Amber Heard : Ignited Fury – Fires Her PR Team

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  1. Wendy says:

    Asp Emp, thank you!

    I respect and love all of your comments and I feel a part of a very special group of people who have found HG and his work.

    How many places can we go to discuss this and what we have been thru where people truly understand it? Not many if any others than here.

    I’m grateful and love learning from everyone here. even if I don’t agree with some opinions. That’s ok! We are all individuals with our own thoughts and experiences to bring to the table. Love this blog!

    Hugs to you! 🤗

    1. Asp Emp says:

      Wendy, OMG, I am so sorry, I have just seen this comment. Ah, bless you and thank you for sharing that 🙂 And for the hug 🙂 I could not have worded it better than you have here, about this blog and the availability to use this space 🙂

      1. Wendy says:

        Asp Emp no worries. I miss some comments on here sometimes too. Thanks for saying that and you’re welcome for the hug! 😊

        I am ready for the long holiday weekend! This Johnny case has got me all stressed out! I was pulling my hair out in anticipation over HG’s great analysis of him and now with the closing arguments starting tomorrow I’m gonna be back on the edge of my seat!

        I’m gonna get some good ‘me time’ in this weekend and pour me a mega pint of Prosecco!! 😂🥂

        Still team Johnny!!

        1. Asp Emp says:

          Wendy, thank you 🙂 Enjoy the rest 🙂 I am still Team Johnny too 🙂

        2. Viol. says:

          I’m way behind on the videos, but if there isn’t visual analysis, I can do some packing while I listen. The looks on Amber’s face are simply too priceless for me to risk missing one while I’m taping a box shut!

          Meanwhile, I’m waiting for HG to have the time to turn his attention back to Harry’s Wife. She’s progressed from exploiting her own mysterious children to exploiting children in Harlem, then children at polo matches (there are pics of her grinning manically at a player’s unimpressed child. Given her huge black hat and the fact that the kid is named Dorothy, there really ought to be ruby slippers in the scene).

          And now she’s exploiting dead children. When they had footage on the news, I had an out-loud “WTF?” moment.

    2. WhoCares says:

      Great comment, Wendy.

      1. Wendy says:

        Lol, thanks WhoCares. Happy Memorial Day weekend! 😊

  2. Sweetest Perfection says:

    I couldn’t open it, Violetta!!! Who plays it so that I may find it by the name of the band?

    1. Viol. says:

      Gloria Jones, in 1964.
      Like everyone else, I first heard the Soft Cell version.

  3. Sweetest Perfection says:

    *Evan Rachel Wood, autocorrect changed the name. One last thing: I despise people that talk shit about the blog but continue to come back.

  4. wensical says:

    Viol, great point! Agree 💯

  5. Duchessbea says:

    Pinpointing what Johnny actually is, I’m looking forward to HG’s analysis on this. In my own opinion, I see Johnny Depp to be an Empath albeit one who has closed off emotionally and has been very much hurt in the past and has not processed or dealt with the pain of being hurt in the past. I think Johnny very much genuinely fell in love with, and truly loved Amber Heard. He has not properly dealt with the break up from her and he is still bitter. I think at the end of this case it will be a time for closure for Johnny. Johnny is a very kind hearted, empathetic man whose good nature has been used against him in the past. If anyone could do with a few consultations with HG, to understand what it was they were ensnared with, it’s Johnny.
    Best,
    DB

  6. Viol. says:

    Ally Fog brought up the issue of female abusers in her 2016 article, “Hillary Clinton presidency bid: We need to talk about Hillary and domestic violence claims.” She didn’t spark the conversation she had hoped, but it looks like we’re having it now. It’s been known for years, but what well-known guy was willing to be called a liar or a wimp by putting his face to it?

    As Wendy and others have pointed out, Johnny’s already lost so much, that it gave him a certain amount of freedom. Drugs, drink, and his ex almost killed him, but he knows from harsh experience that disapproval will not.

  7. WiserNow says:

    Poor old Johnny Depp…

    His wife poops on his side of the bed and he can’t spend time in that particular exclusive, luxury apartment. He needs to consult his minders about which other exclusive, luxury apartment he should stay in.

    Meanwhile, he is making an X-rated video with his good pal, Marilyn Manson (Brian Warner) for a song called ‘Kill4Me’. The video is soft-porn, with Depp, Manson, and two girls who look like skinny teenagers all having sex together. In one shot, Depp is rolling around with the girls and he’s half naked. On his chest, there is a tattoo that says, ‘Lily-Rose’ – the name of his daughter, who is around the same age as the girls in the video. Also, Lily-Rose is one of Depp’s two children who he left, along with his long-term partner, to marry Amber Heard, who was half his age at the time.

    What a role model Depp is for his daughter. As long as the money and dope keeps rolling in, I guess…

    Some of the lyrics of the song ‘Kill4Me’ are:

    Bloody noses are just like roses
    But what happens when we are betrayed?
    Won’t you drag him to the shed
    And unload six rounds in their fucking face?
    This is a sacrifice

    Your hotel hall won’t be so vacant
    And I can tell that you ain’t faking
    Because I take death threats
    Like the best of them

    Would you kill, kill, kill for me?
    I love you enough to ask you again
    Would you kill, kill, kill for me?
    You won’t be kissing me unless you kill for me

    Sideways for attention, longways for results
    Who are you going to cross?

    …how charming.

    Manson (what a freak!) is accused by former partner Evan Rachel Wood of grooming her when she was 18 and he was 37. She says he would physically and sexually torture her and he would say that if she loved him enough, she would endure the punishments. His lyrics and videos clearly show he is a sadist and misogynist and treats women like appliances.

    Depp and Heard’s trial is uncovering some pretty sordid details and Depp’s association with Manson and some of the similarities in Depp’s and Manson’s behaviours are questionable.

    I think finding a turd on the bed is innocuous compared to being groomed and tortured as a teenage appliance, however, the Heard turd is getting much more publicity and ridicule.

    1. Wendy says:

      Wiser now, with all due respect to your comment, I have to say that I don’t think anyone believes Depp is an angel or a saint. That is clear.

      BUT, his character as a partying, eccentric, substance abuser isn’t what is on trial. What is on trial is Heard’s defamation of him being a pretty gruesome domestic abuser. In which she goes on and on about in court as well as publicly for several years now for her own-selfish reasons and to elevate herself and her career!! If Johnny was on trial for being a drug/substance abuser and a hot head by means of slamming and kicking cabinets, and his filthy mouth, then he would most def be found guilty. But he is not on trial for this.

      Watching today’s cross examination of Amber by Johnny’s awesome attorney, Amber was on full narc display!! Omg, everything that I have learned from my experience with my ex narc and KTN about narcissism came out into full global view from her. The projecting, lying, the disregard for the rules, the playing the victim and many more things she displayed. The indignant mannerisms she displayed and outright lying in front of everyone! Playing word games with the attorney. Circular communication. Omg! If that is not a narcissist in full blown narc mode then I have learned nothing!

