Why Won’t He Answer My Text Messages? Part Two

WHY WON´T HE ANSWER MY TEXT MESSAGES? PART 2

Having explained why the various schools of narcissist fails to respond to your text messages when you are the primary source, it also falls to be considered why this is done with three classes of secondary source namely The Intimate Partner Secondary Source, The Dirty Secret Intimate Partner Secondary Source and the Non-Intimate Partner Secondary Source.

The Intimate Partner Secondary Source (“IPSS”)

This person is either somebody who is being seduced by our kind for the purposes of being promoted to become the new primary source at the appropriate time or is someone who has not secured the promotion but is someone we regard as too valuable to discard. Accordingly, the IPSS might be someone who is “on the up” in terms of seduction as we look to ensure they will be a reliable and high-functioning primary source or it might be someone who did not make ‘the cut’ but since we have invested time and effort in them and their fuel (plus other benefits) they are still of use to us. So, what does it mean if we are not responding to your text messages when you are the IPSS?

During Initial Seduction

It is the IPSS who experiences the most intense of seductions. You will have begun as a tertiary source, a stranger who has been targeted for your potential. You are therefore very quickly promoted to a secondary source and since sex is such a weapon of mass seduction, you will have been further promoted to the position of IPSS. As we look to promote you to the primary source, you will experience the love-bombing and the manifestation of our infatuation through the near ceaseless text messaging.

When there is a hiatus in the text messaging this is not a devaluation but is rather done to test you to see how you respond. If you are relaxed about this change, for instance you have grown used to a text always at 8am and then we do not send one, but you do not respond to this failure in any way, we will be disappointed. If however you text us at 8-01 am asking us how we are (your attempt to find out why we have not texted without asking as such) then we will be pleased with your response and in such a circumstance likely to respond immediately again. Any kind of delay in responding or period of silence is done purely to test how quickly you will respond and what you will send in your response to us. This is not devaluation. The delay will only be for a short period of time, a few hours or so, as it is a test and we do not want to risk losing your interest. Accordingly, if you do not respond for a few hours (although this is highly unlikely) we will contact you (if it was a devaluation the silence would continue for far longer). Furthermore, when you do respond, we will reply to you after a handful of your messages in a short time period, again because we do not want to risk losing your interest and we are satisfied that you are responding in the way that we approve of.

During the Golden Period Seduction

If the targeting and the initial seduction proved successful then you will have been promoted from IPSS to primary source and therefore you ought to have regard to the circumstances of this article Why Won’t He Answer My Text Messages? – Part One

If however you have not been promoted to primary source but you have not been discarded, then we have opted to keep you connected to us as an IPSS. You will be aware that you have not been promoted because we will still see the wife or girlfriend (or if none was ever mentioned) you will not see us as often as you once did during the Initial Seduction. You may think that this is a devaluation. It is not. You are now in the Golden Period Seduction for an IPSS. This means we still regard you as ‘good’, we want your fuel, but unlike a IP Primary Source we will not avail ourselves of the fuel as often. This means that the fuel you provide as a IPSS does not go stale, but rather we intermittently return to you. We in effect keep you hanging on, future-faking as to what might happen but we have no intention of promoting you (just yet although circumstances may change further down the line) since we deemed you not to make the grade.

What will be happening now is that we will

a. Continue with the devaluation of the primary source;

b. Continue to engage with you as an IPSS; and

c. We will be engaging with another IPSS in the Initial Seduction Period

Accordingly, when your messages are not being returned in these circumstances again it is not because of a devaluation but it is because we have ‘put you back on the shelf’ and we are engaging with the primary source and/or new IPSS who we are looking to promote. You remain of use to us but this is an intermittent use.

Understand therefore that the silences (and they can be protracted) are not because we have turned against you, but because we are busy elsewhere. You may notice that you do receive some replies but they are short and perfunctory in nature

“Busy. Will call later.”

“Can’t talk. Meeting.”

“Busy but miss you.”

“Tied up but will message later.”

These crumbs of comfort are provided because we do not want to lose you, we enjoy the fuel that is received from you messaging us and because you remain in the Seduction Golden Period we have no need to devalue you, it just is not your turn to have time with us.

