The Narcissist’s Playbook – Vaknin Under Attack
Sam Vaknin has been accused of abusing his therapy clients and false academic credentials. A further development results in him coming under another attack. I break down precisely what is happening and why.
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just listening to Ep.8 of Isla’s podcast on the matter. really not at ease with this Grannon-centred hero theme. i find it hard to believe Grannon is the hapless, unsuspecting underling/friend/business partner he’s portraying himself as.
You are correct. Grannon actually damages the credibility of the allegations, because his involvement provides an easy option for deflection, which Vaknin has already used namely “This is Grannon engaging in another hit piece” and he may not be wrong about that. In effect Vaknin is potentially using the truth to nullify a threat to control and Grannon is using the truth (Vaknin´s alleged abuse of his therapy clients) to assert control over Vaknin.
Mr. Tudor,
Is Grannon an unaware narc? What about Vicente? He seems to be a bit more calm, cool & collected? Is he an aware narcissist?
He is.
I have not assessed Vicente.
RG posted a video on YouTube three weeks ago with the title “A lot of people online think I am a narcissist…Well, the truth is.” He went on to say he has an actual clinical diagnosis (a severe form of it), however he never tells us what it is (he dropped hints of CPTSD). He says he was diagnosed by an actual medical doctor that is also a psychiatrist, however he never gives us a name of that doctor. He states that the doctors were deeply empathic and knew after 20 minutes of him walking off the street exactly how he behaved and RG thought they might be psychic.
He stated 3-4 times periodically throughout the video that he was starting a 21 day challenge of un-blending with toxic families. It was hard to figure if he was just selling a course or nullifying a threat to control?
I will keep it brief, but it had loads of crap all the way through.
For clarity, I should add, in the video RG states he does not have NPD because the unnamed psychiatrist said he did not have it. He also states he took an online test that indicated he had high narcissistic traits, similar to someone who becomes famous for one reason or another.
Hi Heather,
I watched that video too. Very entertaining, he spent an entire 25 minute video talking about himself without actually stating what he believed himself to be. Instead, he invited listeners to speculate about his diagnosis. So in short, “ I’m going to assert control over you by monologuing for the duration of the video. Once I’m done monologuing and pity playing, I would then like for you to talk about me in my comments section, debate my diagnosis ( I’m definitely not a narc though, nope, no narcs over here) and provide me with more control and fuel, which I shall absorb at my leisure whilst sipping on my caffeine and gluten free chai latte, snivelling and dabbing gently at my red raw, tear-stained cheeks.”
The guy adds nothing and is a complete non event in terms of explaining narcissism. He has also adopted a very quiet, pausing style of delivery of late, so he is even more irritating than he was previously. Must be because he is so hurt by Vaknin. So hurt, so sad, so…misunderstood.
Heather Fest & Truthseeker,
I watched the same video. Grannon gets an A+ in vagueness and being noncommittal…and therefore a D- in accountability.
I noted that, again, in one of the most recent episodes of Isla Traquair’s podcast she has stated that Grannon is a psychology graduate, himself. I wonder if Isla has asked him to prove it?
Hi 1WhoCares,
“Grannon gets an A+ in vagueness and being noncommittal…and therefore a D- in accountability.”
Absolutely! I actually watched it to the end as well. I think I’m going slightly mad.
Truthseeker,
“Absolutely! I actually watched it to the end as well. I think I’m going slightly mad.”
I know what you are saying; I never wanted to pay attention to some of these characters. (From The Narcissist’s Playbook) And I would never intentionally listen to Grannon at length – but the title was the hook. And I was like: “Ah, hell” knowing full well it was going to be a chore…
IWhoCares,
Haha! Yes. Exactly the same reasoning over here x.
Thanks for your commentary, HG.
Episode (14) gives Grannon a lot of space to speak about his experiences with SV.
The more he talks, the worse he sounds.
He spoke about a time when SV goaded him to meet one of his ‘girlfriends’ aka ‘victims’ in Zurich, encouraging him to sleep with her or something.
Grannon says he met the lady, ‘knowing full well the correct answer was NO’, because he was ‘sick of being Sam’s little bitch’.
Gran eventually went back to his hotel with her and they did sexual stuff. Isla later clarifies it wasn’t full intercourse, but sexual contact. The lady was also described as being very vulnerable.
Gran reckons he didn’t know how vulnerable she was until the allegations came to his attention.
