President Trump : A Very Capitol Narcissist
What happens when you threaten a narcissist´s control?
The narcissist must nullify that threat, either directly, indirectly or through withdrawal.
If you tell a narcissist that he is not good looking, this threatens his sense of superiority and thus his control. His narcissism will compel him to nullify this threat to his control. One way of doing this would be for the narcissist to respond with, “Yes I am, you do not know what you are talking about. Ask anybody, they will tell you I am good looking.”
The narcissist has sought to nullify the threat to his control by denial (asserting he is good looking), denial again (you do not know what you are talking about therefore I deny you are correct) and grandiose triangulation (ask anybody, they will tell you I am good looking.”
What happens if you tell the President of the United States The New York Times has issued the first of its reports chronicling his tax filings, revealing that he paid a mere $750 in federal income taxes the year he ran for president, and again during his first year in office?
You threaten his control. His narcissism therefore needs to nullify the threat immediately. President Trump did this by utilising his favoured form of (basic) manipulation, dismissive denial. He said the reports were “made up”.
“It’s fake news,” he told reporters at the time. “It’s totally fake news. Made up. Fake. We went through the same stories. You could have asked me the same questions four years ago. I had to litigate this and talk about it. Totally fake news. No.”
Then, he deflected blame, attempting to cast doubts about the legitimacy of the report with his own false claim.
Trump has used the allegation of fake news over 2000 times since he took office. If I told him that, he would tell me that too was fake news. Why? Because in his world it is fake.
What happens when you tell a narcissist he has lost the Presidential election?
You threaten his control. On a massive scale. You are threatening his control over hundreds of millions of people within his country and furthermore, by stripping him of the position of President (in due course) you threaten his control over billions of people worldwide.
This is a huge problem for the narcissist and his narcissism instinctively will reject this threat to his control and galvanises the narcissist to take action to nullify this threat and this is what the world has witnessed on a near daily basis since it was announced that Joe Biden had won the US Presidential election in November 2020.
Repeated allegations of electoral fraud, that the election win was stolen away from him, that there is a conspiracy to usurp him from office and similar assertions have been made. This culminated in pro-Trump protestors storming the Capitol building in Washington on January 6th 2021, drawing worldwide condemnation for such actions.
What is going on?
President Trump is a narcissist. He is what I categorise as an Upper Lesser Type B Narcissist. What does this mean? These are some of the fundamental points.
- He has no emotional empathy
- He sees the world through his narcissistic perspective of people either being under his control/giving him control (white) or threatening his control/not under control (black)
- He does not operate a façade, meaning what you see is what you get. He is not polished, smooth or statesmanlike, but instead is bombastic, belligerent and bullying
- He has achieved considerable success in terms of wealth, fame and political power
- He does not know that he is a narcissist
- You are either with him (“you are great, great people, we love you”) or you are against him (“the fake news media / “Crooked Hillary” (Hillary Clinton) Leaking Sneaky Dianne Feinstein, “Al Frankenstein” (Al Franken) Puppet Jones (Doug Jones) – the list could go on and on)
- His manipulations, which need to assert control, are obvious and rudimentary
- He has a deluded, inflated sense of self, seeing himself as the best, the expert, the most successful
- He has a huge sense of entitlement and does not recognise boundaries (witness the “grab ém by the pussy comment, talking over people/ interrupting people e.g. Joe Biden in the first televised presidential debate
- He engages in repeated and habitual behaviour which is designed to assert control over anybody and everybody he deals with
- He engages in repeated and habitual behaviour which is designed to draw fuel (this is an emotional response) from anybody and everybody he deals with.
Most leaders are narcissists, so President Trump is hardly alone in that regard. However, where he differs from the likes of say, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan) is that he is a very obvious narcissist. There are thousands of examples which demonstrate this very clearly. Narcissists cause problems, narcissists create great things too, but that is a discussion for another time. This article´s purpose is not to explain in detail why President Trump is a narcissist and why he is an Upper Lesser Type B, its purpose is to help you understand what has happened recently by placing it in the context of President Trump being a narcissist.
Like any other narcissist, everything that President Trump says and does is done through the lens of his narcissism. We are able to understand the reasons he behaves as he does through that particular prism which interprets his behaviour. Many, many people support President Trump, they regard his behaviours are honest, refreshing, cocking a snook to established political dynasties, a man who speaks in terms ordinary people understand, a complete change to the liberal technocratic elite and those supporters are perfectly entitled to support him since his stance resonates with them. His detractors see him as liar, a bully, a contrarian, a disgrace to office, someone who shames the United States, a racist, a sexist and a bigot. A haughty, high-handed dismissive individual. They too are entitled to form their opinion.
Whatever you think of Trump, hate him or hail him, love him or loathe him, that is a matter for you and you alone. I am not here to tell you to worship him or wish he never existed, not at all, I am here to explain his behaviour because he is one of my kind, a narcissist.
Let us look at what happened with regard to the recent US Presidential Election.
President Donald Trump of the Republican Party, who was elected in 2016, sought re election to a second term, against former vice president Joe Biden of the Democratic Party. The general election was held on November 3, with voters directly selecting their state’s members to the U.S. Electoral College. On November 7, most national media organizations projected that Biden had clinched enough electoral votes to be named the US President Elect. The formal voting by the Electoral College took place on December 14. The US Congress was then scheduled to certify the electoral result on January 6, 2021, and the new president inaugurated on January 20, 2021.
There is a considerable amount of detail which exists with regard to the timeline between November 3rd and now and to list it all whilst instructive would be unwieldly, therefore a variety of representative examples serve to demonstrate the behaviour of the narcissist to the repeated threats to his control. What follows next is a selection of threats to Trump´s control and the response to that threat. It is important to understand that from President Trump´s perspective, all of these were credible threats and furthermore his actions were entirely appropriate. This is not a perspective that was always shared by others however, including news networks, judges, politicians and the electorate.
- As early as November 5th Trump launched lawsuits in the Chatham County, Georgia Superior Court and the Michigan Court of Claims, both lawsuits were dismissed. These law suits sought to nullify the threat to Trump´s control posed by the belief that there was a voter fraud which was adversely affecting the outcome of the election
- A Pennsylvania state judge allowed poll watchers to observe a Philadelphia ballot within 6 feet. Again this seeks to nullify the threats.
- When the Associated Press, Fox News and other major networks called Pennsylvania for Biden allowing him to be named President Elect, Rudi Giuliani held a press conference at Four Seasons Total Landscaping in Philadelphia to discuss the status of Trumps legal challenges to the state´s ballot counting process
- On November 7th, Biden issued a statement saying that “With the campaign over, it’s time to put the anger and the harsh rhetoric behind us and come together as a nation” This threatens Trumps control again and he responds with refusing to concede, Trump proceeds with his legal challenges, releasing a statement saying that “this election is far from over. Joe Biden has not been certified as the winner of any states, let alone any of the highly contested states headed for mandatory recounts, or states where our campaign has valid and legitimate legal challenges that could determine the ultimate victor … until the American People have the honest vote count they deserve and that Democracy demands
- A series of legal challenges were brought by Trump, some succeed, some fail, some were dropped. Again, all of them are his response to the threat to his control posed by the stated loss of the election.
- December 12 Trump tweeted ” I WON THE ELECTION IN A LANDSLIDE, but remember, I only think in terms of legal votes, not all of the fake voters and fraud that miraculously floated in from everywhere! What a disgrace!”
This tweet provides excellent insight into President Trump´s narcissism. There is no evidence that he has won by a landslide, but his narcissism tells him that this is the case and therefore he believes it, rejecting the threat to his control posed by the election defeat by declaring he won by a landslide. (Delusion, Assertion of Control). How does he know he won by a landslide? Were there opinion polls beforehand predicting that? No. Did he ring every voter in the US and 80% confirmed they voted for him? No. Does he have access to information proving that he had won by a landslide, some definitive mystical list? No. His narcissism tells him he has won by a landslide and he believes it despite there being no evidence to support that.
Such a level of delusion is part of the narcissism, although he does not realise this and it brought to mind the behaviour of “Baghdad Bob” In March of 2003, during the war on Iraq, Saddam’s Minister of Information was everybody’s favorite inadvertent comedian. Sporting a black beret and a bombastic lexicon, Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf appeared on TV daily to predict American failure and deny the Baghdad invasion–sometimes even as U.S. tanks appeared behind him. He claimed the war against the US was being won, just as a US tank rolled past him as he was being interviewed, such was the level of delusion at which he operated.
A narcissist who was more evolved, who had lost the election may well have stated :-
“I have legitimate concerns that a very tight contest has not been counted correctly and that I have prevailed, albeit by a narrow margin of victory. I shall be asking x,y and z to undertake an independent and thorough investigation and recount to ensure the correct and legitimate outcome is determined, democracy must prevail. I shall invite Mr Biden to agree to a stay on any announcement and potential transition until this matter has been thoroughly and properly investigated.” Could Mr Biden refuse? Possibly, but he would look bad. This would have been the smart move, but President Trump´s narcissism does not operate this way. Instead, he undermines himself with the unsubstantiated announcement that he won by a landslide, but, like many narcissists, his narcissism blinds him to how self-defeating the proclamation is because the narcissism does not care about what comes next, it only cares about securing control in that moment and will do so by any means, no matter how ridiculous or bizarre.
It is important to explain that Trump is not doing this because he is a bad loser. He is not doing this because he somehow hopes that he will be proved right. He honestly believes he is right. He honestly believes that the election has been rigged. It is not the case that he knows it is not rigged but he is being awkward just for the hell of it. He has an absolute conviction that he is right because of his sense of entitlement to remain President. He cannot believe or accept that he could lose. Through his narcissistic perspective he believes he should remain President and his narcissism is telling him (although he does not know that this is his narcissism) that if the election result says he is no longer president then that can only be one thing, fake news, it is rigged, it is stolen and therefore his narcissism compels him to launch these various lawsuits as an attempt to assert his control over the election process itself and to remain in power.
It is worth pointing out that this would occur irrespective of any evidence to support the claims. The stated election loss causes absolutely massive wounding to Trump. His narcissism, which is a self defence mechanism fires up and effectively says “Our narcissist´s control is being threatened on a massive scale, we must mobilise to make him take action to assert control and nullify this threat. We must also gather fuel at the same time. Have him refuse to concede, have him launch lawsuits, have him give press conferences refusing to back down and alleging the vote has been rigged, get that Twitter feed going into over drive. Get that control and fuel, go, go,go! And thus, Trump mobilises driven by his narcissism.
