Psychopath : The Appreciation of Beauty
I understand beauty. I do not do so in the way that you necessarily do, for I am detached and appreciate beauty in its many forms in an intellectual fashion. Many of you often ask me, what do you feel when you listen to music, take in a view or regard a beautiful person. I shall explain this to you purely from my psychopathic perspective which is devoid of emotion, attachment or connection to enable you to understand.
The intellectual appreciation of beauty demonstrates the capacity for the human mind to discern and interpret the aesthetic qualities of the world around us. It is a thoughtful examination of the elements that evoke a sense of wonder and admiration.
When observing a captivating piece of art, listening to a haunting melody, or witnessing the breathtaking spectacle of nature, it is an emotional response that elevates your connection to beauty. It is in those moments that your hearts quicken, and an indescribable feeling washes over you, transcending mere intellectual appreciation. You may find yourselves moved to tears, your spirits uplifted, or your souls resonating with an ineffable harmony.
With art I dissect the technical aspects of a painting, analyzing the brushstrokes, color palette, and composition,
In the realm of music, the intellectual mind unravels the intricacies of melody, harmony, and rhythm, analyzing the technical prowess of the musicians involved..
Nature, with its grandeur and intricate details, beckons the viewer to marvel at its wonders. I am readily able to explain the geological formations, the intricate interplay of ecosystem components, or the scientific marvels of the natural world,. Standing amidst towering mountains, walking along a tranquil shoreline, or gazing up at a star-filled sky, you are moved by a sense of awe and interconnectedness. None of that applies to me.
The intellectual appreciation of beauty is undoubtedly valuable, as it allows us to recognize and analyze the components that make something aesthetically pleasing. It provides us with a language to communicate and share our interpretations of beauty with others.
The intellectual appreciation of beauty is an intriguing sphere that intertwines aesthetics, philosophy, psychology, and culture. It transcends beyond the immediate sensory experience and ventures into the profound understanding and interpretation of beauty, as it exists across a spectrum of contexts and categories, including nature, arts, mathematics, and even in the human form.
The concept of beauty has been of interest to philosophers since antiquity, from Plato and Aristotle to Kant and Hume. Plato, for instance, viewed beauty as an ideal Form, a perfect archetype that mortal things could aspire to emulate. Aristotle, on the other hand, saw beauty as a harmony of parts working together in unity.
In the 18th century, Immanuel Kant expounded on the intellectual appreciation of beauty in his “Critique of Judgment”. According to Kant, the judgment of beauty is subjective yet universal. It is an immediate response that does not rely on concepts, but it also demands a consensus. This paradox illustrates the complexity of beauty: it is both an individual experience and a social phenomenon.
The intellectual appreciation of beauty also extends to the realm of psychology. Evolutionary psychologists propose that our sense of beauty has roots in our survival instincts. They argue that humans are wired to appreciate certain landscapes, sounds, and forms because they once signaled the presence of resources or mates. For example, lush landscapes may be seen as beautiful because they suggest the availability of food and water.
From the perspective of cognitive psychology, the appreciation of beauty involves perceptual and cognitive processes, including pattern recognition, symmetry detection, and the processing of complexity. When viewing a beautiful painting or listening to a beautiful symphony, our minds engage in a dynamic process of analyzing and synthesizing information. The more we understand the artwork, the deeper our appreciation.
Art and beauty are deeply intertwined. Artists are often seen as creators of beauty, and their works as expressions of beauty. However, the appreciation of art requires more than a mere recognition of its beauty. It involves understanding the artist’s intent, the historical and cultural context, the symbolism and metaphors, and the techniques and materials used. The intellectual appreciation of art is a journey of discovery, a quest for meaning, a dialogue between the viewer and the artwork.
Beauty is also found in the realm of mathematics. Many mathematicians describe their work in terms of beauty, referring to the elegance of proofs, the simplicity of solutions, and the symmetry of structures. The appreciation of mathematical beauty requires a deep understanding of mathematical concepts and principles. It is a beauty that is not immediately accessible to the senses, but to the intellect.
The intellectual appreciation of beauty in the human form is another fascinating area. Throughout history, different cultures have had different standards and ideals of human beauty. These standards reflect societal values, beliefs, and norms. Understanding these standards and their implications helps appreciate human beauty in a broader and deeper sense.
My appreciation of beauty is a rich and multifaceted phenomenon. It involves not only sensory perception but also cognitive processing, , cultural understanding, and philosophical reflection. It is a testament to the complexity of the human mind and the richness of human experiences. The beauty we perceive and appreciate is a mirror of ourselves.
From my detached perspective, the appreciation of the beauty of a woman unveils a captivating realm of visual aesthetics and inherent physical intricacies. By observing and analyzing the various elements that compose a woman’s appearance, one can attain an intellectual understanding of the profound allure that lies within.
The beauty of women can be perceived through a scholarly lens, examining facial features such as symmetry, proportions, and the interplay of light and shadow. The eyes, the windows to so much, can be studied for their shape, color, and expressiveness. Likewise, the delicate curve of the nose, the gentle arch of eyebrows, and the contouring of cheekbones contribute to the overall harmony and appeal.
The aesthetic appreciation further navigates to the grace and elegance inherent in a woman’s physical form. The contours, curves, and lines that sculpt her body possess a captivating allure, playing with the interplay of proportion and harmony. The intellectual mind discerns the pleasing balance of shape and symmetry, noting the delightful rhythm that defines a woman’s physique.
There is an appreciation for the meticulous artistry involved in grooming; the deliberate choices made in hairstyle, makeup, and wardrobe unfold a visual narrative. The intellectual eye acknowledges the thought put into each detail, from the way cascading locks frame the face to the colors and textures that enhance natural beauty.
Cultural aspects also play a pivotal role in appreciating the beauty of women intellectually. The study of historical trends in fashion and societies allows for insights into the evolution of idealized standards of beauty. Understanding the influence of art, literature, and media reveals how societal expectations shape our perception of beauty and the intellectual frameworks that surround it.
Intellectual appreciation of beauty is a meditative exploration that allows one to observe, discern, and analyze the visual elements that contribute to the allure of women. This detached perspective enables a keen eye to recognize the interplay between physical attributes, proportions, and grooming practices, ultimately shaping a holistic understanding of beauty.
