If I Ruled My World…..
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Dear HG,
“Thank you for sharing the lecture you attended, it was interesting.”
I appreciate that. Thank you for providing the forum in which to do so. Truly.
Oh that be clear: auras are typically thought of as colors or energies surrounding someone. There is reference to it in Chinese medicine, Ayurveda and other alternative medicines. You know all this so I wonder what you meant by an aura within if it was literal or figurative.
You’re correct auras are typically thought of as colourful emanations surrounding a person, which are supposed to convey information about the person such as mood, character, health. (Early depictions of auras: 11th century: https://www.mediastorehouse.com/p/690/appearance-lord-clouds-surrounded-angels-25148490.jpg
12th century: http://www.pravoslavie.ru/sas/image/102449/244925.b.jpg?mtime=1471585461
16th century: https://www.thecatholicspirit.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/olg.jpg )
In particular strands of shamanism however the energetic conglomeration is seen as forming the energetic part of a living being; as a tight net of what could be called energetic fibers which form a spherical shape (containing these countless hair-thin fibers) of various sizes depending on the spesies or plant. Some would refer to this as an aura and see the physical body as if projected onto it or vice versa. It’s not a constant perception of this visual however, it would only occur upon shifting of a perception, as when you shift the perception when you’re in a dream, yet these people have trained themselves to shift their perception whilst they’re awake (without substances). They say every living being is capable of this and animals perceive the energetic part without any hindrance, so do children as they have a very fluid perception as long as they’re little – they can enter this broader state of perception and sometimes you can hear or see them interact with imaginary friends, or they can perceive energetic things which they are not questioning as they assume that everyone can perceive them. This fluidity of perception goes away with time (around 5 years old usually) and from then on becomes accessible in dreaming only. On the one hand it’s okay and necessary because the focus of the shared perception of the same nature is important for the survival in a group but to the detriment of the fuller picture so to speak. We accustome our perception to the person with power within our surroundings which dictates the nature of our perception, so they say. And the outcome is a limited perception of reality as we simply copy this state from generation to generation…
Jordy,
“It’s not a constant perception of this visual however, it would only occur upon shifting of a perception,”
Fascinating. I have not encountered that type of explanation before.
Hi Jordy:
Thank you for responding and I agree with Dani, fascinating!
So does that mean “ if a person shifts perception “ they can see an aura? If it exists, and I believe you, that it is a fact, then can someone train to see them?
It’s interesting to me, as you mention you can shift perception in dreaming ( lucid dreams) and not to open a can of worms but you can take classes or read books on how to interact with people even objects in lucid dreams. I have done it at times but I have no time to take the classes. And there are risks. There are studies and reports ( look it up)….You can develop sleep paralysis or start to blur reality with dreams, etc…. So it is not something to take lightly. Some believe, we are everyone and every object in a dream, so I find if true, how cool to talk to your unconscious self? For example, “ why did you fall for that narc?” lol
“So does that mean “ if a person shifts perception “ they can see an aura? If it exists, and I believe you, that it is a fact, then can someone train to see them?”
I don’t know but what becomes evident is that we’re calibrated to be governed by emotional thinking taking the lead of our perception via reactive patterns which engage all of our physical and non physical resources, assembling the outcome of our perception.
Fluidity of perception would be governed by energy redistribution and thus would involve recalibration of built in reactive mechanisms, the built in emotional thinking routine. Why it’s pivotal to implement HG’s explanation about emotional thinking as it becomes our inside enemy by involving us in decision making to our detriment.
Emotional thinking, hijacking behaviour, forges the pathways for navigating reality. Preventing emotional thinking from sabotaging the distribution of our physical and energetic resources would be number one priority in order to shift perception, if you will.
So Jordy:
Are you saying shifting ET also makes a related to seeing auras?
Sorry if I didn’t get your response.
My contagion I think is my dreams. And I think that you can train to shift perception in lucid dreams.i have naturally tried but not at a level I am told you can train.
Sorry but your ET discussion lost me?
“And I think that you can train to shift perception in lucid dreams. I have naturally tried but not at a level I am told you can train.”
You don’t need to train to shift perception in dreams because it shifts automatically since the ordinary waking-life-perception goes to “sleep” and the rational mind is not there to tell you that you are bound to laws of physicality; that you can’t fly, can’t teleport, can’t go through walls, can’t shapeshift, can’t visit other planets, can’t visit the past or the future etc. etc. etc.
By approaching dreaming in the way people are used to approaching their physical-boundary-based-reality, where we can’t fly or need spaceships to visit other planets — is an evidence that the rational mind is active and tries to find an explanation based on physical law.
People are accustomed to physicality being the leading mechanism where physical effort creates physical outcome, and this prejudgement persuades; that energy or dreaming-body behaves in the same manner by being bound to the physical law of physical obstacles.
The mind approaches limitless possibilities by limitations of physical logic and invent things like training for dreaming. Training is part of waking life. You can train memory or muscle but you don’t need muscles in dreaming. All you need is a feeling of “wanting something” and it is delivered on a plate instantly without you moving a finger.
“Are you saying shifting ET also makes a related to seeing auras?”
In what way ET would relate to the possibility of a perceptual shift:
1. Emotional thinking is responsible for inner and outer conflicts of the psyche and uses up the dreaming-time for re-living and apparently solving what couldn’t be solved – due to the absence of logic – during the awake-time.
The emotional thinking based routine usually repeats itself, which hints that dreaming-solving had failed and was only a pause for the routine. What transpires is: one must resolve the problem in waking life first.
It’s as if dreaming is not taking place entirely for the purposes the science has come up with.
2. Emotional thinking uses up resources for illusionary purposes as emotional thinking engages in a play which is conducted by the narcissist(s) or narcissistic behaviour in personal and global relationships which are held in an exploitive frame rather.
3. Rationality and logic have a function of protection of the individual and should prevent dangerous activities. Let’s say when a perceptual shift happens, due to fluidity of perception (chemical imbalance) for certain individuals who are convinced they can fly (dreaming awake) and jump out of the window — the job of the rationale is to protect and interfere in this action. But a) the energy is but not there to engage logic in this instance or b) the energy was wholly used up strengthening the muscles of emotional thinking throughout an individual’s lifetime, so the rationale is underdeveloped compared to the emotional thinking which is of no help in this situation.
When perception shifts into position when people “see” energy, and their rational mind needs to find an explanation of let’s say a sort of: a burning bush begins talking to them — a rational mind would be inclined to orient itself on an explanation depending on a belief or a scientific proof or a conviction. The mind would come up with an explanation to fit something which is known to it. If it is influenced by emotional thinking it has the potential to mislead not just the individual but many others who are following this individual and operating on the same emotional thinking pathways.
To differentiate emotional thinking or false logic from pure perception of energy is important in order to remain on the balanced side of perception. In order not to jump out of the windows or lead people to occupations or wars based on burning bushes advice or holy voices.
Emotional thinking influences perception from the simplest physicality to more energetic shifts, would be my conclusion.
Hi dear Dani– Re shifting perception and further explanation.
The group of people I had interactions with, who would explain things to me about dreaming, the nature of reality, the nature of perception of energy and so on, they say; every human being perceives energy (auras) all the time but the mind has a defense mechanism in place which prevents the reaching of this knowledge – before it can enter our consciousness – casting this knowledge into the oblivion. And thus people can’t truly prove it because this energetic fact remains on the periphery of our perception so we only can talk about feeling something ’out there’ or explain things away with hallucinations or in worst cases medicate it away and suffer adverse consequences of even greater stiffness.
The documentary I pointed at “The Most Unknown” – there is a segment about dark matter, which in fact points to energy which cannot enter ’the light of perception’ but the scientists know that something is out there i.e. here before our eyes. This documentary is a great example for: that even science, by which we accommodate our position of having insight into everything — is a big guess in the end, and we and our minds just have been here for 5 minutes compared to life’s eternal nature and life’s mysteries — yet in our daily small interactions we behave as if it’s the most important thing in the world to be “right!” about something whilst only having glimpses of reality.
Have you already listened to HG’s new conversation with Blare about bipolar? There are very interesting moments in it. Blare calls it an illness (in accordance with society) but in fact she mentions a shift of perception which happens to her about once in a year when she suddenly feels great and powerful and energised and on the high. She becomes a different person for a while and ’changes skin’ even as far as going for different colours for her wardrobe choice – because she reflects the world around her “giving back more colour” stemming from her (now) more lucid vision of reality – and she feels invincible which is out of character for her; which create an unease in the people who “know” her so well and need her to be as their “knowledge” of her requires it, because it’s important for them to be “right!” about her and what she represents to them — thus what is not familiar becomes a disorder and not normal. And everything which is not normal needs to be medicated away and molded into common and agreed upon perceptual parameters.
Blare’s physical body also uses up a lot of physical energy at this time and she loses weight very quickly and basically exhausts her physical aspect because she doesn’t sleep and can’t calm down as she runs on pure energy (non physical) only and neglects the care of the physical, whilst the physical aspect envelopes in the enjoyment of its existence. She has no control over this shift which produces a burst of energy which is freed at the moment of the shifting of the perception, which makes her feeling good basically. She can’t measure out anything about this process and after the energy is used up she moves back into her ordinary perception and becomes her usual self again. It takes her about a half year (or one year) basically to reach a certain gate for the process to return and repeat.
This is an example of where a perception capable of shifting would open up a different outlook on reality. There are also positions where a perception would shift where “seeing” of energy becomes evident, but it requires even more energy and shifting flexibility and most important – the control over it. Let’s say Blare already demonstrates a flexibility for shifting of the perception, now she’d need to get it under control in terms of measured energy output (sleep for at least two hours, eat) and balanced reasoning and she could stay in that position much longer and be a much happier person, to begin with.
Hey Jordy:
I will watch the documentary! Thanks! Bipolar is a chemical imbalance in the brain – my former stepdaughter has it. In mania, you feel GREAT, invincible as Blair said. My stepdaughter jumped out a window she felt so good she felt she could fly. Blair felt so good she spent all her money. Both report not sleeping for days ( and sleep is needed). My former stepdaughter once found herself naked in another town and didn’t know how she got there or where she was. She once walked into her father’s room naked. And as both Blair and my former step daughter report the next step is down, way down to the point you don’t shower, eat or move. It is perception but many end up in the hospital, lose money lots, get harmed due to risky behavior. It’s why it’s medicated. Brain imagery can detect it. It is a shift in perception but it’s more likely described as an imbalance in the brain. The problem , I am told by knowing a few bipolar is the medication. Many don’t like it as you can gain a lot of weight or feel “ fuzzy” as a result. And with Blair her episodes are far apart. Same with my former stepdaughter. In the USA it’s considered a disability and you can get government aid for it. It is a condition you are born with as Blair stated;) Blair/HG: great great job! Very interesting video!