If the evidence existed supporting his claims (and so far none has been found either at all or at a level that has been accepted by the relevant decision making bodies) then his attempts to assert control would have met with success and he would have been declared victor, he would remain President for a second term and control would be asserted once again. As it is, these repeated attempts have continued to meet with failure, but his narcissism will not lie down and just shrug and go “oh well, we tried to nullify the threats, but hey shucks we failed”. No, it keeps going. Rather than continue to list each and every example, a summary is effective in demonstrating these points.
- Trump made audacious and repeated claims of election fraud, more than had ever been made before and sought to coax elected officials to accept his position. (Assertion of Control, direct and indirect)
- Lawsuits have developed around elections before, but never in US history has an election been followed by a legal battle of the scope mounted by the Trump campaign. Trump, the loser, sued in every state, with multiple lawsuits, where flipping the result could help him win. (Assertion of Control)
- The fact that Trump lost basically all the lawsuits has not altered his view that the election was rigged (Delusion, Denial, Assertion of Control)
- Political pressure on local elections officials. This was the year for local officials from both parties to receive death threats as they worked to finish the vote counting and then certify the result. Many Republican officials, as in Philadelphia, Michigan and Georgia, reacted to the pressure with expressions of outrage and brave statements of principle. But other local Republican officials, as in Detroit, responded to the merest charm offensive from Trump by trying to retract their certification of the county results. (Assertion of Control)
- Goaded by Trump, legislators in Pennsylvania asked the supreme court to prevent certification by the state of its result. Republican Senate candidates in Georgia demanded that the Republican secretary of state withdraw from the certification there. The Republican party in Arizona demanding that the election not be certified and even challenging Twitter followers to express their willingness to die to prevent certification. (Assertion of Control)
- On the whole, efforts by these state elected officials to respond to Trump’s sudden demand that they overthrow what everyone had previously recognized as a democratic process were half-hearted and ineffectual, nevertheless, they still amounted to a demonstration of his attempts on a repeated basis to assert control by nullifying the huge threat to his control posed by the stated election defeat.
The repeated failure to concede, to accept that the election was not rigged and that he has lost has mystified many people, but they do not realise that President Trump honestly believes he has been cheated and he will go on believing that because from his perspective he HAS been cheated. Moreover, many that support him and voted for him, would, understandably, prefer him to remain President and therefore it is unsurprising to see his supporters rally behind him, seizing on his declarations of election rigging and breathing fresh life into the allegations.
As the machinery continued to grind forward towards Joe Biden´s inauguration, it was necessary for Congress to confirm that Joe Biden would be President and this would be done on January 6. Numerous pro-Trump supporters had planned to exercise their legitimate right of protest at the Capitol building in Washington. This resulted in the Capitol being stormed by protestors and the death of four people and thereafter worldwide coverage and condemnation. What has President Trump´s behaviour demonstrated in relation to this recent event?
He called on his supporters who stormed the U.S. Capitol building to “go home” in a video message and subsequent tweet on Wednesday, which Twitter has now removed, but defended the destructive mob for infiltrating the building and said he “loves” his supporters who forced their way into the Capitol.
Trump told supporters he “know[s] your pain, I know your hurt” for their anger over his presidential loss, saying, “We love you, you’re very special.”
The president continued to insist the presidential election was fraudulent, which there is no evidence to support.
“You have to go home now, we have to have peace, we have to have law and order,” Trump said, saying that his supporters “can’t play into the hands of these people.”
Trump asserts control over his supporters through the manipulation of flattery by describing them as special and that he loves them. He does not care for how this would be viewed as condoning the behaviour because he does not operate a façade and it is necessary for him to do this in order to not only assert control over his supporters but also once again to reject the election result. Notice that although he tells the supporters to go home and there has to be law and order, he blameshifts by saying that it is actually the fault of “these people” because if you keep protesting they will just use it against you. A classic victim mentality exhibited by the narcissist.
In a now-removed tweet, Trump then told his supporters to “remember this day forever” and said of the violent break-in to the Capitol building, “These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away.” He continues the delusion driven by his narcissism and continues to reject and nullify the threat to his control caused by the election defeat.
Trump’s video message came after President-elect Joe Biden called on Trump to put an “end” to the “insurrection” and denounce his supporters in more forceful terms. Joe Biden´s call of course would be a threat to Trump´s control also and he rejects this by not denouncing them and instead flattering them.
Trump´s response to the storming of the Capitol is no surprise whatsoever and is commensurate with the type of narcissist that he is. Congress eventually certified Joe Biden´s election win and there have been calls for the 25th Amendment to be used to strip Trump of his presidential powers after yesterday´s events, such calls of course again will amount to a further threat to his control.
Trump remains bullish. He is extraordinarily well fuelled, both in terms of negative and positive fuel from his supporters and detractors in positions both high and low. This will enable him to continue to assert control over anybody who challenges his control further and this will not result in him lying down and going quietly.
In the meantime, Joe Biden, will be inaugurated as the next president of the United States. You cannot relax though Joe, as you will be going under the Tudorscope in due course also.
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I found this article fascinating. Maybe the best summary/explanation of Trump that I have read. It will be interesting to see how current events play out in the US with the Capital Riot hearing. His reactions so far, labelling it a ‘Kangaroo Court’ are predictable. Whether he or others will face any consequences remains to be seen.
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“REVEALED: Trump ‘was far sicker with COVID than he admitted and he obtained the experimental drug Regeneron from White House officials but Melania turned it down,’ sources claim”
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What do you get when you guzzle down sweets? Eating as much as an elephant eats What are you at getting terribly fat? What do you think will come of that? I don’t like the look of it
Trump is Augustus Gloop?
Presidents’ Day is coming this month so I would like to write a comment about one of the most amazing leaders in the history of mankind and who I believe to be an empath, Abraham Lincoln. I know that this article is about Trump, and I apologize if this is inappropriate but I feel the need to think about something that really inspires me and so I wanted to think about a very good person who had genuine empathy and became a very successful leader/president who has kept the country together because he was not a divider but a real uniter, and not just by saying the right words but where his actions also supported his intention to have both sides of the country be united as one. He even ignored calls to punish the South because his focus was to restore the country as a united country. Very different from the attitude today of impeaching a private citizen and name calling of people from different political persuasions.
So much evidence points to him as being an empathic person:
– He was known to be called “Honest Abe” because of his honesty (decency and moral compass).
– I have read that people described his empathy as “raw” as illustrated in one of the anecdotes where he saved a pig from the mud. Lincoln saw a random pig trapped in the mud but he decided to not help the pig because his clothes were new and he didn’t want it to get damaged or dirty. Two miles after he decided to turn around and help the pig. He told his friend that it wasn’t benevolence but selfishness that drove him to save the pig because he had to alleviate his mind of the pain from the thought of the pig suffering.
– One of the books I have been reading to my son mentioned that as a young boy Lincoln sometimes stayed awake all night contemplating about things in life and people and the sermons he heard from church. I believe that it is an empathic trait to be contemplative about things like that based on my personal observations and experiences. I don’t think that Normals even do that. I have noticed that about myself and even my son which I think is common to empaths but not normals.
– I also believe that Lincoln’s wife Mary Todd was a narcissist based on the things that I have read about her which I can write here someday.
– Lincoln had dead eyes which to me is a red flag for narcissism. However, I have learned that dead eyes can also be a sign of depression. From what I have read about Lincoln though, especially from the book Team of Rivals, he didn’t have depression because he was very high functioning. What he had was a melancholic temperament which he probably always had since childhood. I think melancholic people tend to be very reflective and sensitive. But he was also very high functioning, even tempered, logical, strategic, and cunning that he even outmaneuvered his narcissistic opponents politically.
I just think that he was the perfect person for that time that he was president and I believed that his desire to help the slaves was coming from real empathy and because of his empathy he was able to make such a drastic change without completely dividing the country. I think that for the most part narcissists have an advantage in politics because of their ability to do things that people with empathy, honesty, decency, and conscience will not be able to do. But it doesn’t mean that they are better leaders than empaths. Empaths can be amazing leaders as well as long as they have the right traits.
I want to add that from what I have read, Lincoln also visited wounded soldiers from both the North and the South and that people who knew him could tell how he was genuinely affected when he saw people suffering.
Regarding going after people to punish them, he said “I have always found that mercy bears richer fruits than strict justice.”
I want to add, please delete if inappropriate for this article, that another evidence that Lincoln was empathic was that many people said that he was not afraid to share blame for failure which I believe a lot of narcissists would not be able to because of their defense mechanism. Although he was also ready to take credit for success which shows he had a very healthy amount of self confidence and he did not belittle himself which in my opinion a lot of empaths, especially the victims of abuse have a bad habit of doing. He was also very aware of his own weaknesses and he made steps to overcome them. One of his weaknesses was giving people too many second chances which is I believe a part of his empathic makeup as you have written in your articles about empaths. He decided to overcome that weakness by deciding ahead of time on deadlines and firing the person who failed to meet his red line. I think that a lot of Lincoln’s traits really remind me of the articles you wrote about empaths, especially his ability and willingness to listen to different perspectives. He was very ambitious, competitive, and some people even believe to be cunning which were all narcissistic traits but he had real empathy and many of his decisions and actions were very much affected by his sense of what is right and his genuine care for the people of his country.
I had to say, for the record, that *FLOTUS Obama SLAYED today! She’s gorgeous. Her husband is so, so lucky to have her. #comethroughforeverFLOTUS #everything #flawless
*Former
MUST-WATCH: James Corden Les Mis parody of Trump’s term ending. Corden’s probably a narc himself (has HG called this one?) but it’s still fun–top-notch performances from the ensemble:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E4aTjeCP0Lo
Corden is a cunt. That is all you need to know.
God, you do make me laugh…..
Correct on two fronts.
God = one correct…. the other correct?
That’s an insult to cunts. They have several useful purposes.
Touche.
Eye sea watt yew deed their.
