Trait Detector
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Thank you HG for this wonderful analysis. Once again I am amazed at how accurately you can describe me and not even know me! This is a must for all readers!
You are welcome CM
What if a Mid Ranger takes this test and there are no empathic traits identified? That would have to be quite awkward.
There is a particular result which would arise from a MRN taking the test although I cannot explain it as that would affect the efficacy of the consultation. What I can say of course is that the MRN would not accept the outcome because their narcissism would not allow it.
HG that would be really entertaining. I wish I could witness that
It was good to read this comment, HG 🙂
HG, have you ever seen a Pretrial Sentencing Report for criminal court proceedings? They are a bit fascinating, because someone actually has a job of gathering info on the defendent to make a recommendation to the judge about sentencing. They do evaluate the defendants empathic and narcissistic traits during the discovery phase. They have to be able to tell the judge WHY this person committed the crime, and the chance that they will repeat offenders.
I have and I have also seen reports relating to child contact and residence applications which evaluate a range of behaviour, which also deals with the empathic and narcissistic traits.
The evaluation report for my child custody hearings was a joke. The judge assigned a social worker to do it. She only had a masters in education, with a certificate in counseling. She did not look for narcissism. Her report was dangerously incorrect, and we might have to redo it.
I had to do a pretrial report for a dui, that one was more accurate. They said I had no regards to following the law just for the sake of following the law. So they said that is what my criminal trait was. But they said I was highly empathic, and I would follow court orders and the laws if I knew it would help someone in some way, or if it aligned with my convictions. Therefore I had a poor driving record, but that was all.
The existence of and impact of narcissism is chronically overlooked in such situations and similar ones.
HG, I know you’re busy but . . .
Can’t you earn a quick social work degree (seems like anybody can get them), get the necessary letters behind your name, and provide these evaluations at a reasonable fee?
Which evaluations are you referring to Lisk, mine or the ones ANM was referring to (child contact etc)?
“evaluation report” for child custody hearings.
You already do the other ones without need for letters.
Thank you for clarifying.
Well I certainly would bring some actual clarity to the behaviours through the writing of the reports (as I have when advising people through consultation) and I recognise the need to slam some letters after my name in order to generate legitimacy from the relevant powers that be with regard to the writing of such reports.
Slam those letters, then, please, and use them for good not evil.
But hide them in public because a social work degree—even a psych degree— seems too lowly for you.
No degree is too lowly, but there are significant degrees between degrees!
You are so unique and intelligent, I love it.
I wonder if you are comparable to an average man, for example, unable to find an item in the refrigerator that is directly in front of you?
I imagine you calling out to the Shield Maiden; “Oh, Shield Maiden? Faithful, loyal Shield Maiden; I beseech thee, wouldst thou come to aideth me in securing my relevant condiment for thine Shepherd’s Pie?” – or something similar to this, as I assume this to be the way wealthy gentlemen and ladies speak to each other privately in the UK.
Thank you.
No, the lady who lives in the fridge always anticipates me my needs and hands the required item to me as soon as I open the fridge door.
I do not eat Shepherd´s Pie, it would be Cottage Pie, albeit I have not had it in years.
The upper classes in the UK do not speak to one another directly, we speak through the servants.
Oh, I see. Thank you for clarifying.
The last sentence was a joke by the way!
Well again, thank you for clarifying, as I then imagined your intimate evenings in the bedroom to be somewhat awkward.
I won’t bother sharing what came to mind as the possible scenario between yourselves with the servants involved!
Oh did that six months ago, share away.
I’m sorry, I don’t understand. You did what six months ago?
Off topic, but, don’t you have trait detector questionnaires to analyze?!
It was a joke re the servants.
They’d never let HG graduate unless he pretended to believe in their bullshit and didn’t throw off their curve. Those fields are a cesspool of mid-rangers.
When I was in grad school, I had a neighbor I used to chat with when we met in the laundry room. She was an undergraduate, majoring in English, and told me about a Shakespeare paper she was writing that blew me away. I could not have written that paper when I was an undergraduate.