Interesting isn’t it? Whilst some people take drugs to create the chemical imbalance in the brain to get high, the brain of others produces the drug on its own.
I’ll give you another clue. Why do they jump out of the window thinking they can fly? Why do they have such certainty? Does it not sound familiar to you? WHERE have you practised flying again and again and landed safely? Do you know now?
If their brain waves could be measured as they jump out of the windows thinking they can fly; it would show that their brain is in a REM sleeping phase.
These people’s brains are in a dreaming phase whilst they’re awake. Thus the feeling of invincibility and “all is possible” including flying which is a characteristic of dreaming.
As they’re dreaming awake their brains also don’t get a signal to go to sleep (or eat) because the brain assumes that the body sleeps already. But in reality the dreaming-brain doesn’t give a fig what happens to the physical body because the dreaming-body (brain) does not recognise boundaries of the physical. Thus flying becomes logical.
The amnesia upon awakening — your stepdaughter where she found herself in another town. The dreaming (awake) phase ended and she woke up, not remembering…
Question:
When you sleep/dream do you always awaken energised or sometimes as if you’ve run a marathon and you wake up even more tired?
Same with those people. The low they experience but it’s an even worse low since it takes a great portion of energy for the perceptual shift whilst they’re awake. When you shift perception in dreaming there are all sorts of shields of protection which prevent total exhaustion because your physical body does not participate (almost). When you shift perception whilst awake it can have deadly outcomes because the physical body is not trained to do it. It requires a strong physical body and a strong rational mind to deal with all things ’energy’… The further you can shift the more dangerous it becomes but no one posses the required energy reserves for greater shifts… It’s not a part of our culture to live lives which would enable that… (We use all our resources on stupidity, on conflicts, exploitation and other draining activities…)
Yes…Jordy.
https://media1.tenor.com/m/aUuyOn-o0FcAAAAC/alice-in-wonderland-wonderland.gif
You may have noticed…I’m not all there myself…
Couldn’t resist quoting a famous cat!
Then there are this who combine the two…most likely.
Hey Jordy: it’s very fascinating the dream analogy with bipolar and both use the same brain parts I read …but it’s more complicated. You can see brain scans showing various aspects of the brain that are the same as dreaming but it’s a different process. Some overlap. Dreaming and bipolar disorder differ in several key ways:
I copied ChatGPT: :
– **Dreaming**: A natural part of the sleep cycle, occurring during REM sleep, characterized by vivid imagery and emotional experiences.
– **Bipolar Disorder**: A mental health condition involving significant mood swings (mania and depression) that affect daily functioning and overall well-being.
2. **Duration**:
– **Dreaming**: Typically lasts a few minutes and occurs intermittently throughout the night.
– **Bipolar Disorder**: Episodes can last days, weeks, or even longer, impacting one’s mood and behavior over extended periods.
3. **Cause**:
– **Dreaming**: Result of brain activity during sleep, influenced by experiences, emotions, and memories.
– **Bipolar Disorder**: Involves a combination of genetic, environmental, and neurobiological factors, leading to dysregulation of mood.
4. **Control**:
– **Dreaming**: Generally, people have little to no control over their dreams, though some practice lucid dreaming techniques.
– **Bipolar Disorder**: Individuals may experience symptoms and behaviors that can sometimes be managed or mitigated through treatment, though they may still be challenging.
5. **Impact**:
– **Dreaming**: While dreams can evoke strong feelings and influence mood, they do not directly impact waking life decisions or functioning.
– **Bipolar Disorder**: The mood swings can significantly affect relationships, work, and overall quality of life.
In summary, dreaming is a normal sleep phenomenon, while bipolar disorder is a complex mental health condition requiring understanding and treatment.
I do intervene in my lucid dreams but I am told training can create more involvement but there are risks. There are some who go too deep and don’t wake up. I lucid dream almost every night and wake up to “ what was that all about?” I am 1%! Some of my dreams helpful some not. 20% of people experience a lucid once in their lifetime. 5% have regular lucid dreams. I am almost nightly most of my life since childhood. I am known for it. 1% It can make you crazy. I don’t bore people about my dreams but I write them down since 12. Looking back… there’s premonitions. I didn’t know I was rare until I went to a dreaming workshop and I was the only one over 50 with this. I have read books some crazy in theories, science is inept and HG. No one knows why. I could be bat shit crazy but this is where I feel my contagion comes in. I SEE through my dreams. Work related problems, relations and even spooky more. You talk of perception. I call it intuition. But that’s the thing, people with bipolar lose perception of reality. Dreams guide us, they organize and problem solve. That’s my two cents only based on my own life and my step daughter to whom I am close diagnosed with bipolar. I really don’t know a lot about it other than HGs great video!
“You talk of perception. I call it intuition.” — We don’t refer to the same phenomenon here. Perception and intuition are two distinct topics.
“In summary, dreaming is a normal sleep phenomenon, while bipolar disorder is a complex mental health condition…”
Depending on the dreaming stages/states and the possibilities it uncovers — dreaming is a more complex and unknown phenomenon than so-called known mental health conditions…
“I lucid dream almost every night and wake up to ’what was that all about?’ ”
If you organise your waking-life to be less chaotic i.e. bring more structure into some aspects of it, your dream-life may also become more structured and clear. Emotional thinking plays a huge role in all of it and connects the dots for progress in both fases (awake/asleep). Over the top emotionality is almost brutal and of blinding nature when it comes to more delicate spheres of perception, is what I was told some time ago, but I only truly understood the cost of it upon HG’s descriptions of the interaction with narcissists and how ET intervenes in empath’s minor to major decisions and energy resources. I treat it with more caution now, as far as I can, as I recognise it playing a huge part in my “logic” which I don’t require…
I’ll say enough about dreaming and auras… I unplug … Emotional thinking is more crucial.
Xxx
“Whilst some people take drugs to create the chemical imbalance in the brain to get high, the brain of others produces the drug on its own.”
Perhaps, but I have to go with Hunter S. Thompson on this one.
Hey Jordy:
Hope all is well! I looked into perception v intuition and you are right.
Intuition and perception are related but distinct concepts.
– **Perception** refers to the process of interpreting sensory information from the environment. It’s how we understand and make sense of the world using our five senses: sight, sound, smell, taste, and touch.
– **Intuition**, on the other hand, involves understanding or knowing something immediately, without the need for conscious reasoning. It’s often described as a gut feeling or an instinctual response to a situation.
In essence, perception is about sensing and interpreting external stimuli, while intuition is more about internal insights and feelings that arise without direct evidence. They can influence each other, but they aren’t the same.
Interesting. I took intuition as intuition as having perception (5 senses) but interpreting it correctly and quickly. So it appears that I was discussing perception more. Thanks! Good to know!
I will say this about myself. I am a creative type but with a very demanding career. My dreams help both. Give me paint, book ideas and I often solve legal problems. But it’s often symbolic so I must think about it. What was that about? Then it comes to me. I love that aspect of it. It’s surreal but giving, logical too. Some of it is ET. I can see that. I don’t mind ET but I do mind wasting my emotions on a narc. I don’t have a long line of narcs but my soon to be ex was one. I am lucky as I can call on some of my exes for anything. I meet narcs a lot in my profession. For example, I had a hearing for 4 hours on my birthday. My long term client who I truly care about as a friend had a heart attack a year ago. He fell into a coma. Then had to learn how to walk, talk, speak. His sister and mother died. His partner and long term companion suffered breast cancer and had a double mastectomy and his only child got advanced cancer age 29. He couldn’t work and lost his home. His dog died. I attached his medical records and submitted a 10 page brief on incapacity. He was making monthly payments but the bank on a 100,000 business loan took a default while he was incapacitated and garnished his savings! They took his money while in a hospital with organs failing. I was not his attorney on this case as it happened after he fell into a coma but I let the bank attorney know and he ran for a default judgment! I told the judge at the hearing about how when I told the Palm Springs judge on a case that I was actually counsel of record and gave her the same medical records I gave him in my brief , she pushed out the case a year to let him recover. I cited to multiple Supreme Court cases. This narc judge didn’t care. He said he knew the bank and they had integrity and the client knew about the lawsuit and owed the money. I said “ yes but he had a payment plan.” He said now they don’t. He was awful. My son overheard and quoted Mike Tyson and said “ some people need to be punched in the face.” Arrogant bastard. He said the military has a them too. After I got out of the hearing, on my birthday, I cried. I wanted so badly to give my client some good news. I called my ex who said that’s why you are a good lawyer! You care and he liked my strategy. I told the narc judge I would “tie the case up for years.” Last words before we left the courtroom. You should have seen his face. My last words to this biased prick. The banks lawyer heard. And I will. If they don’t settle for a payment plan, they will suffer fees over years. My ex thought it was a good plan and knew the judge and said he was “terrible. “ Former medical malpractice defense attorney that narc judge. ET ? not a lot in court but enough to send a message at the end. ET for my client. Yes in spades. Logic in my papers and argument and it was ET and logic calling my ex rich wildly successful attorney who rocks! Logic in my plan. I use both. It’s not only who I am but what I want to be. Although sometimes it hurts, I don’t cry a lot but his suffering is so unfair! And I feel for this man but it is an injustice I must correct! Stay tuned. I bet I help.
Sir, please will you get Sam also to do the If I Ruled My World ? Pleeease🙏
I shall consider this.
You’re the best!!
It would be lovely to have Sam share. She’s such a delight!
She’s so sweet, feminine, and pretty. I love her eyes and smile.
Anything you post with Sam would be most welcome. I adore her!
I love Sam. She has such a light within.
Speaking of which HG: I watched for a zenith time “when contagian meets darkness” in n your new channel. There was some discussion about auras that in this thread. You spoke of an “aura within that worked as a shield.”
1. What do you mean by that?
2. I take it as an inner confidence, a natural trust in oneself, a positive leaning toward life, almost a childish wonder that enabled her to explore the darkness in the person despite her trepidation. Is that right?
3. Do you think her desire was curiosity? An attempt to heal? Both? I lean to curiosity as that dark person is so different to her nature. So unnatural in a way. So alien. Like meeting an alien. And not a cute one like ET lol
4. Finally do you think contagions are born with their brains wired differently like the frontal lobe?
5. Intuition is someone who makes quick judgments about someone almost instinctively and often correct. It’s based on a host of things but I think contagions are intuitive really. Do you?
Thank you and I look forward to your Halloween posts! They are always Spooktacular!
6. Oh one more thing, I just learned you could boost your membership. I didn’t know. The top tier: What does an audience with HG entail. It must be different than a consult?