I’ve just left another comment on here about Grannon, how he has a tactic he could have nicked from SV: being ‘honest’ about himself.
Grannon seems to like ‘being honest’, for example: saying he never should’ve gone to meet the lady, etc. His apparent honesty is manipulative in my opinion. It could disarm a listener, but behind that, he’s not being honest with himself and I find his general spiel inconsistent.
He describes being brainwashed, being a cult member of SV, like Mark Vicente was a cult member. Yet, he says earlier he approached SV because he initially he felt sorry for him and helped him to build his reputation and YT channel. He also mentions being used to high conflict people, due to his past, how he knows how to handle someone like Sam. Then later he’s SV’s bitch and brainwashed? Hmm.
I said before, Granny would’ve been wise to withdraw himself from the whole morass with a solid statement.
“In effect Vaknin is potentially using the truth to nullify a threat to control and Grannon is using the truth (Vaknin´s alleged abuse of his therapy clients) to assert control over Vaknin.” – I reckon you might have put this pickle in a nut shell!
“He describes being brainwashed, being a cult member of SV, like Mark Vicente was a cult member. Yet, he says earlier he approached SV because he initially he felt sorry for him and helped him to build his reputation and YT channel. He also mentions being used to high conflict people, due to his past, how he knows how to handle someone like Sam. Then later he’s SV’s bitch and brainwashed? Hmm.”
Good point, Mari!
Grannon has exhibited a pattern of idealising Vaknin (using him for information and collaboration) then devaluation (seeking to shut down Vaknin’s YT channel with copyright strikes, the recent activity and more besides). His explanations for his behaviour lack consistency owing to an “in the moment” approach.
HG,
“Grannon has exhibited a pattern of idealising Vaknin (using him for information and collaboration) then devaluation (seeking to shut down Vaknin’s YT channel with copyright strikes, the recent activity and more besides).”
Thanks for explaining that, and it follows that it would, of course, come to devaluation.
I find the relationship between Vaknin & Grannon of interest, specifically the mutual trait acquisition that went on.
Grannon benefitted from Vaknin’s more cerebral side and academic bent, and in turn Vaknin benefitted from Grannon’s apparent ability to appear relatable and savvy about narcissistic abuse.
I took some notes from Episode 13 of Isla Traquair’s podcast. Here, Vaknin describes the mutual benefit between him and Grannon (these are rough notes):
Vaknin: “we have a “division of labour”, “I introduce cutting edge new concepts” and he has a knack for “simplifying and popularizing extremely difficult and intricate concepts”, “we are a great team together”, “he is in constant touch with thousands of people who seek his help”
Vaknin (on Grannon): “I do my best to avoid people.” “Richard is my liason to the outside world.”
“And I am his research assistant.” “I scour the literature and come up with concepts of my own.” “So we are a great team I think.”
Grannon (on Vaknin):
“I respect Sam. There is no question who has the superior intellect.”
“You`re the expert in the field.. we both get something from the relationship”
“He`’s had a huge impact on me.” “I don`t watch anyone else. I can`t be bothered.” “He treats me with more civility than most people I know.”
And, notably, Isla Traquair fully believes Grannon’s version of events. Here are some rough quotations from her, in this episode:
“RG raised V.`s profile, got him access to money, exposure”
“Richard defended Sam against his critics.”
“(Grannon) thought it was part of the “Sam Vaknin, dog and pony show.” and that he was putting on an act of being evil.”
I appreciate you allowing thorough discussion from the fallout of The Narcissist’s Playbook, HG. It’s an interesting, and evolving, learning opportunity.
“His explanations for his behaviour lack consistency owing to an “in the moment” approach.”
That tracks.
“And, notably, Isla Traquair fully believes Grannon’s version of events.”
Isla even made excuses for his behavior with Jane. She needs the rose colored glasses shattered.
Hello- excellent points both you and Mari. I smell money. There’s more to this story and I think the two fought about money. Plus the cerebral v somatic. Interesting contrast. As to Grannon, I don’t know him but that episode bothered me a lot about him. And yes Isla looks at him as a respected coworker in this project and more importantly a supporter of her survivor group.
The playbook, the podcast… Grannon did bring it to them. There is that fact too. The survivors all communicate and trust him implicitly. I think Grannon says “ daily.” Think about that…..
Leigh,
I had been meaning to respond but had lost this comment until now:
“Isla even made excuses for his behavior with Jane.”
