HG Interview : Dazed But Not Confused



Listen to my recent interview with Doug of Dazed But Not Confused, following on from the interview last November.

140 thoughts on “HG Interview : Dazed But Not Confused

  1. Asp Emp says:

    To you : HG & Doug, apologies for the deviation of conversation from what is a brilliant interview. I just wanted to say this. I look forward to future interviews that are contributing to a very valuable resource for those that will benefit in the years ahead.

  2. Asp Emp says:

    HG, I came across a very short yet interesting YT video which did actually make me think.

    It was something about ‘Dark Empaths’ – those who have no emotional empathy yet they possess cognitive empathy. These ’empaths’ also were considered to possess ‘The Dark Triad’ personality traits.

    After seeing this video, I understood entirely the concept of ‘Dark Angel’.

    And there is a distinct difference in between ‘narcissist’ and ‘narcissistic’. I can understand why some people can get the confusion and using the word ‘narcissist’ rather than ‘narcissistic’.

    This video also made me think about myself – I know I am more of a ‘Light Angel’ than a ‘Dark Angel’. It is also an ‘insight’ (on my part) in relation to ‘being painted white or black’ in the perception of a narcissist.

    So, in my view, you, HG, are a ‘Dark Angel’.

    1. BC30 says:

      @Asp I am a fan of that YT channel. Your stripper story made me LOL because I recall taking one of my straight male friends who was from a very conservative country to a gay stripper bar. I used to frequent gay bars a lot back in the day, so we had front row seats. 😆 He is really tall, so all the goodies were swinging around at his face. Thanks for the memories!

      1. Asp Emp says:

        Laughing…… you taking someone from a ‘conservative’ country to a strip bar?! Ah, bless him…… in front of his face too – either he had nightmares or wet dreams as a result of that experience….. oh, dearie me! It’s really interesting that I recall things from a long time ago when I read something on another comment……

        I am not necessarily a fan of that YT channel, I just came across it by accident.

  3. Leigh says:

    Mr. Tudor, great interview!

    Just once I’d like to say “F$%K the Narcissist”

    I’m just curious. Is Doug gay? He seemed to be hot for you. Who can blame him though?!?!

    1. HG Tudor says:

      I have no idea whether Doug is gay or not. Of course he is hot for me, I am HG Tudor.

  4. Witch says:

    I’ve learnt that HG knows a lot about dungeons and dragons (do you have a gaming group?)

    HG assassinates terrorists

    And HG’s laugh still scares me

    1. A Victor says:

      Hm, my dad played Dungeons and Dragons all. the. time. He LOVED it. I’m waiting on his NDC, maybe this little tidbit is telling…

      Thanks to HG for assassinating terrorists.

      And I love his laugh. On IG I’ve gone back twice to that sweet interaction between he and The Shieldmaiden where she says “I’ve neva, eva done this befoa…” and he laughs, it’s so sweet. It was a boring day at work. Haha.

      1. Witch says:

        @A victor

        I recently bought a board game because of lockdown restrictions and looked into D&D very briefly and saw that you play without a board? And I was already lost. But there’s a board game called planet apocalypse which I want when I next get paid.

        The laugh scares me because it’s cartoonish (I don’t know if that’s the right word but it sounds a bit fake and forced) and sounds like the laugh Count Dracula would have like mwah mwah mwah before he bites you.

        The Instagram is not for me because it makes me feel like a voyeuristic pervert looking at images that SM doesn’t know is being seen in this context. And it doesn’t teach me anything more about narcissism apart from that violation of boundary already mentioned. I’ve learnt more about HG through the exchanges that take place here

        1. A Victor says:

          Yes, D&D is both a board game, which my dad did not play, and a computer game, which he was obsessed with, for years. I never saw the draw, I loved Ms Pacman, haha! I always felt bad for her when she got eaten by the ghosts! I will check Planet Apocalypse out, my son might play that with me.

          The laugh does sound fake, it’s coming from a narcissist so it probably is! And, yes, I can understand the Count Dracula aspect too! I just like the sound, the depth. I like deep voices I guess.

          And, I understand the IG thing, it makes me a bit sick, except for that one and the one of him at the Depeche Mode concert, they are awesome, I can relate to that one. But, in general, it makes me very sad and I wish I would not have looked at it. I am only on IG for one friend, who is ironically living in the UK at the moment, it is the most efficient way to keep in contact with her. If she comes stateside again, I will get rid of it altogether. I agree about the learning also, here is where most of mine has happened for sure.