By divorcing the analysis from personal emotions or connections, the intellectual appreciation remains detached, purely focused on the visual aesthetics and objective qualities that define the allure of women. It enables a deeper understanding of the complexities and nuances of beauty, advancing discourse and adding to the intellectual tapestry that surrounds aesthetic appreciation.
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There’s a US Hulu mini series about a woman named Sherri Papini called “The Perfect Wife” I would love to have HG put her under the tudorscope. She faked her own abduction.
Beloved and Admired HG,
This brilliant lecture left me knocked out, before going to rest and folding the screen of the laptop adrift left it aside. It has been many thoughts surrounding the forms in which perceiving your lessons make me believe that you’re not just as HG Tudor presents himself, I know it from my narcissist mother, whom thought me the world of people alike her and her love was generous and gentle.
Difficult to know, unless you were next to her. My mother has been an inspiration to some of my characters where it enhances their power and dominance, as a good host, seducer and conquerer, specially with her slogans of ‘freedom’ and at the same time how she welcomed people to her parties/business playing with them to bring podium to her self. Only the international therapist of her generation knew whom she was, they lived in our house hold when the would have their events. Everything was perfect and she, of ultimate beauty, with age she mirrored the pride of her daughters, me and my sister, with it my sister for her beauty.
There a debate in me about you HG, it hurts my heart to listen to you, is understandable coming from a magical thinking (I guess) or wishing to know whom is behind, creating intrigue as a listener whom has formed a dialogue, between laughters and sorrows to your daily speech. We grow as listeners in the time frame, could imagine many as me behind, dropping the chains of the past in which I find myself sustained by bonding to hear you once again.
Reading this master peace, because there is beauty on those whom appreciate the beauty of every nature and creation, found myself comforted. To me there is nothing more beautiful than Royalty, it’s more than the shine and that’s too represents a shield of protection and admiration, yet it provides ‘the enlightenment of the village’, from time to time, revealing new stories and learnings to human kind with the pass of the years. Those whom would aspire to the best would grow with a symbolic unity to direct themselves, in fact the whole collective celebrates it beyond reason. I could hear it in the chattery around the Royal Family, in this times specially more with the learned works of the British people with the bridge of the media with the people.
Characters are very beautiful as well, monster too, I guess for each person as you describe there is beauty in the symmetry. They’re able to describe as they become catalysts and experts of their own profession. You’re very beautiful HG, you made everything I would have wish to have respond in the uncertainty of infinite ‘whys’, in the pain that revolves me from ancestral memory, in the incisive and exact timing where you perpetuate your work, how you practice your voice enchanting as with a magic flute every ear, disliking too the inner narcissist we have hidden, this traits are so toxic as easily camouflaged and you must have so much love around you ‘to be as you wish’, having to pick not just the healing with the medicine and observation, but also the interpretation in first person of those wounding mechanisms.
May you and yours be always in harmony with the world for the constant shares you grant to the audience and with this drop into the oceanic motion of yours immersing in so many verses you provide the gratitude to return to such dynamics and,… so on, so furthering.
Was knocked by the gentleness and subtle appearance your good side provides, such as mother does, this was my inner argument, among the humours you provide and various angles, ugliness can also be a mask to portray respect. Is not really ugliness but a wear beauty, it reflects the nature of the other, the average reality of the ground that nears without distance or comparisons. This is why my sister never got the best boyfriends, they would tell me that. She was isolated in her own beauty, distant. No one overprotected her, she just had another mask than my mask, we both played pivotal roles to my mother and she would always tell me in secret. “You have a very good taste, because you look in the other’s beauty. The lucky of the ugly the pretty desires”, I would tell my mother as my father would to her until his last days beautiful praises to my mother, even in the middle of an argument. “I rather look at your beautiful blue eyes than having blue eyes myself, because I get to enjoy them more than you do, mom”.
My sister would also say beautiful things to my mother, as she is older her beauty prevails. The marks of tiredness, and suffering hours or effort in my sister have changed her, she dislikes as much as I do having lost the material goods, my imaginary world rescued me to see the beauty where in our past social status were thought to not see it.
Anyways, whatsoever it might be created by human kind and nature it self, stories are beautiful too. Thank you for the narratives. In every verse of the construct to the cover and constitution of our narcissistic design, thank you.
To disagree would say, every pretty and ugly is a mask being played well by twins whom are twisted by the changing chapters and would always remain sisters by the love of her mom, (sorry my mom is having Alzheimer and my sis told me this week she would be going in some time), for being the first comment has been quite moving.
No one knocks me down HG, was battling in a matching boxing time/space as your movement made me surrender into an other sequence where, I’m fascinated by your facility to enchant. That kind of power is very magnetic in every fibber you portray, you’re universally the highest culture source I’ve ever gave words to.
Sincerely yours, among.
How do you feel when you pet dogs or cats?
There is a feeling of wanting to squeeze a dog hard if the oxytocin levels get too high,dogs can Yelp in pain sometimes because that happens to them. Have you ever felt anything like that?
Or do you think you have no oxytocin?
I don’t.
Thanks for answering.
I assume your one answer applies to all three questions.
It shows how pointless my dealings were with female narcs
Trev, there is a lot of good, decent female fish in the sea. Don’t give up. You will meet a good un’.
Best,
DB
Thanks, I find it difficult to talk to women I barely know… and narcissist women make it easy by doing all the talking:)
But I think it’s worth the effort of ignoring them from now on.
Interesting that you describe only the beauty of women when it comes to human beings. Being a heterosexual woman I can see the outer and the inner beauty of a man but also of a woman. And the beauty of the young (children) and the old (which is much more rare). And animals. Everything that is alive …
HG, what about sweetness? Can you see the sweetness in a human being?
And what about the beauty of a voice, of a smell, of a taste and of a touch?
And the beauty of a feeling?
No.
I recognise those, I just did not touch on everything in this piece.
That’s a great question Grace.
HG I have a question, is beauty a priority in your day to day life?
For example, when choosing a gym would you be okay with a regular gym, you go in there, you workout, you leave, as long as it gets the job done. Or would you choose a gym based on aesthetics because you feel it reflects better on you?
Or is that more a somatic thing?
I guess what I mean is when making decisions are you more often prioritising beauty over other things, like value for money, practicality
Or it must have all 3? You won’t sacrifice one over the other?