I know!!
Emotional thinking on the part of the empathy, if I ever saw it!
Hi 1WC,
Re: Isla’s ET
That’s why I really hope she has some real conversations wirh Mr. Tudor. Her ET is high. Gannon was using honesty the same way Vaknin did & she didn’t pick up on it.
I know she really wants to understand how insidious it is to be ensnared by a narc. Its only with Mr. Tudor’s help, that she can truly understand it.
Hi Mari,
You know what I find interesting about Granny. (I had to steal Granny because it was too good not to steal!) Anywho, its interesting that Granny goes on and on about how Vaknin uses the truth as if it’s ok he’s doing it because he’s telling the truth. Then Granny goes and does that himself. I wonder if Isla picked up on that.
Dear Leigh, thanks for your comments on all this, I’ve been reading everyone’s! ‘Granny’ is in the public cloud for use as appropriate, so you’re not stealing it. I wrote it for expedience, but like how ridiculous it sounds 😀
I wonder if Isla did pick up on those things, or will pick up on some of these inconsistencies, once she is more removed from the eye of the storm. I get the impression she’s kind of jumped into this, with possibly a Saviour + Super Empath kind of energy (see Contagious’ ruminations about Isla’s empathic ‘make up’).
It might be that she is/was too blind-sided by events and the tasks at hand, to have such objectivity. It’s a lot for her to handle, thinking about it. She has mentioned ‘having’ ADHD, has been romantically involved with a narcissist and had a stalker! Now she’s taking her role very seriously, but it seems a lot to shoulder for her. Not saying she’s not tough too, she clearly is, doing that job. Someone like Gran could appear to be a welcome support, or she had no reason NOT to trust he’s cool. I’d already clocked the blighter ages ago and thought, ‘Nah.’ I had to observe for a bit first and maybe Isla did not have that opportunity!
Hi Mari
If Isla is an empath (and I suspect she is), it could just be that its her addiction to narcissists thats blinding her.
I think Isla is incredibly adept. But I definitely see things that she’s missing & I think its because of her ET. Our ET will con us at ever single turn. We have to ask ourselves, am I thinking logically here.
I don’t know how much she knows about Mr. Tudor’s work. But if she could understand how our ET corrupts our thought processes, she’ll be in a much better position.
Mari,
Grannon irritates me. I don’t like the situation with Jane. One could say she was technically groomed, gaslit & coerced in that situation too. If Grannon was a decent guy, that wouldn’t have happened.
I agree, Leigh. Jane was much younger than both of them. If Grannon knew she was a ‘therapy’ patient, he would have known she was vulnerable. If he only knew her as Sam’s ‘girlfriend’, then why spend the night with her the day after Sam decides to break things off with her? Either way, his involvement with Jane at that point was sleazy and corrupt. Grannon used her in a similar way to Vaknin.
To me, Grannon’s account of everything sounded like ‘damage control’. It sounded like he was making himself look as innocent and benign as possible.
It sounds like he wants to distance himself from Sam now that more and more people are becoming aware about Sam’s abuse of victims.
Exactly, WN! In either scenario it was sleazy of Granny to do what he did to Jane.
I agree that its damage control. He is a bit more charming so maybe some are falling for it. But we know better.
I hope Mr. Tudor explains it to Isla and Granny gets his comeuppance too!
WIserNow:
I don’t know him at all but I got the same vibes. And he breaks up with his girlfriend by telling her that he is with Jane. Then he ends the relationship with Sam by secretly recording the respectable trash talk about who can have Jane as if she was a just commodity to give away. Gross.
But look at the hatred between the too. There’s got to be more at play…..
Hi Contagious,
Yes, it was extremely gross. Disgusting. I felt so sorry for Jane when I heard the recording. When she looks back at what happened to her, it will affect her whole life. I hope she’s okay.
The recording was a snapshot of what the Vaknin-Grannon partnership was actually like under the surface.
In the past, when I heard or watched snippets of their seminars where they were speaking to audiences and answering questions, especially when interacting with young women, it had sounded suggestive and suspicious to me.
I didn’t think they’d take things to such lengths though as to actually form sadistic sexual relationships and then swap women with each other. They are both horrible.
I think the hatred between the two of them is based on their business relationship. It sounds like they were in a partnership. I’d guess that Vaknin was a conniving and slippery snake who manipulated situations so that he ended up with more of the income and less of the expenses.