      Johnny Depp may be many things but that in no way makes him a domestic abuser of women or anyone! She’s is a horrific liar and should be so ashamed for completely making a mockery of real domestic violence victims that are suffering and have suffered this horrible abuse. I am completely disgusted by her! 😡

      At this point, I don’t even care if HG says Johnny is a narcissist because I am still team Johnny! Amber Heard deserves every ounce of public scrutiny and dislike that she is getting right now.

      1. WhoCares says:

        “She’s is a horrific liar and should be so ashamed for completely making a mockery of real domestic violence victims that are suffering and have suffered this horrible abuse.”

        This.

        1. Sweetest Perfection says:

          Has anyone really watched the video of “Kill4m3” that everybody is taking as evidence that Depp was involved in an orgy that included Manson? Because I have. Nothing really scandalous. The ladies are models, they are not underage, and apart from a little butt chick you can’t see much more unlike many other videoclips that do not belong to this music genre. In my opinion, rock’n’roll has a bad rep. Anyway, the song is not to kill for (so no, I wouldn’t kill for it, Brian) but the guitar chords are excellent. Apart from analyzing the aesthetic quality of the clip and the song, you can’t use this as evidence of anything. I agree Brian Warner-Manson is a bad influence. I believe he is a psychopath and a narcissist. And I agree he abused all those women that accused him. But this is not about Brian Warner.

          I agree Depp is older than Heard but she was 23, not underage. Age gap is not an evidence of any crime if both partners are adults. And using substances is not my idea of a social role model either, but that still doesn’t constitute any evidence of Intimate Partner Violence, in fact, the only “evidence” Heard has shown so far only demonstrates that Depp is a “Sleepy Holo.” I am not sorry for AH. She is lying and causing the revolution of so many abused women to be taken as a joke now. The only real evidence so far of physical abuse in that trial has been the recoding of she hitting Depp and mocking him.
          FYI, Depp never abandoned his children. His daughter has spoken multiple times in favor of her dad, defending him as a loving father who always cared for them and for everyone around him. He has a tattoo with her name because she was really sick and almost died when she was little, and, as a show of gratitude for the care she received at the hospital where she was admitted, Depp visited the kids in the hospital many times dressed as Jack Sparrow. Also, whether we like it or not, Brian Warner is Lily-Rose’s godfather. Shock!

          1. Sweetest Perfection says:

            *Butt cheek ☺️ Btw, what happened to my avatar?

          2. Viol. says:

            I might watch it. I’m not a fan of Manson’s music or character, but he did a cover of “Personal Jesus” that, to my amazement, didn’t suck. I’m not even close to the DM fan that HG is, but I’ve always liked that song, and Manson’s cover showed he actually understood it.

          3. Sweetest Perfection says:

            Violetta, I must say what I like best by MM is their covers. The cover of Personal Jesus was quite decent, taking into consideration that we are talking about a big world hit included in my favorite DM album. I also prefer their cover of Sweet Dreams to the original version by Eurythmics. I like a few original tracks by the band, like Beautiful People, Be Obscene, This is the New Shit, and probably my favorite one, which is the opening theme in The Matrix and sets the whole pathos of the movie is Rock Is Dead. Wait, I adoooore Rock Is Dead! Gonna listen to it again… thanks for reminding me!

          4. Sweetest Perfection says:

            Oh, Violetta, I know this is gonna be an unpopular opinion but I’ll be risqué: I prefer MM’s version of Tainted Love to the original by Soft Cell.

          5. Sweetest Perfection says:

            Annnnd, I just remember that version of Tainted Love was the opening theme of the very forgettable (and forgotten until now) Not Another Teenage Movie, a film I never watched though whose soundtrack, for some strange reason, some friends gave me as a birthday gift. Some covers are good like this one; others are decent, like the one of DM’s But Not Tonight. But HG, please, do NOT listen to the cover of Never Let Me Down Again by Smashing Pumpkins. Or, you can, and start hating Billy Corgan more than you hate everyone else…

          6. WiserNow says:

            SP,
            Brian Warner has evaded prison to date for grooming and torturing his ‘girlfriends’.

            If he does get convicted for rape, sexual assault, physical assault, coercive control and/or domestic violence, he might be able to practice his guitar chords in a jail cell if he behaves.

            Then Johnny could visit him in prison, perhaps with a batch of special brownies they can share. Maybe Lily-Rose could visit her godfather too. They could bond together and have a laugh over stories about Brian’s old rock’n’roll shenanigans.

            Like the time when Brian couldn’t finish torturing an 18-year-old because his arthritis was playing up. Hilarious!

            Or the time when Brian was in mid-session with another ex and called Johnny to see if he could borrow Johnny’s Viagra. The years of abusing drugs and alcohol must be wreaking havoc on little Johnny. I wonder how many times the drugs and alcohol have made him shit the bed too. Shit happens. Nothing wrong with that if you can get the hired help to sign NDAs though.

            Perhaps Lily-Rose could give Brian some pointers about how to apply his lip-liner and lipstick properly. His make-up skills are atrocious.

            It’s all good family fun they could enjoy together.

          7. Sweetest Perfection says:

            Like I said, this is not about him. Like I also said, I believe he’s a psychopath and a narcissist. Many of us here have been hanging out with psychopaths and narcissists and have our empathy eroded by them; this doesn’t make us similar to them. I also prefer direct humor to passive aggressive sarcasm.

          8. WiserNow says:

            SP,
            For someone who is deeply involved in the area of violence against women and who advocates for female empowerment, you seem protective of 53-year-old Brian Warner’s civil rights, despite numerous ex-partners of his providing credible evidence of their experiences of intimate partner violence – rape, sexual and physical assault, emotional blackmail and psychological abuse.

            Are you suggesting that it’s okay to laugh and joke and snigger at Amber shitting in a bed and being a bad actress, but let’s not get all passive-aggressive about Johnny being a rock’n’roll druggie friend of a serial abuser?

            It sounds like you’re okay with Amber being publicly flogged, drawn, quartered and hung, but we need to protect Johnny’s civil right to have a laugh with his pals and call his wife a “c**t” who he would like to kill and then “f**k her burnt corpse”. That doesn’t mean anything though because it’s highly likely that Johnny’s empathy was eroded.

            We musn’t say mean things about Johnny because he is a man and a successful actor and he was having a joke between ‘friends’.

            What makes it okay for Amber to be publicly shamed and ridiculed worldwide while the middle-aged, drug addicted Johnny and his pals need to have their civil rights protected and their personality disorders understood and acknowledged.

            Does it depend on whether or not a human being has a dick? Or is it who has more money? Or is it who is older? Or is it because you like their films or music covers?

            On the subject of humour, I like all kinds. I thought the floor was open here. I can see plenty of sarcasm daily, from HG and everyone else. Why would you respond differently to mine? It was direct and I said it openly.

            One of the great things about learning from HG is that I don’t feel guilty about what people think about my humour if they don’t feel guilty about theirs. Shock!

            And by the way, please feel free to step down from your high horse at any time.