Also I have another question… do you believe (or know) as you may say that everyone fancies you, everyone is attracted to you and everyone wants to be around you. Or would you accept that some people don’t, even if they are a small minority?
Beauty is important to me but it can be overridden where I deem it necessary. I prefer to have it, but it is not essential in certain situations.
Thank you for this glimpse, HG. I’m realizing I was very locked into my own views, especially that my emotion-laden responses to beauty were the correct endpoint of appreciation. This is such a new experience and I’m fascinated to learn more about your world.
You are welcome.
HG, do you think your amorality contributes to your willingness to destroy someone or something beautiful, if it suits your purpose? I remembered a famous Nietzsche quote, “If you crush a cockroach, you’re a hero. If you crush a beautiful butterfly, you’re a villain. Morals have aesthetic criteria.”
Beauty is a perspective.
Again, another very interesting and thought-provoking post. Thank you for elaborating on your perspectives about beauty, HG.
One thing that this post made me see is that it reveals a lot about how you think. Your appreciation of beauty is intellectual, detached, purely focused on visual aesthetics and objective aspects. To me, that is equivalent to your appreciation being ‘rational’ or even one-dimensional. It is practical and factual, based on the concrete, real and quantitative.
You list beauty in terms of: art, music, natural landscapes, mathematics, and lastly, women. Women are included in this set of inanimate ‘objects’. The physical human form of women is evaluated as if it is an outer shell or sculpture.
The ‘rationality’ of your appreciation of beauty reminds me of something in astrology (…bear with me here and please keep an open mind).
In astrology, each planet has a function and each starsign has a quality. When a planet is in a particular sign, the planet’s function can be:
– in it’s domicile (which means that the planet’s function is comfortable or at home in the sign)
– in its exaltation (the planet’s function is promoted or helped in the sign)
– in its detriment (the planet’s function has difficulty existing in the sign)
– in its fall (the planet’s function is different from the sign).
The planet Venus is said to have the function of: love, romance, beauty, art, comfort, indulgence, pleasure, ease, material wealth and riches. The position of Venus in a person’s birth-chart describes how the person expresses their desires, passions, what they value and how they relate to and experience beauty and pleasure.
If a person’s birth-chart has Venus in the sign of Virgo, it is said that this position of Venus means the planet is in its fall in the person’s chart. This is because Virgo as a sign has the quality of being logical, pragmatic, systematic and rational. Mercury is in its domicile in Virgo and Mercury’s function is to be scientific rather than aesthetic. Mercury is concerned with the mind, with structure and order, while Venus is concerned with the heart, with pleasure and aestheticism.
Venus still has a place in Virgo though. In Virgo, the function of Venus ‘blends’ with the rationality that is the quality of Virgo.
(You are probably rolling your eyes at this point…)
Without boring you to tears (which would be impossible anyway), your ‘rational’ and intellectual approach to beauty made me think of your Sun sign being Virgo and how that affects your thinking with regard to beauty. I would hazard a guess that Venus, Mercury and the Sun in your birth-chart have some interesting aspects (or relationships).
You’ll be delighted by a future article which addresses astrology.
Can’t wait to read your article on astrology. It may not turn out to be the case, but I am imagining it in the highly entertaining HG Mauls series format. However it is presented, it is sure to be enlightening.
An article about astrology would definitely interest me, HG. I look forward to it.
The stars do not lie. They are silent. Fun times ahead!
I would think that you’re going to maul astrology.
I looked into it myself and found that Gemini’s are often talkative and are often really into tennis. I noticed other correlations with other starsigns.
As I converted to Christianity I have to leave it behind as its supposed to be of the devil.
I’m not a Gemini and I’m not into tennis. Checks out.
Hahaha
Dear Trev,
I view astrology as a bit of lighthearted fun, that’s all!
The devil is juggling with newer advancements eg AI and TikTok haha
HG,
I can’t wait to read your opinion and view of astrology. I’m sure it’ll be entertaining and educational. Xx
If you validate astrology, I will be floored.
You can remain standing.
It’s odd but as a contagion who was married to a psychopath for many years, and I think truly gets it. But when married, or listening to your you tube or meeting another, yes the hairs on my back raise, yes I fell fear and disgust, but I also keep hearing the thump thump thump of a machine in a hospital calling them dead. I always hear this sound. Maybe it’s my creative mind? Or? I will never know. But I know psychopaths are driven by one heart beat, which is what they want, what they want, what they want. It has the same tempo of a person flatlining. That’s what I hear every time! That flat sound over and over and over and over. I must admit I have met very few. And when I first spoke to you, it was more like a freezing cold breeze. Like my dream about the murder of my best friend. I woke up freezing and screaming. Praying to God to never let me experience that again. Same An Arctic wind. Different than my ex husbands dum dum dum. Sex was pre-functionally like mating a zombie. It was neither bad nor good. Our time together was the same almost. Calm
With me not knowing his criminal doings or affairs. I guess I was focused on the kids. But that feeling of being with someone gliding on ice until I broke that glide then he came alive. I interfered with his goal. Then the beast awakes
Astrology is not only about zodiac signs.
Someone probably added the “logy” prefix a bit exaggeratedly 🙂
I have a feeling, that HG’s article wouldn’t necessarily go in the direction you expect 🙂
I would read it with interest.
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Women in my family (6 individuals) – only horns, claws and stingers, ha ha ha 🙂
Joa,
Your views about astrology are interesting. Thank you for taking the time to express them.
It makes me think of Saltanat Nukenova, the Kazakh woman who was brutally murdered by her husband, Kuandyk Bishimbayev, an ex-minister in the Kazakhstan government.
Saltanat was an astrologer and worked as one, independently providing people with astrological readings. She dreamed of opening her own school of astrology.
In previous comments on the blog, I have mentioned several times that astrology is not meant to be used to give predictions with pinpoint accuracy. It is not meant to be an exact science.
Then again, not even ‘science’ is an exact science. There are things that even science gets wrong.
In the case of Saltanat Nukenova, she was born on 15 May, 1992. This means her Sun was in Taurus. The Sun represents the outer personality that ‘shines’ and is seen by other people. Like the Sun, it is the part of the personality that is projected outwards. It is associated with the ego, in that the Sun represents the Self and symbolises a person’s will and sense of vitality.