She applied to the grad English Education program and was turned down. She said, “I can’t understand it; my friend got in, and her GPA was lower.” I said, “I wonder if she got in because her GPA was lower.” Checked with a reenactor friend who worked in the graduate school office, and she said, “That’s exactly how the College of Education does things. They want to keep their curve; they would never let your neighbor in.” She switched to French education, but generations of students will miss out, because instead of teachers like her, they’re getting the latest approved crop of Dolores Umbridges.
It’s the same in Social Work and getting almost as bad in Psychology. Mid-rangers not only want to keep out empaths like my neighbor, unless they get to manipulate them, they also want to keep out Greaters. A lot of these people are barely competent. As Samuel Johnson noted, “comparisons are odious.” They are especially odious to mid-rangers.
On the other hand, we’re talking HG, and he knows how to turn on the charm and hide his contempt when it’s to his advantage.
Correct.
Anm,
“The judge assigned a social worker to do it. She only had a masters in education, with a certificate in counseling. She did not look for narcissism. Her report was dangerously incorrect”
That is so concerning.
I may be finding myself in a similar situation soon.
WhoCares,
If you are concerned about facing a similar situation, read the book, Splitting by Bill Eddy and Randi Kreger. The book specifically goes over a step by step plan with how to deal with court evaluations, why narcissist often “win”/cheat custody evaluations, why the empathic parent often loses, how to present your case to get a favorable outcome, and what to do it you think the Evaluator has turned against you. I wish I read the book a few years ago. You can find it on Amazon.
The link didn’t work for
some reason so
I’ve PayPal’d you with a note.
Received thank you material be sent after I organise today’s playlist for those dwelling in the dungeon
Rick Dees’ style!
Having WP issues again and could not reply under the comment of degrees being too low. Started a reply and lost it. (I think)
Indeed, no degree is too low. There are slimy upper lessers practicing DUI law for instance. Same juris doctorate degree. Being taken seriously and your degree combined with a CV is influence. Not the degree alone. Sure, if you were a licensed forensic psychologist or psychiatrist you have the pinnacle of degrees for your work maybe, but then again not really. Why? You could be perceived as an unethical fruitcake to provide empath material/questions, or narc detectors by some. Current didactics do not support your estimates on narcissism, will they ever? Unlikely. I support it entirely as do many of your readers, but had to hit bottom to do so. This will not be the tradition of the normal so majority support is far from likely.
I can pursue licensure to diagnose and “treat” axis II conditions absolutely, but it makes my stomach hurt! If I do it’ll be for more academic prowess and not writing Zoloft prescriptions. So, maybe HG—it is perfect as it is. And—when my a/c blows a guy with a heating & air degree is pretty valuable. Why would that be “low.”??
Plumbers can always find work. Especially now, when all this tp substitutes are clogging the works.
I’m also having WP problems. I don’t see any replies to my comments, I can’t like comments, and I can’t post comments through WP. I must go directly to the blog. Perhaps Mr. Tudor would want to know this.
Mr Tudor now knows.
Ok, Mr. Tudor. I want you to know this as it does interfere with my interactions on the blog.
I also can’t like comments through the blog.
Mine had problems too, it made me mad so I deleted my WP account a few days ago & made a new one today lol I’ll see if it works
I’m a little late seeing this comment, but, what is the playlist? Do you really enjoy music? What other bands do you like besides Depeche Mode? Or should I be saving these questions for Sunday’s Q&A?
With regard to the role of music, if you access “Is it a Manipulation” and insert music into the scenarios presented there, you will have your answer NJF.
I recommend you ask me on Sunday!
HG off topic . I kind off stayed in touch with only the online narcs . They all are somatic low midrange narcs and one middle or upper midrange elite . I did it because my own interest in pshycology and most defiently your work in this large spectrum and obviously my own addiction as well so I’ve really noticed that they just seem to be the same person it’s just the fact that they send me a private Snapchat that I could be sure that was not the case . They all interact in the same way . They all hoovering me now as well benign they want me to be their wife this is just ridicilous . Oh one I did meet in person because he targeted me offline . I think I have so much trust in your work even more now . I’am very proud off your awarness and look foward learning more and more from you .