          1. HG Tudor says:

            D&D isn’t a broad game, it is a role playing game. You can use floor plans and miniatures but it is not a board game per se. Thought I would explain this to avoid you incurring the wrath of the Nerd Horde!

          2. A Victor says:

            Oh, thank you!! I appreciate the explanation and, this goes to show how not into it I am. It is a computer game though, correct? That’s where he played it, I’m certain it was that…

          3. Sweetest Perfection says:

            Role gaming. I used to transfer the board gaming to real life, playing pranks like putting buckets of paint in the shower for enemies or things like that… ahhhh, the good times! Yes you need to be a little bit of a nerd. Or much. Who gives a fuck.

          4. njfilly says:

            My brother was into D&D. That’s what he did mostly, cloistered in his bedroom on the internet while I was out with friends.

          5. HG Tudor says:

            I think he was more into W&W.

          6. njfilly says:

            What is W&W?

            Yes, you have a dash of inner nerd and I like it!!

          7. HG Tudor says:

            Watching and Wanking.

          8. njfilly says:

            Oh? I take it you know each other from the game, then, and played together often. As I recall he subdued you in battle.

          9. HG Tudor says:

            You are drunk. Or high. Again.

          10. njfilly says:

            HA HA!

            Well, you know…..tea.

            Obviously I have revealed too much about myself on this blog. (Notice my laughing is in capitals because you are so fucking funny)

          11. Asp Emp says:

            Yeah, I revealed so much about myself on this blog and all……. so fkg what?!

            God! I just remembered…… I dunno why – FFS. I was 18 and invited and attended a ‘hen party’ or someone’s 18th – whatever……. FFS…… this stripper literally dunked his dick into someone’s gin and tonic……. I sat there (next to the ‘victim’) laughing and very very shocked…… seriously, I would NOT have drunk that…… thank fk it was not my glass (it was a G&T)….. I would have gone fkg ape-shit at him….. I don’t know if I am more dangerous now compared to when I was 18…… (laughing)…..

          12. njfilly says:

            I’m not a big fan of male strippers. The man was dancing naked? I have no desire to see a man dancing naked. What he did was disgusting.

          13. Asp Emp says:

            Yes, he was. He was really swinging it around as well. I was 18 & naive. Hence my being shocked. I don’t think (maybe, again, assuming incorrectly!) – it would be allowed today, however, that was the only one time I ever came across this ‘activity’. It was not a strip club – just a community hall hired for someone else’s celebration – there were women of all ages (yes, including the grannies!) ……. I had completely forgotten about this ‘episode’ until a couple days ago…….

          14. njfilly says:

            Interesting. I don’t understand the appeal. It doesn’t turn me on to watch a man dance, naked or otherwise. It does turn me on to dance for a man.

            I did once go to Chippendales with some friends a long time ago. They were all excited and wanted to go, so I just went along for the party. They were good looking muscular men but I didn’t enjoy them dancing for me. I don’t really understand the point.

          15. Asp Emp says:

            Your last sentence made me laugh.

            Dancing is something I do enjoy and I tend to be better at it after a few drinks, for some reason or another. There is something erotic in dancing with a guy. It usually takes two to tango…..

          16. njfilly says:

            Oh, yes, I agree. Dancing with a guy can be very erotic. Also, for me, dancing for a guy. Watching a guy dance, not so much.

          17. Sweetest Perfection says:

            That sounds like a real geek, HG!

          18. HG Tudor says:

            No geek, just a dash of inner nerd.

          19. A Victor says:

            The summer narc was a huge nerd, self proclaimed but also, he really was. I ended up asking him where to meet nerds, they are kind of fun! If they’re not a narcissist.

          20. Witch says:

            HG be honest … you are the nerd horde
            Now we know you’re passionate about starwars and D&D

          21. HG Tudor says:

            I am relaxed with having a dash of inner nerd.

          22. A Victor says:

            If HG is the nerd horde, I am especially grateful that he informed me about D&D.

          23. Witch says:

            A dash?
            Go big or go home, now get yourself a cape for your D&D game nights

          24. HG Tudor says:

            AD&D if you please.

            I am the Dungeon Master. Obviously.

          25. Witch says:

            @A victor
            In planet apocalypse you have a board and avatars that you fight demons with – it’s kind of expensive so it is a rip off but my inner goth can’t say no.

          26. A Victor says:

            My son would love it. But probably not with me, probably with his friends. Ha, I used to be able to out run, out catch, out throw, out climb, beat him at every game (giggle, I show no mercy!) etc, but now, he’s beyond me, in his own mind anyway, haha!!