Taurus is ruled by the planet Venus. Venus symbolises feminine energy, beauty, artistry, creativity, and sensuality. Taurus is also a fixed earth sign, which means that it values stability, loyalty, and practicality. It can also be stubborn, inflexible, materialistic and possessive.
Each sign and each planet has both good and bad traits. Knowledge of these traits enables a person to use their own will to balance the good and bad traits in their own personality.
In the case of Saltanat’s husband and murderer, he was born on 11 April, 1980. His Sun is in Aries, and Aries is ruled by the planet Mars. In astrology, the planet Mars symbolises energy, action, desire, drive and sexuality. In Aries, Mars is said to have an immature energy in which those born with their Sun in Aries can jump first and think later. They are impetuous and self-serving if this Mars energy is not tempered by other planets in their birth chart.
Aries is also a cardinal fire sign. Cardinal in this sense means that the outward personality of the person with Sun in Aries shows someone who is good at starting or initiating actions or projects. Their energy is to begin new endeavours, whereas they may not have the ‘fixed’ energy to stick at the endeavours they start. Fire as the element in a person’s Sun sign means the outward personality is seen as bold, brash and daring with a hot temper.
Again, there are good and bad traits associated with each sign, planet and modality. The point in knowing these traits is to use them judiciously and understand your own self and how to modify your actions and behaviour.
It is not an exact science, nor is it meant to predict exactly what will happen.
It’s interesting to me, though, that you and others found it important enough to find the time to laugh at astrology.
Yet, the brutal and horrific beating and murder of a woman over the course of 24 hours at the hands of her husband is not considered important enough to mention.
Thanks again for your comment, Joa.
Hi Wiser!
And how can you not believe in astrology/fate? My zodiac sign is Taurus. Out of millions of people, you chose the example of a woman and described my zodiac sign 🙂
And now seriously. I never delved deeply into the arcana of astrology, because I didn’t want to. I reject the idea, that my personality and decisions are determined by cosmic factors – even to some extent.
The first argument, that turns me off from astrology is date of birth. Most people assume, that this is the date they entered the world. For me, it is just a conventional date, introduced instead of the actual date – which is sometimes difficult to determine. The date of birth is only the date of passage through the woman’s birth canal.
But actually, you come into this world a few months earlier. You are. Face down. Hidden. But you’re already here. You exist. You are developing.
The date of conception is the date of the extraordinary miracle of connection, accumulation of energy and creation of the spark of life in ordinary body cells. This is a magical date. Perhaps if astrology was based on this date, I would delve into its secrets with a pleasure close to fixation.
An incorrect starting assumption – for me, invalidates the whole thing.
Argument 2 – a long time ago, my professional work included, among others: in cooperation with an astrologer. I will write briefly – it was fiction.
Wiser, I’m sorry I ignored the death of the woman you mentioned. I haven’t heard of her. People are being murdered all the time, including now, at this very moment. I try to avoid the topic of murders. I stay away from them. I go too deep – and I feel it.
I can’t do this to myself, I’m sorry.
Joa,
If your Sun is in Taurus… well, there’s some truth in astrology that I can see 🙂
Seriously though, you say you haven’t delved deeply into astrology. This tells me you have concrete views and make lasting decisions about things you have not really studied in depth nor have any interest in doing so.
That’s ok – it’s totally your decision and your right to do that.
About the murder of Saltanat Nukenova… there’s lots of information available if you do a google search or look on YouTube. The case has been discussed here on the blog too.
It’s an extreme case of violence in a marriage. In Kazakhstan where it happened, it has revealed the cultural and legal conditions that make it very difficult for women in such marriages. It’s especially relevant in relation to narcissism.
Joa,
Speaking of Taurus, I think it’s interesting that Prince Harry’s birth chart shows that the Moon was in Taurus in his 4th house at the time of his birth.
This probably means very little to you seeing that you have not delved deeply into astrology.
What it means to me is that the Moon represents Harry’s inner world – his emotions, instincts, intuition and imagination. The part of Harry that the world doesn’t see – unless he lets the world see by describing and explaining it to them. Even then, the outside world can’t truly feel it and perceive it in exactly the same way.
Harry’s Moon is in Taurus, which means – to me – that his inner world generally remains fixed and stable and he does not find it easy to change his emotions and intuitive reactions.
Taurus, being ruled by Venus, ‘colours’ his inner world with the hues of Taurus (a fixed Earth sign) and Venus, the sign of beauty, ease and sensuality. Harry values both stability and sensuality. He prefers ease and enjoys the pleasures of the senses. At the same time, he is stubborn with regard to his inner instincts and preferences.
Taurus is in the 4th house of Harry’s birth chart, the house that represents home, family, a person’s roots and a person’s mother – or the parent who was the closest representation of a mother figure.
Joa,
You may be thinking this is all make-believe, and you are totally free to think that. Please bear with me because, for Harry, it starts to get interesting when you consider that Uranus has been transiting Taurus in the past few years.
Uranus is an outer planet. In astrology, this means that the planet’s transit is relatively slow and it impacts a larger group of people in similar ways at the same time.
In astrology, Uranus symbolises sudden explosive change, innovation, inventiveness, going against the flow, being independent, new horizons and breaking through traditions and conformity.
Uranus transits each sign for a period of about seven years. Currently, Uranus is transiting Taurus. It entered Taurus in March, 2019 and it will leave Taurus in July, 2025.
Now, for Harry, whose natal (meaning birth position) Moon is in Taurus, the current transit of Uranus in Taurus means that Uranus is transiting Harry’s natal 4th house and will be conjunct Harry’s Moon – *precisely during his marriage to TOW*.
I would interpret this to mean that Harry is currently experiencing independence and new horizons when it comes to his family life, and also his emotions and intuition. It is happening as a result of a profound break with tradition and conformity **when it comes to his family life and also inner world**.
The way I see it, Uranus currently transiting Taurus will be conjunct with Harry’s natal Moon, his inner life. The Moon is a personal planet, in that the effects of a transit that aspects a personal planet are felt more keenly by the individual.
Harry’s inner world – his emotions and intuition – is undergoing profound change at this time. The exact conjunction – at 21 degrees of Taurus – is when Harry’s natal moon was exactly conjunct with transiting Uranus. This occurred on April 20 or 21, 2024.
Looking back at HG’s YouTube videos, this is about the time that TOW had sent out the 50 jars of jam to selected recipients. It was also the time when the two were preparing to set off for Nigeria.
