Hi AC, for some reason your comment prompted a thought in my mind of Elizabeth Taylor and her many husbands, including the one she was married to twice – Richard Burton. She had an affair with him and another husband before marrying them. I wonder if the heat of their relationship, and the many relationships she had, could come down to narcissism? She ended up alone in the end – seven husbands and eight divorces later – but I’m not sure she belongs in the category of a greater. I just know she went through a lot of husbands and still ended up alone so it does appear to be more often the case for women than men. Unless it’s because women generally outlive men, or the fact looks fade and with it their star quality.
LET
Yeah, my parents and grandparents liked Liz a lot, don’t know whether she had empathy.
But wrinkles and grey hair on a woman sort of, statistically seems to defy everything that was daring about her beforehand. Totally left alone later in life, for having written stormy famous lyrics like this.
If we take it back to Taylor, and her stormy and short lived relationships with men, I’m guessing that is one reason female Greater’s end up alone. They are unable to sustain any long term relationships. Why is that the case more for women than men? I’m not sure it is, as men will move through a number of relationships also and HG has yet to find one to sustain or satisfy him permanently. I think there are empathic men who are willing to tolerate the behaviour of female narcissist’s, much the same as vice versa, and only a more shallow man would make looks the consideration for sustaining the relationship. Men are going to age, too, and often not as well as women. I just don’t think aging is the main concern. But the key could be in the stormy lyrics. For the narcissist it’s wash, rinse, repeat or seduce, devalue, discard. Perhaps it is the female Greater’s who are responsible for their own eventual isolation in the circumstances. Male Greater’s run the same risk, I think.
So interesting your parent’s and grandparent’s liked Liz Taylor 🙂 She just randomly popped into my head when I read your comment, AC. She was very beautiful, and ‘stormy’ <3
I’m not sure whether I replied or not Cat? my head has been a bit fuzzy lately ahaha. Ah I understand, yes I completely agree the world is not super nice to ageing women. Men are supposed to be rich and powerful and women should remain young and beautiful forever. Both impossible for most people.
It reminds me of this British sitcom called ‘Greenwing’. It was hilarious, well the first few episodes were.
Anyway, there was this one particular scene in it where there is a woman who must be mid 40s? and she keeps walking past a group of builders desperate for them to take notice of her. eventually after a complete lack of interest on their part she shouts at them and then flashes her boobs hahahaah
I do believe though that a female N wouldn’t have any trouble attracting a man still. even the female mids I know seem to do a pretty good job and still manage to get their fuel even if they have to change tack
oooh I found the clip I mentioned too. that’s gonna be me ahahaha
HG,
You have forever changed how I listen to music which not a criticism but very eye opening. I now view all the lyrics that I thought were so beautiful and heartfelt as “yeah right, spoken like a true narc.”
Hello, how are you? I hope you and your family are safe and well. It always makes me happy when I see you commenting! I wish you and yours a beautiful holiday season. 😘💞
Aw, thank you so much FM1T!! I am well, thank you, and I hope you are too. I’ve had to lurk a lot recently due to being busy at work, but I hope to get more involved again soon. I love this blog and the people on it, and I miss not being on here 💕
bc123,
Yes I am fine, thank you for asking. I understand completely about being busy, I have just recently come back after a short absence myself. It’s funny how after being off for awhile coming back always makes me feel like I’m coming home. Take care bu123! 💞
Never been a Swift fan. Comes across as horrifically fake, can’t stand to watch, or listen to her.
Enjoyed the analysis, interesting when you see the lyrics broken down that way.
My narc radar on point for this one. It’s the online narcs that trip me up!
What a great breakdown. No doubt you could do this with a number of Taylor Swift’s songs, and I’m sure many other artists as well. That really is fascinating.
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Is that your handwriting, HG?
These daring dashing lyrics only seem to work for male greaters, HG.
So many female greater narcissist stars end up alone later in life, without IPPS?
Hi AC, for some reason your comment prompted a thought in my mind of Elizabeth Taylor and her many husbands, including the one she was married to twice – Richard Burton. She had an affair with him and another husband before marrying them. I wonder if the heat of their relationship, and the many relationships she had, could come down to narcissism? She ended up alone in the end – seven husbands and eight divorces later – but I’m not sure she belongs in the category of a greater. I just know she went through a lot of husbands and still ended up alone so it does appear to be more often the case for women than men. Unless it’s because women generally outlive men, or the fact looks fade and with it their star quality.