I hope that all is well your way, HG. I am finding myself missing you and your guidance right now. I just read the headline “Pence and Trump Finally Speak after Post-Riot Estrangement.” Wouldn’t I love to be a fly on Pence’s head!
I’m guessing Pelosi is as much a narcissist as Trump. It’s not enough for NY City & State to take him down, as she knows they will. SHE wants to be the one to do it.
Yes, but I think that’s fair. Haha
I’m really curious how his hardcore followers are going to handle reality when he’s no longer president. Will they have withdrawals? Depression? With his Twitter banned, he’s lost his main avenue to reach them. It’s like almost half the country is in an abusive relationship with him and they don’t even know it. They are lied to and gaslighted regularly and they LOVE it. I guess this is how my friend felt about me when I was with the narc. She thought I was nuts and she was angry and disappointed in me. It’s truly fascinating yet horrifying to see the psychological issues behind this national issue and not something I thought I would ever see here. There is no getting through to some but I wonder how many will come around to reality once they don’t have his constant presence anymore. I know for me once the narc and I no longer worked together, and I didn’t see him all the time, things became a lot clearer for me. When you’re in the thick of it logic goes out the window. Distance can help with clarity.
Great Sunday morning reading, HG, including your ripostes. Thank you. Now that I am recovered from my personal entanglement, I think I like your political articles the best.
I am finding that many progressives think the storming of the Capitol was a treasonous plot orchestrated by Trump and when I try to explain that Trump does not see it that way (because he is out for fuel, because he is incapable of planning, etc) they think *I* am blind. It’s not that I do not believe that there is a huge threat from Trump supporters. I do. It’s just that I also think there is a bit of progressive hysteria out there (I also have a lot of faith – maybe naively so – in US institutions.) It would be very interesting to compare ‘leftist’ cultists (in the UK those would be Corbynistas) with the right wing ones because we are all susceptible. How does one go about deprogramming cultists? (somewhat of a rhetorical question – unless you are interested in responding).
I am curious about the “gamers” and the “breakers,” as one historian called them – that is the old guard Republicans who took advantage of Trump being in office and those who truly do want to break the system. I wonder which faction is most dangerous to the country.
What do you think will happen in the next 10 days if Trump is not removed? And do you think Mary Trump is doing a good job breaking this all down for the public?
Thanks again, HG.
I meant lop sided HG , a bit aggressive in your response anyway it’s grand hence the reason I don’t like politics or talking about it .
Enough issues to deal with healing from a Narc than dissecting Trump 😕 .No point .
Kiki
Not aggressive at all. I was being accurate.
Unlike The Left, who still believe the ravagings of last summer were peaceful protests, Conservatives were quick to condemn the violence that happened this week. I think they’re less worried by worldwide condemnation and more worried about what ‘s going to happen in The House and Senate in the months to come. It’s a bit frightening.
Hello HG, thank you for doing this article. While media tries to sensationalize the drama for ratings, your no nonsense explanations always have a calming effect on me
I’m responding to the conversation that you and Chi had about cults. The phrase “drinking the kool aid” has been used a lot to describe Trump’s followers lately. The other day I found a documentary on what happened in Jonestown. In one of Jim Jones sermons to his followers he says “I will have my way, or I will tear hell out of everything you’ve built”. Two things came to mind when I heard this. 1) This is exactly what trump is doing before he leaves office and 2) It sounds very familiar, like something I’ve read here. Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.
Missing you and all of your readers. I hope everyone is doing well!
Mercy,
That’s funny – I was rereading “A Very POTUS Narcissist” and made note of this (because it reminded me of KHG and discussions with you) in my Knowing HG files:
“The creation of a world where we are the ultimate controllers of everything around us, is important, and in order to do so, everything must be bent to our will to achieve this and if we cannot bend the world around us to do what we want, we create our own world, which is essentially Sigmund Freud’s extension of the latin quote
‘Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo’
(If I cannot bend the powers above, I will move the Infernal Regions)”
Miss you too, Mercy!
MERCY!
A sign of life, how are you doing sweetie? Is everything ok?
I’ve been so worried.
Something is terribly wrong, I just know it.
It breaks my heart.
Sending you a very big hug 💞
I have to say, and I know this might not be a comment most will want to read, but we are all entitled to our own opinion.
I, along with 74,000,000 other people, thought, President Donald J. Trump, was one of the best President’s in modern times United States of America.
Very much enjoyed his term in office as President. For everything that is said against him (unfairly in my opinion), he did do what he said he was going to do when he got into office. He put America first. For the People of America.
He is the first businessman to run the country and he did a brilliant job. Looking forward, if America got another businessman to run the country it would be a brilliant success.
Watching the news today RE: Trump’s being banned from Twitter social media followed by a hint (speculation at this point) that he may start his own social media platform. I balked with a WTF.
It’s pathetic that he STILL can’t get it together enough to pretend and save himself. Instead, he’s withdrawn completely. Many saying he hasn’t spoke with Veep. Refuses to even make a statement about the tragic deaths. “Regretting” the recorded statement calling for unity. ALL of this reads 100% on point with what HG has taught us about Ns and ULs. Wow.
He can’t admit reality into his worldview. Survival for Trump means never letting anything unseal the knot that narcissistic balloon. Otherwise, he’d deflate entirely, complete with flatulence noises.
I know, I know. He just can’t get out of his own way. Is it because he’s stupid? I mean, there are other famous ULs*, but they seem smarter and savvy.
*HG confirmed ULs.
Hello BC30! Yes- This is all so sad. I have felt sorry for Pence from the beginning. I believe him to be a man who tries to live a moral life… but to find himself in a position of having to “defend” his boss all those times… that had to be a tough task!
Sen. Lisa Murkowski, a Republican from Alaska, is one of many elected officials who do not want to wait the upcoming days for President Trump’s term to end naturally. “I want him to resign,” she has said, “I want him out! He has caused enough damage,” Sen. Murkowski spoke of how Trump has given up on his presidential duties but only wants to stay in office for the title.
From Senator Murkowski regarding President Trump:
“I think he should leave. He said he’s not going to show up… He’s not going to appear at the inauguration. He hasn’t been focused on what is going on with COVID. He’s either been golfing or he’s been inside the Oval Office fuming and throwing every single person who has been loyal and faithful under the bus, starting with the vice president,”
Yep BC30, HG got it right. 💯
The dynamics of the relationship between Trump and Pence will continue to get interesting as Pence works to make his escape while Trump’s fury intensifies. 😳
Well, MP, that farmer was an expert on animals and maybe swamps too.
Haha totally! <3
I think most of the governments in this world are corrupt! Not many Empaths sitting there, if the counties were ruled by Empaths, the world would be a better place. The narcissists are not only in the governments, though, they are mostly at the top of the multinational concerns. Politics are mostly made by the industry lobbies, politicians often are just puppets. Narcissism is on the rise, yes! While the narcs and psychopaths make more money and even more money and don´t give a shit about people, animals, environments and the climate, people are fooled and brainwashed. They don´t even realize that they are being conned. They receive some stupid and cheap excuses, a lot of lies, deception and some easy entertainment.
My opinion is that it always takes two: There is the one who lies, who deflects, who cons and abuses and the other one who does not wake up and does not defend himself or herself. So: People are being conned, their boundaries are pushed further and further, using the salami slice techinque and the people sleep and even enjoy being entertained and enjoy that they don´t have to think critically for themselves. Why was Mr. Dumb, pardon, Trump so successful? Because he conned the people, especially those, who refuse to think critically, who refuse to see the truth: Emotional Thinking! Or just selfishness? Lazyness?
The victims do not question, they do no think critically anymore! No, they are happy that they can buy a pair of shoes for like 5 $ or € or pounds, not questioning where those shoes were made, not WANTING to know that people have been massively expoited, somewhere in Bangladesh, workers didn´t get a decent salary they can make a living on! Yay, shoes for 5 $ or €! Hello?? Those who question are rare and in my country everybody who dares to think critically is immediately labelled as “conspiracy theorist”. Excuse me? What about freedom? What about democracy? Around 20 years ago, I remember, the media published interesting critical reports, well reseached and objective. And now? Opinion makers! Conning the people! Not a single critical report!
It is unbelievable how people are being wind up! Not only by Trump, but also by a lot of governments in this world! Meanwhile, people suffer, people starve, people die, animals are brutally tortured – for YOUR nice leather shoes, YOUR products for a low price, YOUR food! Only very few people want to open their eyes and see the truth! No, they prefer the uncritcal consume, who cares that animals are tortured to death in the meat factores, right?
People are being conned, the piss is taken out of people, exactly by narcissists like Mr. Dumb, excuse me, Trump.
As my main empathic traits are justice and care, so I let you guess what! 😉
I think that if an empath is ruling there wouldn’t be so much division. Narcissists need to triangulate while empaths do not. I used to be so worried that there was going to be competition and jealousy with my two kids when the second one was born. Four years later they are as close as can be. They have fights when it comes to taking turns or sharing but they make up in less than 20 minutes and then they are laughing, complimenting, sharing with and helping each other again like they are the closest best friends. I think there is some similarity with parenting and leading. If the leader doesn’t constantly divide people there is a big chance they people will be able to see the good in each other.
Right! Julius Caesar knew already: “Divide and rule!” 😉
Not all empaths are competent. Some are well-meaning idealists who can’t implement anything. In addition, what if the empaths has to negotiate with a manipulative narc, whether in his/her own government, or a foreign one? The Bible advocated being as innocent as doves–but also as wise as serpents. A healthy dash of cynicism isn’t such a bad thing for a leader.
Completely agree, Violetta
My example is an empathic PM who gave all power to two narc state epidemiologists last year. He was very careful not to criticize the approach, with very few restrictions resulting in many people dying and many in intensive care. The epidemiologist is, despite ppl screaming for his resignation, now working with vaccine scheduling, very slooowlyyy… . The empathic PM has really let a lot of elderly die.
Meanwhile some countries with female narc PMs, have very few corona cases at all. This is also reality.
Violetta, What do you think of a modern day David? I think he has a mixture of enough empathy and narcissism to be clever but not manipulative to the detriment of his country?
Empaths, have different skills, different empathic- and narcissistic traits and different strength in those. Not every Empath can be a leader. People are different 🙂
Hg,
There is talk of Trump being dangerous to and for the country for over the next 2 weeks. Is this true?