At that point in time, according to astrology (and remember it is not meant to be an exact prediction), the conditions were ripe for Harry to experience a change in his emotional world in a way that changed his thinking in an explosive and innovative way with regard to his family life. Seeing that his Moon is in Taurus – a fixed sign – this kind of change does not occur easily or smoothly for Harry.
Also, considering that Uranus is going to be in Taurus until July, 2025, I would say that Harry’s inner emotional life with regard to his home life will complete the transition at around this time.
This is not a prediction or something that is definitely going to happen. It all depends on Harry and his own decisions.
But it’s interesting though, don’t you think?
What does it mean when TOW tells Harry “the finger of love has entered Uranus”?
Wiser, I’m really bad at this, I didn’t understand much. You have to forgive me 🙂
I strongly deny it. I don’t look like Harry! 🙂
I like it, when someone speaks or writes with passion – regardless of the topic – I liked that, Wiser.
…and another thing… for the sake of accuracy which I know is ‘sometimes’ important to you…
Uranus is a planet. In astrology, a planet cannot be entered. A sign or a house can be entered. A sign or house is a relatively stationary area, position or component in the heavens and in astrology.
A planet is a moving object that transits either signs or houses. It can be ‘aspected’ with other planets or with positions in the zodiac. It cannot be ‘entered’.
By the way, did you know that habitual viewing of porn changes a person’s brain?
This is scientifically proven.
Scientific research has found that habitual use of porn leads to depression; lack of satisfaction from normal sex; and it erodes the functioning and effectiveness of the prefrontal cortex. The prefrontal cortex is the part of the brain which controls executive function. It regulates our thoughts, actions and emotions.
I learned this from reading. I did not learn this from astrology.
Although…
Astrology does promote a conscious understanding of the importance of self-knowledge and understanding. The overall point of astrology is to better understand how certain behaviours can harm a person’s life if action is not taken to modify them.
“What does it mean when TOW tells Harry “the finger of love has entered Uranus”?”
(Begging your pardon in advance for mangling your language.)
Maybe it means Aries playing Gemini cricket with TOW. He CancerLibrate having his Leo tarred as much as he wants, Virgoing to keep our distance. She almost Taurus apart, but now Pisces straight through her.
It’s ok, Joa, you’re forgiven 🙂
We are all here learning about various things in different ways. It’s a great place to do that.
Very clever, AP! Your comment made me laugh.
Joa says “Someone probably added the “logy” prefix a bit exaggeratedly” – brilliant, made me laugh! Yes “ology” has also been used a lot too. Such is the ology of life 😉
HG :
As I watch your series today on emotional battles, I am reminded how helpful you have been. Happy US Fathers Day! Like a father, you helped educate and guide me through the emotional seas. For me, my parents aren’t narcs, my earlier relationship save one and he was ASPD not a narc, were with normals and empaths. Most of my family and its big are either highly empathetic or normal. My friendships the same. So to find myself encountering my first narc and marrying him, it was an eye opener. For example, the first silent treatment. I thought he was dead or injured somewhere, when I learned he just left without paying bills or an explanation and found out he just went to his mums, I was horrified. I blamed alcohol for his various behaviors but he quit for me. Turned to pot:( but he continued to hurt me and bewilder me. I searched and found you. I have secure attachments and a full life which helped but without you… I would never have understood. It helped me make intelligent choices and we are not together. I feel sorry for him due to his bad childhood unlike mine but I won’t let him hurt me. I am not controllable so that helped too but I am compassionate and wish him well regardless. Thank you dear HG! Forever a follower, a fan and a supporter of your great works! Plus you are funny and intelligent and entertaining as hell! lol my Orson Wells at the end of the day;)
You are welcome.
Hi HG:
I am watching a Netflix movie about people who can’t communicate. Some with cerebral palsy. It made me think of disabilities. I don’t see narcissists caring about improving the lives of those born with challenges greater than ourselves and I find that sad as everything points to a more narcissistic society. I will give a fitting example. One of my friends of 30 years is mentally challenged. She once told me she hates the word retardation as she was called a retard much of her youth and everyone has something special about them. Just because she can’t do math doesn’t mean she isn’t better in other things. We were at the Ocean avenue, we live in the same town, she comes from rich parents and walks dogs and watches pets. One of her clients was Diane Keaten’s mother. My friend knew them both but fame never registers for her only people whether they are good or not. Well, the head of PIMCO, bought Diane’s mother’s property as well as 7 others. He is a billionaire. This man’s dog ran up and he introduced himself as Bill. I shook his hand and said hello. I asked who Bill was to my friend and when she gave the last name, I gasped as he was on the cover of the LA Times as the owner of the largest global investment company in the world. I knew Bill lived on an island in my town with two other billionaires. I told my friend this. Her reply, “ well his dog is nice but he is a jerk.” And so in one sentence my friend brought equality to man. Who is to decide the hierarchy? The winners and the losers money wise? My friend is rich but lower in intelligence than average. Study after study shows that happiness is quite equal unless very poor where food and shelter are an issue. It’s mostly dependent on relationships. Life goes by fast. Then there is the after. But moreover where would disabled people live in a world of narcissism. ? Would it be like with Hitler? And narcissism itself is a mental health disorder arising from genetics and yes adverse childhood conditions. But how can we allow narcissism to arise when other genetic equally important “ less normal” whatever that is people exist. When I was in law school a friend of mine could not walk and she came to every party I held in her wheel chair drinking and flirting and fitting in with everyone else. One day she thanked me for inclusion. I was surprised. She said no one else gave her invites. I recall at the time being shocked as she was amazing but it dawned at me people then that people can be so small minded. Would a narc invite a disabled person to a party without a motive? HG helps everyone in this forum and no doubt disabled or not, he would not care. BUT my point is narcissism in general is selfish. And yes, not their fault. BUT we must ask ourselves what kind of a world do we want to be in. One of inclusivity and community? This is not a woke speech. It stretches to all mankind. Just a tiny message to think about…I did watching this series. I thought wow, there are people just as smart as me and until the 80s they could not speak. Wow.