          9. Sweetest Perfection says:

            WN, you lack reading skills. I don’t know how many times I have to repeat that I believe Brian W is a psychopath and a narcissist. This is the third time. I explicitly stated I believe he did abuse those women. If you can’t efficiently analyze a paragraph there’s nothing I can do. You are making all of this up.
            Also once again, because you need repetition to digest the information, this is not about him. This does not mean I protect him or defend him. It is simply what it says: it is not about him. When HG decides to analyze Brian W., which I asked him a year or so ago when the case of Ellen Rachel Wood came out, then we can focus on him.
            Right now, until HG reveals what JD is, we are all trying to pay attention to factual evidence. Yours are not pieces of evidences but moralistic, judgemental opinions about JD’s addictions, about his age gap with Amber Heard, and about his negative companies. Other than that, you have provided nothing. Those are not proofs of being a narcissist. And they really do not constitute any base for an accusation of Intimate Partner Violence.
            I like sarcasm but I don’t like passive aggressive behavior, which you use profusely. I also believe you like to engage in fights with people when they try to let you see that you are wrong, and that makes me extremely uncomfortable. I tried to support you when you said people didn’t welcome you in the blog, because I don’t believe that is true, but it is true though that you seem to be always defensive and mean and for that reason many people may avoid interacting with you. Like I am from now on.

          10. WhoCares says:

            Aw… Sweetest Perfection, love the new avatar!

          11. Sweetest Perfection says:

            Thank you, WhoCares. My dog was stung by a bee 🤭

          12. Viol. says:

            Sweet-P:

            My favorite version of “Tainted Love”–which also influenced the Fine Young Cannibals’ “Good Thing”:

            https://youtu.be/OJKe2j9Wjh4

            Ful disclosure: I didn’t know about this version until.fairly recently.

          13. Sweetest Perfection says:

            I could see it now! Gloria Jones. It is very good, Violetta, but too upbeat for the content of the song. I need darkness, I need lugubrious melancholia… tainted heartache …

          14. Viol. says:

            Sweet-P:

            Then it makes sense you’d prefer Manson’s cover. A friend liked Manson’s version of “Sweet Dreams” for the same reasons: ​darkness and lugubrious melancholia. Soft Cell is ’80s synth; Jones is ’60s R&B. No dirging.

            What do you think of Naked Eyes’ “Always Something There to Remind Me” vs Dionne Warwick’s? Again, it’s ’80s synth vs. ’60s soul. No one’s done a dirge version, so far.

            And then there’s Linda Ronstadt’s 70s “You’re No Good,” which has the best guitars of any version, but Dee Dee Warwick’s has the most pissed-off vocals.

            Oddly, I don’t have a winner for Soft Cell’s “Where Did Our Love Go?” vs the Supremes. I don’t like either one. Neither the lyrics nor the chords go anywhere.

          15. Viol. says:

            WiserNow:

            The issues are a) whether any laws have been broken; and b) the difference between a criminal case and a civil suit.

            Warner’s behavior is undoubtedly vile, but unless there’s evidence he pulled this on someone underage, not young but legal, there’s no law against it, as the law is presently written. If the law is changed, it can’t be grandfathered to apply to cases before it was changed. Historic sex abuse cases involve laws that were already on the books, just not enforced.

            Amber’s physically assaulting Depp during an argument could be considered a crime, unless she can prove self-defense, but this is still a civil case.

            Otoh, Warner can use the excuse, “We were into rough sex.” It might be a specious excuse–there are court cases of people agreeing to an S&M relationship, and the sadist goes too far–but it’s going to be treated differently from assault during an argument.

            People who are into the B&D scene told me the 50 Shadesseries was bullshit, not least because safe words were ignored and the contract was nothing like how it’s actually done. It sounds like Warner did take advantage of Wood’s naivete: there was no contract to show that she agreed to BDSM, which might have protected him from a partner’s buyer’s remorse, nor to demonstrate that she agreed to this act but not to that one, which might have protected her from his exceeding their agreement without repercussion. An experienced BDSM participant would have insisted on one, which is why Warner didn’t go for experienced participants. However, the law doesn’t place as much value on BDSM contracts as the kink community does.

            TL:DR: Warner’s case will be treated differently because he has claimed it was a consensual BDSM relationship, not because he’s male.

          16. WiserNow says:

            Violetta,
            In some ways, you have just proved my point.

            For example, an 18-year-old is ‘legal’ according to the law. Firstly, calling a teenager ‘legal’ simply because the person has had their 18th birthday doesn’t mean they are capable or knowledgeable regarding full and valid consent. The 18-year-old may be love-bombed; or under pressure; or mentally challenged; or simply inexperienced.

            Why do you think Brian Warner specifically chose to groom Evan Rachel Wood? She was 17 when they met.

            Framing sexual and physical violence as BDSM under the law is disingenuous.

            If you’d like to read a story of a cult that was a sex slave ring where young vulnerable women were coerced and isolated, look up James Davis – an Australian man charged with slavery and servitude offences. Before his arrest, Davis described his living arrangements as a “BDSM alternative lifestyle”.

            In fact, it was a ring where he targeted teenagers and young women who were mentally ill or vulnerable in other ways, groomed them, isolated them, threatened them, and the girls were subjected to horrific violent and degrading acts. Davis also organised drug and sex parties where he charged other men to attend and the girls were abused by these other men as well.

            To frame intimate partner violence under the heading of ‘BDSM’ under the law is again reinforcing my earlier points that when a man is the abuser, the man is not subjected to a full-scale public hatred the way a woman is.

            The targeting, grooming and violence perpetrated on young inexperienced women in particular is disgusting to me. Young empathic women are vulnerable specifically because their biological wiring has evolved to bond with a baby and children. The care and attachment inherent in a young empathic woman is an evolutionary physiological trait that enables the nurture of children. Manipulators and abusers use it as a means to groom, manipulate and exploit.

            The law is really letting women down in many ways.

        2. wensical says:

          😊

      2. WiserNow says:

        Hi Wendy,
        To be clear, I think they are both vile. I’m not on Team Amber or Team Johnny. Like you, I can also see that Amber is lying and exaggerating and that she is a narcissist.

        In my comment, I did not defend Amber or say she’s not a narcissist. Her actions are despicable and I can see that her initial claims in a newspaper calling Johnny a domestic abuser were exaggerated and were damaging.

        The aspect of this trial that bothers me is that Johnny Depp is now doing to Amber Heard exactly what she tried to do to him – that is, smear and vilify her, while at the same time, he and his legal team (and carefully selected witnesses) are very publicly and strategically painting a picture of him as a caring, generous and ‘abused’ spouse.

        Johnny was 46 when he married Amber who was 23. At that time, he had already had numerous relationships, been married for a substantial time, was the father of grown children, and he had a successful career over many years. He was very wealthy and had a wide network of powerful connections in his industry.

        In contrast, Amber was a much younger, not very well educated, relatively unknown actress who auditioned for a part in a movie.

        Who had the greater overall power in their dynamic?

        Now, Amber’s reputation, career and credibility is globally shot to pieces and she is a laughing stock because of all the gory details publicly exposed in this ‘trial’. Johnny, the caring, ‘abused’ spouse, is sitting back and laughing as it’s happening.

