Meghan Markle : A Less than Royal Narcissist : Part 33.2 : Engagement Analysis
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I agree that the red flags were flying in the speed of which Harry and Meghan’s first dates and holiday together happened.
Not only did Harry not pay attention to this because of the love bombing aspect and not having knowledge about this – but notice the comparison that he makes when he states how nice it was to get to know Meghan ‘one on one’ (he states this in reference to camping together and spending time “at home” in comparison to traditionally going out on a series of dates in the early stages of a relationship). I think this evidences his past experiences with trying to date and get to know someone well (and the difficulties associated with that in the realm of his role as a member of the Royal family, his commitments and the expectations surrounding that) – so he expresses appreciation of how they had the opportunity to get to know one another in this fashion and how nice it was (of course, part of the reason this is happening is due to the determination of the narcissist to quickly assert control and therefore making the perceived effort to prioritize getting to know Harry because she’s enamored with him.) The point of it though, from Harry’s perspective, is that it feels so good (and different) getting to know someone one on one – without the constraints of RF commitments and the scrutiny of media etc. always watching… therefore the narcissist gives the victim something they were lacking before the narc entered their life.
I think this is a common hook for victims. In Harry’s life it would be a rarity to have a normal ‘get to know each other’ stage of the relationship.
I think Harry also has always desired some freedom from the constraints of Royal family life and some adventure – so heading off with Meghan to do ‘their own thing’ feels good to him, and is a hook – she grants him a perceived “freedom” – the irony, is it isn’t true freedom.
The lovebombing was also helped by the fact it was a long distance relationship which would have consisted of passionate reconciliation, intense time together, then pining for each other while apart followed by another passionate reconciliation etc. That scenario would have only prolonged the honeymoon (or seduction) phase.
PortiaRose,
“The lovebombing was also helped by the fact it was a long distance relationship”
I agree, it definitely would have intensified their time together.
I watched the engagement interview of Harry & Meghan.
I have wondered who determined the seating / positions of the persons involved in this interview. Did the couple ‘decide’ (or, rather, did Meghan ‘decide’)?
I noticed Meghan ‘laughed’ when Harry mentioned that she “literally” fell into his life. He also talked about the subjects that they ‘talked’ about on the first date which then led to date 2 etc.
That ‘smile of satisfaction’ is instinctively clear when there is a mention of “going to have a bigger platform a bigger voice…..”
There appears to be a ‘dipping’ of her head to get Harry to look at her face while she is looking into his eyes – as if her body language was giving an ‘order’ – look into my eyes / look at my face type, demanding his attention.
The main difference between Harry & Meghan’s and William & Kate’s engagement interviews that I noticed is that Harry & Meghan did not spend much time (if any) talking about their respective families – it was very focussed on Harry & Meghan.
The other difference I noticed was that William & Kate were animated when they talked about various subjects.
As I have previously stated – I am not a ‘fan’ of the Royal Family and never had a great interest in them. Yet since Harry’s & Meghan’s Interview with Oprah – I have been reading up. I have noticed also, that there has been so many programmes on tv about various members of the Royal Family – ie, last night it was Fergie’s turn, Diana before that, the Queen last week and also one about Duke of Edinburgh’s mother……. I was not aware that Fergie had more than one interview with Oprah until last night.
RE: this video, Part 33.2 – Interesting to read that William had conversed with Harry in relation to ‘slowing things down’.
Where Meghan has stated that she didn’t know much about Harry & the Royal Family – I knew it was BS. Of course, since her ‘statement’, people have come forward, HG has done his research. Contradicting such ‘statements’ from Meghan.
(05:45) “Prince Harry explains that they only had two dates and then were taking that huge leap of going on holiday together” – OMG, that is seriously QUICK. Wow. (I am laughing, with shock but not surprised). That is more than one Red Flag flying!!!
It was 6 months of meeting MRN before there was any ‘intimacy’. Goes to show that there can be differences in narcissists and their ‘ensnaring techniques’ yet their ‘Prime Aims’ remain the same.
Thanks for this analysis, HG.
