my mind, I always wondered if it was a sign…
Oh yes, a sign alright, WS. Morton was fragmented on the inside down to his core as his favorite emoji shows. Lol
Oh ok. I meant that I never seen the UMRN write “Will text later, Will call later, Will discuss, etc.” I have seen the other narcissists write like this (without the “I”). And I asked you about this before and you said that it was a lack of accountability thing to not add “I” before “will” or any other word.
So, my question now is does the UMRN write like this, too?
I see all the other narcissists write “Will text later, Will call later, etc.” but I never saw the UMRN narc write this way to me or to anybody. He is a teacher so i don’t know if that makes a difference but it is odd that he doesn’t write this way but the others are big with using “Will” at the beginning of the sentence.
Hi HG,
I think I had to rephrase my question. I’m sorry if it was confusing! Basically, does the UMRN also write “Will talk later, Will call later, etc.”?
HG
I can’t find they hoiover post so I’ll ask this here.
I had something very strange happen today. One of the narcs buddies friended me. I do know this person and we were all once in a fb group together. This person left the group cancelled his fb and started a new profile. Why ? I do not know. In any case his new profile has been up and running for at least 4 months but he never friended me nor I him. Today out of the blue I get the friend request. I check to see if any other from that group are his friends. Nope. I’m certain the Narc is but I can’t see because I’m blocked
Is this a coincidence? Or a Lieutenant sent to keep tabs on me?
Fascinating! Thank you.
HG Hope this finds you well.. You say that a MMRN is capable of having 2 IPSS’s. How many SIPSS’s may there be? What is the determining factor for being taken off the shelf? How long could a SIPSS be gone before it is noticed? Thanks for your time and counsel.
There can be many SIPPS.
Being taken off the shelf is being hoovered, therefore Hoover Trigger and Hoover Execution Criteria.
Varies – may not even be noticed.
Thank you. Is “inventory” taken occasionally to see who is still on the shelf and who has escapes?
No.
HG, you are saying it may not be noticed, which means until the narc decides to Hoover, correct? Also, is this accurate to say that if the last interaction with the narc was benign (the narc was friendly and polite and promised future contact) then in his mind things remain the same even if a long time has passed, i.e., the shelved appliance remains on the shelf ready for whenever the narc wanted to engage again? Thank you!
Correct.
Thanks so much for your quick response, HG!
You are most welcome IL.
What happens after the MMRN takes his revenge? How does he see his ex DSIPSS?
They will be painted black.
Spot on as always HG. The UMRN I know could very well be mistaken for a Greater (I know three, two GE’s and a GC) and I was wondering if maybe I had misdiagnosed him. In the end, I thought not as the fury is present every now and again but it’s swift to come and quick to go. The intelligence is not quite there either.
The only thing with this one is that I really cannot see sign of a IPPS. In fact, he has literally just invited me round to his where it would be very obvious if a woman had been present living there. The triangulations are continual though.
Thank you.
Initially, I wasn’t sure whether the narc I was involved with was a LGN or an UMRN. Then as I read HG’s blogs and thought about it, I realised that my former boss is a greater and the ex is an UMR. Whereas the G certainly has it in him to be very malicious and vidictive, the MR ex mostly solved his anger issues via silent treatment. The MR is smart and pretty good at manipulation, but he’s not what you’d call an achiever and half of what he does is instinctive.
So you don’t believe he is aware of his own nature then?
Sir, I have a question. Perhaps a dumb one, but I don’t get it. Why do you need fuel? I can be alone and speak to no one for days, I enjoy the silence. I don’t feel less of a person during or afterwards. I think I’ve missed something. Can’t narcissists generate any good feelings about themselves? I’ve known many and most did have good qualities, things they didn’t seem to give themselves credit for. Can’t narcissists see those things in themselves and use them as fuel? Thank you for what you do and opening yourself to be a source of invaluable information and understanding for us.
If you read the books Fuel and Fury, the answers lie in there.