You can find yourself held in this position for a very long time. Not good enough to become the primary source but not bad enough to devalue and discard.

The Devaluation

The Devaluation of an IPSS is rare because we like to keep you around as a reliable and occasional fuel provider. We invested time in you and because you function whenever we turn to you (you are delighted to gain some time with us at last) your fuel always appears potent to us, thus we have no need to devalue.

Devaluation would only take place if you began to refuse to see us when we decided it was time to pay you a visit or you no longer provided us with fuel. Once this has happened we consider you to be a malfunctioning IPSS and we will devalue you. This means that we will ignore your text messages, you will not get crumbs of comfort and the period of ignoring you will be extensive until we do decide to respond. The response will be malign in nature. Thus if you are an IPSS you will know that:-

a. Extensive delays to reply to your repeated messages; and

b. When the response finally comes it is malign in nature

means that you are being devalued.

The Discard

In the rare event that you have been discarded as an IPSS then you are immediately painted black and it is as if you do not exist. We do not regard you as even worth bothering with for negative fuel (although of course we will still derive some from your messages but we will not prod you for more) and therefore if you do not get a reply to your text messages begging for a reply and an explanation, it is because we regard you as an irritation, beneath dealing with and in all likelihood you will end up blocked.

The Dirty Secret Intimate Partner Secondary Source (“DSIPSS”)

The DSIPSS is the person who is kept hidden away but is dipped into for excellent fuel with considerable regularity ( see more Dirty Little Secret )

The Initial Seduction Period

This will be intense in a similar way to that described above as concerning the IPSS. There is unlikely to be any delay in replying to text messages because there is no need to test you. Your role has been decided on as DSIPSS and you will never become the primary source. Your function is to be available at a set time or times each week for those secret trysts where the clandestine nature of the connection increases the potency of the fuel since you are likely to be The Other Woman. As we embed you (and do so quickly) into this role we will respond to your messages because we do not want to:-

a. Risk losing you; and

b. You trying to contact other people you may know mutually which then risks exposing our dirty secret

thus there will be no failure to reply.

The Seduction Golden Period

Just like the IPSS you are slotted into a longstanding golden period because you are used intermittently. Whilst kept secret, you will be seen more often than an IPSS who is in the Seduction Golden Period. That IPSS has failed to become the primary source but is kept and strung along for future use. You were never going to be the primary source and you are seen more often because the nature of your fuel is a two hour fuel injection before we disappear back to the primary source.

It is the nature of the DSIPSS that because they know of the primary source, they are less likely to badger us through messages. There will not be any intentional failure to respond to the messages of the DSIPSS and often the reply will explain why we cannot speak or message at length but the content of the message will be complimentary, encouraging and contain future faking, whilst slating the primary source,amounted to improved crumbs of comfort. Indeed there will often be an explanation given to explain when we are next available (the IPSS would not be afforded this)

“Can’t message for long, got to take the witch to her friends so will message you around 8pm, can’t wait to kiss you again.”

“Difficult to text, she is still here. Will message again as soon as I can. Really missing you and want to show you just how much asap.”

“Hi sex machine, stuck at present, will msg after 6pm xxxxxxxxxxx”

Thus if you find that your messages are always answered, your expectations managed and you know there is a primary source involved, you are a DSIPSS who is in the lengthy seduction golden period.

The Devaluation

It is very rare for a DSIPSS to be devalued because of their compliance, acceptance of their role and the delicious turbo boost of fuel which they provide every so often. We do not become bored of the DSIPSS’ fuel and devaluation would only take place if the DSIPSS eventually decides that he or she wants more or tires of their role, in effect working out that they are just a dirty little secret. If there are demands for more time, threats to expose the arrangement or the fuel is diminished then we may apply some more sugar to calm the situation, but if this is unlikely to work then we will turn to threats and devaluation. We will then cut the DSIPSS adrift and make them persona non grata. We will not respond to any of the messages for a long time and once we do the response will be savage, malign and threatening in order to ensure that the DSIPSS stays silent.