          27. Leigh says:

            AV, its not a computer game. Its role playing game. You can play it anywhere. However, you can play it on the computer with players all over the world. My husband played it in the 80s and it wasn’t on a computer or as a board game. He just played it with his buddies. They got together once a week and played. If I remember correctly, his character was an Elf named Gandolf. By the way, I don’t know if this is relevant or not, my husband is a narcissist.

          28. A Victor says:

            Well, my dad was full on nerd and I don’t know if he was a narcissist or not, but he played some game online for years. If it wasn’t this one, I’ll likely never know what it was, thanks all for the info, I have learned much! Haha, about D&D!

          29. Sweetest Perfection says:

            I am the fucking master(ess) of pinball. Recently we have been playing pinball arcade on Apple. I have no rival. I was good on the real, vintage one, but this is so much better, has anyone tried?

          30. Witch says:

            Oh my bad
            ADVANCED D&D
            ADVANCED! Remember that folks – not the childish ish the real advanced experience!

            And lemme guess, you always have to be dungeon master, you dont take it in turns? The person who complains gets pushed into nettles

          31. HG Tudor says:

            Nobody ever complained because I was the best and they asked me to do it permanently because the world I created was the most imaginative, compelling and exciting.

          32. A Victor says:

            Oh no, I literally had a nightmare about falling into nettles a couple nights ago. It was awful. Pretty sure it stems from something I heard here…

          33. Witch says:

            HG you love it!
            I’m sure you already have a costume

          34. HG Tudor says:

            I have plenty of masks if that is what you mean.

          35. A Victor says:

            Hi Asp Emp, back when my ex and I were newly dating he was the best man in a wedding so I was invited to the events. The bachelorette party had a male stripper. There were probably at least a hundred women at this thing. I have met the bride, literally no one else. This dumb stripper comes up behind me during his dance, I wasn’t even watching him, blech, and all of a sudden there’s a limp…particular laying on my shoulder!!! In a huge group of women I don’t know! It was so embarrassing, I had no idea what to do, what was expected, the other women didn’t know how to respond, not knowing me, so awkward, and he left it there for at least a minute. Ugh, never again. So disgusting. That’s my stripper story. Oh no, I have another, once a friend and I walked into an establishment to use the restroom and when we came out realized all the people were staring at us and all were a bunch of old men. Then we noticed the dancer on the table, we got out of there in a hurry! Wonder how many of those old guys were narcs.

          36. Asp Emp says:

            AV, laughing…… laughing…… at your words “all of a sudden there’s a limp…particular laying on my shoulder!!!”. Laughing….. “he left it there for at least a minute”…… laughing……

            If that had happened to me and because it was in a public place, without any ‘notification’ or forewarning and coming from a complete stranger – it would have been been a very big and loud “Fk Off!” from me…… OMG, I can imagine how you and the other women felt……. sheeeet.

            Sorry, AV, I found it really hilarious but it is obviously not a pleasant experience. I am still laughing – totally inappropriately, I apologise…..

          37. A Victor says:

            Asp Emp, no, it was totally funny! Just not until I got out of that room! Gross at the same time, I wanted to smack it really hard! Hahaha! Don’t apologize! Laughing!!

          38. Asp Emp says:

            AV, do you realise, smacking a limp dick while it is on your shoulder is not the answer? I am laughing, again. It’s taking me longer to type this response because I am laughing too much….

          39. A Victor says:

            Well, had I, think he would’ve removed it, haha. I was kind of frozen in shock.

          40. njfilly says:

            A Victor:

            Another disgusting story about the behavior of a male stripper. He’s lucky he did not do that to me.

            I must assume, now, that the two male strippers who acted very inappropriately were narcissists. It’s one thing to dance, and even dance naked, but quite another to put your limp dick on a woman’s shoulder or in her drink.

          41. Asp Emp says:

            NJF “He’s lucky he did not do that to me”…. laughing……

            Laughing, again….. “It’s one thing to dance, and even dance naked, but quite another to put your limp dick on a woman’s shoulder or in her drink”….. brilliant….. laughing…..

          42. A Victor says:

            njfilly, I have wondered many times what sort of person does such a thing. I apologize for the disgusting aspect, HG can delete as he sees fit. I don’t share that story except in very specific circumstances and never before on a public forum.

          43. A Victor says:

            Also njfilly, he did have a speedo type thing on. I should’ve indicated that.