        In my comment, I did not condone anything Amber has done. I find her vile and disgusting.

        At the same time though, Johnny is a middle-aged man, addicted to drugs, who left his family to be with and marry a woman who was half his age – not much older than his own daughter.

        Johnny – a man in his 50s – doesn’t see anything wrong with having group sex with much younger women in a video with Brian Warner (the abusive freak Marilyn Manson) for a song called ‘Kill 4 Me’. Warner is accused of being an abusive man by numerous people. As his good friend, Johnny would be very aware of this.

        In the fallout of this ‘trial’ (I use the word loosely), Amber is now publicly crucified for a turd in a bed and for being a liar. Meanwhile, Johnny is painted as a maligned, abused spouse whose career was damaged because he missed out on a couple of roles.

        Personally, I can see a lot more very serious, traumatic, mentally and physically life-long damage being done to the young women who men like Johnny Depp and Brian Warner groom and abuse, treating them like sex objects.

        I think that in the society we live in, the general public believe that a young woman being used and abused as a sex object is far easier to overlook and treat as ‘normal’. If the same young woman shits in a bed and lies in public, she is treated like the scum of the earth.

        Why do people expect a female sex object to be a morally spotless, virginally pristine, truth-telling model citizen?

        I think you are correct, Johnny Depp is not a saint at all. He is lucky. He has the wealth, connections and power to not only overcome the defamation trial but to also strategically and very publicly destroy the reputation of the person who ‘defamed’ him.
        And the public will cheer him on as he does it.

        1. WiserNow says:

          *Correction: Johnny wasn’t married when he left his long-term partner to be with Amber.

        2. WhoCares says:

          Wow, WiserNow – if you’ve never watched a damaged empath go through court to fight for the truth of what occured to them (and sometimes to their children as well), you will never grasp the learning opportunity afforded in the Amber Heard/Johnny Depp situation.

          Thank god for your work, HG.

          1. Sweetest Perfection says:

            Or a video by J Balvin…

          2. WiserNow says:

            Thanks WhoCares, but I don’t think I need you to tell me what I will or won’t *ever* grasp.

            I have actually watched a damaged empath go through court to fight for the truth of what occurred to them.

            Just one example…
            In a recent comment, I mentioned a legal trial where Cardinal George Pell was convicted of child sex abuse. After an appeal the conviction was overturned. The details of the case were made as public as possible in the circumstances. There was a public outcry that the justice system had failed miserably.

            This legal case coincided with a national inquiry into historical child sex abuse in religious and state institutions. There were literally hundreds of people who very publicly gave their testimonies of abuse at the hands of George Pell and others. George Pell himself stated his opinions of why he didn’t make changes after knowing that other clergy had abused children.

            After all that evidence, the court found that George Pell was not guilty.

            I don’t believe the law is there to stand for real ‘justice’. However, I don’t think public opinion is a reliable arbiter of ‘justice’ either.

            My comment above was about the power imbalance in the Depp and Heard case and the biases in public opinion.

            For the tenth time, I agree that Heard is a narcissist and that she lied about Depp. I acknowledge that.

            My point is that the public stoning she is getting is out of proportion to the ‘crime’.

            There are far worse ‘crimes’ that are covered up and excused because of the machinations and enabling that happens among those in power or who have the means to pay.

            Also, my comments have nothing to do with HG’s work.

            Although, having said that, if I believed in God which I don’t, if HG did a 95-part series on Prince Andrew or Prince Philip or Jimmy Savile, or Brian Warner, complete with the analysis of their micro-expressions, body language, family and sibling analysis, and humorous videos about PR press about them – I think I would start to believe in God.

        3. WhoCares says:

          “He has the wealth, connections and power to not only overcome the defamation trial but to also strategically and very publicly destroy the reputation of the person who ‘defamed’ him.”

          She’s destroying herself…really doesn’t need his assistance in this.

          1. WiserNow says:

            WhoCares,

            “She’s destroying herself… really doesn’t need his assistance in this.”

            Sounds similar to:
            – “Why doesn’t she leave? Can’t she see her partner is abusive?”
            – “It’s his own fault. He is pussy-whipped. Ginger bollocks isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed.”
            – “If anyone ever hit/punched/slapped me, I’d be out of there. They wouldn’t do it twice.”
            – “But how couldn’t you see what was happening after so many years?”

            … yes, the court of public opinion is so reliable and effective.

          2. Sweetest Perfection says:

            She is destroying herself and on her way there she could have destroyed the lives of others as well. The highest percentage of gender violence globally is perpetrated by men against women. But it also occurs in reverse, between same-sex partners, and by men against members of the LGBTQ in general, especially transgender individuals. I educate about this and it repulses me that a woman who has evidently hit her husband, manipulated him and laughed at him, smeared him publicly and made him look like a monster, degrades and taints the important revolution of women against these acts. She is a liar who doesn’t care if many other women after her are never gonna be believed because she lied. I don’t defend Johnny Depp. I do accuse her of what has been proven so far as evidence that she was the only one physically abusive in this story. When I laugh and mock her I am not mocking her gender, which is my own; I’m mocking her disgusting personality disorder, her pathetic bad acting, and her lies.

          3. WhoCares says:

            Sweetest Perfection – cracking up at your latest avatar!

          4. Sweetest Perfection says:

            I had to change it, WC. Extremely important matter.

          5. WhoCares says:

            Haha! Sweetest Perfection, I do understand!

        4. wensical says:

          Hi WiserNow, I want you to know my saltiness in my response to your comment was in no way directed to you! Thank you for your comments and thoughts and I agree with you on some things. Especially the Manson connection! Not a fan of him but I really don’t think the video proves anything derogatory about Johnny. Maybe distasteful but still not proof of anything.

          I have to disagree with you about Johnny targeting and seducing younger women because if you look at his timeline of relationships we don’t see that. Most of them excluding Amber were his age and successful in their own right. So, Amber was the only younger woman he became involved with.

          She doesn’t strike me as naive and someone that is easily taken advantage of. There are many young women out there who are willing to get with a rich older man for the money and power. And vice versa. Many young men get with rich older women for the same reason.

          I think Amber even at 24 years old knew exactly what she was doing and she was not an innocent target for Johnny. I think she actually targeted Johnny.

          Just my thoughts but I respect your opinions and comments. I guess we will see what happens. There are several witnesses for Amber yet to testify and who knows what this will reveal!

          Still team Johnny! 😊

        5. Contagious says:

          With all due respect and I mean that… how many young adult female narcs have taken older men to the cleaners? It’s a cliche midlife crisis tale. I don’t see there age as an indicator of power in a narc situation if only one. HG says she is a narc. Not a child either. What’s Johnny? I personally see him as a substance abuser and I wonder if normals and Empaths can lose empathy under substances. I think yes. Also that the IPPS can be booze etc… he left her on the shelf for his greatest love at the moment. How many people have loved a substance abuser and said “ if only he or she loved me as much as the bottle?” That does not make him a narc but narcissistic, in my humble opinion. Plenty of nonviolent substance abusers exist too. I think the verbal abuse was mutual. Amber has admitted to physically abusing him. I am waiting on HG analysis.