The Discard

Just like the IPSS, the discard is rare, but if it does happen, your messages will be ignored because not only are you painted black by us, we wish you would just disappear because as a DSIPSS you have the potential to cause us problems. By not answering we are denying your existence. We are unlikely to block you because we want to keep an eye on what you are doing in case it proves necessary to dole out a malign follow-up hoover in order to keep you in line, but we will monitor your texts but not reply. We are no longer as interested in your fuel, but it is rather the reaction of wishing you would just go away and let us get on with our machinations in peace.

The Non-Intimate Secondary Source (“NISS”)

This will include inner and outer circle friends along with colleagues.

The Initial Seduction

This happens quickly as it does not take too much effort to bind this person to us as friend or colleague as a NISS and the reality is that there is unlikely to ever be an occasion, or indeed time for a failure to respond to the text messages occurring.

The Seduction Golden Period

As explained elsewhere, the NISS enjoys a near permanent golden period because their fuel is only relied on intermittently and thus remains potent. The NISS is also often very loyal and receives bribing benefits from our kind, so the seduction golden period will continue for a long time.

If there is a failure to reply to text messages it is because we are busy about something else. The NISS whilst important to us, is expendable and therefore the messages of a NISS will not be treated with priority. The fuel obtained whilst good, is not the highest and generally, in tandem with our concept of superiority and control, consider that the NISS once bound is not going to become disloyal because we have been slow to respond to text messages. We take the view that they will conclude we are just busy and they will patiently wait for a reply. We have no need to rush and no need to devalue them during this stage. Accordingly, if you are a NISS and your messages are not being responded to, it is because we are busy doing something else and you are not a priority.

The Devaluation

The devaluation of a NISS is very rare, but if it does happen then the failure to respond will be elongated in time, with many messages piling up unanswered before we eventually respond with a scathing put down. There will be no words of comfort, no excuses offered but an unpleasant reply designed to draw fuel from you.

The Discard

The discard of a NISS is also rare but if it does happen, it is as if you are struck from the record, made persona non grata and in all likelihood you will be blocked. We freeze you out and no doubt have already replaced you with someone else. Your messages seeking explanations and reconciliation will be unheeded and indeed in many instances not even yet, such is your inferior status to us.

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40 Comments

  1. Regarding the IPSS’s- after they’re devalued and discarded, should one ever expect the narc to come hoovering again?
    I’m pretty certain I was an IPSS. After stumbling upon this site and becoming more aware of what I was dealing with, I stopped reacting the same to his lies and gaslighting. I guess I was devalued and discarded, he deleted me off snapchat, except he never blocked me and I don’t think he ever blocked my number either. Over the last year we’ve been in contact once because one night I drunkenly added him on Snapchat. Seeing his name light up on my phone after so long gave my body this sudden, intense, electrifying high, like I was on a rollercoaster about to go down a steep slope.. like I was about to get a good dose of a drug I’d been feigning for. Ah, fml,
    He started trying to mess with my head again so I deleted him.. again. This was months ago. So I guess I’m just wondering if he’s ever gonna try to come hoovering again since I was discarded..
    I wish I could say I wasn’t still susceptible to his hoovers, but I am.

    Best regards to you HG!

  2. What would an ex GF who was contacted intermittently over many years behind the spouses back be ? A DLS kept from the spouse , or a IPSS ?

    When contact occurs there is lots of future faking and, smearing of the IPPS.
    There is no physical contact with the ex. All through email, and phone, even though they live near one another.
    at the same time, the Narc is devaluing The spouse at home with silent treatments, rages, and malice.

    You say the DLS is never elevated to IPPS , if that is true, why does the Narc treat his spouse in such a despicable manner while communicating with the ex GF ?

    1. If an ex girlfriend, Former IPPS.

      For the purposes of control, receipt of fuel, contrast through triangulation.

      1. Thank you, HG.
        For clarity, control of who , the devalued spouse??
        Does a former IPPS ever get reinstated as a new IPPS ?
        Sorry, I don’t understand what “ contrast through triangulation “ means ?
        Thank you again for replying. Your insight is superior to anything I have seen on the internet.