Love this idea, Jordy!!!
Great idea, Jordyguin. I would enjoy Sam’s & HG’s conversation in the IIRMW version.
I love this idea too! I always enjoy Sam’s conversations with Mr. Tudor.
Hey Jordy:
I just finished the unknown world! Thank you for the tip! But what I took free m it is how much is unknown. From dark matter, to consciousness, to microorganisms to life below sea to-whether life exists outside earth this quantum mechanics. And I think the best line in the movie is how limited we are as humans. You can help a frog but will it understand quantum physics? Yet look at how we have progressed. That’s what I think, we aren’t there yet by far and whoever designed the universe is infinitely greater. So who knows what the future holds for mankind. I don’t think we get it. That’s why I feel when people am in such a small percent of regular lucid dreamers and WHY can’t be answered. Maybe with auras too. As for personality disorders, HG nails it but he doesn’t get into co-morbidities so much and which controls. For him, psychopathy governs his narcissism. But others? Stay tuned….
Hey, Dani–
“Serious note…I didn’t believe Paltrow was selling such products.”
She does seem to dominate that sector of the market. To build my own empire I’m considering a line of scented industrial propellants. I’m calling it “My Nookie”.
“Minge candle? Is that one of Paltrow’s?”
Correct, HG. Dani made a passing mention that she needed one around. I like to give a lady what she wants.
Allison,
It’s not even Christmas yet, you’re ahead of the Season. 😄xx
Thank you, Allison.
Of course, Dani.
Hi NA! It’s great to hear from you, asking the really good questions!
“Do they (narcissists) really have choice though?”
On some days I think they have a choice and on some days I think they haven’t.
High functioning (aware) narcs have a choice I believe, but they would not choose against their pathways habits.
There is James H. Fallon, I’m sure you heard of him, who shared how he tried to be empathic for a short period of time with his family and that it was the most difficult thing for him ever to go through. He was completely exhausted after that.
It’s something very unnatural for a formed brain structure, which will be against a change, since brains do not like to relearn.
Change can also happen unpredictably. A person hits a wall or wakes up and something changes forever, so change is possible, either by a strong will and excessive energy reserves to be used up on such experiments or accidentally.
Change is dangerous to any type of construct where addiction and set in stone habits direct the play.
In HG’s words — the interplay of addiction within the construct and psychopathy is described in the article Whore, to my mind.
I read this article from the perspective of; psychopathy puts narcissism on the spot. And it becomes a gem.
https://narcsite.com/2023/02/27/knowing-the-narcissist-whore/
HG has talked about the options the various schools and cadres have at their disposal, their “choices”. They have the ability to learn more options but as the level of intelligence and awareness drops, my understanding is that the likelihood of them expanding their repertoire also diminishes.
Hi Dani,
I thought I responded to your comment about my daughters but I might’ve gotten one of those nonce errors.
Yes, my empath daughter used her real name when she did the empath & trait detectors. She has nothing to hide though. She still follows Mr. Tudor as well. Last weekend we were just discussing the new channel. We both love it. Once I learned that my narc daughter was a narc, I stopped talking to her about Mr. Tudor. She doesn’t follow him at all. Both my children believe I came here for my ex best friend. It actually turned out that she’s a narcissist too. They also were the ones that told me that my husband, their father, is a narcissist. It turned out they were right.
I probably over share too much. I try to limit it as much as possible. I try not to talk about all the manipulations from the narcs in my life. I want to talk about it too much because I don’t want them renting space in my brain.
I’ve been listening to so many videos on the new site plus I bought a bunch some bulletins from the Knowledge vault that I have them all confused in my head right now. But I do remember listening to one where Mr. Tudor talks about his impulsivity. Is it his psychopathy or narcissism or a combination of both? The narcs I know have very little if any impulse control. They need it right now! They cannot wait at all. Maybe I’m wrong but I wonder if Mr. Tudor’s psychopathy keeps his impulsivity in check.
I’m curious about your thoughts on Educating HG, Part 3. Its when he talks about his NISS Andrew. What did you hear in Mr. Tudor’s in that video?
I’ve heard Mr. Tudor talk about Shieldmaiden during the golden period. I wouldn’t say there was warmth in his voice but it definitely was benign.
As I was typing this, I realized what I hear. I hear fondness. When he speaks about or to certain people, sometimes there’s fondness in his voice. I don’t know if Mr. Tudor is actually fond of them but that’s how it comes across.
Hi Leigh–
Impulsivity is part of his psychopathy. Inside the mind of a psychopath: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=exGgHx7Blkc
I will go back and listen to the video about HG and Andrew again. Then I will let you know.I think the Educating HG is one of the best series on the the channel. That and “When Harry’s Wife met HG”. I hope there will be a new part to that soon. Anything with interactions or HG sharing interactions with others is Interesting. I love the glimpses he gives us into his mind…right down to impulsive thoughts.
Fondness may be the emotion he’s intending to make a listener hear and feel. Genuine fondness, I don’t think it’s there. Certainly not in the way an empath or normal feels it.
I don’t know, Dani. I had a different interpretation. I listened to The Emptiness yesterday and Mr. Tudor says this:
“I seek out stimulation and novelty in an attempt to fill the void, for many of my kind this means engaging in impulsive and risky behaviors, but aided by my higher executive function I engage in calculated risk and the only impulse I experience is the desire to banish the boredom.”
This leads me to believe he does have some impulse control. The lower echelon narcissists have little or no impulse control. So how does Mr. Tudor have control over his impulses? Think about his grand design. He sits and waits. Why? Does thinking about it alleviate the boredom somewhat too? Does that helps with the impulsiveness?
I also think about Virginia McCullough, a pure psychopath. She lived with those bodies for 4 years. To me that exhibits impulse control. She just sat and waited and waited and waited.
I don’t know. Maybe I’m missing something.
Hi Dani,
Sometimes I’m a little hard headed and I need to be hit over the head, lol. I think I understand what you’re saying now. I’m not impulsive. In fact, I probably the complete opposite. So i don’t need to factor in or consider impulsivity. With Mr. Tudor, impulsivity is still something he has to consider. He may know that there are more effective ways to assert control and alleviate the boredom but impulsivity is still lurking in the background.
Is that what you were trying to say?
I still don’t know if it’s his narcissism, psychopathy or both that drives the impulsivity.
It’s all good, Leigh. I tried to send you a response and got the nonce…and yes.
Two instances of Mr. Tudor feeling impulses that he did not succumb to. The moral fiber. The strength of character… The desire to avoid threats to control…
A most excellent story of his illustrious past…two stories, really. (Gives Mr. Tudor a pout and begs…please, sir, we want to hear some more…) “When Harry’s Wife met HG”
In their first encounter, Mr. Tudor thought about stabbing TOW in the leg with a fork…because he was very engaged in her banal chatter about…fashion on a cable TV show he’d heard nothing about.
In the second, when the pastry loving, Hornets supporter spoke before he had a chance…Mr. Tudor considered punching him in the stomach. He ultimately decided to belittle him later. I do wonder if that will be shared during the remaining parts of the relating of the second encounter Mr. Tudor shared.
The impulsivity is part of the psychopathy. Not that giving in doesn’t also benefit the narcissism.
Hi, Dani–
“I found your post very interesting…”
Thank you for acknowledging it. I value your engagement. I find it very disheartening that she accused HG of racism. It disgusts me when someone throws that accusation around like a hammer in order to manipulate people. It’s so dangerous and cruel. Not that her attempt would work on him, but it’s very distasteful and wicked. It increases my estimation of HG and lowers my opinion of her.
Hi Allison,
I agree. It was very discouraging to hear that. It is a very frustrating thing to hear from anyone when it’s baseless. It just makes it more difficult for people when it’s real. It’s more difficult when the racism, ableism, bigotry of any sort is real and results in harm.
I am tired of all abusers of power. I have heard overt Bigotry, against multiple groups and from multiple groups, and seen people applaud it or sit silently for all kinds of reasons. All forms of bigotry are equally wrong.
I am curious what’s in the video that wasn’t posted. Mr. Tudor can post or not. It’s his channel. He chooses what’s on it. But now curiosity….so much curiosity.
Anyway, that was my tiny rant…
Leigh says “I haven’t see the IIRMS with Trevor yet. I’ll have to check it out.”
Had me contemplating what the ‘S’ stood for…… amused myself for a few minutes……
Lol, Asp! I can’t even blame auto correct. Its just my lousy typing!
Laughing again now, Leigh. Glad you laughed too 🙂
Leigh and Asp,
I have the same issue, sometimes I spend too much time trying to fix the typo and I keep hitting the wrong letter over and over….it’s like, stop hitting the y, stop that…😆xx
Rebecca, do you mean like…….
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😆😆Asp,
No, I mean like, “I want to hip….hip…hip…hop. The letter next to the one I want to hit…the o and I hate the i, every time, like three in a row, before I can hit the right one….I type too fast and keep making the same typo. When it happens, it happens three in a row. 🙄😄xx
3, the number 3 (according to Numerology, mine is no: 3……… ahh, “ology” 😉 ) aaaannnnndd (mucho apologies, the keys got stuck)……. triangulation at it’s best !! See ! Empaths do it too !
Having said that, sometimes, I have talked in the third person sense rather than utilise “I”, “me”….. as a form of protection – whereas I had thought it was Aspergers – maybe it is a combination of the comorbidity (including the empath)?
Or, were you referring to the game called ‘Hopscotch’ (totally different trajectory altogether) ??? xx
Asp,
My comment is the perfect example, typo in the comment. 😄xx
😄Asp,
I mean it as, I’m a klutz on the keys, get in a hurry and mess up my words. 😄Xx
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Hi Dani,
Yesterday I responded to you and I said this;
“What has irritated me about Mr. Tudor? The Three that Got Away & I Smell Victim. Those two had a visceral affect on me. It irritated me that he was so cold about it. But I also know that he needed to convey coldness in order to drive home the point. ”
My comment is emotional thinking. I gave Mr. Tudor a pass. I allowed myself to believe that the reason he was conveying coldness in those articles was to drive home a point. But it was just an excuse I used to stop my irritation for him. That truth is those articles are from his perspective and there’s no need to convey warmth and compassion. He’s just giving us the information straight. That’s probably why I was so irritated when I first read them. It shows the real Mr. Tudor.
Hi Leigh. I still think it would be interesting to know how you would react to an emotionally inflected version.
Hypothetical question… If you were amongst a group in person with Mr. Tudor…would you want him to be cold or to be charming? Which would behavior would be more him?