          1. Contagious says:

            And when I say IPPS as booze my point is substance abuse and narcs are different. They could overlap but not a guarantee in my opinion.

          2. HG Tudor says:

            For those who have emotional empathy, drugs and alcohol are external stressors which can diminish/extinguish emotional empathy.

          3. Asp Emp says:

            Thank you for confirming and sharing that, HG. There are some people, ie I am one of them, that applied your work to my wisdom and I no longer feel the need to have any self-medication of any kind. As I no longer feel the need to ‘numb’ my emotions, or shut my thoughts off. There may be times, when I ‘flick’ the switch on / off but I do not reach out for any drink or drugs. That is how much willpower and inner strength I have gained, just by unlocking and releasing my past. That’s why I thank you. I don’t care what anyone else says, to me, you are a good man xxx

          4. Joa says:

            People drink too much. Systematic drinking is the worst. Even if they only drink a glass a day or only refuel on the weekend, they distort their healthy worldviev, losing control of their lives to some extent.

            As if they were drinking to think less… Strange.

            I like to think and I like to feel strong, even when it’s pain… I don’t like the alcoholic state of dullness and stupidity. As long as I’m alive, I want to absorb everything. The time for “feeling nothing” will be after death.

            I drink very rarely. A few times a year, usually in the summer, socialize, to conquer feelings and madness even more, not to dull them.

          5. WiserNow says:

            Contagious,
            “How many young adult female narcs have taken older men to the cleaners?”

            I have heard real-life cases of older very wealthy men marrying much younger women who have much less wealth in comparison. In one such case, the man organised a pre-nuptial agreement that specified exactly how much the woman he ‘loved’ would be entitled to in the event they separated or divorced.

            In that case, the law – very quietly – gave the older man every right to treat his younger wife in any way he wanted behind closed doors and if she left him or divorced, she would be left with virtually nothing.

            I can imagine that many young women get love-bombed by older wealthy men until the wedding day, or they become pregnant, or they have no prior experience of violent or abusive partners, or the women are ACONS.

            It can work both ways.

            My point here is not about whether it’s the man or the woman who is a narcissist. My point is that in this case – where it’s a woman – the legal system and the public have no limits on how far they go to make her into the monster.

            When famous or wealthy men do the same thing, it takes a protest movement, or a group of women making a class action, or a time-consuming political change in the law, or years of historical inquiries and allegations, etc. Even when such protests do happen, there are still those that say, “why didn’t she just leave?” or “she should have known” or “yes, he was abusive but she was a gold-digger”.

            My views are not just about this one case between Depp and Heard. I can see that she’s a narcissist and a liar.

            My views are about general public attitudes and how attitudes differ when it comes to men and women.

          6. HG Tudor says:

            But surely she’s not interested in his money and is marrying for love and respects the pre nup agreement as protecting his wealth which he acquired prior to the relationship?

          7. Asp Emp says:

            HG, I had wondered about the pre-nup, whether there was one in place. An interesting thing to consider because AH was the one who filed for divorce, not Johnny. AH does not have the “comprehension” that Jada Smith has due to the evolution of her narcissism. It is good that Johnny protected by a pre-nup, I think he knew that he needed to. Maybe this is why AH is so “angry”?

          8. WiserNow says:

            HG,
            Gaslighting, devaluation, smear campaigns, isolation, sexual degradation, coercive control and psychological torture doesn’t come cheap…

            …just kidding… 🙂

          9. Joa says:

            The reasons for marriages can be many. Love, friendship, security, respect, admiration, the desire to have children, making someone out of spite, the lack of other perspectives, family pressure, rivalry, social position, alibi, power, money. Dozens of variants and their variations.

            But I agree with Wiser – the public will lynch a woman sooner, with more ferocity and satisfaction, than a man.
            This is nothing new in our world order.

          10. Asp Emp says:

            Joa, your words in regard to why people marry, I’d agree. I grew up needing to be nurtured and not ‘led’ by money. Even today, those similar “principles” apply, I am not led by money, I would consider that as a bonus, I place inner peace (emotionally and mentally) before anything else really – a combination of my life’s experiences to where I am now, I could not ask for more. People will have different mindsets because of their own individual circumstances and experiences. I am much more like my grandmother, I can see that more clearly now and I am thankful for that 🙂

          11. WiserNow says:

            Thank you Joa.

            That is what I mean. Women are more quickly and more ferociously hated and vilified by society in general in situations like the one Amber Heard is in.

      3. Asp Emp says:

        Wendy, it was good to read your comment. Your words “What is on trial is Heard’s defamation of him being a pretty gruesome domestic abuser”- exactly. Johnny may not have succeeded his first court case that was held in the UK. The fact he is maintaining the pursuance of the “defamation” case because slander and libel are pretty serious when it is done on a public place (newspaper, social media etc). I took a company to employment tribunal and won my case, which included an allegation against me for slander, which was basically ‘written’ off by the Judge simply because I had stated correctly that the company had in fact discriminated me. I ended my job before the trial because I did not wish to continue working there because of their BS Personnel Manager. So, Johnny, is doing the right thing for himself, so that he can continue to act, interact with people, do music – a lot of things. Amber is finished, fked. Much kudos to Johnny, he does not seem fazed about the way the court proceedings are going because he has a good team supporting him. It is so brilliant that it is being filmed too – historical, potentially new training material for all kinds of people who work in civil services. Certainly material for HG’s work too, to ‘lift the lid’ on narcissistic behaviours. I am Team Johnny too 🙂

        1. WhoCares says:

          Asp Emp,

          “Much kudos to Johnny, he does not seem fazed about the way the court proceedings are going because he has a good team supporting him”

          Good point. You also don’t see Depp scrambling to evade, blame-shift, or make excuses for his own poor behaviour.

          1. Asp Emp says:

            Exactly, WhoCares. I can understand why this JD / AH trial would impact on you. Kudos to you for winning yours and you had a good supporter in HG to aid you as well as your own strengths 🙂

        2. wensical says:

          Hi Asp Emp! 😊
          Thank you for your comments. Hope you are well!
          This trial has got me fired up for sure. Just watching Amber and the display of phoniness strikes a cord in me probably because it’s such a reminder of how my ex narc displayed himself!
          I am watching every bit of it!

          That is awesome that you stood up for yourself and won! 👏👏 We have to pick and choose our battles in life and I feel Depp had to fight this one. He is still young with alot of career in front of him.

          I agree with you 💯 that this case will bring such insight to narcissism and new understanding to those who do civil and social work.

          I’m thankful it’s being televised! It’s incredible how everything HG has taught us is being revealed in the person of Amber Heard for the whole world to witness! We know it from our own experience but it gives me intense satisfaction to see his teaching of what a narcissist looks like unfolding before us and those who may have never had a clue of what it looks like it.