          44. Asp Emp says:

            Ah, now, AV, you tell us 😉

          45. A Victor says:

            Yes Asp Emp, I apologize, it was still gross though. And embarrassing.

  5. lickemtomorrow says:

    My ears pricked up at the mention of the “mini bar” 😛 I could use a drink!

    Always enjoy listening to your interviews, HG, and Doug asks some very insightful questions. I never thought much about empaths or narcissists throwing themselves at you but it’s a given that is going to happen 🙂 I’m always glad I’ve done the EDT because otherwise I’d be sat here wondering if I was a Mid Range narcissist! Sometimes that one sails a little too close to home. What if someone did the EDT and you had to tell them they are a narcissist?! Has that ever happened?

    Also, since Doug brought up the issue of addiction to the narcissist, how is it that people who haven’t had narcissistic parents still become addicted? Is it simply because they are empathic that the narcissist is able to ensnare them? And is that how they then go on to develop their addiction? Making all empaths vulnerable to becoming addicted to the narcissist?

    And many people think your voice is addictive (which it is), but I love your laugh. I always think we are spoiled when we get to hear you laugh out loud. And it always makes me smile 🙂

    Thanks for providing more excellent insight for free, HG. Thanks to Doug for the interview, too.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      You are welcome, I am pleased you enjoyed it.

      1. lickemtomorrow says:

        I did enjoy it 🙂

        Now I just have to work out how to get my questions answered 😉

        Any plans for another Q&A sensei?

        1. HG Tudor says:

          Possibly towards Spring time, I have a lot going on at the current time.

          1. lickemtomorrow says:

            Thank you for the response, HG. I understand.

      2. Bubbles 🍾 says:

        Dear Mr Tudor,
        Finally managed to listen to your interview
        Very interesting and most informative
        I know someone who was involved in Scientology, totally messed up, even today!
        Thank you, I really enjoyed it
        Luv Bubbles xx 😘

  6. lindseymarie says:

    Great interview! I found it interesting that you said a lot of empaths wish it were different for you, wish you could love and experience all these emotions that we do. I’ve felt that way too, felt sad for you, although logically I know you are just fine with who you are. Was good to hear you explain that you can’t miss what you never had.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Thank you, I am pleased you found the interview interesting.

      1. Whitney says:

        HG the God, I don’t feel sad for who you are. You’re a warrior!

        1. A Victor says:

          Hi Whitney, this is an interesting thing, isn’t it? We sometimes feel sad for narcissists not to feel what we feel because we do know what they’re missing. But, they are settled and, as you point out, they are warriors in a way too, efficient and good at what they do. So, it’s hard to feel too sad. I like your thinking, celebrate who they are and what they accomplish, or at least HG! But, just GOSO if we find we’re around one…:)

  7. Asp Emp says:

    HG Interview : Dazed But Not Confused. One I love HG. Thank you for doing this second part of the ‘series’ as I understand there will be a Part 3….

  8. GB says:

    This is amazing! Love his excitement and admiration for you and your work. 🖤 you are just the best thing that ever happen in our lives!!!!!

    1. HG Tudor says:

      I cannot disagree.

  9. A Victor says:

    Asp Emp, I can’t wait to watch this! The first one was very interesting and now your comment has me really looking forward to it! I think Covid has been good for me in the same way, probably many actually.

    1. Asp Emp says:

      Hey there AV. Yes, I think these interview videos are actually very good and I reckon Doug really likes HG’s candid explanations – don’t we all? The part about covid got my back up – not because of HG’s response but because of his explanations that got my ‘inner narcissistic traits out’ over these “Law-abiding” citizens that are given the ‘seats of power’ (the politicians, etc). And then watching the Daily Coronavirus Update and seeing Matt Handoncock talking bollocks – I mean seriously, they are now blaming the manufacturers for the “slow” production of the vaccine…… WTF next, eh?! Blame-shifting, deflection, rejecting accountability…… and do you know what?! The NHS / GPs have been talking about ‘ivermectin’ for ages – (I may have spelt it wrong) yet I have never heard any of the so-called politicians mention it.

      Anyway, it was good to read your comment AV. Thank you.

      1. A Victor says:

        I take it your a bit over covid? I can’t watch the video until the weekend, ugh.

        1. Asp Emp says:

          Yeah, my ranting about how the UK political “leaders” are “dealing” with covid – they knew yet still dragged their knuckles on the ground to actually start “doing” anything…. they even issued Vitamin D tablets too late in the year – it takes a while for the body to process & ‘allocate’ the vitamin within – for it to be effective, it should be started around autumn time. No doubt you’ll comment on the video when you have seen it.