Inflecting and emoting are natural. In a way. It is natural for Mr. Tudor to do that in order to retain control to blend in, to play games. He had to teach himself those expressions because they didn’t come in his model type…so to say. So it could also be called unnatural.
Which would be more the performance?
That’s a very interesting question, Dani. Would I want Mr. Tudor to be cold or charming? I’d want Mr. Tudor to be genuine, whatever that might be. I need him to be honest. I need to hear the truth, distasteful or not. Sometimes he’ll use charm to deliver the message, sometimes it will be coldness & sometimes it’ll be flat. Lucy Letby is good example of Mr. Tudor delivering the message without any emotion.
Which would be more of a performance? They’re all performances. Any action by a narcissist that involves another person, is a manipulation. Mr. Tudor’s voice is his most powerful tool.
With The Three that Got Away, he did inflect emotion. He inflected irritation. I was irritated by that irritation. That was my initial reaction though. Now I understand why Mr. Tudor was irritated.
I do enjoy when he has warmth in his voice. Mr. Tudor voice really is a very effective tool.
HI Leigh–
“With The Three that Got Away, he did inflect emotion. He inflected irritation. I was irritated by that irritation. That was my initial reaction though. Now I understand why Mr. Tudor was irritated. ” — How dare people escape him? It’s like his video about his response to Doug’s death.
I love his voice too. Do you remember what video you heard warmth in? I don’t know that I have heard warmth. So nice; I like gentleness. I’ve only heard it in one video. I like hearing smiles in his voice, infrequent as it is, and the laugh after Trevor said chimpanzee. There were a number of different laughs in IIRMW with Trevor Coult, MC.
Hi, Dani–
One of the most delightful demonstrations of HG’s voice for me is in the video “A Black View of TOW”. As a Black woman in America (and I kind of hate prefacing with the phrase “As a Black woman…” for complicated reasons) I do have a sensitivity when it comes to exchanges with White people. I’m pretty at ease with everyone regardless of race, but I do have a slight guard up as a protective measure. I like people and I don’t want my own biases to get in the way of interaction, especially those based in fear even if they have some historic grounding. So I manage it, but I do engage a sort of second set of ears based on the race of who I’m dealing with. I’m a very good American, swimming the racial waters. This second set of ears operates when I speak with other Black people for different reasons.
All that to say I found HG’s interview with her remarkable, especially in vocal terms. Being someone who shares certain physical and social commonalities with his interviewee, I could easily see myself in her place. As I listened to him I was aware that–yes–he’s excellent at modulating and using his voice as a tool to enact warmth, understanding, and humor. But what was absent–and this is what I think is authentic with him–was any hint of racism. He simply wasn’t concerned, beyond the purposes of the information, that the woman he was speaking to was Black. I can’t quite describe it, but there is a certain something, a certain weirdness that can’t be hidden when a White person is speaking with me and they’re super aware that I’m Black–beyond it being a basic fact of my body.
The worst is that sort of benign racism, that type where you just know that later on they talk about me as their Black friend, or they’re simply amazed that I can put together a sentence because I must be so deprived. Overall, it’s this type of niceness where underneath they’re putting down the next mark on their Bingo card of being “a good person”, “antiracist”, and “on the right side of history”.
With HG there was and is absolutely none of that. That interview and the his vocal quality in it demonstrate that should there ever be any doubt. He’s joked that he hates everyone equally, and it’s funny because the truth of it is that he treated that interviewee without emotional regard to her race. There was simply no emotional movement in him about her race. I don’t think it was just because it was a facade. That’s something intrinsic to him. It wasn’t that I could detect he was using his voice to cover up discomfort with her race or undue fascination or plain bigotry–I use that detection skill all the time when I analyze the people around me. Some people are better at hiding it than others, but it always shows, especially in the ones who see themselves in a certain way. The emotional junk of racism just wasn’t there in him. That was absolutely refreshing. And I could hear its absence like thunder.
He was doing what he does and he didn’t treat her differently in regard to her race with how he used his manner and tone. It was just one aspect of her as a person, useful for illustration of the discussion, but it didn’t move him one way or the other. It really came across that racism just wan’t there, not that he was using craft to make it seem that way. He was decent. None of that sickening, obvious-to-me, over politeness. No tribal ugliness of any kind. No racial nastiness tucked away in the corner of civility. Just logic. And for me that’s something that makes his voice beautiful.
Entirely accurate.
Exactly Dani! Its like Mr. Tudor’s video about his response to Doug’s death.
Yes, I do remember what videos I heard warmth in. The first time I heard it and really felt it was his analysis of Tina Turner after she died. It kind of threw me for a loop. I wasn’t expecting that. I also heard warmth in the video, Educating HG Part 3 when he talked about his NISS Andrew. His eulogies of Doug and Queen Elizabeth displayed some warmth as well.
I supposed it could be gentleness as well and not necessarily warmth. Its not cold or flat though. Those videos landed differently.
I haven’t see the IIRMS with Trevor yet. I’ll have to check it out.
Hi Dani!
HG has tremendous talent and he is an unrivaled educator BUT
1. How much of his involvement in the 3 that got away do you think there was?
2. In general with any IPSS, do you think he gets bored and creates chaos?
3. Do you think he really cares about us outside his legacy or goals?
4. Do you think he abuses IPSS ‘s with the manipulations he taught?
For myself, I respect the man, I treasure his education as hands down no one touches it and I have said it … he should be in every psychologists students books around the world, BUT although he is as entertaining as Orson Welles in his fireside chats ( if the day, ) I know he is a cold, calculating, self centered goal driven sometimes reckless man who enjoys shit stirring in his personal life, and never commits to a woman, he abuses people in general. That’s the nature of a narcissistic psychopath . Did he commit crimes? Maybe. Does he care if he did? No. In my opinion, he is the best educator on narcissism and I have referred many. And will. But while I sympathize with his childhood, we all have a choice not to harm others even if that choice is to obey a law. There are programs for narcs and even psychopaths that won’t change them but better their willingness not to be a problem to themselves or others and to follow rules and laws.
I am a loyal fan but to be so I have to apply his education and apply it to H.G..
I am not saying the bloggers don’t and Dani I am not saying you get it. You do. But to a newcomer on this blog, H.G. is what he says he is. A narcisstic psychopath. It’s real.
Do they (narcissists) really have choice though? (As Contagious has suggested). This suggests to me the ability to opt in and out of the control of the narcissism itself. Do people think that is possible? And to what degree?
Contagious
1. How much of his involvement in the 3 that got away do you think there was? I have not read/listened. I have no facts with which to come to a conclusion.
2. In general with any IPSS, do you think he gets bored and creates chaos? I think boredom can come in, and may play a role alongside whatever devaluation trigger occurred.
3. Do you think he really cares about us outside his legacy or goals? No.
4. Do you think he abuses IPSS ‘s with the manipulations he taught? I’ve read the articles that detail the light levels of abuse he has elected to share. I’m sure it gets worse. I think he abuses with manipulations that aren’t covered in “Manipulated”
Mr. Tudor has talked about how he has modified some behaviors to be “pro-social” but he has yet to detail what those are. I’m curious as to what he will say. If he chooses to share on the new channel. I would also find it interesting to hear about interactions he had as a child with psychopaths in his family and what was learned from observing and interacting with them.
Hi NA: first of all I look for your comments as always hilarious and witty or thought provocative and always authentic. Thank you. I don’t know if narcs can opt out of their nature but there are programs taught to narcs and psychopaths to make them make better choices to integrate in society so they better their lives. Most go as court ordered but some voluntarily seek help. I imagine not a high percent but some do! Are these programs that help them integrate better in society successful? No idea. There are some studies that narcs behavior is modified to reduce re-entry or recidivism. See Bureau of Justice Statistics. They don’t want to go back and that can change certain forms of behavior. BUT it is a proven fact that some narcs change their behavior in prison environments. They can become more compliant especially with authority figures and less grandiose. See JMM Ambrojo. The interest and research is growing. So it is interesting that a narc could opt in and out if in a prison environment. Life or death circumstance. Interesting. I would welcome thoughts on this too? The most obvious is the survival instinct, does that override fuel? Picture P Diddy meeting a gang Lord in a prison, no doubt he will modify his behavior or be dead. So the question becomes how? As opposed to why. HG mentions fuel levels drop. If isolated, it must be impactful. What do they become then? They must meet the creature if no fuel or barely any. What does this look like? Psychosis? Suicidal depression? I don’t know.
Hi Contagious & NA,
I don’t believe a narc can opt in and out of their narcissism. If a narcissist changes, its only because it served their purposes to do so. The goal is still the prime aims and a narc will do whatever it takes to meet those prime aims. They may flip from a malign manipulation to a benign manipulation but its not genuine change. They just saw a better way to assert control. At least that’s how I see it.
Hi NA! One more thought… Jeffrey Epstein. If he did commit suicide. …He was a greater. HG says narcs aren’t suicidal types. Then why? Or is that the result? But I think he was killed.
He was offed.
Hi Allison–
I found your post very interesting, and I agree with you about how HG demonstrated that there was no racism in him. I really liked that video as well, and you expertly summarized what was going on with HG’s voice there.
I am pleased you recognise this. Interestingly, the individual who I spoke to has accused me of racism (which is baseless) but this is simply her reaction to the fact that I have not responded to her demands to publish a video (although I am under no obligation to do so) and is a poor indictment of her behaviour.
I agree, Leigh. They can’t change or control their narcissism. And HG can’t completely control his impulsivity which is part of his psychopathy. So I tend to think that psychopaths in general have varying abilities when it comes to the governing of impulsivity. it would be interesting to hear about more recent incidents of him giving in to the impulses and those from childhood. Has there been any change in what is most likely to prompt them?
I didn’t hear warmth for the queen or Doug. I heard somber. It was fitting to the occasion. It was intended as a form of respect, not as an exercise in how emotional he could make his audience. That’s how I heard it.
It would be interesting to hear what Mr. Tudor sounds like when talking about a new IPPS in the golden period, while it was in progress. It would also be interesting to hear the thoughts of his IPPS when the golden period is strong. If she wrote about it.
The gentleness for me was just one word when he was talking to that codependent empath.
The it’s was great fun. Mr. Tudor sounded gleeful in a strange way when Trevor said what country would be his enemy. The laugh I most liked, that’s unlike any other laugh I have heard from Mr. Tudor occurred after Trevor declared his national animal. I think it was unexpected.
What prompted my question was the assertion that we can all choose to harm or not to harm someone. I don’t know if that’s true in the case if a narcissist. HG is so aware of his narcissism and seems so in control that I think we can sometimes forget that he is still a slave to it in a sense. The narcissism will direct him by any means to achieve the goal in order to maintain control of him (not the other way around). This is not to excuse harm that he does, but if it is narcissism driving the bus, then the question remains: Does HG really have a choice? Or is he slave to what the narcissism dictates at that moment (of harm)?