Considering the recording, it appears that wasn’t the first time they abused or swapped women together. Grannon planned to record Vaknin, which shows he already knew what to expect. Then, after making the incriminating recording of Vaknin, he went ahead and spent the night with Jane anyway.
He cites ‘relationship issues’ or something as part of his meagre justifications. He put himself right in it, in my opinion! He talked to her for 9 hours, starting with Starbucks then going to his hotel room. Just add alcohol? Possibly. Not cool. You’re right, a stand up fellow, especially one who’s supposedly coaching the prey of narcissists, would not even think about going there. Bonkers.
But wait! He was in SV’s enthrall! He was tired of being his bitch! So he HAD to say ‘YES’ to SV’s suggestion that he sleep with her, to show he’s not SV’s bitch. Makes sense! Not.
I agree, Mari! Its utter horse shit!
If Granny wanted to prove he wasn’t under SV’s control, wouldn’t he do the opposite of what SV wanted. Instead he did exactly what SV suggested..
I suspect there’s some sort of revision of history happening here. I’m not sure what though.
Hello Leigh:
I don’t know much about Granny lol but his part in Isla’s story was not impressive. Do you or anyone care to enlighten me? I thought he held himself out as a “ victim” and not a narcissist in his YouTube etc… I can’t be bothered to watch.
As to Isla, her passion is true crime and justice, she stumbled upon narcs. Give her time with Granny.
For me, I don’t mind my ET thinking so long as it is well directed to the right people. I love the marine saying: let my courage be greater than my intellect. I think that applies to Isla as she has worked and works round the clock. In fact I think she needs to take a break. She is one determined woman out for justice. Time will tell with Sam but I wouldn’t want Isla after me…. She is pure empath energy aimed at pure evil in my book and I hope she brings him down. There is so much evil but when Sam had his client close her eyes in therapy and he stuck his finger in his ass and smeared it on her lips…..evil, evil, evil. He is disgusting, putrid, worthless and a prisoner to be.
Oh there’s an American song on this: https://youtu.be/W5MeA68YSK0?is=BBxBSW8bRr_YfO1T
Hi Contagious,
The problem with ET is that it can blind you. Which is exactly what’s happening with Isla & Grannon. She’s being fooled by him. Her ET is blinding her to his true nature.
WN and Mari: Seem we all agree on Grannon but I probably know the least about him!
Here another opinion of mine and it’s about Sam’s childhood. Abuse story. Here is my take, Sam was an ill, he had a handicap where he could not walk well, not well liked by pers, a nerd but very very smart. He speaks of all the adoration he received at 2 from family, friends and others. He was a little prince , smothered, over protected ( placed in an playpen and he was also handicapped) in the backyard for the neighborhood to come and gawk at while he sang and recited and Sam says his mother turned on him later on and voila! so bad daily he went to hospitals several times as so horrific the abuse. My thought is the little Prince was overly adored and smothered and that is the formation of his narcissism. Nerdy kid not liked by peers becomes rock star with rock star treatment but the novelty wore off in time. The attention turned. Mom started treating Sam like a regular kid and he hated that and hated her for that plus he was still a disliked nerd but now with narcissism: arrogant, condescending, disrespectful, verbally abusive and emotionally unregulated. Hell child for mom and she probably did discipline him as they did in that day in that manner but hospital visits for broken bones? I doubt it. I think her switch from adoration to normalcy was the daily horror Sam experienced. And in those days many women cared for kids while the Dads made the money. So he hated her! Not dad who wasn’t around really. She was the reason for anything and everything that didn’t go right for the little Prince. Now if he has a psychopathic brain… there are additional issues. If so, and not traits, his test was 18 of 49 just barely off the American mark for Hare’s psychopathic test (plus we don’t know if anyone was interviewed: mom, siblings, teachers etc….only Lidje ( not credible ). I think con Sam made up his childhood severe abuse history. I think he hates his mom because she made him a little prince for years then took his crown. He said this happened: he was idolized then he wasn’t. That’s my two cents. You?
Hej Contagious, I think it’s safe to say he’s be a bona fide liar, but some kind of ‘lack of control’ environment was inevitably real. Feasible that one or both parents might have been a narcissist. He will use ‘The Truth, The Half Truth and Nowhere Near the Truth’ as it suits him at any given time.