Thank you for this article, HG. Almost as soon as the story of the mob run amok on the capital my first thought was eager anticipation for your weigh in. As expected, you were brilliant, thorough and offered an insightful as well as enjoyable read.
I also remembered your earlier article regarding the police officers and the Floyd murder and looking through the lens you provided us, it was easier to see how many of the people participating were narcissists themselves and that while it might have begun with Trump, it was carried on gleefully by other narcissists for their own reasons.
We learn so much from you. Thank you.
You are welcome.
In my opinion most of the people who went down to the capital never thought it would have ended in 5 deaths. If they did most would not have gone. It seems to have been a psyop within a psyop within a psyop. As the president of the United States who has the best Intel how could he not know that antifa was being bused in they got videos of it. Yes absolutely Trump supporters storm that capital there’s certainly was a number of them that were willing to do it feeling like they were not being heard and ripped off. Then there’s always mob mentality. There’s also reports although, might not be true that special forces have Nancy pelosi’s laptops and there were pictures of people sitting in her office. So they had it planned ?we know antifa’s going to get a little rambunctious and Trump supporters are going to follow with mob mentality and we’ll sneak the special forces in so we can get Nancy pelosi’s laptop? Nothing is as it seems. So Trump sends his supporters down there knowing that there’s this plan in place if there was a plan in place or knowing that violence could happen especially with antifa being bused in. Was it just lucky they got Nancy pelosi’s laptop opportunity they couldn’t pass up? I don’t get it my only conclusion is he knew and he didn’t care.probably try to convince himself that they had the right which they did to let their voices be heard but he sent them down. control look I can control 500,000 people. There’s this thing that narcissists do they like to stir the shit. They like to throw a figurative bomb in the middle of the room and then they like to watch people react. Then they want to come in and be the hero and calm everything down. Now that I have distance on it did he really think sending those people down there even if they were completely peaceful was going to change anything that was going to go on inside that building. I keep coming back to that question how did he not know and the only answer I can come up with is He knew there was a good chance of what happened and he didn’t care.
Narcs smearing a narc before he was in office and after. Will be interesting to hear your take on Joe China.
Or writing about narcissism as the article states.
I miss you H.G , I hope you do not mind I shared snippets of this on a local site; to say we know what and who he is…Now do some soul searching if they have a soul and figure out why they would fall prey to the conspiracy theories. I learned from you four years ago, especially after you pulled a twitter 🙂
Hello Yolo, good to see you drop by.
I think you will find that HG is quite dispassionate in his analysis of public figures, whether narc or not. He shows how certain behaviors fit into various categories, and whether there is enough of a pattern to be conclusive. There is neither smearing nor whitewashing: just a statement of the facts.
Correct.
So I heard this story from Patrick Byrne. He’s a computer guy that investigated the Dominion machines and the fraud. So he told this story that he had a meeting in the oval office with Trump I think it was probably a week or two ago. It was Cindy Powell Mike Flynn Patrick Byrne. Let’s call Patrick the “normal”. He said he did not vote for Trump that he was a libertarian but was part of this meeting I guess they would discussing how they were going to deal with voter fraud. Anyway so Patrick is telling a story that they’re in the office and two lawyers from the president’s White House council came in and they were disagreeing with the president to the point that they were yelling at him belittling him and speaking to him like he was a child because they couldn’t get him to do what they wanted. Patrick also said they were very demeaning to Cindy Powell very sexist and if it was corporate America they would have been up on sexual harassment charges. He told the story that they were so disrespectful to the president that they were like an inch or two away from getting b**** slapped from Mike Flynn and also himself. He told the story that President Trump did not react at all He was nothing like what he would have expected him to be I guess maybe thinking of the reputation of your fired. He said he just sat there letting these two lawyers scream and yell and provoke the rest of the people in the meeting. in a way he said he respected the president for keeping his cool but he was also disappointed cuz he couldn’t understand why he was allowing these two lawyers to disrespect him by their behavior. He said President Trump stated that we never had a meeting like that before in the oval office referring to how off the charts it was. Now before I was a student of HG I wouldn’t have had a clue of what was going on. From the normal point of view it looked as if as stated by Patrick the president had lost total control of the meeting. But that is not at all what was going on. President Trump just sat back and watched these two lawyers go off the charts yelling and screaming and provoking everyone in the room He’s just sitting back thinking wow look at the control I have look at these people they’re all bouncing off the walls and it’s all because of me. He just sat there and took it all in fuel fuel fuel. From the normal perspective it did appear like he lost total control but from Trump’s perspective he was in complete control over everyone. If he had shut those two lawyers down and kicked him out of the room that would have diffused most of the craziness and would have cut off or lowered the fuel supply. Very interesting story and you really had to have the narcissistic perspective to understand what was going on there and quite frankly without HG’s explanation I wouldn’t have had a clue.
I watched The Apprentice and it was one of the few TV shows that I liked. I thought it was an interesting concept revolving around business and marketing. I thought Mr. Trump handled himself well in the boardroom. I don’t know if it was scripted or not.
It is television, scripted and edited.
Here’s a friend of mine on the contrast between Trump and someone he considers a real businessman:
I remember when Elizabeth MacDonald was talking about her job interview with Steve Forbes. She said he shared an absolutely dumb idea with her and she told him “with all due respect, your father would have said “what are you thinking.” He hired her and said he was looking for someone who would NOT tell him what he wants to hear. I backed him both times because he is the type of business man and ACTUAL strong personality that Trump wants to be.
Thank you for confirming my suspicions that reality TV contained little reality. I still liked the show.
But of course, much of the output on television is to entertain.
But of course, Sir Tudor! I like you too!
Do I have good taste or bad taste?
Hello NJFilly! I used to watch The Apprentice, too. More so in the beginning, but it was an entertaining program, and Donald was found as very likable by many Americans. I think The Apprentice is what helped Trump get elected, especially within our senior communities, as certain little old ladies seem to love him. (There have always been components of Trump that I have found likable.) Even though Trump has been correctly labeled as “A Lessor by Our Professor,” Trump CAN be quite charming.
However, back in the 80s, when I would see Trump being interviewed regarding his real estate dealings, it was not hard to see the narcissism. Even if folks didn’t know the terminology or understand the pathology behind such, Trump has long been considered a narcissist by many. I remember asking HG about Trump’s narcissism just before HG started his political series. (Inquiring something to the effect of “Trump’s a narcissist, right? If not, he’s missing a good opportunity.”)
What has been so great about HG’s analysis is… though we may have *noticed* Trump’s narcissism for decades, no body has taken the time to break it down with such easy-to-understand detail. Even the professionals who early-on “diagnosed” Trump fom a far, realized they “should only say so much” since Trump had not been personally examined by them, and if he had, then they would be bound by HIPAA, unable to reveal the juicy details that only HG can offer.
So, I tip my hat to you HG, for having the itchy bullocks to boldly share your insight on our most challenging president. 🎩
I am old enough to vividly remember the fiasco of our 2000 election. I remember recounts and hanging chads and court rulings… and a sad bitterness between our two main political parties… though it paled in comparison to this!
As bitter as Gore latter revealed that he was, when the final ruling was decided, he stepped aside and allowed Bush to proceed.
Perhaps I am not the best Narcsite student, but I see that had Trump been a Greater or even an UMR, he would have “graciously” conceded, knowing that strategic move would best benefit his future plans. Trump’s inability to see the bigger picture has caused more chaos than I expected. If he were to have won the election… as he became more comfortable in his demands, and as what little remaining facade faded … well, our country would be facing a category 5 shit storm before his second term ended. I truly believe Trump could have us in another civil war.
From now on, only UMR or Greaters/Ultras should run this country! At least until we can get our empath elected! 🤞🇺🇸 😊
I liked him on The Apprentice, and I agree that he can be likeable and charming. I don’t hate him. I don’t trust him, however.
The people who vandalized the Capitol (if they survived), are being charged with, among other things, defacing monuments–a law strongly urged by Trump in response 5o BLM protests against Confederate monuments.
The irony is priceless.
Violetta, I think that they should be charged. I think regardless of being a Trump supporter or a BLM activist or ANTIFA, they should not be allow to be violent or destroy property.
*allowed
Agreed. I’m just enjoying the idea of Trump’s supporters being hoisted by Trump’s petard.
Not all Trump supporters are being hoisted though. Majority are not being charged for defacing monuments etc. because majority didn’t violate those laws. It doesn’t affect me for example. I’m glad that these laws are there and hopefully the left will also not excuse or gaslight when people on their side violate laws.
1. What Violetta means by Trump´s supporters being hoisted by Trump´s petard is that they will experience a comeuppance because of his behaviour namely
a- The man they support is no longer president , and
b. By supporting a man who behaves in this manner it causes the supporters to be regarded in the same manner, therefore they suffer a downside.
2. It is interesting how often you deploy hefty doses of “Whataboutism” which is deflection from the issue in hand. What about the left when the people on their side violate the laws? First of all, you do not have a left in the United States in terms of any substantial political influence, nothing near it when judged against the political spectrum across the world. Yes, socialism has manifested in the US through various individuals and movements but has never gained any kind of substantial foothold in majority politics. The two major parties are both right wing. Secondly, nobody is saying “the other side” are blameless but we are not discussing “the other side”, we are discussing Trump and his behaviour. That’s like going in front of a judge charged with a serious assault and saying, yes but what about him over there , he killed somebody. Indeed he may have done, it does not make the assault committed by you any less serious.
HG, I totally agree with your assessment on American politics.
Thank you.
Hmmm HG , I can see MPs point though.
Don’t get me wrong but there is a bit of lip sidedness occurring.
I’m not that into politics tbh , can’t stand politicians.
A lot of people are ranting about this New world order .
Not sure what to think 🤔
Kiki
A lot of people thought the sun moved around the earth too.
What is MP´s point you can see? What is lip sidedness, I do not understand that comment.
What are they ranting about this New World order then? What is it that you are not sure what to think about?
HG, when I said the left I was referring to the liberals who minimized or turned a blind eye regarding the riots during the summer where people also got killed violently and properties were destroyed. Violetta brought up the BLM riots and so I talked about it too.
Another thing, a huge number of the population voted for Trump so if that vote causes us all to be lumped in the same manner as Trump then there lies the problem and that is why there will be no reconciliation because the ugliness continues from both sides.