NA,
This is an interesting thought to consider. Do I think Mr. Tudor is a slave to his narcissism? Yes, I do. But I also believe he has the ability to choose to use a benign manipulation vs a malign manipulation. Either way though, its still a manipulation so he’s still a slave to his narcissism.
Hi NA,
From how I remember him answering a few questions from Doug, I would agree that there’s not perfect control of the narcissism anymore than there’s perfect control of the impulsivity. I think it’s difficult for those who’ve benefitted from his teachings to understand that to a certain degree. I think there’s also denial that they need to deal with, and likely some cognitive dissonance in the way. Intellectually understanding…repeating something is one thing. Emotionally accepting it is something else. I think many of his followers also want him to be “happy.” He doesn’t do happy, but I think the sentiment still influences their thinking. They also might still be wishing for happiness with their narcissist (understandable emotion…but illogical).
Dear Dani,
Hmph. “Your time has come.” Well!
That’s it. I won’t be intimidated by starch goods. It’s goin’ down, G.
It’s on. I’m lighting the minge candle and slicing the rye.
Minge candle? Is that one of Paltrow’s?
Allison–
Making the fancy toast? And you got the right candle to make sure that if you feel faint…remember… Keep calm…buy more from Goop.
Serious note…I didn’t believe Paltrow was selling such products. So I went to check after listening to HG’s roast…the worst part wasn’t that she was selling a minge candle…it was that said candle was sold out…along with other products with a similar aroma…
Hi ladies: I always enjoyed H.G. at consults. And although he hid his face, I found him to be professional ( number one), charming and disarming, he makes you feel comfortable and yet very pinpoint on advice like a hammer with a nail. He drives his point home. You get your money worth and it’s a treasured moment and a relief to know you have his mind there. Now outside of a professional setting, I think like my narc you love their passion, their charm, their sex, their intellect…but not the abuse. They all seem to eventually abuse or harm another a lot. They seem to need that cycle. They were fed abuse and that’s the air they breathe.
And that’s why we are here . We hated being mistreated. Some of us escaped it, some want to manage it and some like me at one point didn’t know what the fuck this alien force was. Shock. Needing to understand the language, the culture to avoid it. Who likes being abused? I hate it. I run. But dear H.G. our educator grew up with that language, that culture, it’s all he knows. And he shares his language and culture with us. You would be lucky to meet H.G. at a party. You would be lucky to have his consult. You would not be lucky to be an IPSS for long.
Thank you for the endorsement.
Hi Dani: I think of Elon Musk who can rule the world in different ways. He had an awful childhood but had an existential crisis at 12 and decided to see how much humans could achieve. He coded a video game as a child and sold it for 500$. He moved to Canada and then San Francisco where he developed a google map like app re: newspapers. Sold it. Then b came rich developing PayPal. He took okbhis money and talents to Tesla and space x where he still puts out satellites to give internet to Ukrainians in the world and other remote areas of the world but 4 of his renewable rockets failed. He then bought twitter now X with the proclamation of free speech but he developed algorithms that made his speech more prominent and chooses which government censorship to employ. Hmmm. He has never been tested for autism but relates and thinks he is Asperger’s. He had a baby with grimes who found out at the same hospital he had a baby with a co-worker. HG calls him a greater. I think he is a great example of what narcs can do for the world while also being damaging around the ones he is with. Most people who work with him say he isn’t very nice.
Hi Contagious–
Elon is an interesting person to observe. Indeed, many people talk about how not nice he is. He makes bold claims…but he’s also been right about some of those claims. He’s having a great time.
I think some of his interviews about his children would be interesting if HG would analyze them.
“He has never been tested for autism but relates and thinks he is Asperger’s.” — That is not the way that I understood him when he opened for SNL. He said quite clearly that he has Aspergers. (Which would have had to have been diagnosed some time back…as Aspergers is no longer in the DSM. They got rid of it…because Hans Asperger sent disabled children to a clinic to be euthanized while under the rule of the Third Reich…as I have heard.) Musk is very convincing is those skits.
I think he may be both, but I don’t know if he has been tested formally for ASD. I know that HG has said that he finds him to be more narcissistic than autistic. I still think he might be both. I didn’t know that HG had classed him as a greater. If that is accurate, it might explain his convincing performance. If it was a performance.
“Then b came rich developing PayPal.” — I’ve heard interesting stories about this. I’ve heard that PayPal was mostly developed when he came in….and that the only reason he gets to keep saying that he helped develop it is because of a legal agreement where PayPal wanted him…gone…from their company…because he was unpleasant to work with. I don’t know the accuracy of that information. I will say that he is quite litigious…just the number of court cases involving him that are reported by the media is high.
I’ve heard that many who work with him say he isn’t nice. With how vague some of them are and the publisher behind some…I don’t know how seriously I take all the allegations. I’m sure he can be unpleasant, and if HG says that someone is a narcissist, I take it very seriously. I’ve watched the majority of the Tudor Scope videos. There is never a lack of evidence on the part of HG.
Hi Contagious and Dani,
I enjoyed reading your comments about Musk. When I first learned of him, he made me nervous, I couldn’t tell you why then or now. As I’ve heard of some of the things he’s done, I’ve been even more nervous, especially with him getting in tight with Trump. I had not seen him in any public sort of situation until recently and I thought, hm, he is more likeable, albeit in an odd sort of way, than I’d expected. I also heard that one of his children said he isn’t nice, and so many mothers to his children, obvious narc. HG had said it previously, so I retroactively filled in the gaps. Contagious, though given his intelligence it makes sense, I had not heard greater, which is terrifying. He cannot be the president but if he can control the president, he has as much or more power. And who knows what his actual agenda might be. I still don’t trust him and, to my surprise, one day recently my 22 year old son said he doesn’t trust him, what are we seeing, or picking up on? Not sure but now I’m even more nervous about it.
Dani and Contagious,
Have either of you watched a 3-part documentary called ‘The Elon Musk Show’? It’s on YouTube. I watched it a while back and found it both interesting and revealing.
The documentary looks at several aspects of his life. It looks at the way he raises funds from those who are impressed by his promises with regard to making a futuristic car. He basically swindles them for money up-front. When he makes losses on his space missions he raises funds by talking up his car production even though the innovations he promises are not even tested, etc. The documentary also looks at his personal family life and the way he treated his first wife and children.
The engineers and others employed to work on his space missions talk about his obsessive need to work long hours and his expectations that his employees work equally long hours even though that means they have no life outside of working for him. This has led employees to have health issues and personal problems. Some employees could not endure the demands and long hours and quit. The engineers also talk about his reckless way of cutting corners in the engineering of space vessels in order to meet his demands for space mission deadlines.
It’s an interesting documentary and worth watching if you haven’t seen it.
Here in Australia, in April this year, there was a situation in which Australia’s eSafety Commissioner issued legal notices to Meta and X to remove explicit videos of a church stabbing in which a priest was shown being stabbed in a knife attack while conducting a church service. The videos were circulated widely on Meta and X as well as other sites. After the church stabbing, a violent riot occurred outside the church. The riot was attended by community members and church-goers incensed by what they had seen on social media. In the riot, policemen and ambulance paramedics were attacked and injured by rioters, police cars were vandalised, and rioters threatened to find and kill the stabber.
In response to the legal notice issued to X to remove videos of the stabbing and the resulting riot, X announced that it intended to challenge the notice in defence of ‘free speech’.
This response by X (essentially the response of Musk himself) then descended into a war of words. Elon Musk accused Australia’s eSafety Commissioner of being a “censorship commissar” while Australia’s Prime Minister Anthony Albanese accused Musk of being an “arrogant billionaire who thinks he is above the law.”
In the documentary, I recall one person saying that Musk detests treachery and negativity from his employees and insists that everyone be positive and complimentary of his ideas. This attitude means that his employees are essentially brainwashed into saying only positive things about him and the company. It’s probably why there aren’t more employees dishing out dirt on him.
I can see similarities with the way P. Diddy’s activities were hidden and kept secret for many years. I don’t mean that Elon Musk is doing the same depraved and sordid things as Diddy, but rather that there is a culture of forced ‘positivity’ around Musk that encourages secrecy and the defence of his beliefs. As a result, I think he has the ability to exploit employees without them speaking out about harmful work practices.
With regard to your comments in which you have said that Elon Musk is “not nice”, I wanted to comment. When you delve more deeply into his behaviour, attitude and actions, he’s much worse than simply being “not nice”.
To me, he is an obsessive and arrogant egotistical brat who plays fast and loose with other people’s lives and money. He is a tyrant and a swindler who believes his own hype and believes he is above the law.
Hi AV!
“When I first learned of him, he made me nervous, I couldn’t tell you why then or now.” — I don’t know what to think of him. He is fascinating to watch…but not always in a good way. I think he has proven points as often as he’s been quite shifty and evasive in other ways. He is likeable (at points), and he is odd. That’s a nice word for it. I don’t know enough about him.
Who is more dangerous…a smart narcissist or a stupid narcissist?
Hello Wisernow, Dani and A Victor:
50 Famous Narcs, (Redacted – confidentiality breach)
I saw that series on Musk and I wrote about a series I watched from a writer for Ground News it’s a subscription that gives you both sides of an analysis of news and fact checks). He was the one saying Elon was never tested ( or never revealed the medical testing maybe?)
(Redacted – confidentiality breach)
(Redacted – confidentiality breach)
One was a spy who betrayed the UK, one a Hungarian Philanthropist, 3 industry tycoons and the rest world leaders of countries. One is a woman. Of course there are others. But if you look at the group defined it appears power and pushing human limitations to make a mark on the world and end up in history books is key. I don’t know if H.G. classified Leonardo da Vinci but if a narc, I see him as an upper Greater.