I wouldn’t believe any of what he says, until proven. Remember also, that one psychology test on I, Psychopath, scored him higher in other pathologies, with narcissism somewhere down the scale. I don’t like to say he’s a loon for ethical and empathic reasons, but…errrm…
I heard his bit about being a child genius, performing monkey, etc. Some might be true, some exaggerated, other bits total fabrications! X
Mari! YES! I feel your unease. He has been like a giant rabid squirrel running around and I cannot take my eyes off him even though I know he is a MR narc.
I reported Sam Vaknim to YouTube and referred them to The Storyteller podcast. Sam is not a professor of psychology. His degree was allegedly from Pacific Western an online un-accredited university that closed after California pursued legal action as a diplomat mill. None of his creds stack up, there is no degree at all. Second, Isla has written evidence where he holds himself as a therapist. Sam lures women through the YouTube channel, treats them in “ therapy” claiming to be a doctor or therapist and the allegations are he abuses and rapes them. There are three official police reports in the last 5 years per Isla, the investigative journalist, I reported him as “ harm to others” based on this. If YouTube can cancel Alex Jones, it can cancel Sam Vaknim. Watch The Storyteller then report Sam Vaknim. I wrote the editor and writer at the Independent. Shame on them! You can write them too. Let’s work as a team to protect women from future harm. As you will hear, not every women has access to justice in certain countries. Criminal prosecution is possible but if YouTube cancels Sam, the risk to others is much less . Two of the three biggest advertisers for YouTube are in the US, such as Disney. Complain to them too. The email is an easy search on Google. Our US companies should not be funding people who commit crimes. Watch The Storyteller then report him. It’s free to Apple users. It’s a horror story that’s true. The Patreon has Isla’s blog where even more evidence is presented. Copies of emails and texts and she has the Meta data too to authenticate it. Isla has 1000s of documents and photos. We have been sharing stories of narcissistic abuse for years, this is real time and there are ways to help!
Hi Contagious,
I’ve reported his YouTube channel.
I’m up to Episode 17 of Isla’s podcast and it just gets worse and worse.
It’s unbelievable that this sleazy, lying, old blowhard is treated like some kind of expert. He is pathetic.
While listening to the podcast, it crossed my mind that he avoids paying tax on income he earns from therapy ‘clients’ and from the speaking events he did with Richard Grannon. It seems he always wants to be paid cash in brown paper bags. The nutty professor already has a criminal record for fraud.
It could be easier to convict him for tax evasion than for coercive control or sexual abuse. It reminds me of the gangster Al Capone who dodged arrest for serious gangster crimes and was eventually convicted for not filing his tax returns.
Yes and Isla wondered why he set up a “ foundation” recently. I said “ tax shelter.”
I am wondering about North Macedonia. Where is their regulatory psychology board in all this? Where is their “ IRS?” Has anyone reported him there.
The problem with YouTube is first party harm with evidence will be strongest. Third party is not. Also Sam has clearly lowered up and has an answer for everything although cagey and dubious.
To me the fact at 20, only 20, he was promoting his psychic abilities and developing space travel shows he is pathological whether it is pure delusion or lying or both.
I want to see him stopped.
Hi Contagious,
You have mentioned an interview of Vaknin when he was 20. Is that the one on YouTube that was on Israeli TV in 1981 that’s in Hebrew with English subtitles?
If so, I have seen the first minute or so.
The wording of the text that appears on screen in the introduction to the interview is interesting.
The text says:
“A rare television document. Twenty year old Shmuel (Sam) Vaknin is granting an interview to “Sha’ah Tova” – an Israeli TV show hosted by the late Meni Peer in 1981.”
When I read the text, the first thing that occurred to me was how extremely (but also subtly) grandiose it is.
This 20-year-old unqualified kid with huge spectacles is “granting” an interview to a national TV show? And it’s supposed to be some special and rare historical ‘document’? Seriously? How arrogant and self-aggrandising can a person get?
It made me think that Vaknin not only speaks English very well, he also uses English words in a very manipulative and self-serving way. This is subtle though, so it generally escapes detection at first glance.
By using certain words and phrases in his speech, he makes himself sound more important and more impressive than he actually is. At the same time, he reduces the importance of others. This is a subtle aspect of his speech, but it has a strong subliminal effect on listeners.
The other thing I thought was that the interview is in Hebrew with English subtitles. I wondered if the subtitles were accurate and literal translations. The interview is posted by Vaknin himself, so I wonder.