        1. 1. Yes.
          2. Yes, but it I not guaranteed.
          3. One is painted white, thus the other is painted black, this creates the contrast between the IPPS and the IPSS. There are three people in the triangle, the narcissist (at the apex) and the IPPS (who may know about the IPSS and is thus triangulated with the IPSS) and the IPSS (who may know about the IPPS and is thus triangulated with the IPPS). Triangulation may work both ways or just one way and can alternate.

  3. “If you are relaxed about this change, for instance you have grown used to a text always at 8am and then we do not send one, but you do not respond to this failure in any way, we will be disappointed.” LOL. Good. Hope he was disappointed.

  4. I am DSIPSS and I feel like I’m in devaluation, but I guess I might just be on a shelf. How would I know the difference? If I stop messaging he always comes back around, but not with any intention to see me. Is it possible he was never interested in the actual sex; he just wanted to test of he could get that control over me and once he got it, on the shelf I went?

    1. Hello BL, I recommend you organise a consultation so I can gather the relevant facts from you and then help you accurately.

      1. Already did (BryceLynn!) What I really need to do is not care what I am or was to him and just move on. I’m getting there, albeit slowly, thanks to you.

      1. Ok. But during the on/off periods (which tbh was for about a year and a half…and you suspect someone else has also ‘been on the scene’…what does that make you then? Shelved? DLS? Thanks for your reply.

        1. YBOMNF, you have been shelved during the “on/off periods” unless you can’t get in touch with the N. In that case, you’ve been disengaged from.

        2. Also adding that all secondary appliances whether NISS, IPSS, or DLS are shelf appliances. They are picked up and put down at the will of the narcissist. There are numerous articles regarding this subject but I am total trash at finding them. Hopefully, somebody can direct you to some relevant articles.

        3. Also, does it matter how one`s man thinks of one, even secretly? If I am not mistaken, I remember HG Tudor saying to a reader that another reason that a source is labeled a Dirty Little Secret, is because the Narcississt himself thinks of her, in his mind as……………..wait for it………. a Dirty Little Secret: Ta Da! He thinks of her that way in his fuel matrix, in his mind, whether or not she or anyone else thinks of her that way. The Narcississts decides that she is a DLS, whether or not she even knows that is her position in the fuel matrix. For example, a source may complain to HG that she feels like she is his DLS in life, when, rather, he has designated her in his mind and matrix as an Intimate Partner Secondary Source/IPSS, and not a DLS. The Narcississt decides their place in the fuel matrix, and no one else, even if their place may happen to look differently at times, than what it is actually, either to them or to others. Therefore when in doubt, it is best to have HG analyze the situation by looking at the particulars. Many have come on here thinking they were this and that and the other, and then they found out differently. Both men and women have been mistaken about their place in a Narcissist`s fuel matrix: I have witnessed this many times on here. HG clarifies their fuel matrix position so that they can strategize and plan more accurately and successfully. I pat myself on the back, if I am right about all this. And, I do think I am right.

  5. HG. As the N interprets the FR to still be there when the DLS escaped is it true that the “ golden period” is also sill active in his world? He just thinks the DLS us “taking a break”?

  6. Big difference in IPSS and DLS. This alone could determine the difference if you’re on the fence about your position. The IPSS get no explanations and minimal crumbs. Sounds like the DLS is kept more “in the loop”.

  7. It is my first time to read the article. I had my another aha moment. Now i know what was the real basis for devaluation. I was IPSS.

    Thank you HG.

          1. What’s the point of that type of passive hoover? (the liking posts on social media). What does the narc get out of it? Thought Fuel that they’re causing confusion to the other person?

          2. 1. Thought Fuel.
            2. The attempt to assert control by provoking a response from the recipient.

  8. HG, you say here that while the devaluation and the discard/disengagement of the IPSS and DLSIPSS is “rare but does happen”, the reason for such devaluation is “diminishing of the fuel / no longer providing the fuel” – what does it mean exactly?

    1. You stop providing fuel or you are not providing enough fuel and/or not providing it frequently enough.

      1. HG, thank you for that explanation, now I know why I am always being devualed, i wound him because I ignore him like I am.doung right now so thanks again

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