          Thanks Asp Emp, always love hearing your thoughts! 😊

          1. Asp Emp says:

            wensical, thank you so much for your response 🙂 I will say that I am glad Johnny has the chance to have his ‘say’ in a court in US after the loss of his case in the UK. This is where I think it may (or may not) have an impact on how the Law works in the UK especially in relation to defamation cases etc. I agree on the “intense satisfaction” aspect of HG’s work, his teachings, the variations in how he puts this education across to us 🙂 Lovely to hear from you 🙂

    2. WhoCares says:

      WiserNow,

      “The law is really letting women down in many ways.”

      Yes, it is. But claims such as Amber Heard’s help contribute to obscuring the matter.

      As a consequence, when a woman (true victim) cries ‘abuse’ in family law matter, people in the legal system have less belief/tolerance/empathy for her.

      But, that’s not the heart of the matter – because claims like Amber Heard’s also contribute to obscuring the fact that many men are the true victims of abuse in these situations. And that comes down to people not understanding the nature of narcissism.

      That’s why I value HG’s analysis on this one so much. (As do many others, by all the comments on YT, etc.)

      1. WiserNow says:

        WhoCares,

        There are many ways the “truth of the matter” can be obscured.

        One example:
        A man who grooms and keeps 15 mistresses and ‘obscures’ that by rephrasing the word ‘mistress’ and saying ‘intimate partner secondary source’ instead.

        Does it come as any surprise that the same man will highlight a woman’s behaviour as ‘not very nice’ while highlighting a multi-millionaire drug addict’s behaviour in this trial as ‘appropriate’.

        Also, “many men are the true victims of abuse”.

        I am not going to quote the research here because the research is plentiful and easily accessible online. However, about 75% of domestic violence victims are women across the board in various Western countries. 75% – and that is what is reported, compiled and considered an ‘average’ statistic. In intimate partner violence situations, women are much, much more likely to be the victims of repeated attacks. Women are much more likely to suffer serious injury or death. Women are much more likely to be the victims of financial control, stalking and surveillance.

        Research shows that the root causes of the higher prevalence of violence against women and girls is based on social and historical sexism and misogyny – the generally accepted social ‘subjective worldviews’ that subjugate women and girls

        WhoCares,
        With respect, I’m not going to continue with this conversation or thread, because quite frankly, I find the need to keep making the same points over and over again to grown adults is becoming ridiculous. The information is available everywhere for anyone who has access to a computer.

        1. WhoCares says:

          I enjoyed your stats, WiserNow.
          Thank-you for that.

        2. WhoCares says:

          WiserNow,

          I am aware of statistics such as these.

          “In intimate partner violence situations, women are much, much more likely to be the victims of repeated attacks.”

          Once having grasped much of HG’s
          work, I take some of the statistics with a grain of salt. Mostly because there can be instances where the male empath may have actually struck a woman (female narc) after being on the receiving end of years of abuse and provocation. Not saying that that occurrence is okay or acceptable, but it may be a reality.
          Also, female Mid-rangers who partner up with male narcissists (Lessers, or possibly even Mid-rangers as well) and then receive physical blows, may actually (because they would clearly perceive themselves as victims) report this as physical assault (which it is!).

          These are just some of many factors that I take into account when I hear about statistics.

          But I do appreciate the fact that you have done some research in this area.

    3. WhoCares says:

      Actually, the truth of the matter is that the law is really letting children down.

  8. lickemtomorrow says:

    Intrigued enough after HG’s analysis to listen to Amber Heard’s testimony.

    Everything she said rings true to me.

    I identified with some of her descriptions of abuse including being slapped (out of blue) after making a comment Depp didn’t like, and also being choked up against a wall during one assault. I had no problem in my mind’s eye visualising, as well as experiencing second hand, the physical abuse she described and its effects. I’m not concerned at all with body language analysis (and was very disappointed with one commentator who clearly has no idea what it is to experience a physically abusive – never mind narcissistic – relationship). I’m going on instinct, and every instinct of mine (body, mind and soul) tells me that Amber Heard’s testimony is truthful and these things did happen to her.

    That is not to say she is blameless in certain circumstances and in her approach at times to Johnny Depp, but another woman who was involved with him has since come out to comment on his issues with jealousy and control.

    Johnny Depp, in my opinion, is not what he appears to be and his fame will not cover all his faults. In fact, his exposure is highlighting some very dark aspects of his life and nature.

  9. Ki says:

    Greetings from NZ, HG. You don’t seem to have uploaded any videos for a few days, which is unusual as you are usually so prolific. Did I miss a bulletin about this? Maybe your videos are being posted behind a paywall? Or you’re taking a well-earned break. Maybe there’s an appliance requiring your immediate and full attention. Maybe your dealing with family/legal nonsense. Maybe you’re ill

    I hope you are OK and will resume posting your excellent posts soon. Can you – or one of your other followers – please let me know if this sudden absence has been addressed already?

  10. WiserNow says:

    To add to my earlier comment, I have now seen Amber Heard’s testimony as well as more court evidence of some of her behaviours while married to Johnny Depp.

    She is vile. A word that comes to mind is base. I have an open mind and compassion even for narcissists, but the more I learn about Amber, she is repulsive. She must have been so spoilt and indulged and her looks added to that. She has a massive sense of entitlement, together with no class.

    I’m seeing more and more that women narcissists who are physically attractive can be very deceptive and manipulative using their looks. I think empathic men become mesmerised with the visual appearance and that makes the sex and the love-bombing highly addictive. It makes me wonder though, what appears first – the beauty and attention or the narcissism?

    1. Viol. says:

      The beauty and attention just determine which manipulations the narcissism will employ. A narcissist who isn’t thought attractive will just use other techniques. Unless they’re Greaters, they won’t realize, “Well, X doesn’t work for me because not pretty enough, but I get good results with Y”; it will be instinctive..

      And then there’s the aging Somatic. Look what happens to people like Madonna, who have trade on their sex appeal for years.

      In a discussion with a former co-worker about several longtime celebrities involved in “inappropriate behavior” cases, he noted that the backstage/off-set hijinks considered no big deal just a few years ago are now a very big deal, and a number of people in the performing arts were genuinely surprised by the cultural shift. He mentioned that Wanna-be Playuh-Narc was constantly raging about it to him.

      It has obviously/not occurred to WBPN that the cultural shift is only part of the reduced welcome for his attempts to be flirtatious: he’s no longer the 20-something guy with the ponytail, the sidies, the 3-day stubble, and the collection of plaid flannel jackets that marked him as one of countless other Grunge Rebels-Against-Convention.

  11. Freshpearls says:

    They seem like both narcs ??

  12. Carolyn says:

    Another great analysis HG, thank you.
    Waiting for Johnny Depp analysis, Im still clueless of what he is. Every time I start to believe he is narcissist he does something that shows emotions that seem so normal, real and human. It feels he is in rythm with his own emotions and emotions of other people around. And he does it so efortlessly. It is difficult to believe he has no empathy. But there are lots of evidence he might be a narcissist as well. I also wonder why they got married? It seems Amber was devaluing him (and he was devaluing her if he is a narcissist) long before marriage. Always thought narcissists get married only during golden periods. From what we can hear in court it seems they were both in deep devaluation at the time.