I would like to see if an independent Hebrew translator who knows the nuances and subtle meanings in Hebrew would produce the same translations.
WN: Good point, my client in Bel Air is from Israel and her good friend won an award for peace from menachim Begin. She is a spiritual leader who did a prayer for me and my client. I will try to find out.
You and HG both saw his grandiosity.
For me, it was what a con artist, snake oil salesman: mind reading? Time travel? Psychic ability “ up to 80%” I bet one of the translations is Sam beat Nostradamus in prediction accuracy.
And I noticed his same trick. Speak with confidence and in a condescending manner , promote your genius, degrees, awards, etc… and cite a bunch of dead scientists, leaders of whatever field you sell. No one will check the cites if they exist. . Offer results. All to lead to recognition, followed, money, a scam and then prison.
So Sam takes it to the financial world, he probably got in the same way but here he wasn’t wearing a tin cap sitting on a mountain getting radio waves from other galaxies…. No, Sam was young, dressed sharp. Spoke confident and condescendingly, promoted his phd in finance and economics, spoke of all the rich people he knew who he could bring in to invest, got into a position of leadership of a farmers bank then made lots of money, scammed, skimmed, lied then made more money than got greedy and inflated stock then got arrested and went to jail. He gets diagnosed a narcissist in prison. He read up on it and learned of Otto Kernberg who Sam ripped off and used all of his findings and terms with a slight tweak. Plagiarized and stole from. Watch Otto Kernberg born 1928.
Sam then Gets out, not very employable with a criminal record, his time travel mind reading biz flopped, he can’t work in finance annymore and clever Sam decides to set up narcissist support groups. Sam learned in prison about narcs especially Otto and their abuse. An aha moment. So he starts his little groups. Popular. Many abuse victims out there! He gets their money. He speaks to them with confidence and condescendingly and quotes a bunch of dead authorities to support his personal opinions ( and experiences) and then the internet arrives….he starts well.. 200,000 and voila!
His sctick or gimmick for the con has been the same.
Lesson: Don’t trust a word. Don’t give him any money. This was a man who sold mind reading, who sold worthless stock… now it’s therapy? With no license!!!! A criminal fraud is Sam, and has always been Sam.
But that is not what bothers me the most, confidence men engage in fraud for money.
No, what bothers me is the “ joke” Sam made about holes at 20 on this TV broadcast referring to women’s holes. It made the interviewer uncomfortable. There are “ 13 victims” per Isla and up to 30 in a 5 year? Short period. I think Sam has a compulsion. An obsession with women and a compulsion. I think it goes beyond narcissism. The closest I could find is paraphalia. Here’s why…. When I was at the DA, I was chosen to be on a death penalty case of a man first name “ Willie” who targeted young teenage Hispanics. He would hang around a 7 11. Groom them. Rape them and many were Catholic and too ashamed to tell their parents. It was believed he caused a suicide. My case involved a 14 year old who he raped and murdered with a steel tip boot. Her face was unidentifiable. FBI profilers were flown in to San Diego where I learned about the compulsion of serial rapists. An FBI profiler on shoes was used ( also same guy as the Kennedy rape case) to testify as to the shoe prints found. The main reason I left criminal law was this case. I kept crying over this little girl’s notebook with a heart shape with her name and Willie’s in it and thinking about her trust, her crush and what he did to her. I actually was asked to lie on the rug where she was killed as we were the same height. I held her hair, tissue samples. Too much.
Since then…. I saw Ted Bundy interviews, he could not stop this compulsion. Ted had to rape and kill even a 12 year old. Jeffrey Dahmer speaks of his compulsions that he could not control, he said he knew it was wrong but he couldn’t stop himself from raping, killing, eating and saving the heads and so on. Pedophiles have a compulsion. The key is the serial nature of it. That’s my gut instinct. Sam hates women at the core and has a compulsion to harm them and he is a sexual sadist. Sam would love to kill them, he has openly admitted it but he is too “ weak” to do so. I see his problems going far beyond narcissism with a dark twist. Isla has a profiler scheduled. I look forward to his views, I shared my concerns about his compulsion. . And I shared only one case with you at the DA. There is a compulsion behind serial rapists and killers and while I don’t see the evidence yet of the serial rapes… I see and hear Sam’s compulsive urge. Sam won’t stop until stopped and my guess he has been at it since puberty.
Hi Contagious & WN,
I reported him on YouTube too.