Hello HG:
I have read various psychologists reports now on the development of narcissism and it arising from a non-nourishing mother ( to use my terms) and genetics and you seem to agree that an adverse child hood experience or unstable environment creates narcissism plus genetic predisposition. And a grandiose narc is someone who sounds like a greater who picks a false self that is perfect as it mirrors what the mother wants in early childhood. Perfection to reflect her. An extension of self. So it is a defense to please her it seems this false creation established then at least in part. This false self goes on to adulthood in that each person in the narcs life is to reinforce this defense, validate or appreciate this false creation of self. But what interests me is narcs are also defiant.
1. Are you capable of making a choice that would displease your mother’s idealized image of what you should be? Such as I don’t know…. Marrying beneath you?
2. In adulthood does your mother’s standards for you still matter or could you not give a toss what she thinks?
3. Have you ever chosen a partner who is just like your mother?
4. What was the result?
5. Do you think as an ultra you are free from childhood adverse experiences or what you would define as an unstable environment?
6. How so?
7. Why can’t other narcs then?
1. Yes.
2. I do not care for what she thinks.
3. No, I do not have narcissists as the IPPS.
4. N/a
5. I am a product of my childhood.
6. N/A
7. Narcissists are a product of their childhoods.
Great show with Sue Smith!
Thank you.
Hi HG: you read about narcs being 50/50 men and women and your videos are very diligent in this. I researched using Chat AI. It says 80-90 percent of ASPD is male. 90-98% of pedophiles, murderers and rapists. Wow. Now women are usually the primary caretaker that with genetics creates these men so we don’t get a pass but wow. What’s your take? Testosterone?
HG and Contagious,
The ‘HG in Conversation with’ series on YouTube is excellent. Each participant offers unique perspectives and ideas.
Going by the interest and creativity shown by viewers with regard to the forthcoming ‘HG does This Or That’, I think the conversations are enjoyed by many.
Well done, HG!
Wisernow:
Hello and good to see you:) Sadly I don’t know much about astrology. I never delved into the subject. I just thought it interesting that some famous scientists followed it 🙂 But for fun, I saw an astrologist with a girlfriend eons ago. I knew I was a Scorpio and it fits from what I read. But when I gave him details of time, date and place of birth ( City and State and Country ) etc… and other details I can’t recall….He gave me a large chart and it was Scorpio (Sun: core self, ego, identity) , Scorpio ( Moon: emotional self) Scorpio – closely bordered by Sagittarius ( Rising: how you present yourself). He said that this meant I was intense, deep, mysterious , enigmatic and a witch! I am a witch in a ditch! lol I don’t know how astrology would fit into narcissism. I am very intuitive and perceptive but it didn’t stop me from marrying a Narc. With that being said, my family has none, my friends are not ( only one who I am no longer friends with for 20 years now) and my romantic partners are not. But one narc is enough!!! HG helped of course with my one indelible ex and Narc. lol Are you knowledgeable? Do you think it correlates with narcissism or those challenged by them. Hope all is well. X
Joa says “The date of conception is the date of the extraordinary miracle of connection, accumulation of energy and creation of the spark of life in ordinary body cells. This is a magical date. Perhaps if astrology was based on this date, I would delve into its secrets with a pleasure close to fixation”
The Chinese use the date of conception when they compile & construct a person’s life chart – they also use the natural elements (air, water, earth, metal & fire) instead of the planets as used in Western astrology.
Apologies & thank you, HG (not a subject related to narcissism, however, I now wonder whether my past interests in both astrological subjects were part of my ‘quest’ for understanding when it was actually your work where the answers lay). Thank you xx
Asp Amp, Wiser Now and Joa:
I find astrology fascinating. WiserNow you know a lot and Joa you poetically write about conception. I must admit that I had my charts done and it bothered me as I was Scorpio, Scorpio and Scorpio very bordered by Sagittarius. A triangle of scorpions- ugh! It seemed unbalanced. Not fair. So personally I felt this can’t be right. But there are scientists who felt so and they were logical.
While astrology and modern science are distinct fields, historically, several notable scientists were interested in astrology. Here are a few examples:
1. **Johannes Kepler (1571-1630)**: Renowned for his laws of planetary motion, Kepler also practiced astrology, which was common during his time. He even served as an astrologer for the Holy Roman Emperor and wrote horoscopes.
2. **Isaac Newton (1643-1727)**: Although there’s no direct evidence that Newton practiced astrology, he studied alchemy and was intrigued by mystical and metaphysical topics, which were often intertwined with astrological concepts during his era.
3. **Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)**: Known for his contributions to astronomy and physics, Galileo also cast horoscopes. His scientific work, however, laid the groundwork for separating astronomy from astrology.
4. **Tycho Brahe (1546-1601)**: A prominent astronomer whose accurate astronomical observations were essential for the later work of Kepler. Brahe also practiced astrology and was known for casting horoscopes for royalty.
5. **Paracelsus (1493-1541)**: A physician and alchemist who integrated astrology into his medical practice. He believed that celestial bodies influenced human health and illness.
These individuals lived during times when astrology was a legitimate field of study.
Are narcs influenced by their time of birth, place? Empaths? HG does not believe. I am open reluctantly due to my bad chart:(
Asp Amp, it’s a bit strange, that people from the same age are the same sign = they show similarity.
I am the Dragon.
Uranus in Taurus (as Wiser informed me) and the year of the Dragon.
Wow! It’s my time! 🙂
PS My daughter checked the Chinese horoscope with me – she is disconsolate, that she is a Rooster and I am a Dragon, pfff 🙂
Through this conversation, I discovered that the world of horoscopes is much larger than I thought. Indian, numerological, floral, etc., etc.
Joa, I was introduced to astrology as a very young teenager via a book gifted to me. It was when I got older and found ‘paths’ that led to finding out more than just one in the field of astrology (as you seem to have done). Interesting to read what others say as they are sharing their perceptions / their understandings of what they see. Some may be theories, some are mathematics, some is science. Considering that our empath make-up may also reflect our subject interests. Good to read that you & your daughter have been doing some exploration into this subject 🙂
Contagious,
Your comment is very interesting.
As you say, Astrology and modern science are two distinct fields. That being the case, the two can still be studied and contemplated simultaneously.
To believe that one automatically negates the other is black and white thinking; or may indicate a personal opinion formed in a particular way.
As for you having your charts done and being “Scorpio, Scorpio and Scorpio very bordered by Sagittarius”, could you please elaborate? … only if you would like to.