And I stand by what I said that a very small percentage of Trump supporters stormed the capitol so the irony of having those laws urged by Trump in response to the BLM riots does not affect a big majority of the people who voted for him.
And like I said, I do not support all of his actions. I still regard him as the lesser evil and I have the right to that.
Then write liberals, rather than left. Be accurate.
Consistent deflection by many Trump supporters just feeds the Cult view. There’s not much discussion because as soon as any focus is afforded to any of his potentially undesirable actions or anything negative attributed to him it’s always but…or finger pointing at someone else. It comes across a lot of the time as just wanting their choice of him to be vindicated. As though accepting any failings on his part casts a shadow on their personal judgement. But say something good about him? They can stay on that all day. That doesn’t come across as discussion and choice, but of indoctrination. Thus the Cult assertion.
“That’s like going in front of a judge charged with a serious assault and saying, yes but what about him over there , he killed somebody. Indeed he may have done, it does not make the assault committed by you any less serious.”
I never said that storming the Capitol was not bad. I have said it here in different ways that it was sad and I wanted them to be charged. I never said that it was less serious. I said that I’m glad that the laws were established and I hope the laws are enforced whoever violates it.
You misunderstand. You repeatedly engage in “whataboutism” which is a form of deflecting from the seriousness of something by referring to something else. Another example, “Okay, I broke one window BUT he broke two”. Yes, but we are discussing you and the fact YOU broke a window, we will deal with him and his two broken windows in due course, but we are dealing with you. When somebody does this they are deflecting from the seriousness of what they have done because it is unnecessary to refer to the other person, you have done something wrong and that is what is being addressed. I don’t think you realise what it is that you are doing.
Honestly HG, I don’t know if I have unwittingly given an impression that I am tolerating the violence perpetrated by the Trump supporters; that cannot be further from the truth. I was really bothered by all of it. I was really bothered by the images and the violent deaths that occurred. I am in no way condoning it and I really hope that they suffer the legal consequences.
You are misunderstanding the point. Nobody has suggested or stated that you are tolerating the violence by the Trump supporters. I was explaining what Violetta meant by her “petard” remark. To hoist by your own petard basically means get your comeuppance from your own (or own side´s) actions. Hoist was used in life off the ground as in blown up and a petard was a small bomb. The bomb maker blew himself up. I was commenting on your repeated “whataboutisms” which you appear to have missed.
I really like that analogy, HG. That illustrates the flaw of that type of argument very well.
Thank you Fox.
HG, just an honest question if you don’t mind. Is it a “whataboutery” to point out felt or perceived double standards or unfairness? If a scapegoat child for example points out to a parent an inconsistency with the parent’s treatment between the scapegoat and the golden child when the scapegoat feels an unfair treatment does that mean the scapegoat child is manipulating or deflecting? Is it bad to point out injustice or inconsistency? In this case I never said that the Capitol riot is ok or less serious and never inferred that. My point was that I hope the enforcement will be fair and equal regardless of who was the perpetrator.
Unfortunately, you have brought in an incorrect comparison.
1. I was explaining that you deflect form a position through the use of whataboutery with regard to the BEHAVIOUR not the treatment. Your comment references the TREATMENT of that behaviour.
2. “You are accused of a serious assault.” “But what about him, he committed murder.” That is deflecting from what you have done. It is nothing to do with the treatment of that behaviour.
3. “I am grounding you for a week for smashing a window.” “But what about Johnny, he smashed a window and he was not grounded.” That is not deflecting from the behaviour, both individuals committed the same act of smashing a window, the individual is complaining about an inconsistency in the TREATMENT of the same act. That has merit because there is an inconsistency and thus that is not deflecting or manipulative.
In broad terms when a comment is made about Trump or his supporters did this, you invariably respond with but what about BLM they did this or Biden did that. This deflects from the behaviour that is being pointed out. Do you see the difference?
Let’s say five Trump supporters are given life sentences for smashing some windows at the Capitol whereas five BLM protestors received fines for smashing some windows in a government building in last year’s protest, there would be more credibility in asking, why did the Trump supporters receive more serious punishments than the BLM protestors for broadly similar acts of criminal damage (as it would be called in the UK).
Whereas if somebody points out that Trump supporter smashed windows at the Capitol and you respond with “yes but BLM protestors smashed windows too”. This defects from the point about the Trump supporters.
For the avoidance of doubt, I explain this not because I have any partiality with regard to Trump or his supporters, I make the point to help you understand what you keep doing when you may not realise this is something that you are doing because it weakens your argument considerably.I would make the same point if Biden supporters did this and someone responded with but what about what Trump´s supporters did.
NA, Trump supporters are composed of many millions of people from various walks of life and holding various beliefs and values. There are a few off the deep end people but for the most part people have different reasons for voting for him. Just because somebody voted for Trump because of an issue doesn’t mean they support everything that he did or does. A cult is a group of people worshipping someone or something and that is not the case with the people I personally know. We are aware that he is full of flaws however the we are aligned with the positions he held in some of the issues.
I have read about cults and these people usually have to accept and believe everything that their leader tells them. That is not the case here.
HG, First thank you for your responses and explanations. Some points and clarifications I would like to make:
“Then write liberals, rather than left. Be accurate.”
– I didn’t know that there was a difference. I thought the left, liberals, Democrats, Blue are all interchangeable references to the same group of people. I grew up in Asia and didn’t move here until I was 26. I have heard Democratic politicians be referred to as the left in many occasions and thought that it was just normal. Socialism didn’t even dawn on me and I never use that term to refer to that party although I have used the term “socialistic” regarding a few policies and I even think that it is a matter of personal perspective.
-Regarding “to be hoist by Trump’s petard”, I thought the petard Violetta was referring to were the laws that was urged by Trump as a reaction to BLM rioters regarding defacing monuments. And I said that it didn’t affect me because I didn’t break the law and majority of Trump voters/supporters didn’t even go to Washington. I said that I’m glad that the laws are there. I will agree that the phrase “hopefully the left will also not excuse or gaslight when people on their side violate laws” was an offensive statement. It has been a frustration for me to see people who last summer didn’t acknowledge the violence by BLM rioters and has a disproportionate reaction on their social media posts regarding the Capitol storming. I was not referring to Violetta or anybody in the blog but to several people that I know on other social media. It was not meant to minimize the seriousness of what some Trump supporters did, like I said I absolutely think it was horrible and stupid what they did, but I can see how if someone is on the receiving end could feel that their issue is minimized. But hey, maybe some empaths here can put themselves in my shoes and imagine how it feels to see several insulting comments about a political affiliation you are in. Maybe that could make most people feel a little defensive and become offensive. Can that at least make the bad thing that I did be a little bit more understandable since I’m just human?
I understand and can see the comeuppance you have explained. I can see it. It’s open season right now to insult and destroy people who supported Trump. They malign, insult and try to destroy us as much as they can to make sure we will never be able to stand again as a group and to scare away people from even considering ideas from us. I totally understand it but it’s not a big deal to me. I still get to live my own life and anyone who doesn’t like me doesn’t have to be a part of it.
Amazing job HG! Thank you for analyzing this the way only you can do. Trump has been a great example at watching narcissism at work.
You are welcome.
Sitting here in my kitchen, late at night, rereading your post, thinking about the last four stressful years, and it suddenly dawned on me that Trump’s obsession with tweeting was narcissistic triangulation. He used Twitter to pull us all in to create drama/fuel. I’m not saying he shouldn’t have gone on Twitter, he was under siege from the media and the swamp, but it was definitely (I think) deliberate triangulation. Would you agree, HG?
No. His tweeting was hoovering on a large scale, he was hoovering all of his followers by virtue of each tweet that was sent.
Thanks for your insight!
You are welcome.
Hello! I live in a state where some folks stockpile ammo just because it’s payday. They have been doing so for years. If you call my fellow residents to arms, they will show up… ready to fight. Whether they truly believe there was mass election fraud, we cannot have a leader who summons these rebels without a cause… because they are always looking for one!
Now we have LOSS of LIFE as a result. Such a tragic time for our country.
I have been deeply saddened that we have a president who leads with his ego (NPD) instead of with a desire for greater good. I miss having a leader who can calm the masses, not incite them. As more and more realize the narcissism that is behind Trump’s intentions… well, I am still amazed at the supporters who follow so faithfully. A few days ago, I had an otherwise intelligent woman tell me that Biden is responsible for making the coronavirus and the democrats, along with China, have been behind this pandemic. (Pretty sure Biden doesn’t even own a white lab coat, let alone know how to use a microscope.)
Still, I am ready for this change! I feel blessed that Trump’s Twitter account has been suspended. Now we await… just how unhinged will he become?
Hello H.G. What do you think about the relationship between Trump and his wife? It seems that she hardly bears him. His assertion of control over her doesn’t appear to be very effective. Thank You
She is the IPPS victim of a narcissist.
She does seem very protective of Barron, arranging relocation and schools very carefully. It’s the one place where she will visibly dig in her heels. I guess she picks her battles.
I get the sense that it’s often a game of chicken.
I have read some articles written by the woman who worked for her was Melania’s best friend . You claim she is a victim of the narcissist that may well be true but she seems to be very low on the empathy scale. After reading this woman’s account I suspected Melania was a narcissist herself. She was supposedly melania’s best friend and when push came to shove Melania left her out in the cold being accused of financial impropriety and all she had to do advocate for her. However the woman stated she hid behind the office of the first lady claiming the first lady does not get involved in such matters. Of course she was hurt but she felt very used and discarded. Maybe she’s not a narcissist but has very high narcissistic traits however after reading this woman’s account Melania is no victim. In this woman’s experience she claims that everything the Trump’s do is extremely calculated. She was sorry she went to work for Melania however she thought she was going to ride the first lady’s coattails and then found out she got burnt. This is not the first story I’ve heard from people who have worked for the Trumps. Recently Trump’s ex campaign manager was in the news talking and looking like he was a deer in the headlights claiming he felt like he was so close to the Trumps they were family but yet Donald had not spoken to him cuz whatever went down and he was hung out to dry. I believe you call that devalued and discarded.
Her husband is a narcissist, therefore is she not a victim of a narcissist? There is no “claim” about it, she is. I was no commenting on whether she is a narcissist or an empath, I was explaining her position in the fuel matrix.