WN, I like your idea of getting him on tax evasion!
Apple wouldn’t play the explicit podcasts without an account so I’ve been listening on Audioboom. I didn’t even need an account on that platform.
Hi Leigh,
Thanks for your comment.
The way the ‘justice system’ works shows it’s not yet very effective when it comes to making psychological abuse a ‘crime’.
If that means that a dangerous predator is still out in public and free to con people and deliberately target vulnerable women under the guise of ‘therapy’, he should be stopped by the ‘law’ in a way that will actually stop him.
I listened to Isla’s podcast on Audioboom as well.
There are so many streaming platforms now that it’s not possible to have an account with each one every time there’s something you want to watch or listen to.
I have spread the word on social media to raise awareness about Isla’s podcast and to warn about SV. This is advertising and publicity for Isla that is also valuable.
Hi WN,
Maybe Isla needs to tip off the tax agency in Macedonia. Since victims aren’t coming forward & making police reports or civil cases, there’s not much that can be done. But I’m sure the tax agency in Macedonia will be interested in learning SV isn’t paying taxes on large sums of income.
I’m not an expert on Macedonia’s financial system, Leigh, but I’d be willing to bet there’s corruption going on in the financial and political arenas there.
It wouldn’t surprise me if the ‘professor’ has weaseled and bragged his way into the pockets of influential people – as in ‘donations’ (cough cough) being handed over.
Don’t quote me on this, because it’s just speculation.
He’s been operating for decades and getting away with what he’s doing. Going by Isla’s investigations, he won’t set foot in Israel because of his prior fraudulent activities there.
You know, one aspect has occurred to me while thinking of all this.
The person who could easily pull the pin on SV’s machinations is his wife Lidija. She is complicit in what he is doing.
Even though Lidija is his wife, she sounds more like an employee. Their partnership sounds in some ways similar to how Ghislaine Maxwell operated with Jeffrey Epstein.
Lidija is his wife, but it sounds like he withholds sex from her, while she helps him look and sound like a legitimate author and ‘expert’. Meanwhile, she’s fully involved in the ‘therapy’ as he ensnares and manipulates other women. She is his accomplice in all aspects.
If Lidija decided she had had enough, she could refuse to continue the charade with him. She may be too involved though and too compromised to do that. Plus, she is probably just as psychologically manipulated as his therapy victims.
Wouldn’t that be lovely, WN, if Lidija pulled the pin on all this.
I agree. I see her as an accomplice as well. She’s part of the whole process, and it’s gross.
That could be why she doesn’t pull the plug because she knows she’d be held accountable as well.
She’s a Lieutenant. The question is; what is she?
Mr. Tudor,
Will you be telling us where Lidija falls?
I know when we’re a lieutenant our empathy can be misplaced. Our empathy can be for the narc instead of the true victim.
Is Lidija’s empathy misplaced? I wonder if she’s narcissistic like Fergie.
Hello WN: I asked her what we could do to help.
Number One is what you are doing, getting the word out.
She is going to share exactly how to make a YouTube complaint. She liked my account of finding a seminar where he offers cold therapy services which is unorthodox, unethical as he is not a licensed professional and fraudulent. I reported there and then directed YouTube to her podcast to demonstrate “ harm to others.” This is what Isla said was brilliant and anyone can do it.
I sent her EU groups to call but she might have already had this and other legal ideas but I am not as influential as the support she has and not a European and certainly not a European lawyer. She is amazing!
As to his victims or survivors as I hate the term victim when someone lives… I think his abuse is like cancer. Anyone can be struck with it especially when vulnerable. Not everyone has HG’s education or weaponization too.
I prefer to focus on the perpetrator and would love to see him stopped before harming others 🙂
Btw the comments here have been really enlightening to me. Thank you all! Thank you HG for permitting it all:)
I mentioned HG today at the Q&A as being brilliant and a natural at forensic profiling. When she replied saying HG’s name, she smiled:)
Hi Contagious,
I really, really hope Isla goes to Mr. Tudor for advice!
Ohhh Isla and HG… as The Jam sang “ That’s entertainment.” A highly intelligent empath with a highly intelligent narc. I would love not just to see one but a series of interviews. My contagian picked up Isla has favorable intent to HG and her smile demonstrated she finds him witty- HG is hilarious! It’s nice to have a laugh when discussing serious content.
I agree Contagious! I would be very interested in seeing conversations between Isla & Mr. Tudor.