HG, I have the greatest respect for you and you are an incredible writer. Your articles are excellent. You are a very intelligent man and from a logical perspective your point of view of things is quite wise. But I have to say, and please don’t take offence, but you are a psychopath, do I believe that you look at things like this for real, perhaps in relation to an appreciation of art and scenic mountainous views, yes, but in relation to women, I have my doubts. For a man whose main concern is supply, let us be honest, you don’t give a jot about the above in reference to women. The piece is superbly written, your logical approach and though provoking phraseology would have any unsuspecting female or male, literally lapping at your feet and swooning, but to the trained eye and more importantly, an avid and loyal reader of your work, when you are admiring a woman, the above is completely irrelevant. Yes, you can stand and admire a beautiful woman, and to everyone else in the room you are just standing there admiring, to the wise and awake, you are assessing how easy it will be to ensnare. It is all about the game. You choose a woman based on the three prime aims, not on the texture of the hair and the way it frames the face, you choose supply based on neediness and a few other things, an easy supply, it doesn’t matter whether the supply has long or short hair, whether her hair is blonde, redhead, brunette, as long as she goes with the flow and meets the three prime aims, she will qualify as supply. To a certain degree, I am sure you have your likes and dislikes when it comes to the SO, but realistically and logically, if the SO or IPPS is not meeting all requisite standards – aka the three prime aims – said SO or IPPS is viewed as no longer up to scratch and is out. New SO or IPPS is in the wings and is ready to take over. I am not trying to be facetious, absolutely not, and as someone previously referred to me as ‘poking the bear’, I am not trying to do that either, absolutely not, far from it. But in keeping it real, for you, everything has a means to an end. You are strongly oriented around getting your important needs met. There is nothing wrong with that. That is who you are. The above article is superbly written, but it is also wise to view it from the perspective of an audience member watching an actor. The actor performs his part and exits stage left. HG has given a masterclass in the power of seduction through words. How ET can be powerfully persuaded and heightened through words. As HG always says LT is very important and to apply LT to everything that you do.
I am probably going to be criticised for what I have said, but in all honesty, I have not insulted HG nor am I trying to provoke HG, I have great respect for HG and his incredible work ethic. I have read the article and these are my thoughts based on what I felt after reading the article and what I know of HG.
Best,
DB
Read the title of the article, there’s a huge clue there. It is that perspective which is being exhibited. You are largely correct with regard to the assessment process of whether a person would be ensnared, that it the narcissist perspective, but I am conveying here the psychopathic perspective.
HG,
With regard to the psychopathic perspective, how does your appreciation for beauty co-exist with you relishing torture or destruction? If you appreciate the beauty of a woman, would you still relish torturing her or inflicting pain upon her?
Is it possible for you to appreciate something while destroying it at the same time?
Do you become bored with beauty even though you once appreciated it?
How do you distinguish between ‘appreciation’ and ‘caring’?
Easily.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
One is intellectual the other involves emotional empathy.
Thank you for your answers, HG.
We can all easily and regularly “appreciate something while destroying it at the same time”. It happens every time you eat a plant or animal you “appreciate” or care about.
Yes, AP, that’s true.
Although, when considering how a narcissist or psychopath uses and ‘destroys’ other people without empathy or remorse (either physically, emotionally, psychologically), the concept is different.
On a side note.
Whenever a plant and an animal are given the same status of ’alive’ – it reminds me of how Native Americans were denied the status of humans in order to justify the taking of their land. They were given an animal status — absence of a soul, feelings, intelligence, awareness, rights — for very long time until they were almost extinct and granted a human-status much later down the line.
Animals are not fruits or vegetables and there can’t be a beauty of appreciation in consuming of animals. Whenever people with empathy KNOW how nowadays meat industry treat animals and continue to justify their menu habit by for instance putting an animal and a plant in the same category; ignoring animal’s pain and deny them aliveness, awareness, intelligence, feelings — it is done within an absent emotional empathy and/or by ignorance, occasionally justified by a certain diet-propaganda, scientific meat-industry organised belief and/or food-habit.
You would not come up with the idea of killing your pet, your cat or your dog for their meat or fur, if you posses emotional empathy and sanity.
If you have empathy – should you ever spend your time, for instance with a free range living-, or in a permaculture integrated animals such as cow, goat, sheep, pig, chicken etc. and connect with them on the level of your pet and realise that those animals are as intelligent and as affectionate as your dog or your cat – it will become impossible for you to imagine to eat those animals!
Cow, sheep and goat give you milk, from which you can make products like cheese, butter, cream. Chicken can give you (unfertilized) eggs. Only THIS is akin to a tree which gives you fruit. If you want a comparison, the only one is: you don’t kill a fruit tree in order to harvest the fruits, would make you look stupid wouldn’t it. Yet humanity managed to overbreed and overpopulate livestock animals and make animals suffer for human’s own stupidity.
Not to mention China’s sadistic eating habits where cats and dogs are apples too.
If you’re an animal eater, I beg you at least to purchase from those who provide more humane life and death to your menu. It would be better for your health as well if those animals don’t receive hormones, genetic modifications and pharmacy for their illnesses, based on the cruel and sadistic livestock farming. More sensible farmers understand the crux and change things. You buy from them, please🙏
The paragraph about mathematics was interesting. I took pride in my book-keeping skills, the fact that I viewed the creation of my spreadsheets as a piece of art because they produced balance. In the books. It did mean less wages for the Accountant yet it freed up their time for other ‘pipelines’ of work.
My skills in the field of understanding retail book-keeping were utilised when I applied this in evidence & facts, repeatedly, in several locations. 5 to 6 sources of evidence giving them a repeated pattern to build & create their own computerised system as a link to their overall network of transactional communications. Of stock movements. Including people ‘tracking’.
Ah, I’m talking bollocks……
I have an appreciation for the beauty of a well-crafted spreadsheet. Don’t even get me started on the satisfaction of a balanced bank statement!
MB you dirty pervert.
I think that may be another page turner, HG.
With you on that MB! A thing of true beauty!
Forget about the chocolate cake baking, HG. It seems debits and credits get some us all hot and bothered! Imagine…seduction by pivot table. Ha ha
I just know you’re dying for some double entry
Book keeping.
You know me so well!
MB,
It sounds like you want to get your hands on HG’s ‘assets’….
Just be careful. You don’t want your own assets to depreciate instead of appreciate. It could turn into a liability for you…
Boom! Tish!