Thank you.You must ensure that you prevent this hoovering because of the risks posed by them individually and Cross Pollution.
What’s cross pollution?
https://narcsite.com/2020/04/09/cross-pollution/
I’m anxiously awaiting my results. The Final Jeopardy music playing in the background for 96 hours! Ha ha. The questionnaire IS comprehensive. HG covered all the bases to ferret out the traits.
Haha MB – I can hear the music!
I‘ll give y’all an update when I get mine back. It’s going to be mind blowing!
MB
Hahahahaha…I am looking forward to it!
MB — what were your results?
Hi BC30, I never came back to it did I? Jeopardy music still playing 🤣
I had representation of all 10 narcissistic and all 10 empathic traits. Of course I was confirmed to be highly empathic which wasn’t a surprise but was not the aim of this particular consultation. The questionnaire is quite accurate as it homed in to reveal that my narcissistic trait of defiance is the most likely to be hijacked by my ET to derail my NC regime. All that know me would agree as to my strong trait of defiance. Especially my mother!! It’s not so much stubbornness as it is the fact that I don’t like to be told what to do and this detector picked up on that distinction. I found it quite interesting and very helpful to be forewarned of what could look logical to me, but actually be flawed and trip me up. I highly recommend this detector. One more plate in your armor of logic defenses.
Thanks for sharing. I did it and also highly recommend it. I can’t say I was surprised my N traits were so high, but I was surprised that a couple of them were so low. Defiance and Pride were my highest– no shocker there, and now I know how those put me at risk of ensnarement and breaking NC.
I’m having a consult in a couple weeks to discuss my ED and TD results as they relate to one another.
Remember they are relative to one another
So exciting! Please, keep us posted! I will need to wait a little bit; my priority now is sending money home to help my family. I’m worried about my sister losing her job more than anyone else. I’ll take it as soon as I can though.
Everyone should learn those traits they have which are susceptible to becoming an N magnet! In understanding yourself you can be armed and prepared.
HG approves.
Dear HG, the God.
One thing I’m doing to triangulate the Somatic is I dress the same as another guy at our sport. The other guy is an Empath – positive and easy going, and we laugh lots together! We started matching our outfits, and I’m getting matching headbands for me and him, and a girl with an effervescent personality who we joke with too.
The Somatic will be furious 😁 I can’t wait to take the trait detector and find out what trait I’m exhibiting by taunting him.
Foolishness?
ET
Is ET a trait?
No, it is a condition.
Another thing I’m doing to annoy him is talking about buying shares, which is his expertise and profession. I don’t know anything about finance. He hates it. I claimed my friend (who also knows nothing) said that it’s a good time to invest. That was insulting to him. I might get another Narcs at our sport into a conversation about it, and ask the other Narc for advice.
Whitney, why are you talking to him? Hole up with people you can trust and tell stories to pass the time, as they did during the Plague in Boccaccio’s Decameron.
OK Violetta, I will do that 💞 the narcissist is empty right? They are nothing. The relationship involves my essence only.
hilarious! exactly the sort of thing I would do! Thanks for the tip Whitney!
Hehe Alexis 😊 I wish you could come to my sport. It’s fun to categorise everyone based on HG’s work. There are about 70 people and 6 times more men than women. Lots of Narcs, normals and empaths. We are randomly placed in teams. Most of the organisers are Narcs. Sometimes I’m in a team with multiple Narcs. I like to watch them physically clash during the matches. We go to the pub after too!
Hahaha it would be great to share in this fun! I wish I could too Whitney
Omg you would absolutely love it! 😄
Whitney:
That sounds like fun. Particularly going to the pub afterward.
What sport are you playing? Any situation involving 6 times more men than women is OK by me!