  10. Brain says:

    Omg! This is one of the best video you had, HG! I wish you had podcast and so I have a daily dose of enlightenment. It is a light hearted interview despite what I am battling with now a narc soon to be ex-spouse. I had a good laugh and forgotten everything in the entire period of this interview.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      I am pleased you enjoyed it.

  11. FoolMe1Time says:

    Wow HG! I believe I like this interview better then the last one. You just keep getting better and better. Doug being in awe of you definitely comes through in this interview, he can hardly contain his enthusiasm. Thank you HG, you always keep me learning.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      You are welcome.

  12. Asp Emp says:

    I read this video, after having seen the first one. Commenting on the first ‘interview’ with Doug, probably was my longest comment on this blog. Something that Doug said, in relation to had the ‘education’ on narcissism been made available when he was younger, it would have saved a lot of trauma and heartache – no doubt, there has been many, many others who have stated similar words.

    Doug saying that people have a weakness where they have a ‘preoccupation’ with the past – I stopped the video at this point and made a note of these words. I thought about this and agreed. And I also thought that there are some people who will have suffered such traumas in their life-time because of entanglements with narcissists (especially if the people are ACONs). There will be people who have developed such ‘complex personalities’ as a result of living such lives – in some way, that can never be ‘repaired’, yet, depending on the wiring of the individual’s brain (and emotions – the neural pathways) – some of the ‘traumas’ can be reviewed and looked into, in order to understand the affects of the past and in some way, leading to the ‘creation’ of the individual’s ‘personality traits’.

    The human psyche is such a difficult and big thing for scientists to be able to even to comprehend, never mind to be able to get a ‘grasp’ of. HG’s intelligence, interest and observation skills have enabled him to achieve what scientists have been unable to achieve. Some scientists tend to talk in a gobbledegook language where a lay-person cannot understand because of the tendency to use technical jargon that is basically not in the lay-person’s language of understanding. HG delivers his education and imparts his knowledge in ways that any lay-person can understand.

    I liked the wording “global gaslight”.

    In where it is said that the world leaders narcissists are not working in tandem due to threats to loss of control etc made me think back to occasions where I have stated (on this blog) the importance and relevance of having Laws and Policies in place. In relation to the global covid impacting and forcing the need to have safety guidelines in place – there are quite a number of political narcissists using and abusing the very “system” that they, themselves were involved in making the decisions of – stay home, stay local etc……. Why The Fk was Boris Johnson of all people – the UK’s PM (my ar*e) observed riding his bicycle 7 miles away from his home in London, of all places…… no boundaries, sense of entitlement – because he is a narcissist but he also did it because he is the ‘UK’s Prime Minister’, so he can do what he wants but breaking the Law at the same time. Bumbling Jidiot!

    HG’s words “cannot get rid of the addiction but can manage it” is something I have noted down, for myself. Maybe I should get some post-it notes and stick these words up around the house…..

    For me, to read this interview, reminded me of why it is important to learn about narcissism and understand the impacts it has on everyone concerned. It is almost likened to being dunked in ice cold water. Again. Because of the way I have been “created” as a person, I find myself dipping in and out of ET and ‘slamming’ the doors shut on my ‘softer’ side. What I realise, and what is more important for me, is the fact I now, am aware of when I am doing this ‘process’ of ‘slamming’ my doors shut. I am actually conscious that I do this, whereas in the past, I was not aware that this is something I do. It also bothers me that I do this. Because it reminds me of why I do it. I don’t have a ‘preoccupation’ of my past in the logical sense (LT) yet I wonder if it will always be present in the sense of ET. Each individual will have a different “response” (perspective) where their own LT / ET are concerned.

    In my view, this covid-19 s**t ‘situation’ is a blessing – as it forces me to stay home, stay safe and read, think and process the information about narcissism. At the same time, this covid-19 s**t ‘situation is also a curse for me, as I am being forced not to ‘socialise’ with others and effectively, not being able to interact with another human being. I am permitted to form a support bubble yet the majority of people I know (and trust) are in families. There is one friend who lives on her own but alas she is 280 miles away in north London. So what is the answer? Slowly, but surely and almost silently……. morph into something that I am not.

  13. fox says:

    That was an excellent interview. I loved the lion analogy! I agree that the subject of narcissism is possibly the most important topic on the planet. The more I have learned here, the more I realize just how much it affects not just romantic and familial relationships, but everything about the world we live in. It is essential knowledge to obtain and I’m so happy to have learned from HG, the Ultra! You really have changed my whole world view and I am thankful.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Thank you Fox.