WN, I see what you did there! But, in all seriousness, YES! (His stock portfolio is undoubtedly a thing of beauty!)
MB, oh, yes! Bank statements too 🙂 That was the beauty of spreadsheets, they could be designed in any way, using any colour, printed or not…… master pieces 🙂
Oh, MB! Cell..cell..format…mmm, B2…raaange…Yeah! Macros! Macros! Macros!!!
We must be careful lest The Ultra revises the rules to include financial conversation as off limits along with baking!
MB, just like having the decimal point being in the wrong place within the accounts system, the right place, the right time by the right person makes all the difference 😉
I’m pleased to accommodate most any set of rules.
MB,
Another rule may be in order. A new rule listing topics that are off limits on the blog, such as: baking, finance, knitting, gardening, scrapbooking, painting by numbers, and anything else the Ultra believes is inappropriate.
Dear WiserNow,
The weasel bragged about his ‘home made’ cooking, his own ‘hand’ sewing, his budgets compete with special filing system, his ‘interpretation’ garden, he wrote his own ‘self survival’ book and did tiny hand written prints/notes/letters and bragged about painting houses ….he used it to mirror and manipulate. What ever I did, he’d see me and raise me one.
🎵“Anything you can do, I can do better” 🎵
Mid range nausea ! 🤢
😂
Dear MB,
Not unless you’re talking about inflation 😜
Bubbles,
If I could blush I would.
Dear Allison,
🤭
…Oh yeah… tax returns…. Yes! … government subsidies… Oh my! …here come the journal entries… Jesus!
Gimme that Gantt chart, monster.
WiserNow, don’t mean to stick the oar in, but reading this thread here, you come across as having a somewhat high distain for HG. Again, I stick to my original first comment to you. You are belittling the good work here and the advice given. You are just here for a joke. This blog is to help people, not hinder them.
Best,
DB
An extremely comprehensive and informative piece of writing by you
HG ❤️
The mind is an amazing thing and your mind appears significantly more powerful than any other I am aware of, this only confirms why you are the Ultra.
Thank you for this examination into your mind enabling us to understand how you view things.
Sending you love xxx
This is fascinating. Is this only with reference to yourself HG? I ask because it makes me think so much of my dad, a UMR Elite, who had a keen interest in all of these things. He dissected things in the same way also and I believe it was from curiosity but also at times to stage of boredom. It is chilling especially how you describe women’s beauty, so objectively, he did this the same. No mention of psychopathy in his NDC results, which makes me curious how much of this is psychopathy, being an Upper, Greater or Ultra, or of the Elite cadre. Or, if this is only specific to you, which did his observation, study of things in this way come from?
This also made me think of the attention to detail that our microexpression’s garner, so much attention to detail and breaking things down into pieces. This explains how we can be quite predictable, are there occasions where the big picture turns out differently than expected? Is that experienced as a loss of control, and then steps would be taken to regain control?
Thank you for writing this, absolutely informative, clear, concise and very interesting.
It is my viewpoint formed by my psychopathy.
Thank you for the reply HG.
It’s obvious about you and a tiny tiny percent of the 1%. But you know the vast majority don’t think about beauty, I will await the blog about the vast majority.
“However, the appreciation of art requires more than a mere recognition of its beauty. It involves understanding the artist’s intent, the historical and cultural context, the symbolism and metaphors, and the techniques and materials used. The intellectual appreciation of art is a journey of discovery, a quest for meaning, a dialogue between the viewer and the artwork.“ ♥️Thank you for saying it.
Aesthetics is a fluid concept and I would throw in Theodor Adorno and the study of Aesthetics and Politics, which you summarized magnificently in linking the idea of beauty to historical, social, and cultural components. In that sense, there’s even an Aesthetics of unpleasantness, and of discomfort…
Using (vaguely) Kant’s concept of sensus communis, I do find beauty in refinement, intellectual taste and brilliance. Of course I’m just quoting Kant broadly speaking because I do not agree with his racist remarks nor with the classist interpretation that could be made of this concept.
There’s beauty in your writing and in your brilliance. In all aesthetic interpretations. Until the horror takes over…
Thank you SP, best not invoke the horror, but then, that would take away an aspect of my beauty.
No problem, we’ll keep it in the attic, like Dorian Gray.
I was pondering on your answer (instead of finishing an essay that is due this week, but this is more fascinating). In a past thread, Anna mentioned the human psyche is inherently morbid as a response to my asking for details of her horror stories.
It’s not merely a question of being morbid. There’s an aesthetics of the horror in creating fear and an Aesthetic Attitude in embracing it. One needs to know the momentum, the finesse in raising suspense, the chilling atmosphere, and one needs to prepare herself to embrace the horror of an eerie story. Having said that, I prefer to keep that part of your beauty at a distance, mostly enjoying it vicariously as a spectator of the drama in your stories, HG, never as the protagonist in them. Wait, why would I even think they are the protagonist? YOU are!
In some ways SP, I think witnessing horror is an affirmation of life.
Similar to motorists rubber necking a car accident. Affirmation of life. Allegedly.
HG, I see a beauty in your complete detachment, precision and logic. But it’s beauty best admired from a distance.
Brilliant but again I think you are in the top percent of psychopaths. Maybe 1%. I would say your piece artistically, intellectually and movingly explains you. A cultured man. BUT I think most psychopaths are base. The majority. Criminals breaking laws, norms, and goal oriented. Like animals. Am I wrong? My ex was one. Yes he liked beautiful women lots of them even when married 3 times. He once said to me when I wanted a divorce”what more could a woman want?” Looking at our 5000 square foot mansion and two rolls Royce’s a Mercedes and a dodge ( mine). I said how about fidelity, respect, love?” There are some things that are priceless. He felt like most in my neighborhood that if you made enough money, a woman should turn her cheek to his transgressions. My mommie group would discuss it. One put condoms in her Fortune 500 husbands suitcase when he traveled. Where is the beauty in that? I get rich men cultivate women, art, cars, houses but they are collectors. Their goal is to own beauty. That’s not beautiful. I think your article is brilliant but excludes the mentality of most psychopath’s and glorifies the mindset of a select few who still have no conscience and cause great harm. Still I can’t help myself from liking you and being impressed by you. No doubt your intelligence on music, the arts even nature impresses many. And I respect you. And all should be valued. God was the greatest artist after all.