So where does Musk fit in. This is interesting. I see him in the middle, a Larry Ellison sort as he made strides in innovation. His fingers are on the Tesla battery, reusable rockets, AI etc… he could code by 8. He is a genius, he could talk shop with rocket engineers which is why they brought him in and subsidized him in USA. He took his PayPal money ( before this he had another company X named, he likes “X” as a title hmmm, after dropping out of Stanford and disciplined himself to live on 1$ a day) and he invested in Tesla saying “ I knew after my investment, I would still have 91 million. “ He is interested in the world such as population growth ( worried about the decline and saying it’s the greatest threat to humanity, he is not worried about water shortages ( saying that 75% of the world is water and we can develop desalination), he backs Trump ( I think his motives are self motivated… money, Trump caused the income gap to grow in USA and will continue to lower taxes for the rich. Also what’s weird is here you have a man who says he wants a less oil dependent world so develops Tesla batteries but backs a President who is backed by big oil and gas companies and called climate change a “ hoax.” Hmmm … I think that he is backing him for other reasons and I don’t think it’s the abortion issue. Trump can be bought. Trump isn’t a prolifer but billionaires put him there to change Roe v Wade ( Koch brothers?) The tycoons always bought politicians and will continue. All are good orators …but musk? Awkward. But Twitter/X was bought not to further free speech as demonstrated by your example in Australia and the fact he developed an algorithm at X to give him the platform and he decides what governments can censor or not ( Australia example). From the list…. Elon has an agenda, and it is about power and making an impact on the world. Elon is first and foremost an engineer, as stated relentless in his course of innovation and work ethic but his purchase of X and great involvement in politics is obvious, he isn’t just an innovator/genius, he wants something more. A Victor is right…What?
As to his children, he isn’t there. His transgender child hates him. His first wife stated intelligence is not the same as emotional intelligence and found him deficient, he ended the marriage by having their marriage counselor tell her he wanted a divorce not him personally and he never discussed the loss of his child with her. Grimes sued him for child support, she has 3 children with him ( out of 12?) but once spoke about having to make her own money… interesting. Grimes found out he was having a baby with another woman while at the same hospital. All partners say that Elon’s focus is work. Not them. Not the children. I think a personal story that sheds light on Elon is he chose to live with the father who was very abusive. This shocked his mother at the time. I think he was 12, but Elon wanted to live with his father to read the entire Encyclopedia Brittanica and his mother said she was too poor to provide that. So Elon even as a child was willing to harm himself to gain knowledge to invest in himself to succeed.He also had an existential crisis at 12 and it is said that he decided his meaning would be to push human limits as to what could be done in this world. He is an interesting narc to say the least.
Again: what does he want done in this world? Stay tuned. We haven’t seen the last of Elon, perhaps the beginning.
My best friend is going to his brother’s party next month. He might be there! My client met him in Florida at his house. My client was very impressed …
I am curious about him. My husband instinct is he wants to help rule the world. A Caeser type but through avenues that supersede military and persuasion.
What do you think?
One more thing… I think the risk to Elon dallying in all realms of reach is that unlike his group members he isn’t military in power and this differentiates him from most. If he overextends his reach he might find his businesses compromised. Yes, there is power and money but what ultimately ended Caesar? Over reaching….the tycoons work behind the scenes using their money to gain power. The politicians use their platform and military strength. What’s interesting about Musk is plays all fields technology as power, communication as power and aligning him with who he thinks will win the American election or politics as power. That’s why he doesn’t fit with the rest unless he plans on being President someday. It’s interesting to guess at his ultimate goal. I think it’s world domination but not in an obvious way but in a way to control technology, communication, politics, and create a fiefdom of his legacy with children.
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This message is a plug for empaths lol
‘Who is more dangerous…a smart narcissist or a stupid narcissist?’
An interesting question Dani.
In my opinion a stupid narcissist might be more dangerous in the short term; in the immediacy. But smart narcissist would be more dangerous in the long term. And on a wider, longer lasting scale.
Hi Dani, I think all narcissists are dangerous but the smart ones have the capacity to do it on a much larger scale.
Hi AV,
I agree that level of chaos is a big difference between the smart ones and the dumb ones. I also think there’s more risk of physical assault from the lower cognitive functioning ones than the higher…but more mind games with higher cognitive functioning.
Charles I – greater…vs…Cromwell – ? I would like to know through the lens of narcissism more about the trial…it’s a unique moment in English history. I want to know about greater vs greater.
I’d also love to hear about when Bojo met HG…and other interactions that HG has had with the self aware of his kind.
Counter question: Who is more dangerous: an aware empath who knows what she/he is dealing with and still craves a relationship with an abuser or an unaware empath who doesn’t know what she/he is dealing with?
Who is more dangerous: an aware empath still wanting to be with a narcissist or unaware empath dealing with a narcissist?
Dangerous to whom, Jordy?
Dangerous to whom?
What do you think, Dani?
What’s the main danger a person could come across? And how are the dominoes (individuals) connected as they fall?
@Dani,
From what I understand, two greaters will both be aware that the other is a greater and they will both be vying to meet their own prime aims, as with any other narc. They obviously have an advantage on unaware narcs which is leveled with another greater. Then it would come down to other things, likely first determining what each other’s goals, in order to acquire their prime aims, are. If they see the benefit of working together, they might, if not, they would not. It then would be a matter of the different manipulations available to each, their intelligence, the network each has established etc. We are seeing it played out on the American political front right now, it’s quite fascinating. One thing that holds true, none of them can act outside of their narcissism.
I think they could have a lot of fun together if the goal was to simply manipulate others at a dinner party, for example.
Hi AV–
“From what I understand, two greaters will both be aware that the other is a greater and they will both be vying to meet their own prime aims, as with any other narc.” –Exactly.–“If they see the benefit of working together, they might, if not, they would not. It then would be a matter of the different manipulations available to each, their intelligence, the network each has established etc.”
And it would be fascinating to study. interesting if HG would teach us about when an empath (in a position of power) stood up to a greater. A pure psychopath (in power) and a narcissist could also be interesting.
Americans are dealing with narc on narc in the presidential race. But not greater v. greater. And likely a large number of the other elections, be they national or local. We are seeing it played out on the American political front right now. I imagine that the UK is dealing with their own illustrious prime narcissist (selected from a group of narcs). It’s quite horrifying to watch all the stupidity going on and just the downright nastiness…and unwillingness of so many to see that neither one is a decent person.
“I think they could have a lot of fun together if the goal was to simply manipulate others at a dinner party, for example.” — I think that the right pairing could do quite a bit together. It could be good or bad, depending on what they viewed as most advantageous for them.
Hi Dani,
Not the presidential candidates but yes, in the presidential race. The candidates are only two of the actors there. There are others who are pulling strings, some more visible than others, but it is greater against greater.
Jordy…
That depends on circumstances. If the empath has few friends/no family…I think the main danger is to themself. If they do have a tight network of relationships… There’s danger to others. But the school of narcissist involved plays a role in the danger too…I doubt a greater would get caught perpetrating their abuse easily. They’re not as likely to leave physical marks as others…but they’re more likely to have a network of people to torment the victim whether they stay or if they go…it’s bonus fuel and control to get others to help in the abuse. Probably super bonus the more empathic the lieutenant/coterie member is. All that control…the POWER!
https://tenor.com/view/magic-freak-boss-jafar-disney-gif-12988227
And then the narcissism comes to bite him on the wrists…
https://tenor.com/view/genie-aladdin-jafar-gif-5220287
Now, I wonder what kind of narc is that fellow in those gifs?
AV,
that’s unsettling. But unfortunately true. I have to wonder how much the greater on the side of the democrats likes the nominee…
Dani,
Well it is interesting that one of the greaters took some time before he offially endorsed her.
Daniiii, you find the best GIFs and animations to make a point! Love!
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Thank you re Leila Jayne’s schools.
Hahaha! Dani! That really made me laugh! Thank you! I think it could be said about both sides possibly.
Thank you, Jordy. I’m glad you like the gifs. And you’re welcome on the schools for Leila Jayne.
Agreed, Leigh…and having seen the greater (I believe you referenced) out amongst the little people…talking to a small group to energize them for the candidate HE endorsed…how could those ignorant peons fail to fathom greatness condescending to shame them for threatening HIS control by not readily acknowledging that HE has told them what’s best for them. HE is right. They are acting like sexist fools…listen to HIM. HE knows where they should vote…now vote with HIM! HE doesn’t expect to hear any more complaints out of all them.
Who was the last non narcissist president? Jimmy Carter?
Hi Dani,
Yes, you understood my reference. He certainly did scold them. How dare they not support her because she’s a woman.
That’s a little scary if its true that Jimmy Carter was the last non narcissist president. That was a long time ago. But I wonder about George W Bush. Has Mr. Tudor confirmed somewhere that he’s a narcissist?
Leigh,
I don’t know for sure that Carter was…but HG did say Carter was an empath.
Yes, I knew about Jimmy Carter. Its nice to know that not all presidents are narcs. But I’m curious about George W Bush. I kind of felt an affinity for him. Hmm… I wonder if that means he is a narc.
‘HG did say Carter was an empath.’
Super.
I’m so used to the snarky humor in the TOW vids that it is always impressive to hear the matter-of-fact analysis in the series on Stockton Rush, Lucy Letby, and Sean Combs.
HG is being sensitive (if you want to call it that) to several things:
A) his cognitive empathy tells him that normals and empaths won’t find those topics a laughing matter: because of their narcissism, people died;
B) TOW would bore the knicks off everyone if he didn’t make her funny.
Correct.
Hi, Viol.–
One of the funniest TOW videos is the one where he analyzed the show she appeared on and her big talent was…toast. She made flippin’ toast. Actually, she ordered the host make the toast! Such a good microcosm of the world of the narc. I doubled over watching that one! His voice dripping with faux seriousness then derision was too much. My new toaster arrived today. Dare I use it? Surely the world of toast has been conquered by TOW. How can I do it without assistance and ARO jam?
Through the humor I still learn so much about narcissism and how potentially destructive it is. Especially wonderful for me, being American, is hearing Mr. Tudor’s stately tones deliver phrases such as “lashings of spicy poontang”. There’s such a brutal truth under there about the somatic narcissist, and it’s been very beneficial for me to learn that concept and others from HG. And it’s true–only he can add any color to her as a topic. From what I understand her relationship with color is iffy.
As a person she is duller than dryer lint, and I find it a credit to HG that he can provide such entertainment with so little to work with. The humor is perfectly applied and never a distraction, and it causes her to be a useful illustration as an individual while it unveils the dynamic between narcissist and IPPS. I find myself laughing at bananas and tomatoes, but then always remembering some point he made about the dynamic with the predator. Wonderful stuff.
Allison….
She made fancy toast…emphasis on the fancy…it was NOT just two random slices of fermented gluten chains that trapped carbon dioxide bubbles that was then exposed to an encolsed heat source for a period of time that were afterward Picked up and put by the host into a vertical roasting appliance (™ HG Tudor). She thought of this fancy food…her grandma invented toast…and…and it was a miracle of culinary genius. She’s changed the recipe a little. Gordon Ramsey…you’re a donkey not to make such meals of glory! Bobby Flay dreams that he may one day discover such flay-vor. Wolfgang Puck doesn’t know f*** ’bout cookin’. He needs to hire her immediately… If not sooner…he will do so to prove he’s not a schmuck.