Oh yeah it get it… Narcissist…. if she is one can also be victims of narcissists …of course… It was just hard for me to picture her a victim.
I think she’s a narc too.
DM headline:
“Melania finally condemns Capitol riot but lashes out at ‘salacious gossip and unwarranted personal attacks on me’ amid claims she held a photo shoot as anarchy unfolded”
Hg,
So, then Melana Trump is not a narcissist?
I hate to think what she could be enduring right now.
Imagine mating with him.
Ew, no…no.
Oof, I just threw up in my mouth a little.
How old is Barron? LOL
She’s a Stepford and probably happy to let him cheat.
I don’t really know a whole lot of Melania, nor do I care that much, especially since my country is in crisis mode between this political instability and the pandemic. But I think people judge Melania based on their own standards. I don’t know anyone from Melania’s country, per se, but I do know women from Russia and Eastern Europe. Here are my thoughts, please correct me if I am wrong.
1. Rusian/Eastern European women love assertive men. Donald Trump is assertive.
2. A “trophy wife” may be looked down on in USA, but it’s entirely normal for women to strive to be a trophy wife over there. Looks are a focus over there.
3. The Russian women I know, can look slutty by American standards, but can be some of the most traditional wives and mothers in the world.
4. Donald Trump may not have a facade, but usually the most dispicable things don’t happen to women until they are pregnant with narcisisst’s child. At least this is what happened to me. I always knew my ex had an ass hole side to him, but the malignant stuff didn’t happen until he knew I was trapped. Funny thing is, he claimed I trapped him.
5. I know somewhat of the contrast Melania is dealing with. Country club people are ok to hang out with. Though snooty, they mostly avoid conflict. I am sure apart from being married to a narcisisst, her life before the white house was probably good. The people in the political scene are garbage. They are all mean to the families of politicians. You get no respect as a politicians girlfriend or wife, and you are always talked badly about.
6. Melania sees Baron as HER son. Even though Trump is too busy for Baron, as long as he is creating and dealing with drama else where, Melania can be the primary parent and influence to Baron. There may not be a reason for her to divorce Trump right now, if she can mitigate her situation enough. Just my thoughts.
ANM You’ve got spot-on observations and she checks off almost every tick in the Stepford article.
https://narcsite.com/2019/07/14/the-stepford-devaluation-7/
BC30, thank you so much for putting that link to the Stepford Devaluation here!! I finally found some information I’ve been looking for. And a whole lot more besides, I can’t thank you enough. This is helping me understand more and more of what happened to me. Fwiw, there’s is a description of Melania in the comments there that I completely agree with, about her sad smile etc. I don’t believe she is one of the ones that can sustain and endure forever though, she’s got some fight in her, I’ve seen it a couple of times. Thank you again, so much! And to NA for asking the question point blank about who can endure.
You are welcome 💞
No thanks.
I insist. Go on, have a good long imagine and I will pass you a chipolata to chew on as you do.
Oh, that’s most generous of you, HG. Would that be served hot or cold?
Burnt by ignited fury
Hmm, I’m so looking to that…..
I’ll have some ice cream afterwards, if you don’t mind…..
I might accept the chipolata.
It’s the permanent retinal scarring I’m loathed to incur.
Oh, you have to say that wouldn’t you, HG?
Deal with it.
I will do…..
“Deal with it” oh god! you lucky girl ASP
This comment was my favorite funny today! Still laughing about it 3 hours later!!!
Fortunately, I think he’s past it. Grabbing is about all he can do to the kitties.
Pfft. I have no pity for Melania in having to mate with him. She might not have had the title of narcissist when she met him, but as you have pointed out – he has no facade so she had a view of what she was getting into and knew that she would be mating with him. She would also know that bearing him an extension of himself would be expected and would help to secure her position, just as many others in those circles have known and done.
I have no issue imagining her mating with him, behind a screen in my mind’s eye, it’s me mating with him where there becomes an issue and I think that’s what HG said. Blech.
Laughing….. oh, AV, did you really IMAGINE….. god, I can’t even type it….. FFS….. I am laughing so much….. brilliant…. I dare you, to ask mother, if she would ‘do it’ with Donald Trump and give her a few 404 moments….. (laughing)…..
Hahaha, well, I was a little caught off guard, okay!! It sent a shiver of horror all up and down, for that split second! I mean, politics aside, he is way too old for me and married to another, both of which, even if I didn’t find him absolutely not attractive, would be enough to cause revulsion at that image. My mother…hm, that could be good for a laugh! I’ll think about it! Hahaha!!!
Are you sure it was shivers of ‘horror’ (laughing). Just tell mother that there is a poll as a means of broaching the subject with her (laughing)……
Haha! Yes, horror, I’m sure! And I’m drawing up some graph charts for the”pole”…🤣🤣🤣
Laughing….. I’m just wondering if that is a typo error, but since it’s you, it’s probably isn’t….. laughing….. do let us know when you’ve discussed the “pole” with mother and how she responded – roll on the 404s…. laughing…..
Good grief. “Poll”.
Either way, my reaction would be like a cat vomiting up a fur ball…..
And then there’s Michelle Obama:
“If I was worried about who liked me and who I thought was cute at your age, I wouldn’t be married to the president of the United States today”
Okay, not the president but married to…so still measuring your value based on your husband, at your age?
HG is she on any of the ready-made lists? If not, I’ll put her on my private list.
NA Whether N or E, I hope she stays with Capitán Clementine because I get a kick out of watching her slap his hand away.
No, she is not.
It doesn’t really matter if the lights are off HG.
Lost your sense of touch then?
Good point.
Although I think she wouldn’t marry him if she didn’t find him attractive. I don’t find Trump attractive but I don’t want to picture myself mating with any man that I am not attracted to anyway. Attraction is not always physical, it could also come from addiction to narcissists. Just my thoughts.
Wouldn’t want those stubby fingers anywhere near me.
What nightmares are made of! Ughhh
Chihuahuamum, right?
That’s what I meant… there’s very few bedrooms I’d like to see what’s going on in, but Donald Trump’s!?
Ahh, no.
You can’t unsee THAT…who wants such images burned into their retinas??
Hahahahaha……. I am glad my retinas, or my mind can actually ‘unsee’ a turkey like Donald…..
Haha Asp Emp – I’m glad for you too!
Hi Whocares…I’m sure nothing is going on in their bedroom. I think it’s purely a contract at this point lol
Chihuahuamum – good point!
She is probably thrilled to be getting the fuck out of Dodge.
Who’s Dodge?
Great analysis HG! While following this particularly the past year i keep being reminded all i’ve learned here and how exact it has been!!
In regards to trump’s type of narcissism i think you’re accurate with him being a lesser. He’s very knee jerk in his actions and lets his emotions govern him without the control of an upper in hiding this for the benefit of the facade.
I’ve also witnessed the salami slicing of societies boundaries. He’s chipped away at the rules of his presidency to the point he has incited a violent coup and yet again will most likely get away with it. It’s become the new norm! 10 or 20 years ago he would’ve never gotten away with all he has bc society had stronger boundaries and narcissism less prevalent. Npd is on the rise. If you’re an empath you’re in the minority. I also think this is why he has such a following bc npd and highly narcissistic people are in higher numbers. This is the new norm. People are more interested in entertainment and shock value than the actual running of a country. They WANT a reality show and to get their moneys worth! It’s a lot like the trauma bonding between a narcissist and victim and how normal and healthy becomes boring and depressing. His followers find biden boring and enjoy the constant drama and craziness the endorphin highs brought on by his delirious antics!
Someone asked me why do you think trumps still throwing rallies after he has already won the election back in 2016 and it was obvious, to keep control over his followers and brainwash gaslight them. Systematic conditioning of his victims. They have been programmed to believe in everything he says as the truth and the whole truth. It was never a political party it was a cult! This is why the republican party is divided bc trump was running a cult under the facade of a political party. He wanted to be a dictator and have what Putin and Kim have which is ultimate power, but what he didn’t realise is America’s democracy is stronger than his narcissistic tactics to overthrow it. Will this be the case 5 or 10 years from now with even more narcissists on the rise? Maybe not.
Trump has been successful bc he mirrors society’s increase in npd and those with highly narcissistic traits.
I do think trump knows he’s a liar and that the election wasn’t rigged but will die denying it bc it sheilds the truth from his subconscious. His protection against facing who he really is which is a very fragile sick individual.
You make some interesting points especially with regard to the running of a cult, his politics were based on the cult of Trump.
He does not know that he is lying, he believes his lies, that is entirely clear.
Ty for your reply HG! He is such a great example of everything you’ve taught us about narcissism!
He might escape Federal charges, but NY State and City are gunning for him, and he can’t get a federal pardon for either. They’ve been wanting to nail the Trumps for decades, and they will throw everything at them–tax evasion, racketeering–whatever they can find. Sadly, Giuliani, who was a pretty good mayor, will go down with them.
Chi mum, not sure how many Trump supporters you personally know but what you described is not accurate regarding a lot of Trump supporters that I know personally. But I do know some that I think are probably narcissists or narcissistic. Both my stepdaughters are Trump supporters and the younger one whom I think is a LMR deeply believes conspiracy theories according to my husband who has also supported Trump but does not have a cult mentality. I have also seen many narcissists on the Democrats side. Mostly MR. I had to leave a message group with some fellow Trump supporters that I didn’t know personally but I was added in the group by an acquaintance. I couldn’t stand when they told me that the lady that was shot was just an actress and it was just fake news and that the video of Trump telling people to go home was just CGI. But most people that I personally know are not like that and are very empathic and voted for him because of issues and policies not because they are brainwashed or they like him as a person.
Hi MP…thank you for your reply. I know there are many that voted for trump bc they agreed with aspects of what he was implementing. Many of those same people abandoned the republican party and are now independants. I stand by what i say most of the diehard trump supporters are a part of a cult and don’t even realise it.
Thank you Chi mum. I understand your perspective.