LET
Yeah, my parents and grandparents liked Liz a lot, don’t know whether she had empathy.
But wrinkles and grey hair on a woman sort of, statistically seems to defy everything that was daring about her beforehand. Totally left alone later in life, for having written stormy famous lyrics like this.
If we take it back to Taylor, and her stormy and short lived relationships with men, I’m guessing that is one reason female Greater’s end up alone. They are unable to sustain any long term relationships. Why is that the case more for women than men? I’m not sure it is, as men will move through a number of relationships also and HG has yet to find one to sustain or satisfy him permanently. I think there are empathic men who are willing to tolerate the behaviour of female narcissist’s, much the same as vice versa, and only a more shallow man would make looks the consideration for sustaining the relationship. Men are going to age, too, and often not as well as women. I just don’t think aging is the main concern. But the key could be in the stormy lyrics. For the narcissist it’s wash, rinse, repeat or seduce, devalue, discard. Perhaps it is the female Greater’s who are responsible for their own eventual isolation in the circumstances. Male Greater’s run the same risk, I think.
So interesting your parent’s and grandparent’s liked Liz Taylor 🙂 She just randomly popped into my head when I read your comment, AC. She was very beautiful, and ‘stormy’ <3
I’m intrigued Cat, what makes you think female GNs end up alone?
Well the world is not supernice to ageing women, especially ones who wrote stormy relationship lyrics.
Much more forgiving of men.
Women throw themselves at men of any age even if they wrote stormy (or even misogynic) songlyrics like this one.
I’m not sure whether I replied or not Cat? my head has been a bit fuzzy lately ahaha. Ah I understand, yes I completely agree the world is not super nice to ageing women. Men are supposed to be rich and powerful and women should remain young and beautiful forever. Both impossible for most people.
It reminds me of this British sitcom called ‘Greenwing’. It was hilarious, well the first few episodes were.
Anyway, there was this one particular scene in it where there is a woman who must be mid 40s? and she keeps walking past a group of builders desperate for them to take notice of her. eventually after a complete lack of interest on their part she shouts at them and then flashes her boobs hahahaah
I do believe though that a female N wouldn’t have any trouble attracting a man still. even the female mids I know seem to do a pretty good job and still manage to get their fuel even if they have to change tack
oooh I found the clip I mentioned too. that’s gonna be me ahahaha
Haha! Builder’s gonna form unions against this.
alexissmith2016, that is hilarious!!
HG,
You have forever changed how I listen to music which not a criticism but very eye opening. I now view all the lyrics that I thought were so beautiful and heartfelt as “yeah right, spoken like a true narc.”
Educational and entertaining, HG, and so spot on! Is that your handwriting?
I was wondering the same thing, FYC 🙂
We’re going to have to send it to the analysts!
Brilliantly direct from a narc POV!! Hidden in plain sight!
blackunicorn,
Hello, how are you? I hope you and your family are safe and well. It always makes me happy when I see you commenting! I wish you and yours a beautiful holiday season. 😘💞
Aw, thank you so much FM1T!! I am well, thank you, and I hope you are too. I’ve had to lurk a lot recently due to being busy at work, but I hope to get more involved again soon. I love this blog and the people on it, and I miss not being on here 💕
bc123,
Yes I am fine, thank you for asking. I understand completely about being busy, I have just recently come back after a short absence myself. It’s funny how after being off for awhile coming back always makes me feel like I’m coming home. Take care bu123! 💞
Never been a Swift fan. Comes across as horrifically fake, can’t stand to watch, or listen to her.
Enjoyed the analysis, interesting when you see the lyrics broken down that way.
My narc radar on point for this one. It’s the online narcs that trip me up!
What a great breakdown. No doubt you could do this with a number of Taylor Swift’s songs, and I’m sure many other artists as well. That really is fascinating.
These are so interesting, I saw the other one on IG also, I hope you do a few more.
HG, I like your ‘translation’ of the song into Narcspeak.
I could hear the song playing as I read down the lyrics! Thanks for the video share, AspEmp.
Thank you, LET 🙂
Well, she would know.
(P.S. It’s always worth the pain)
Most prescient Mr. Tudor!-I’ve just been listening to Sledgehammer-Peter Gabriel-and I’m going out! Check ya later!