  13. WiserNow says:

    I have only watched bits and pieces of this trial. I think it makes a mockery of the law and of mental health issues by broadcasting it to the public on social media, especially since it involves two famous people.

    Whatever you may think of Johnny Depp and Amber Heard – the Hollywood so-called stars – they are still two human beings who have a right to privacy in this legal case should they want it. The fallout of the social media broadcast is going to have greater repercussions on them than the trial verdict will. Also, the legal proceedings and jury decision are contaminated by the public opinions and biases available daily about every tiny aspect of the trial from people in the public who have little or no empathy and/or little to no knowledge of, or regard for, the law.

    To me the whole situation has devolved into some kind of grotesque theatre that’s more about entertainment than it is about justice.

    It has become a media circus and people are taking sides on who is right and who is wrong. While I think Amber Heard’s actions are despicable and she has some serious issues, I don’t think Johnny Depp comes across as squeaky clean or entirely honest either.

    I saw the writing on a mirror Johnny did in blood with his severed finger and then in paint when he dipped his severed finger in paint. Those are the actions of a man who was about 50 years old at the time. Holy moly. He seems manic and disordered too, although that may be a result of drug and alcohol use and addiction, something that exacerbates both of their disordered actions.

    Everyone keeps saying Johnny Depp is a great talented actor. I’m sorry, but I can’t really see it. Not that Amber Heard is. I don’t think I’ve seen her in anything but I doubt that she has great talent either. Johnny Depp has acted in roles with lots of makeup, costumes, special effects etc acting as fantasy characters or caricatures. To say he is a highly talented actor – I can’t see it.

    I believe Johnny does have empathy, however, I don’t think he is a saint. I recently read an article about Marilyn Manson (I really hope Manson comes under the Tudorscope at some stage) and Johnny was named as one of Manson’s best friends. I think that says something about Johnny’s attitude to women and relationships in general. Marilyn Manson has been accused by numerous ex-girlfriends of physical and sexual torture, control, abuse, gaslighting, grooming and psychological cruelty. This doesn’t mean Johnny does the same things or condones abuse, but if he is one of Manson’s good friends, it does seem to show that Johnny is okay with it at some level.

    The way Johnny spoke about Amber in the texts where he said he would f**k her burnt corpse… that does not sound like something a loving husband would say, even if his empathy was totally eroded and he was angry with her. At that point, I think all the love he may have felt for her was totally gone.

    In my opinion, I think both Johnny and Amber are immature and self-entitled in their own ways, however, Amber uses physical violence and is highly manipulative in seeking to gain from Johnny’s wealth.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Depp´s team wanted it aired to avoid the risk of Heard portraying a selective approach to the testimony.

      1. Wendy says:

        Agree 💯! It was very strategic and has caused Johnny to win in the court of public opinion whether he wins the actual defamation case or not.

      2. WhoCares says:

        Also: give them enough rope…

        1. wensical says:

          Absolutely true and man did they get some rope with her on the stand! I’m really curious about Depp’s lawyer and how he reacted to her mentioning “Kate Moss and the stairs” incident. He looked very happy when she said that. 🤔
          Maybe they can call Kate Moss in to testify that was a lie in Johnnys defense. IFK but the plot is thickening for sure!

      3. WiserNow says:

        HG,

        In any trial, whether it’s aired publicly or not, the legal teams for either side actively aim to portray their respective cases selectively though. The lawyers for both the defense and the prosecution seek to sway the opinions of the jury. That’s the job of lawyers in addition to presenting the evidence.

        By wanting the trial to be aired publicly, I think Depp’s legal team based the strategy on Depp’s popularity as a celebrity being greater than Heard’s. The strategy itself to air the case publicly is a strategy outside of the definition of what is ‘law’. Instead of having a jury of 12 people, the case now has a jury of millions of people worldwide.

        The law isn’t about who is more popular or who has the more likeable legal team, it’s about the legal decisions made by a court following the principles of law. Johnny Depp may not like the decisions and his fans and supporters may not like the decisions, but they are nevertheless, decisions made under a particular set of legal rules.

        It makes me think of a case in Australia in recent years where Cardinal George Pell appealed his guilty verdict in relation to child sex abuse convictions (previously decided by a jury decision). The appeal resulted in his prior guilty verdicts being quashed due to legal technicalities.

        I think it’s fair to say that the majority of the public were angry about the appeal outcome and disillusioned by the court’s system of justice. This was based on Pell’s shady past and prior statements as well as his accuser being a highly credible witness.

        The thing is though, that the legal system prevailed in the case. The case wasn’t turned over to the court of public opinion because one of the legal teams decided that would be a winning strategy.

        Johnny Depp’s popularity or career success shouldn’t be the deciding factor in a legal case.

        The first YouTube video I clicked on by chance was titled, ‘Johnny Depp tells story of meeting Amber Heard’. I listened to Johnny ramble on for about 13 minutes answering the question of how he met Amber. At the very start of his answer, he claimed that around 2008, he and Hunter Thompson discussed one of Thompson’s manuscripts, ‘The Rum Diary’, and that both of them thought it should be made into a movie.

        That made me wonder why he needed to go into an elaborate, long-winded answer that took 13 minutes to spell out details that weren’t related to Amber Heard. During his rambling answer, none of the legal representatives uttered a word. Why didn’t any of them object on the basis of relevance or hearsay etc? Why didn’t Johnny just say, “we met when I was auditioning actresses for a particular part etc etc”?

        Also, I googled Hunter Thompson and found from a quick search that Thompson died from suicide in 2005. Depp was a friend of Thompson’s and would have clearly known about the timing of his death, since Depp allegedly spent $3mil on blasting Thompson’s ashes out of a cannon, which Depp said was one of Thompson’s last wishes.

        I think that airing the case publicly is not a relevant standard regarding legal principles. It is too easy to sway the public based on popularity and biased opinions.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          “The law isn’t about who is more popular or who has the more likeable legal team, it’s about the legal decisions made by a court following the principles of law.”

          No, it isn’t. You are naive if you think it is.

          1. WiserNow says:

            HG,
            I take it that you mean it is naive to think the law is about legal decisions made by a court following the principles of law. Is that what you meant?

            I’m curious now. Can you give a little more detail regarding your views on what the law is about please?

          2. HG Tudor says:

            The law is simply a tool to be utilised by those who have the power and wealth to use it.

          3. WiserNow says:

            I see. Thank you for your frank answer HG.

          4. Lucycita says:

            “The law is simply a tool to be utilised by those who have the power and wealth to use it.”

            I don’t get it HG. The vast majority of people who do not have significant power and wealth where should they turn to? A rule of law should include justice for all, for those with or without power, with or without wealth.

          5. HG Tudor says:

            Should does not equate to it does.

  14. wensical says:

    Amber Heard just described the start of their relationship as a “whirlwind romance” and that he put her on a pedestal. Made her feel like a million dollars. He wanted to keep it secret and he started off very fast. Uh oh! Sounds like love bombing by Johnny to me! Ugh 😑

    1. Viol. says:

      She apparently stole that from The Talented Mr Ripley.