Sadly, Americans do not understand that Trump is merely a puppet in a larger theater that has nothing but self-serving plans for all of the figureheads in the picture and many others that are not. But, they can still keep thinking that Trump’s behavior is Trump and not the theater because that is how the wool is being pulled over their eyes and letting them allow themselves to be lured into the trap. And it is and will be a trap. They want to believe what they read is true, because it hits all of their emotional thinking, never understanding that they are dealing with professionals not fools, and they know exactly what they’re doing. It’s no secret what buttons rile the masses, notice how they’re always pressed just at specific times. The adorable public doesn’t understand that it isn’t the flux of order/chaos restored or dismantled due to the beloved media and leaders. It’s the manipulation being used against them. Anyone wise enough to the reality is not a fan of any. They will soon find nothing will change. Not really, no matter who the puppets and actors are in the theater.
ALL politicians are narcissists! Especially those that aim to be at the very top.
You never disappoint in your thorough analysis of a subject. A timely and informative read that I enjoyed and leaves me looking forward to the next. Well done.
Can’t wait to read!! Thx HG!
The events in Washington yesterday were both frightening and ridiculous at the same time.
After watching the ‘protestors’ storming the White House and actually marching inside and sitting at desks in offices, I thought to myself, how did it get to this? What did the protestors think they’d achieve in the long run? How did they think they were helping their own situation? What did they think would happen after the chaos? How did they believe their actions were somehow living up to Trump’s statements about ‘law and order’?
HG, how much impact do you think the mainstream media had in this whole debacle?
From experience, a narcissist can’t reach the level of power that Trump reached without enablers, and plenty of them. His ultimate ‘control’ did not happen overnight. It was a systematic progression over many years that culminated in yesterday’s events. He did not get to where he did without flying monkeys, supporters, enablers and yes-men.
There is more to all of this that needs clarification in addition to Trump and his need for control.
Interesting to read, never a disappointment HG.
Looking forward to reading facts on Biden.
I liked Trumps lack of facade tbh , it’s the slimy ones. with the shiny facade that scare and repulse me the most .
Kiki
Indeed and that is why some people voted for him, which is fair enough.
Immoral people know they need a facade. Trump is amoral. How could anybody possibly disapprove of him? Ingrates!
True , he is an ego maniac and shows his proverbial ass , but I imagine there are far worse smirking and lurking in the political shadows .
Kiki
Turtle Boy, definitely.
Trump may be Hitler, but Turtle Boy is Goebbels. He knows he’s a hypocrite.
I agree with Kiki’s sentiments. I actually found it entertaining seeing Trump, an UL Type B, roasting and trolling the slimy, polished mid-range politicians. His tweets and nicknames are narcissistic, but for me personally, they are hilarious. Just as long as he doesn’t attack empaths, I’m okay.
That being said, no one mauls other narcissists better than HG. Excellent analysis as always!
Ted Cruz is one of those slimy and sort-of-polished types, judging by his pattern of behavior. His unctuous facade doesn’t go over very well, but he knows he needs one.
I have called it here before, Ted Cruz, Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi. I agree Mitch McConnell is one too. AOC is a narc too.
Ben Carson and Tulsi Gabbard are empaths.
Those are my guesses.
AOC is not a narc. I’m putting her on my list! I must know.
Love Carson and Gabbard. Nancy Pelosi, to quote a phrase from an old disco song, is “the danger that’s been sent from Hell.”
BC30, I think you should to be sure. For me personally, I have seen many red flags aside from her eyes that get really wild a lot of times but the most recent one when she said, “Is anyone archiving these Trump sycophants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future,” she asked. “I foresee decent probability of many deleted Tweets, writings, photos in the future.” She’s basically telling people to stalk Trump supporters in their social media. I just think that normal people don’t archive other people’s stupid FB posts for future use to incriminate them. I just think her black and white thinking and sometimes pity play, “I don’t even know if I want to be in politics” is a little too much. But of course only HG’s is the official answer and I’m just a student like you.
Pelosi is one. Probably mid-range: higher functioning than Trump, but thinks she’s a wonderful person. Neither has cared about the effects of their actions on US citizens during
a pandemic, economic havoc, or rioting while they’ve been engaged in their power struggles.
Hey MP. See “A Further 50 famous narcissists”. That list includes narcissists from the political field.
Thank you Alex93, I still have a narc hunter consult that I haven’t used. I’m going to use that first I think.
Violetta, my hairdresser does not like Pelosi after the video of Pelosi going to a hair salon that has been in lockdown without a mask.
I think you’re right. A MR, maybe an Upper.
Alex 93, I bought the list, thank you! It seems like there is a flavor of narcissists that I am blinded to.
I will add AOC to my list.
I am glad to hear that you enjoyed the list MP! I was blinded to certain narcs too unfortunately. I was really hoping that #11 wasn’t a narcissist. Nice! I think AOC is one, but only one way to find out I guess lol.
I also think that De Blasio and the Cuomo brothers are narcs.
I suspect she is an empath. She is a lot like me. If she is a N, she plays me on screen. Haha.
With a capital N
To be clear, because this chain is a bit unwieldy, I suspect:
AOC — Empath
Tulsi Gabbard — Narcissist
Politics surely riddled with Ns, but there are some Es. Bernie Sanders and Jimmy Carter are examples, obvious examples.
Thank you! Love it, sharing it. I did think about you being at it, watching the whole thing on CNN. Was already scrolling through here to look for this. 😉
Helpfull to explain to people!
Me too. 😆
Fabulous HG, as always. I am definitely forwarding this one on!
You are welcome.
Glad you wrote a timely article on the latest HG, I was sharing the older articles on Trump to a friend today – so it was nice to pass this one on to her as well!
Thank you for doing so.
Well, thank-you for the fabulous, first-rate material to pass on. I’ve been looking for a way to broach the topic of narcissism with this particular friend of mine and she has political interests, so you handed me the perfect ‘in’.
Expect more bad things to happen here.
That’s what the greeting is inside a birthday card sent by me!
And “C” would think…he read my letter and he is thinking of me…that warms my heart…or is that the blood I feel from falling on my sword?
How badly did the Twitter suspension wound him, HG? I didn’t recognize their action as giving challenge fuel, but you’re the expert. Wounding or challenge fuel?
Wounding. It was an act devoid of fuel.
Did it become challenge fuel when they permanently banned him? Because he tried to tweet from the official POTUS account and the tweets were swiftly deleted.
No, that wounds him.
Ah, yes. I see it now.
I just heard that Barack Obama tweeted something to the effect of , It’s not enough to have Trump removed, he must be destroyed.” Draw your own NPD conclusions on that one.
Narc on Narc action, roll up, roll up, bring your popcorn!
Indeed ! This action flick is just beginning!
I. Can. Not. Wait.
Interesting. This sounds like Obama sees Trump as a threat? Or is it because Obama has been wounded by Trump’s actions and wants revenge?
Obama is a Greater, and I don’t think he sees Trump as much of a threat. I don’t see how Trump’s actions could wound Obama– it’s delicious fuel. Obama watching Trump disintegrating into history as a dishonored flailing buffoon. Obama is a true Legacy.
Obama is so eloquent and dreamy– I read his statement, and my panties fell to the floor:
“Their fantasy narrative has spiraled further and further from reality, and it builds upon years of sown resentments. Now we’re seeing the consequences, whipped up into a violent crescendo.” –Obama
Yum.
Oh BC30, imaging mating with Obama causes the same reaction in me that imaging it with Trump did. But, other than that, my mind went to Obama’s legacy which Trump did a lot to dismantle, though I’m sure that Biden, or Kamala, will put it back asap. The other thing I was thinking was that there are a lot of Trump supporters, to destroy Trump makes it so he cannot organize them for any kind of coo and also it demoralizes them. It will be interesting to watch.
Hahaha I hear you. I still think Obama is dreamy, and view his legacy as far more than policy.
Oops, should have been imagining* lol. No imaging going on!
I believe it is because Obama, the truly evil narcissist, expected (as did most people) that Hillary would continue the policies that were crafted from his twisted ideas of what the USA needed to become. When Trump got elected, Obama’s legacy got derailed, not to mention his grandiose image of himself and his wished-for place in history. Probably for more than a brief second, Obama saw his true self, a kid from a broken home, tossed from one lousy caregiver to another, who managed to pull himself out of his situation because of his innate smarts, drive, and surrogate father figures like crazy Reverend Wright, Bill Ayres, et. al. He also got a lot of steam from Oprah Winfrey without whose help I do not think he would have been elected. So, in short, I believe this is all driven by Obama’s narcissistic need to preserve his false self and defeat the guy who had the gall to try and render it awful and meaningless.
You know, HG, in reference to the above, I have often thought of the story you told in one of your books regarding some king-of-the-hill game you were playing in childhood with a bunch of other kids. You managed to become the leader, and some upstart decided he was going to try and defeat you and it took five thrashings in a bramble bush before this kid finally “got” that he’d be wise to just go back to being one of the fold. To me, Obama began his thrashings in 2016 with all the phony investigations and he will continue them until Trump is “destroyed” or “gets it.
Interesting observations. Typical narcissist Obama, copying my modus operandi.
Who better?
Jared Kushner is a cunt.
Why is Obama a narc? I follow a lot of news and backgrounds. I see hos mistakes and I see where his decisions hurt people, but never seen signs if narcissism. I see it in Clinton. And Trump. And in our dutch Terry Baudet, and maybe even ( cerebral) in our Dutch Prime Minister. But why Obama? And why “ true evil” ? That seems like a contradiction. And simply false. Kushner does not seem very emphatic to me?
Wow Horseyak, I think you nailed it. That was a great explanation and a great use of HG’s childhood story as an illustration.
I was aware that Obama was being infuriated whenever Trump reversed Obama’s policies to the delight of many conservatives who felt that they were being treated as scapegoats by Obama and the left. And the fake Russian collusion accusation where people from the Obama administration went on TV telling people that they have strong evidence that Trump colluded with Russia while they admit under oath in closed door investigations that they really don’t have any evidence. The truth only came out when Rick Grenell was able to release the transcripts of the closed door hearings to the public. Trump didn’t have the chance from the moment he was elected. He actually did a lot of great things and his son in law Jared Kushner whom I think is an empath was able to start the peace process in the MiddleEast. But unfortunately our country is even more divided and by the looks of how the Democrats want to make sure that Trump is destroyed as a person, more bad things might be looming because there really is no reconciliation from both sides. As for me, I will just stay at home and homeschool my kids until this is all over. Such a sad situation for the country.