  14. Another Cat says:

    Just wow.

    Again I grow wiser and wiser by your work. This time by listening to your talk with friendly thoughtful Doug.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      I am pleased you found it useful.

  15. fox says:

    What a wonderful thing to wake up to, a new HG interview!!!

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Nearly as good as waking up next to me.

      1. alexissmith2016 says:

        I think I’d actually wet the bed if that happened! And not in a good way!

        1. HG Tudor says:

          I had heard your favourite films are Squirty Dancing and The Squirt Locker.

          1. alexissmith2016 says:

            Hahahah good one dad

          2. HG Tudor says:

            One day I will appear behind you and whisper “Daddy’s here”.

          3. A Victor says:

            Oh no, alexssmith, this is where I’d pee myself! I’m glad for you that they don’t often carry out threats!

          4. HG Tudor says:

            It wasn’t a threat.

          5. lickemtomorrow says:

            Alexis will definitely “squirt” when that happens 😛

          6. HG Tudor says:

            It might turn into “Squirty Days of Shite”.

          7. Shit no, shit no, shit no!

          8. lickemtomorrow says:

            Just as HG predicted 😉

          9. A Victor says:

            Alexissmith, I’m so sorry! How are you at hide and seek?! 🤣

          10. alexissmith2016 says:

            Don’t worry AV, HG would never be able to find me x

          11. A Victor says:

            Haha, good to know!

          12. A Victor says:

            I knew there was a reason to be concerned by a narcissist’s threats, can’t tell when they mean it!! Hahaha!

          13. alexissmith2016 says:

            Hahahahah it’s true! Well a greater/ultra doesn’t usually make them. They want to take you by surprise. But I imagine when they do they truly mean it.

          14. A Victor says:

            Oh, right, I forgot that about the Greaters/Ultra! Good luck then…;)

          15. alexissmith2016 says:

            Hahahha cheers AV

          16. alexissmith2016 says:

            Love you though x

          17. Alexissmith2016 says:

            AV, he’s an ultra!!

            ‘It wasn’t a threat’, scary thing is I actually genuinely believe you.

            That’s my husband coming with me everywhere I go, even if it’s only to the toilet.

        2. njfilly says:

          Oh god!! So funny!

          1. Another Cat says:

            “HA HA!

            Well, you know…..tea.”

            Strange brew.

          2. njfilly says:

            “Girl, what’s inside of you”.

          3. Another Cat says:

            ““Girl, what’s inside of you”.”

            One of the most beautiful sounding tunes I ever heard.

            Thanks for acknowledging Eric Clapton, Njfilly!

        3. A Victor says:

          Alexssmith, that is the perfect response, thank you, laughing…

      2. fox says:

        Thankfully, I will never know what I’m missing, hahaha!

  16. December Infinity says:

    I heard the interview yesterday afternoon. It was very interesting. Lots of good questions were asked which HG gracefully answered. Let’s hope for a part 3!

  17. Super says:

    Enjoyed this.

    I’m left questioning the narc/empath dynamic. Is the narc the shark? I mean it is the narc with the need. And need is usually a weakness.

    Does the empath have a need for the narc outside of the narc? Once encountered, the addiction gets triggered – I agree – and then perhaps the empath does need the narc, for a time, as much as the narc needs the empath.

    But just going about one’s business – it is the narc with the weakness, no? It is the narc who must refuel, no? Do empaths need to “empathize” as much as narcs need to re-fuel?

    From my experience, the narc’s strength (lets call it “sharkness”) lies in the generic. They can get fuel anywhere. An empath once hooked seems to be caught on that one line. But when the hook comes out, who is the shark?

    I think “superiority” can be a relative term.

    Sort of like asking which is stronger – water or rocks? Each shapes the other just in different ways. More like commensalism or mutualism to go with HG’s symbiotic example, then parasitism.

    1. Asp Emp says:

      Super, it was interesting to read your comment, thank you for sharing.

      1. Super says:

        Thank you Asp Emp.
        Have enjoyed reading your commentary on the articles I’ve read so far as well.

        1. Asp Emp says:

          Ah, thank you, Super.

    2. Sweetest Perfection says:

      I totally agree. I’ve been saying all this time, narcs are the ones that have a weakness not the other way around. As long as you depend on someone else for your survival, you are not at the top of the chain. Empaths can be on their own and actually thrive without narcs. Narcs can’t do anything without fuel.