I loved his conversations with Doug & Tea with Sam. They were fun & informative.
Hello WN and Leigh:
Lidje knows. She knows. No way she is an empath or normal. I question the test results. Not sure what the test was but her behavior is non-empathetic. Plus the way she rips into Sam. She is not weak in some ways. My take and I said this at Isla’s Q&A is Lidje is like the women who write men in prison. She knows he has a bad. She likes being “ special”. The only one who can really understand him. She feeds off him for reputation, notoriety and money.
She belongs in an adjacent cell to Sam and who knows like Ghislane she might. Some of Ghislane’s victims despised her and felt she was worse than Jeffrey. I think 20 years is not enough. She is a menace to society.
I wanted to ask Ian about her but he canceled his Q&A. Sam damaged him during the film and I don’t think Ian wants to get too involved. Ian did a good job with the movie but I wish he was a trained boxer and knocked Sam out for the way he treated him. My son the Marine and trained boxer says some things are worth jail. Just know the consequences. I think Sam should have been knocked out cold.
Hi Contagious,
After listening to Ian Walker speaking with Isla in Episode 18 of Isla’s podcast, it occurred to me that Walker spent three days speaking with and filming Vaknin. He spent much more time away from Vaknin making the film and producing and releasing it, etc.
After three days of direct contact, Walker was badly affected. He had long-lasting stress. His immune system was affected and he later became seriously ill. He needed therapy and he needed to be nursed back to health by his loving and caring family.
This was after only three days (notwithstanding the time spent making and promoting the film).
It made me think how much abuse is endured over years by long-term victims of narcissistic abuse. It puts things into perspective.
Long-term victims have little choice but to develop personality changes and erosion of empathy, simply to withstand the abuse and continue surviving.
It reminds me of something I heard recently along the lines of: Nature doesn’t care how you feel, all it cares about is that you survive.
Hey Leigh:
Sam says on his Facebook that these are “old allegations that Richard Grannon used and tried to report him 60 times to YouTubewithout success and Mark Vicente can’t get a distribution deal which says it all.”
Isla indicated YouTube has strict policies, it is not going to be easy.
If the victim was American she could sue him for millions like the lawsuits against Epstein, P Diddy, and countless others and clean his clock…. But North Macedonia is not part of the 2019 Hague Convention so unless there is a treaty, this country won’t recognize a foreign judgment, probably why he doesn’t live there Sam doesn’t like Americans anyway it seems… maybe he thinks we are all packing and he is squeamish over blood!
It’s frustrating for me so I can’t imagine how Isla feels and those Sam has harmed.
Sam talks shit.
Grannon played the copyright strike card against Vaknin. He appears in many of Vaknin´s videos and a few years ago following another of their fallouts, Grannon issued copyright strikes against Vaknin which meant Vaknin was at risk of losing his channel. He pleaded (pathetic) with Grannon not to do this because his channel “was the baby he never had”.
Vicente cannot get a distribution deal owing to the involvement of Evan Rachel Wood talking about Marilyn Manson, nothing to do with Vaknin, although naturally the grandiosity of his narcissism tells him it is because of the “lies” told about him. Alternatively, they could not get a distribution deal as the distributors fell asleep listening to Vaknin droning on.
I suspected it was a liability issue – fear of being sued by Manson. I heard rumors.
And as to Sam … Sam is fascinated by shit. Called Ian shitface. Sexually fascinated with shit. And yes, he shit talks…. Yup, what was the term you taught us? Oh yes… projection:)
Hg: Sam is revolting. Isla has messages where Sam says he pees in other people’s homes versus using a toilet. Is it normal for a narc to be into bowel movements?
This man is a criminal con artist, a criminal fraud, abuses psychology regulations by not having a degree or license, by having sex with his patients, by abusing them and sexually assaulting and raping them by threatening to use their confidential therapy disclosure to expose them by engaging in despicable sexual sadistic humiliating practices and he pees in people’s homes out of contempt for humans.
I mean is their a classification for narcs fascinated with their own bowel movements.
The man must be stopped.
Where is the psychology board in Macedonia and their police? I know I need to be patient but I am not a European. I don’t understand Macedonia, not in the EU.
It is not normal for a narcissist to be “into bowel movements” it is a particular paraphilia of his which his narcissism utilises for the pursuit of the Prime Aims. You should certainly never shake hands with him as I doubt he washes his hands properly after potty time.