What she made was too much…she overwhelmed the viewers with too much. Too much. *tears in Dani’s eyes. Face reddens* Three toppings on toast…and you do the marscarpone cheese or the apple butter first, she said…I’m still geeking out about it about my options. If you put multiple slices in the toaster…you can do one of each…someone get me a goop candle. I feel faint! She’s just a relaxed California girl who will spend a day in her jammies…and greet the future king and queen in ripped jeans…and walk beside a red carpet…and wear backless dresses to schools…and not be handed a mic…who claps like a seal when she can’t hold a trophy… She was on Suits…a cultural phenomenon…loved by dozens when it first aired…Game of Thrones and Star Trek and Big Bang Theory…the long arm of the paralegal justice will strip you bare more than she was nude in that show. Your time has come. It’s “Suits” time to shine…or is it the bronzer…maybe the kneeling flight attendant can tell us…
Sorry…
I can hardly eat my brisket, in light of the recent news of ARO’s health turn. I’ve been restless, worrying, walking a groove into my kitchen floor. Barely able to enjoy my baked potato or the side of green beans.
My toaster. My toaster! If there is no ARO, there is no jam. If there is no jam, there can be no bread. And if there can be no bread there is no life!
My fridge mocks me. It stands there, white and empty of preserves, grinning. That cold bitch.
And my little dog. Where are her ARO dog biscuits? My little widget! I’ve been waiting to feed them to her so they could make their way through her alimentary tract and onto my sidewalk, where I would scoop up her poo in lavender-scented mess bags and sprinkle it with gold. For the mantle.
But there are no ARO dog biscuits in her poo. I’ve checked. Just Milk-Bone tat. Er–and some other stuff. Her poo is barely good enough for the garbage now. She punched me in the face today with her tiny paws. She didn’t do that before.
I used to be young. The sun was so warm.
Now my toaster stands empty, bleak and forlorn, as I do.
O, Hamilton Beach! You are a desolation!
Switching topics:
Fellow empaths, any idea of what Stevie Nicks is ? Famous singer who I love and on American Horror Story?
I say empath with a narc. Lindsey Buckingham. Maybe even at one point a dirty empath if we consider Fleetwood Mac. She was close to her family, mother, father, grandfather and younger brother Chris throughout her life and career. She adored her father aka landslide. She was active in her nieces life. She had drug and alcohol issues but got sober. She had a good relationship with the talented Christine Mcvie.
Ideas? What school? Cadre? I don’t think HG did a tudorscooe on her…
Dani,
Your comment about meeting HG in a group and preferring to see him with or without inflection in his voice.
A female psychopath (pro social) was interviewed by a journalist. The interview was about the use of ‘the mask’, essentially all of the mannerisms, facial expressions, tone and inflection that enables the psychopath to pass undetected.
The journalist requested that part of the interview be conducted ‘mask down’. She lasted only a few minutes before she had to stop and request the mask to go back on.
The psychopath explained later that neurotypicals don’t realise how reliant they are on non verbal communication. We also don’t realise how in tune we are with intonation, inflection, emotion conveyed through the voice. For the psychopath every element has to be added in, in order for us to feel comfortable. We need a feedback loop when we communicate, it’s essential to our form of communication. Without it, we feel incredibly uncomfortable.
It would translate to me as the psychopath being bored with what I was saying, thinking I was an idiot, then hating me, then plotting to kill and eat me, so that I felt I needed to exit. That’s how I think I would respond and I’m not particularly expressive when I speak. The more expressive, the worse it would feel I think.
The same psychopath has a friend, a neurotypical who lives in the same house, they share a kitchen. The friend described walking into the kitchen early one morning. Her psychopath friend was sat at the table, mask down. The response from the friend? “ Oops, sorry, I’ll come back later!” Then she scurried out. The expression, or lack of expression, translated to her as threatening. To the psychopath, “ I had barely woken up and was sat at the table.”
I have been very tempted to request a timed ‘ mask down’ in consultation. I considered five minutes only, timed so I would have the security of knowing the mask would be raised again once the time elapsed. Problem there is, I didn’t trust HG enough to raise the mask on five haha! If I’m set to five, then I’m set to five, not five and a half or six!
I am very curious to know how I would react, easier probably with the barrier that not being physically present provides. Then I think, why do I need to know?
Xx
Sounds fascinating. Asking for mask down. You do not know why you need to know until you know. And I think Mr. Tudor would be respectful and he’s so good with times and such. Do you have any idea what you would want to converse about while the mask was down? I think different topics would produce differing levels of unease.
Mr. Tudor mentioned as well how people react to his dropping vocal inflections. Sofie in person and Susanna over the phone. I got questions about this now.
Dani,
“You do not know why you need to know until you know.” I agree, although if I’m honest, with me, most of the time, it’s just simple curiosity. Curious to know how mask down sounds, feels and how I would respond. Would my own communication style hold, or, would I consciously amend? Alternatively, as I suspect, would I automatically shield so that my own emotions are dialled right the way down as an instinctive defence? I’m curious about it all really.
Yes, I’m part joking, HG is respectful in consultation. If he did go over five minutes I imagine it more as doing it for a wind up because he knows I’d see the funny side later. In terms of conversation mask down, I do know what I would be discussing, but I’ll keep that to myself other than to say, I think it would need to involve personal opinion on both sides to get a better view.
I would estimate that mask down would be worse for the IPPS due to the shock factor and not recognising the person you know and love. That would be in addition to any instinctive response that sources lower in the fuel matrix might have. I do think voice is only a small part of mask down though. If you want to fully experience it, it would have to be face to face.
Xx
Hi Dani,
Sorry, my original reply spontaneously self combusted again! I responded to you then Contagious back to back.
Yes, I agree HG is entirely respectful in consultation. I was part joking about the five and a half or six minutes. I can see HG doing that more as a wind up because he knows I would laugh about it later. It’s at the time I might not like that though!
I do know what I would want to talk about mask down but will keep that to myself just in case! I think it would need to involve opinion though. Me providing an opinion and asking HG for his opinion.
I think mask down in general terms would take time to take effect, particularly if not face to face. I don’t see mask down as aggressive in that context, more an information exchange with the feedback loops cut and portrayed expression and emotion removed. I am curious to know what that feels like and also what my own response to it would be. I suspect I would automatically shield and cut my own emotion from responses but I can’t be sure.
I think the removal of the mask would impact an IPPS more heavily. There would be the shock of not recognising the man you love on top of the instinctive wary response that most would feel when faced with a psychopath who is mask down. It would depend also on the situation when the removal occurred I think.
Hi Allison,
That lecture sounds fascinating! Removing a fear response would open up the world in many ways. I can see why curiosity would be the replacement response. No downside to exploration so why not explore?
You reminded me of a documentary I watched years ago. It was about children and fear responses. Researchers put a group of babies in a room with snakes. The babies were simply curious. They crawled around with them, were touching them, gurgling and smiling. Then, they led the mothers in and they sat around the edge of the room. The mothers were not allowed to say anything. But the babies of the mothers with a dislike for snakes picked up on the discomfort of their mother having to watch their baby interact with a snake. One by one the babies began to cry and their behaviour changed from curiosity and interaction to fear and withdrawal. It supports the ideas put forward in your lecture. Without fear, there is increased curiosity.
Xx
Hi Truthseeker!
“I can see HG doing that more as a wind up because he knows I would laugh about it later. It’s at the time I might not like that though!”
I am truly shocked, TS. I feel like you’re failing to grasp the importance of that potential future exchange with HG. Picture it. You clutching your device to hold HG close. Velvety chocolatey tones emanating from the speaker…you’re a little tense, and your stomach feels a little twisty as the moment draws closer. You make the request. HG, ever the gracious gentlemen…becomes cold, clinical, devoid of charm we know him for–leaving the predator you’ve heard him describe in the varied tales of his exploitations and adventures. (Think of the man smiling in the mirror before going back to talk to Moron Markle. Think of the the teenage boy who destroyed his shop teacher’s cigarettes for grabbing his person. Think of the boy who lit his neighbor’s shed on fire–over being verbally slighted.)
With your knowledge level, you know that HG going over the time you specified is him bestowing upon you an opportunity, demonstrating his graciousness. *hums the godfather theme* You would have a chance to provide him with negative fuel, which is more potent than other fuel. Then there’s the future positive fuel that you’ve hinted would also be withheld from the Ultra…you should have a nice long think about that…ask yourself–what kind of empath do you want to be? What kind of empath would do that? You can make sure his tank is closer to full. The power is his… (Why am I now humming the Captain Planet theme song? *shrug*)
“I think the removal of the mask would impact an IPPS more heavily… It would depend also on the situation when the removal occurred I think. –Undoubtedly, that is so. I think that would be one of the most disturbing things he could do to them…any number of situations would be disturbing…and all for different reasons…he’s hinted at how people take his flat voice. There are different responses. It would be interesting to hear how another self-aware psychopath would take it.
Dani,
Do you think I need a safe word at all?
“AUBERGINE!”
“….”
“HG! I SAID AUBERGINE!!”
Xx
I just heard “Make me scream”.
As you wish.
I just heard “Make me scream.”
(My other one was “organism.”)
Step? Ok.
The organ isn’t working? Try the piano.
Truthseeker…we’ve learned a lesson today, yes…about boundaries…
“Try the piano.”
That made me laugh. Well played!
Hey Trutyseeker:
I just wrote about the flatness and monotone of some psychopaths I have watched: Gacy, Bundy and Virginia ( latest by HG). They have a limited range of emotion but I think many are naturally monotone. Gacy said when he killed someone it felt like a pressure lifting from him. He said that in a monotone voice to the interviewer. Do you think psychopaths prefer no masks? Some? I met a killer when at the DA. He was calm and monotone and had what I call goat eyes. I handled the prelim deposition. I have said this before… while he was calm, monotone and had dead goat eyes, I kept feeling like he was looking me a bulldozer pushing me out of the way regardless. This is how I felt he was feeling. Maybe his responses. He denied everything. It was a knock and talk 4th amendment issue. He was a drug dealer who the people n establishment gators revealed was suspected of several murders. Imperial Ave, San Diego. I saw no mask. None.
Hi, Truthseeker, Dani, and Contagious–
I’m really enjoying the psychopathy videos on the new channel and your discussion here. It’s really challenging to absorb the concept, but HG’s description of the creation of a psychopath (in the “Why the Psychopath Manipulates You” one, I believe) helps. They’re totally goal directed, and everything else is pointed towards whatever the goal is. Sleek and lethal.