      1. BC30 says:

        Super true and love your avi!! He’s so dreamy and perfect. I read that he has donated MILLIONS, like upwards of 80 million.

        1. Sweetest Perfection says:

          Being the same school and cadre I can say I can understand his generosity. I would donate millions too, if I had them!! Hahaha

        2. cadavera says:

          @BC30 I just jumped right into the mix here and thought to myself, “it sounds like she’s talking about Keanu Reeves….” then, I looked at the Avi you were referring to and all I could say was, “Whoa.” lol. Who’s excited about the Matrix 4? I can’t freaking wait. It’s interesting how so many have developed an appreciation for him in more recent times. I’ve always loved him (going back to River’s Edge days) and am glad to have seen all along what he is when so many didn’t. I just didn’t know what it was cuz I didn’t have the vocabulary back then, but I knew he was different. I was conditioned to not believe or trust my own thoughts growing up so it’s huge for me to have been able to discern something like this as a pre-teen. Go Team Keanu!

          1. BC30 says:

            I’ve been a fan for years, but it was always evident he’s super special. He’s also getting more handsome every day. 💘

          2. Sweetest Perfection says:

            Cadavera, I totally am excited about the 4th sequel. I didn’t enjoy 2 or 3 that much though, and I wonder how much they can improve the philosophy spectrum of the original Wachowskis’idea in this one. I love Keanu and I recently learned thanks to HG he and I share the same school and cadre of Empath, so I am looking forward to becoming the new Neo soon hahaha. It’s not coincidental he starred in Little Buddha. Being awake!

      2. A Victor says:

        I agree that we are strong. My Nex couldn’t have lived through what he put me through, if he was not a narcissist.

  18. njfilly says:

    Excellent interview, my man!

    I like this guy Doug.

  19. WhoCares says:

    Excellent interview HG. I have been watching for part two. Interesting Covid commentary and I enjoyed the Dungeons and Dragons reference.

    Still would have appreciated more specifically on cult phenomenon, haha…part 3?

    I appreciate Doug’s enthusiasm for your work. It reminds me of when I was first discovering your work and being stunned by its accuracy. He also asked some good questions.

  20. Sweetest Perfection says:

    Yay! Part 2!

    1. Sweetest Perfection says:

      Not listening yet. I’m reserving it for later tonight, practicing delayed gratification to maximize pleasure. I liked your prior interaction with Doug so it’s worth waiting.

      1. Sweetest Perfection says:

        Not finished yet. I am taking this slowly, savoring it.

        1. Asp Emp says:


        2. Sweetest Perfection says:

          There we go. This is my “review.” Of all the different interviews to HG I have had the opportunity to listen to, the series “Dazed but not Confused”is my favorite for many reasons. I love the interaction between both interlocutors; Doug is clearly an Empath and he seems to be as mesmerized by HG’s charisma as we all are, so it is easy to empathize with him. As an Empath, I appreciate he starts by expressing his gratitude for having healed thanks to your work . But Doug is clearly giving a lot of fuel during the interview, made evident by his flattering of HG’s charismatic personality and magnetic voice, flatters that he seemed to take with great pride, adding to those that he also has a superior sexual performance and a great sense of humor. The interaction is fluid and quite entertaining. I personally like the fact that Doug is a very pure soul, an open book, like an astonished child who has found his Holy Grail. On the other hand, I also love the fact that, probably due to this comfortable environment, HG also responds as an open book: he admits he declares what he is and how he abused people in his work and, notwithstanding his straightforward sincerity, some women still express their desire to have a date with him. At this point, I couldn’t stop thinking that a big part of HG’s success resides on the fact that he is like the cook of a junk food chain who, even if acknowledging that his survival depends on how much junk food he sells, he still warns you of the terrible effects of his diet on your health. He goes against his own kind and his own preservation, and though I would classify that as “treachery”, in this case, it seems noble, necessary, and very generous (though we all know he of course gets a gain from this). There are so many other discussions I love in this conversation, like the connection between narcissism and the scapegoating of minorities (Jews, Blacks) or the mention to Dungeons and Dragons (ha! I knew it), the abundance of a great variety of narcs in all spheres of life, not just romantic, or the implications of narcissistic personalities in the management of the pandemic. The latter provides the topic of narcissism with accuracy and relevance nowadays. I love the reference to the Lion, if only because it’s one of my favorite animals for personal reasons. And finally, I will just mention one small query I have. I noticed in most interviews, HG, you are introduced as “HG Tudor, a narcissistic psychopath.” If you are fine with that, be if. But I am not very satisfied. You are providing an excellent professional service. Doug mentioned you have 50+ books written on narcissism, plus a very prolific multidisciplinary/multimedia collection of different works (videos, blog entries, articles, audio recordings, social media). There are many other narcissist psychopaths. That’s not a professional distinction. You should be introduced as “Author HG Tudor, expert on narcissism”. Even better: “HG Tudor, number 1 expert on narcissism.” Your condition is not a limitation or a professional card. Your work is. Fabulous interview, congrats to both of you!