*It was the HIC that released the transcripts. Schiff was planning to release only partially so that he could control the narrative but Rick Grenell pressured him saying he himself would release all of the transcripts if Schiff doesn’t.
Schiff is another slimy MR narcissist. He makes me imagine a slimy and sneaky lizard with a forked tongue. Such a liar. The transcripts revealed that they had nothing. Now I understand what HG means when he talks about the Narc Club.
Jared Kushner is an empath?!!
HG, He isn’t?? But he seems so nice and he brokered the peace deal in the ME. Also his affect looks like he’s not a dominant person. He’s just always happy and smiling. Hmmm I need to do more research on him again. What am I missing.
I suggest you study the peace deal and ask who benefitted.
I help all of you that does not make me a “nice person”.
MP:
I’ve seen footage of news reporters interviewing people outside the White House after Nixon resigned. Most of the crowd went on about how corrupt he was, what a tyrant, what a crook. One reporter asked a guy who looked like a farmer what he thought, obviously expecting him to be a right-wing Nixon supporter. In a priceless Hee-Haw drawl, the old guy said, “Well, all politicians’re crooks. Don’t know why they’re making such a fuss ’bout this one.”
He may have been the only person on that lawn who had a clue.
Really? I think Jared looks slicker than Rick!
I will admit that I don’t know what is in the peace agreements. I just thought that it was good because it caused Trump to be nominated for Nobel Peace Prize for the Abraham Accord and Netanyahu was so thankful for it. I’m interested in learning about it and will look it up. Thank you HG.
You are welcome MP, always advantageous to have a handle on these things before using them to support your position.
It’s very sad. Aside from all the chaos and the waning of personal spirit ( not to mention these unending fucking lockdowns) I am furious that my hard-earned money for retirement is going to be spent on health care for a new flood of illegal immigrants and stupid gender study nonsense anywhere.
Thank you for your comments on my Obama comments. I’ve never really thought Obama was a nice guy. But, as a country, we were so emotionally blown sideways by the 2008 market crash we welcomed him in as our rescuer ( this scenario sound familiar to any empath?) without really evaluating if he’d be a good match for the nation’s history and values. We allowed Reverend Wright to get brushed aside much like we’re now doing with the Biden family’s influence peddling all over the world.
One thing that’s been so drummed into my head I will never forget it is, much like watching a brilliant magician, NEVER focus on the hand that the narcissist wants you to focus on, the one he’s waving in front of your face. Your attention needs to be on the other hand, the one behind his back, pulling the real trick.
Bullshit Russia collusion, bullshit Michael Flynn charges, phony impeachment, etc., etc., those were carefully designed distractions so that no one would be paying attention to what the Democrats were doing behind everyone’s back to change the voting system as well as covering up the fact that Russia had copies of those thirty thousand emails Hillary thought she had successfully destroyed. On that unsecured server, there were many communications between her and Barack Obama and the deals they had done with Russia and God knows what else.
All this said, crazy me thinks Trump will ultimately win this narc battle, somehow, because his 70 plus million supporters are already finding/creating their own social media networks and are abandoning Twitter and Facebook in droves.
And Trump, the uber narcissist hates to lose.
Interesting observations Horseyak. How do you think they will handle the repeated worldwide condemnation that arose. World leader after world leader showed a consistent disapproval of what occurred.
HG it is a matter of opinion whether the peace deal is good or bad. I was relying on the fact that somebody nominated Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize for it an Netanyahu thinks the peace agreement is a good thing and that even Joe Biden praised the said agreement. I am interested to know learn about the other side of the argument and I am not ashamed for not knowing all sides right away.
Of course Netanyahu thinks the peace deal is a good one!
MP:
Obama got a Nobel when he was just starting his presidency and had no opportunity to do much of anything, good or bad. I doubt the Nobels are significant now, if they ever were.
As for Netanyahu, with friends like Kushner and the Trumps….
Excellent and fascinating analysis, and I still enjoy reading your articles. I look forward to the next POTUS being put under the Tudorscope.
He will be slid under the Tudorscope.
Looking forward to that.
Bravo HG! I’m watching for the audio version! You’ve been extra busy. Are you on lockdown inside Tudor Towers?!
Thank you MB. No, I’m shuttling between Tudor Outpost and the Wasteland.
Fascinating, well done! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Thank you BC30
Nice work HG! How I wish I could get people to understand this! I’m in the US and have tried until I’m blue in the face to get people to understand this behavior. People either don’t know what narcissism is, know, but deny Trump is one, can’t be bothered to read or learn about and the list goes on. Can’t wait to hear more about Biden in the future. One question, do you think Trump’s followers are likely more narcissistic or empathic? Thanks for getting this posted so quickly! I knew it was coming.
Your frustration is shared by others. His supporters will be a mixture, just like Biden´s supporters. It is the more vocal ones which contain the narcissists and the narcissistic, e.g. some of the proponents of conspiracy theories that were at the vanguard of the Capitol storming.
Apparently, I’m an empath.
Tammy, I have been an opinionated Trump supporter but my Empath Detector result said that I’m an Empath. I don’t know what to say about the recent events though. It’s very sad that people died. And I still don’t like Biden and Kamala. However, after learning more, I think that they didn’t cheat the elections and it’s sad that people died because of the elections.
Looking forward to HG’s take on Biden but it might offend a lot of people because many believe that he is empathic.
I’d prefer Biden at the moment, because he seems slightly better connected with reality, but if HG says he’s narcy, he’s narcy. At least he’s a different flavor.
Some DM readers gloated there wouldn’t be a Republican administration for the next 20 years, but they claimed something similar when Nixon resigned. After 4 years of Carter, Reagan was overwhelmingly preferred at the polls, and pasted 2 terms. The US seems to swing back and forth in politics.
The DM really is not anything remotely close to quality journalism and that does tend to show in the comment say the readers!
I like the low-browness of it. It’s milk-in-first journalism with egg-cozies. Also, no paywall.
In any case, I regularly refer DM readers to specific articles on narcsite, so they have the opportunity to acquire real knowledge, if they wish. I’ve had more than a few hollabacks from readers who say things like “spot on” or just thanks for the referral.
I don´t! Even though I do not support Trump at all, pretty much the exact opposite 😉 I would say that 99 % of the politicians aren´t Empaths and 99,9 % are corrupt, no matter which side they´re on. Many people who share my views are fake Empaths and as activist I am especially endangered! There are dozens of middle mid rangers on “my side” who think they care, who do what I do only for their facade. Looks good to care for people, animals, the climate and the enviornment, doesn´t it? 😉 Especially for a middle mid ranger 😉
I agree with your post leelasfuelstinks. I personally know a female middle mid range narc that is liberal leaning that has the fake kindness and false angel image. There are plenty of left/liberal leaning empaths who mean well and genuinely care about the issues that are important to them. I am a right leaning empath and I have a family member who is a male UL Type B police officer whose a Trump supporter. He brags, boasts, and bullies people just like POTUS 45. Just goes to show empaths & narcs all have different political perspectives as HG has mentioned. We as empaths all have different political opinions, but we should all stick together and support one another.
Oh yes, Alex! We MUST stick together! think whether an Empath is on the left or right side or center could depend on the individual empathic traits, how you grew up and which values you personally cherish most! With main empathic traits justice and care, being left is almost a knee-jerk reaction 😀 😉
Definitely Leela! Totally agree 🙂
MP,
Did you see Jim Carrey’s first appearance on Saturday Night Live as Biden? I think they pretty much presented that Biden is a covert narcisisst/midrange narcissist. I loved the internal dialogue where he was trying to present a false persona for the camera. It was great. I also don’t like Biden, nor Kamala Harris.
I know this is not a popular opinion for Democrats, but I would like to see Rahm Emanuel, Former White House Chief of Staff for Obama, and Former Mayor of Chicago run for President. Biden is trying to get him join his administration, but I think Emanuel is going to pass if they offer him a good enough position.
My second choice is a complete no body. We need someone like JFK again. Someone sharp, young, sexy, argumentive- but suave, young enough that he doesn’t have any dirt from his past to pull up, and father to cute young children – adult children of politicians keep becoming a theme during campaigns and I am sick of it and how it sidetracks the real matters.
Hello Anm,
No I haven’t seen Jim Carrey’s impersonation of Biden. I’m sure that it’s funny. I just can’t get over what I remember Carrey doing to his former girlfriend that committed suicide. The screenshots of his abusive text messages to her is something that cannot make me tolerate him anymore. I haven’t watched any of his movies since then except for Sonic because my kids really wanted to see it but I didn’t pay attention to him. He’s a MR.
I’m more leaning towards the conservative side so I think we need someone like Reagan but another JFK probably wouldn’t hurt. Somehow I have an idea that Obama was going to be like JFK so I voted for him the first time but I didn’t like Obama’s performance and the way he divided people. I don’t know how different or similar JFK was.
* somehow I had an idea…
“I just can’t get over what I remember Carrey doing to his former girlfriend that committed suicide. The screenshots of his abusive text messages to her is something that cannot make me tolerate him anymore.”
Oh yes I remember. That guy is a piece of work, a dangerous one.
Absolutely, I didn’t even know about narcissism yet or fully understood how an abusive romantic dynamic work when
when I learned about Jim Carrey’s abuse to her and saw the screenshots of his text messages. I couldn’t believe the people defending him still and attacking his former girlfriend that committed suicide. I felt so bad for her just reading the text messages and couldn’t understand why those people do not even feel bad for her and even blamed and accused her when the evidence was right there in front of them. I thought he totally treated her like garbage and she believed it.
If my friends are liberal, they can accept that Trump is a narcissist. If they’re conservative, they can accept that Pelosi is one. What I’m finding, however, is a reluctance to acknowledge that narcissism knows no party, gender, ethnicity, or religion; you will find narcs anywhere that fuel is within reach.
I agree with your observation, Violetta!
HG, I am not normally interested in the likes of Donald Duck, ehem, typo error, Trump. I read your article with awe because of the in-depth detail you have provided. Donald Trump is finished, done and dusted.
I liked the last paragraph, where Joe will not escape the ‘Tudorscope’. Look out, Joe, HG will ‘maul’ you if you fk up…….
I’ve seen a couple of YouTube videos in relation to Biden’s ‘slowing’ down….. had a giggle at this one….