The difference between the Prince Harry in this interview and the one in the Oprah interview is quite heartbreaking. Gone is his spark, enthusiasm and lightness of being.
And while MM remains the consummate performer, her role has also changed markedly; she has now acquired a brittle bitterness that is characteristic of perpetual victimhood.
PR, your words “The difference between the Prince Harry in this interview and the one in the Oprah interview is quite heartbreaking. Gone is his spark, enthusiasm and lightness of being” – the impact of Harry being a victim of narcissism is being observed / noticed by others – hope he gets ‘rescued’ sooner than later – for his sanity’s sake.
For a moment, I wondered if Meghan was ‘flipping the bird’ in this image……
The subtleties of the narcissistic behavior are becoming more evident to me through this series, thank you HG, I only wish I would’ve picked up on the commercial being a hint to watch the interview prior to the release of these analysis videos. I’m not good at catching subtleties apparently, hehe…
Like a number of others here, I couldn’t bring myself to watch either broadcast. MM really triggers me, so getting it through HG’s filter works well enough for me. I did catch a few clips on Gogglebox, but I’m not subjecting myself to the whole thing unless the Bots of MST3K ever riff on it on the Satellite of Love.
I actually got Hulu live for one month just to watch the Oprah interview. I haven’t watched the engagement one and probably won’t since i gave watched HG’s analysis of it already. MM is super annoying, she is in some ways very similar to my ex who is the same variety of narcissist, which has made it even more interesting to me since learnt this.
Learning* not learnt.
I love that we’re now into decimals.
Laughing……
(sorry HG).
You either are not taking into account that the Firm the the grand narc here and tried to destroy Meghan with racist actions and media silences, when Kate and everyone else white -even the child rapist andrew – got a better “shake” and better treatment than Meghan. While you keep portraying Meghan as the Narc here, she is lesser a one than the royal family and the Firm that control them.
I very much recommend that you listen to the evidence before commenting.
HG hasn’t spared either Andrew (see the “Royal Narcissist” series, part 5) or Charles. Or Piers Morgan, for that matter.
This series has been an eye-opener not only on Harry’s seduction and devaluation, but also on the various collisions between the multiple narcs involved. I’ve heard and seen people try to take sides, and most do not take into account the fact that this is a veritable narcfest. It’s also interesting in terms of how various non-narcs tract to a narc’s ploys. The Queen, the Cambridges, and poor clueless Harry are non-narcs surrounded by the feeding frenzy, although the Queen at least has seen enough of the world to have considerable insight into character, even if she isn’t employing official terminology to describe it in private, let alone in public. (“–remain much-loved members of the family”–if Meghan caught British subtleties, that might sting, rather than soothe.)
I suspect William has more than a clue, and Kate has actually been protected by her instinct to protect her kids: she was never going to fall.for Meghan’s initial efforts to charm her into being BFFs (or at least until devaluation) after somehow getting a glimpse of Meghan’s true colors. Whether it was her attitude toward Charlotte during the fitting or a pre-wedding incident in which Meghan apparently tried to sneak a photograph of the Cambridge children/interior of a residence without William or Kate’s knowledge or permission, something raised the mother hen’s hackles at a perceived threat to her chicks. No one seems to know exactly what happened, but while Kate has been vilified by Meghan fans, she was safe from being first cultivated by Meghan, then devalued and dumped. She dutifully accompanied her to Wimbledon in an attempt to shore up Meghan’s deteriorating image, but Meghan couldn’t betray her trust, as she was unable to win it in the first place.
If you look at HG’s analysis of George Floyd’s death, you’ll.see that he recognized Narcissism at work in a number of political activists on both the left and the right, as well as in Chauvin himself. Btw, he has also repeatedly put Donald Trump under the Tudor-scope. They say “it takes one to know one,” and HG is going to call out Narcissism wherever he sees it.
I think that Kate was protected because she isn’t an empath. She doesn’t trust as easily as most empaths do and she doesn’t have a strong people pleasing trait that a lot of empaths do. From what I have read about her through the years, my opinion is that none of Kate’s parents are narcissists but her uncle is but the uncle was not in a position to affect the shaping of her as a person.