          1. HG Tudor says:

            Thank you for spending the time to provide such a fulsome analysis of the interview SP, that was most interesting to read. I understand the point you make with regard to my introduction and see there is force in that suggestion.

          2. Sweetest Perfection says:

            I’m glad you found it interesting. About the intro, I would get mad if they introduced me as Ms. SP instead of using my professional rank. Being a narcissist psychopath is obviously a singularity that not all of us share, but that’s not why you are being interviewed per se. It’s your brilliance and your hard work what made you stand out. Now, if you excuse me, I’ll take my fuel away for a while.

          3. Asp Emp says:

            HG, I can see both views and understand both views RE: “I understand the point you make with regard to my introduction and see there is force in that suggestion”. I am not taking sides yet I have shared on various threads my opinions – everybody is an individual and there will always be people who cannot see past a ‘label’ (more fool them). Therein lies the problem.

          4. K says:

            Sweetest Perfection
            You can feel Doug’s good vibes come through during the interview. The addiction is strong so I am not surprised that women still want to date HG even though they know that he is a Narcissistic Psychopath.

          5. Sweetest Perfection says:

            Yes you can, he is a very enthusiastic person and it is easy to feel his vibe.

          6. A Victor says:

            SP, wow! Super excited to watch this now! I love your assessment of HG’s credentials, I have tried to spread word of his work and many get hung up on the “narcissistic psychopath” part. So, “number 1 expert on narcissism” and then qualified with the reason he’s number 1 as the individual peruses the work. The instant they see their story in what he teaches, they’ll know he knows his stuff and the reason will no longer matter. At least that was my experience. Thank you for writing this, really great!

          7. Sweetest Perfection says:

            I’m glad you liked it, AV, thanks so much for your words.

          8. Asp Emp says:

            “I have tried to spread word of his work and many get hung up on the “narcissistic psychopath” part” – yes, I got the same impression from a couple of people when I was talking about it last summer.

          9. Asp Emp says:

            SP says – “HG, you are introduced as “HG Tudor, a narcissistic psychopath.” If you are fine with that, be if. But I am not very satisfied. You are providing an excellent professional service”.

            SP, I understand exactly what you mean and where you are coming from with this.

            People I have spoken with (last year) appeared to “switch off” and it bothers me because they cannot get past is what I feel / think is the real issue here – is the fact “labelling” and misunderstanding about HG’s KTN site as well as the narrow-mindedness (ignorance / lack of knowledge) of the general public.

            One person I spoke with was very open-minded about it because they could see the difference in me (mentally & emotionally).

            Thank you for sharing your view. It was good to read it.

          10. Sweetest Perfection says:

            I don’t intend to sugarcoat or to hide that HG is a narcissist psychopath. In fact, I believe it is important to know he is because he knows the way narcissists operate from the inside, which allows us to have the most accurate kind of information about their modus operandi. But he’s not just any other narcissist psychopath, he has a professional trajectory and a superior level of expertise attested by a solid body of work. It’s akin to introducing an English author who has won the Nobel Prize of literature by just saying “Whoever is English and speaks English.” Well, many people can say the same. But not many people have won the Nobel Prize thanks to their work.

          11. Asp Emp says:

            SP, you’re right in saying “But he’s not just any other narcissist psychopath”. HG isn’t.

            You made me laugh when you put “It’s akin to introducing an English author who has won the Nobel Prize of literature by just saying “Whoever is English and speaks English” – absolutely.

            It would be absolutely fab to see HG getting the accolades he has more than well earned and deserves during our lifetime.

          12. A Victor says:

            SP, agreed. “But he’s not just any other narcissist psychopath, he has a professional trajectory and a superior level of expertise attested by a solid body of work.” – this is what makes the claim of World’s Number One Expert valid, along with his personal knowledge, as you indicate. It’s a matter of approach, I believe, making more people willing to listen initially. Once they are at that point, if they’ve experienced ensnarement, it will be a natural connection.

          13. NarcAngel says:

            Great point about the introduction. I agree it should be Author HG Tudor out front.

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