IdaNoe
Empaths/apaths are self-fueling; narcissists are not. Fuel and Fury will explain it best, however, this article below gives a very brief explanation.
https://narcsite.com/2017/11/24/the-prime-aims-3/
It’s fascinating how accurate your description of my UMRN’s behavior is. Sometimes I think he has features of a lower level greater, too; I especially wonder how much he’s aware of what he does. I’d appreciate some posts on a situation of the overlap of midrangers and greaters.
Thank you.
My son-in-law showed me my adopted son’s FB page today. I don’t do FB, so I’d never seen it. It was massively depressing. Of course I know he’s a narc, but that doesn’t make it any easier to see his machinations. Everything in his post was so fake and sympathy seeking, and the people who had commented had bought right into it and were giving him fuel all based on lies.
This same son hit me up for a considerable loan a few weeks ago with a convoluted sob story based on a series of shady decisions and ridiculous spending in a futile attempt to try to hold onto his IPPS (who if not a narc herself is awfully close).
Given this article and everything I know about him, seems he’s a lower midranger. As a mother this is all very sad. He’s constantly sabotaging himself with his own bad judgement and nothing I can really do but watch. 😐
WS
From our perspective it is like watching a storm wreak havoc on the lives of everyone around them and eventually, if they aren’t careful, they sometimes self-destruct. I was able to creep on a somatic female’s FB and sure enough it was plastered with her pics and, as I scrolled through, I found one with the rictus grin…Bingo! She looked like a psycho. It was really weird.
All we can do is stand aside and watch.
“He relies extensively on the IPPS as other narcissists do, but his reliance is not as great as the other schools and divisions touch on.”
HG,
Would you be willing to share why this is true of the UMR?
Because he has a larger secondary source section in his fuel matrix. The primary source is always the largest provider of fuel in a narcissist’s fuel matrix (under normal conditions – i.e. if the IPPS on NIPPS has not escaped or there has been disengagement and no replacement) however, the extent of being the largest fuel provider varies through the schools because of the ability to command larger and more varied matrices. Thus, as a rough example, Lessers will rely on the primary source for 80-90% of their fuel, Mid-Range 60-80%, Greater 40-70%.
Very interesting HG, thank you for clarifying. I misunderstood. I read it as the UMRN relies less on the IPPS than ANY other N’s; hence my confusion.
Hg..the percentages have surprised me especially for the Greater. Though I see it makes logical sense due to the size potential of the fuel matrix. I still found 40%-70% quite low. It would also imply that disengagement of the IPPS could take place much sooner with this non-reliance, though I suppose it would depend a great deal on the residual benefits. I guess being able to travel from one to the other in an extensive matrix would imply longevity on the other hand.
It’s really interesting and quite complex.. and only the narcissist at the time knows of his own fuel Matrix.. another good example of how we can never win the day.
…we would literally be playing with the missing chess piece or suits in a deck, if using the analogy of games.
As you said before, the way to win is not to play (engage) in the first place.
Or at least to stop ‘once you know’.
Bear in mind however that the Greater, having significant more access to IPSSs could disengage from the IPPS and not replace that person. If that former IPPS provided 40% of fuel and say 20% came from IPSSs and 30% from NISS and 10% from tertiary, the Greater could increase the fuel provision from IPSS from 20 to 50% to more or less cover the loss of the primary source.
Yes. I see how the shift would unfold with a few IPSS’s. Not for my last ex but a previous one, this explains a switch in behaviour from overt preventative hoovers to blasé over confidence, devaluation and unrecognisable smirking.
All so very mathematical, clinical and logical.
The fuel matrix articles are quite literally the encyclopaedia of everything you would ever need to know about each cadre, and Fuel from different sources.
This series alongside the 5 facts articles have provided me every single answer to all of my questions about the narcissist cadres, and helped me to identify which cadre he is in and what that means. I think I was being “too nice” with the initial thoughts of him being a MMR, I think he is more of a LMR, and his mother is his ( non intimate) primary source, he has never left her home, and has long periods of time without a IPPS, just secondary sources that stick around.
The way the articles are broken down, and the amount of information provided, is so incredibly helpful. I have recommended them to quite a few people, due to this and they have also advised how eye opening they are.
Thank you, I am pleased you like them.