      1. wensical says:

        Yes, I heard Ms. Heard stole it. I was a little worried for a minute but after watching the worst acting I believe I have ever witnessed I am all in for team Johnny!

        Wow, it’s incredible the show that she is putting on. The grandiose and victim narcissist shining through her so brightly. Such a pretty woman with such an ugly self!

        I pity Johnny for enduring the abuse from her. I am happy it is getting all of the attention it is getting to shed some light on narcissistic abuse and what it looks like. Happy a man stood up against abuse from a woman knowing he would get shit about it.

        1. Viol. says:

          He’s had to confront at least two demons. When a man accuses a woman of abuse, many will not believe him, and accuse him of projecting. If people do believe him, they will think him weak. He must have strong Truth-seeking traits to proceed as he has done.

          1. Wendy says:

            Viol, great points and I agree. I really don’t think Johnny felt like he had any more to lose. He was very aware that all of audio recordings would be coming out. That takes a strong person and one that I believe is telling the truth to allow all that to be aired out in public.

  15. Fdz says:

    There is a chance her new PR team would have connections with powerful media personnel trying to alter the public perception of her. For instance I noticed any publications belonging to R Murdoch (the sun, news.com.au etc..) are going desperately against Depp with their headlines hopefully to no avail.

  16. Duchessbea says:

    Wendy, very much agree with you. But on the other hand her legal team are only going on her instructions and information she has given to them. I guess you can see what they have to work with and who they are working with. Speaks volumes. I am finding this case very interesting to watch. I thought Johnny was unfairly treated by the Courts in London and I very much hope Johnny wins his case in US. Evidence so far submitted and the witness testimony speaks for itself. Its obvious Johnny very much loved Amber when he was with her and she only used him for what she could get. Lesson learned on Johnny’s part. HG, your commentary on this I am finding very interesting but I am very much looking forward to your commentary when Amber takes the stand. I am looking forward to hearing your analysis of same. Best, DB

    1. Wendy says:

      Hi Duchessbea, that’s a great point about her legal team. Thanks for sharing it!

      I am going back and forth a little with Johnny possibly being a narcissist. I still believe he exhibits high narcissist traits but my dilemma is whether they are caused by him having NPD or because his empathetic traits have been worn down.

      I honestly am a little worried for him after hearing Amber’s psychologist testify in her defense today. She was very credible and seemed competent and professional in her medical opinions. She is painting Johnny out to be the narcissist abuser and said that Amber has PTSD from all of his abuse. She described Amber as being trauma bonded to Johnny.

      Of course this is her “job” as Amber’s expert witness but IDK, it’s not a great start for Johnny as we get prepared for Amber’s side to come out.

      1. Duchessbea says:

        Wendy,
        You raised some very good points there. I found the medical opinions interesting but as you say she is for the defence but she is also an expert witness. In my view, I believe Johnny is showing narcissistic traits on the basis that he was just so worn down and ‘brow beaten’ so to speak with the way he has been treated by Amber and others. Before Johnny met Amber his behaviour was always consistent and straight down the line. Yes he might have had a wild night here or there but haven’t we all? No one is perfect and going on the testimony of previous witnesses, Johnny is a stand up guy. To give one of his penthouses to a friend down on his luck and trying to make ends meet, and to let Amber’s friends live rent free in other penthouses in downtown LA, I mean that is beyond decent. But that is just my opinion. I am sure HG will give a far thorough and greater analysis and a detailed summation when the case is concluded.

  17. lickemtomorrow says:

    Haha to “you can’t shine a turd like Amber Heard”, very good HG 🙂

    Fascinated that Depp’s lawyers argued for a live stream of the proceedings, which no doubt was to ‘unmask’ Amber Heard in front of the world. Can’t say I blame him after the previous Court ruling in the UK, but it somewhat smacks of the antics of a Greater Narcissist in terms of malice.

    I’m convinced we’ve got some narc on narc action happening here, and both ‘players’ want to win the game.

    Depp got trounced in the UK and now he’s going to ensure Amber gets trounced in the US. At least I imagine that’s what he’s hoping for … that her reputation is as ruined as his supposedly has been. There seems to be an element of the fans sticking by him, and no doubt they’ll be thrilled to see Amber get her comeuppance in the circumstances. Her fans no doubt will find reasons to excuse her behaviour, or minimise it, so they can remain in support of her. I’m not sure it’s going to change the stance of the fans. But what we have is at least one narcissist being unmasked so far.

    I’ll be interested to hear your conclusions on Depp, HG.

  18. Wendy says:

    She ought to fire that incompetent legal team of hers, lol.

    1. Asp Emp says:

      Wendy, she did! Laughing…..

      1. A Victor says:

        Oh okay, reading all these comments, Johnny must be an empath, or at least a normal. I’ve thought MG but most probably wrong again. It’s all good for the learning though…

        1. Wendy says:

          Hi AV, I honestly don’t know if he is a empath. I think he very well could be a normal with varying degrees of empathic and narcissistic traits. I believe the substance abuse has definitely played a role in diminishing his empathic traits as well as the consistent abuse from Amber.

          So, don’t count your guess out too soon! I don’t think he is a full blown narcissist but we shall soon find out. I lean more towards empath because of his justice seeking traits. Also, the only times he has shown more narcissistic traits seem to have been in the midst of the battles with Amber and while under the influence of something.

          With all of those factors clouding his real personality this one is hard to figure out. Still sway towards normal with higher empathic traits or empath with at times higher narcissistic traits. Lol, I’m sure I will probably be completely wrong! 😂

          1. A Victor says:

            Hi Wendy, as an empath who went through several years in my young adult life not concerned about other people and then realizing after the fact that I had hurt people during that time and feeling horrible about it, I have wondered if this is something an empath could do for decades, and live with it. I see a lot of the behavior Johnny has done as objectifying and potentially very harmful to others, and he has a very long career of doing those things. But, is he pulled in or is he the perpetrator of? That’s what I’m curious to know. I have been getting an extremely different picture of empaths in the last few months. HG has always said they are not saints but I’m starting to see that they can often be people I have no desire to interact with, and that can also go from them to me. It doesn’t make either narcissists, without empathy and seeking only the prime aims. So curious to hear what Johnny is, either way will be very instructive.

      2. Wendy says:

        Oh yeah, the PR team! Lol

        1. Wendy says:

          Hi AV, you make very good points and it’s something I would like to learn more about concerning empaths.

          I realize that as an empath there are situational stressors in my life that have absolutely diminished my empathic traits and caused my narcissistic ones to take the lead! Pretty recently at that! We as empaths are not saints and some definitely less than others, lol.

          I can’t tell you how much I have learned about my self as a result of coming here and listening to HG’s work.

          I am excited to hear the final analysis of Johnny. I agree with you that either way it will be enlightening. 😊

          Wendy

          1. Asp Emp says:

            Wendy, RE: “I can’t tell you how much I have learned about my self as a result of coming here and listening to HG’s work”- it is so good to read someone else saying what I have said about myself and HG’s work.

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