Hi njfilly! Hehe it is fun! So sorry I would love to tell YOU the sport but I can’t say because it could identify me to people reading. My city + the specific sport.
Anyway if you go to any mixed social sport, there are way more men than women! Try it njfilly after covid clears up. I wish you could come to my sport with me. (It is cancelled now due to covid – good for my no contact)
Whitney,
You shouldn’t attempt to manipulate – you cannot do it. You cannot outsmart him. You will get hurt. ☹
Correct.
I agree. I tried various things to get back at him, make him see what he was doing, act like I didn’t care…..he’s always better I guess from the way his brain works and practice. My lawyer wanted me to handle some of the smaller things with him, but they always turn into giant frustrations. Right now I’m getting the electronic silent treatment, and frankly it’s probably best for me. Yesterday he had our daughter return an old photo album of my mother’s, it had cat urine sprayed all over it. What a guy. But I know that is the initial contact play. Be careful you’re dragging it on. More pain.
This is EXACTLY what I need for work.
Next week, though. Just spent my whole paycheck on panic-buying food that I don’t want (I function best with a very bare fridge) and wine that I have no room for (no cellar here!).
Lisk, I turned my house into a wine cellar too. Forget toilet paper! Priorities priorities…
HG the God. I will definitely do this wonderful new detector to gain insight. I can’t wait.
Get stuck in, your will find it comprehensive, fascinating and very helpful.
Oui. Il faut que je le fasse au plus vite. I need to take this asap.
Yes, you do.
Defiance (narcissistic trait) syncs up with my truth seeker (empathic) trait and I have almost no control over what comes out of my mouth (challenge fuel) and I love it!
K:
“I have almost no control over what comes out of my mouth”
I resemble that remark!
Violetta
Hahahahaha…it’s an empath thing.
It all makes perfect sense, both our empathic and narcissistic traits are corrupted by our ET. It’s a recipe for disaster.
K—I can’t digest more of what is wrong with me right now. Not this week! Ugh
Lorelei
There is nothing wrong with you! You are perfect just the way you are. You just need to work on your ET.
Don’t I know! F*^%!!
Thank you HG!
That was great! ET hijacks my Narcissistic trait of Pride which syncs up with my Truth Seeker Trait. Hahaha…no surprise there!
The balance is fantastic: light and dark, yin and yang, Scully and Mulder (X-Files), Jedi and Sith.
If I were a cookie, I would almost be a half moon cookie (first or last quarter).
The spread of narcissistic traits is pretty cool. My inner Narcissist battles with my inner Empath, however, my inner Empath usually wins.
Glad you found it useful and interesting, it is something that many people will benefit from and the outcomes are very interesting.
Ooooo, gonna have to do this one soon.
Sensible step.
Oh, very interesting. I will be purchasing this tonight. I want Mr. HG Tudor to analyze my personality traits.
Jolly good, you will find it very enlightening.
Oooooh! Fun. This is on the list
More than fun WAF, an essential defence!
Is this like the empath detector?
Different.
Different from the empath detector, so you will not tell us what type of empath we are during this consult?
No, the Empath Detector tells you if you are an empath and if so, which school and cadre.
The Trait Detector tells you which traits you have, both empathic and narcissistic, the strength of those traits and which ones are at the greatest vulnerability to exploitation from ET. It is very carefully constructed and will be a fascinating outcome and interesting in itself as you work through a very comprehensive questionnaire. Don’t delay, join the others who have obtained it.
Thanks HG. This is definitely something I will have to do!
I agree.
HG it’s different then the empath detector, so the information I have from both detectors will help in discovering even more of my many issues? I don’t know if I can handle anymore? But I’ll give it a shot anyhow!
HG, is that your eye?
You will find it most enlightening. It is not so much about “issues” but providing you a comprehensive break-down of the relevant and extent of your empathic and narcissistic traits along with which ones are most susceptible to exploitation by emotional thinking.
Thank you HG. I will be purchasing this on Friday, as long as the stores are open to buy a new gift card?
HG, is that your eye?
No, its not.