I attended a lecture the other day given by a well-respected CalTech neuropsychology professor. He presented his findings from a case study in his lab of a woman with lesions to her amygdala which rendered the area entirely non-functional for the production and experience of fear. It made me think of HG’s information on psychopaths. During the study they exposed her to animals and situations which have been validated in a laboratory setting to induce a fear response in humans and rats–not only the biochemical response but, for the human subjects, the subjective reports of feelings of fear. Not only did she not produce the biochemical reaction, but her interactions with the fear stimuli were fascinating. When presented with venomous snakes and spiders, she reacted with curiosity. She investigated them, she observed them, but she exhibited none of the physical manifestations of fear nor did she report the emotion. In the interview she reported feeling other emotions in her life, but fear was entirely foreign to her.
This connected to HG’s discussion of the “what if” aspects of his psychopathy: What if I set this on fire, punched this person in the face, saw this woman during orgasm, etc. Curiosity carried to its limit. But curiosity isn’t quite the right word because that seems to have too much joy behind it. Also, the woman being studied wasn’t a psychopath and she didn’t express having that itch. But in her I thought I could see something of the biological set up of the psychopath in her fearlessness, and how it cleared away everything so that she could focus only on the goal of interacting with the various fear-inducing stimuli. She wasn’t afraid, so she was investigating whatever was presented to her to see how it worked, how the snake reacted, how things ticked. To see “what if”. I find it very difficult to understand because of how the features of psychopathy interact with certain aspects of narcissism, so I have to sit with the new channel a while. It’s very satisfying to have something like this to chew on.
When I think about it, I wouldn’t ask HG to set aside his performance during consultation. I need the exposure to such a unique experience, and I think it might be harmful to me if he didn’t exhibit self mastery. I appreciate him doing so. I benefit from such high level interaction. Not only do I find it remarkably instructive, it also provides me with a bit of luxury in a land of pretty threadbare social custom. I soak up what I can for nourishment.
Thank you for sharing the lecture you attended, it was interesting.
Hi Contagious,
I think the mask of the psychopath is a necessity. How flawless the mask is will depend on environment, intelligence and socialisation in my view. A mask is worn in order to fit in with the majority who do possess emotional empathy and who do have a reasonably uniform system of non verbal communication and feedback loops. In some ways, I look at it like speaking a foreign language. Speaking a foreign language isn’t just about learning the vocabulary. If you can’t speak the language you can’t access what you want effectively, so really the mask is a necessity.
The wearing of the mask will have an element of ‘muscle memory’ to it I think. A little like driving a stick shift. At the start it feels like there is a lot to remember, after a while it’s more muscle memory in terms of changing gear. Repetition should bring on a degree of muscle memory I think. I imagine a conscious decision to put the mask on as soon as the psychopath knows there will be interaction with another person and it will largely stay on until there is a prolonged period where the psychopath is alone. Even then though, I’ve had an email from a psychopath who was clearly mask down. You can definitely tell! So even written communication involves use of a mask of sorts.
I’ve been told that it’s a relief to go mask down. Just easier, less mental energy used. I can understand that if I think about it the other way around. Imagine you and I are in conversation. I ask you to remove the emotion from your eyes, voice, body language etc. Don’t reveal anything at all of how you feel about what we are discussing. Just say the words that’s all. On top of that switch off all of your safeguarding. You are not interested at all in my opinion of what you are saying. You are not interested in why I am saying what I am saying. You are not interested in me as a person or making me feel at ease. Really you aren’t all that interested in me at all, just in what I’m saying and if it is either interesting or of use to you in some way. Our conversation is an information exchange that is transactional only.
Everything you switch off, is everything they have to add in. That’s an awful lot and it has to be fast and continuous.
Honestly, I don’t think I could fully switch everything off. I could dial it down a long way but the emotional empathy would still seep through, via my interpretation if nothing else. Thinking of it in that direction I have to say that the wearing of the mask is actually an impressive undertaking and I feel for kids who had to learn how to cobble together the early versions.
I do think dropping the mask is used as an attacking move though too. Kevin Dutton recounts a tale where he goes for Sunday lunch with his friend Andy McNab. McNab is ex SAS and a diagnosed psychopath. They enter the pub, it’s a family pub, kids around and both men are with their wives. At one end of the bar, the football is on and a group of guys are being loud and swearing heavily, egging each other on and being loudmouth arseholes. This offends McNab who wants a nice quiet lunch with his wife and friends. Dutton goes one way to order food. McNab goes to the bar to get the drinks. A few minutes later the group of men put their drinks on the bar and leave quietly.
Dutton, having seen a brief interaction take place between McNab and the men asks his friend what he said to them. Mc Nab smiles and says “I just told them that they were going to put their drinks on the bar and leave, because if they didn’t, I was going to take them one by one and hurt them like they have never been hurt before.” He was one man, they were a small group, yet they followed the command. To me, the words would not have been enough to occasion that result. It had to be in the delivery. A delivery that left no doubt that McNab meant what he said, and, was a predator. That to me would be an intentional mask drop where the removal of that mask brought fear. A sensing by those men of a predatory nature and the sense that this man was capable of doing what he said he would do. I also think that line could not be faked by a non psychopath. You have to commit to it fully and without a flicker of fear or hesitation. You have to fully believe in what you are saying, which for me illustrates the impression management that HG talks about in his “Why the Psychopath Manipulates You.”
Those are some of my current thoughts about the mask and its use.
Xx
Indeed. Undoubtedly McNab will have made use of his gaze when delivering his injunction. He will have sought out the gaze of each individual to ascertain if there was anybody exhibiting a sufficient level of defiance that meant they needed to be disincentivised first and evidently they did not and his use of meeting their gaze coupled with the firm of delivery in effect “broke them “ causing them to depart.
HG,
That’s interesting in terms of seeking out which group member would be most likely to cause a problem and dealing with him first.
To me, it looks like one man versus four. To you it’s more one on one. Deal with the ‘Alpha’ of the group and the pack will fall in line.
Agree there was no issue in that example, but your thinking behind the group scenario makes perfect sense. Thank you.
Absolutely. Why do you think in conventional battles you sought to take down an officer? Similar principle. You don’t win a battle by killing all your opponents, you win it by breaking their morale and you do that before the fighting starts. This approach applies to so many interactions.
Mr. Tudor-
1. How would the situation have likely changed had there been one similarly trained psychopath in the group of four that McNabb addressed?
HG: “You don’t win a battle by killing all your opponents, you win it by breaking their morale and you do that before the fighting starts. This approach applies to so many interactions.”
2. What factors make breaking morale more difficult?
3. Do you think some countries are losing understanding of the importance of morale in winning in certain conflicts?
4. How does a change in the wind win affect the psychopaths and narcissists on the losing side?
5. What mindsets are advantageous for empaths to apply when entering places where narcissists lurk when they need a good/service? (I consider salespeople in general as being higher in narcissistic traits, and completely devoid of empathy for the person filling their pocket.)
Thank you so much for your time. Much appreciation.
“This approach applies to so many interactions.”
Yes, I see what you mean HG. Your war example makes perfect sense when you put it that way. For me that approach would go into the ‘when in war’ box. I’m not applying it outside of that context, rather, I wouldn’t think to do so automatically. When I do apply it though, I can see how it would work across numerous contexts, including in a business setting.
HG,
thank you for turning your discussion with Truthseeker into the Breaking the Target video, it gives such wonderful insight into the mind of the psychopath.
Everybody who has not yet seen it, please go and watch, it is excellent and deserves to reach as many people as possible. And while you’re there, the video about the Necessary Triad is just as good, truly eye-opening.
Truthseeker, thank you for the question that sparked this idea!
“I just heard “Make me scream”. As you wish.”
Gee–I’m feeling really warm all of a sudden.
Hi Leigh–
I gave up on scrolling…
Leigh: “You don’t pull any punches, do you? I definitely see your truthseeker! I love it though!”
I’m glad that you enjoy it. I am quite curious by nature.
Leigh: “I would absolutely love to go to in person event hosted by Mr. Tudor. Providing there were others in attendance. Then I could blend in. I also would lie about who I was too. Then this way I can’t be seen and he wouldn’t know it was “Leigh”. I’d probably give my real name, lol!”
You would lie to Mr. Tudor? I think he would figure you out pretty quickly if it were something like a group dinner party, still plenty of guests. He’s mentioned a few times that if he did something like that…he would want to go around the table and make sure each person had his attention for a few minutes. I think that would be intense…to make eye contact, knowing who and what he is…how much information he has shared and how much he has helped me…I could see it going one of two ways for me…I fail completely to be able to talk at all but stare at him riveted the entire evening. Or I ask so many questions I’m sent to the naughty corner to think about my actions.
Leigh: “I’ve never done an audio consult. I’m too scared. I’ve only done the empath, trait & narc detector consults. Those were all over email.”
Mr. Tudor is very professional. I think that many empaths have been nervous or scared before consultations, but I haven’t heard one say that they regretted it. I have done two…and I learned something about myself that I didn’t know and hadn’t even been thinking of trying to figure out at that time. It took me a while to work through it…but it’s good to know and now I can stop myself. I don’t know that I would have figured it out at all without the audio consultation.
Leigh: “The Three that Got Away & I Smell Victim. Those two had a visceral affect on me. It irritated me that he was so cold about it. But I also know that he needed to convey coldness in order to drive home the point. So the irritation doesn’t last long. Its just a smidge.
Interesting. It’s not his past actions that irritated you. It was the delivery. It would be interesting to have a side-by-side version of those…one where there is a performance of caring about those actions and the present one to evaluate the differences…
Hi Dani,
Great minds think alike. I gave up scrolling too.
Technically, I’m lying now. If I showed up at an event as my real self, I’d be finally telling the truth. But to answer your question, yes I would lie, but only about my identity.
Yes, of course if Mr. Tudor had a conversation with me, he’d be able to figure me out because the life stories would be the same. That’s why I’d want to blend in and not be seen. I couldn’t do a dinner party where there was any attention focused on me. I can’t he that vulnerable. That’s the same reason I can’t do a consult, I can’t be that vulnerable.
I’m very open on the blog. I share a lot. Probably too much, lol. That’s not who I am in real life. I’m normally very closed off. I can’t let somebody see this side of me. The reverse is true as well. I can’t let bloggers or Mr. Tudor know my true identity. It’s just too risky to me.
So when I say I’m scared to do a consult, it’s because i don’t want to be seen. I know Mr. Tudor would be polite and put me at ease.
After thinking about my comment about my irritation with those articles, I realized it was my emotional thinking. See my comment above.
I can understand that, Leigh. I’m similar. I don’t particularly like talking about problems in person (and I’ve done very poorly)…it’s somehow easier to type them up. I may still obsess for a while, trying to decide whether to send what I’ve typed. I’ve decided no at times; but I’ve often saved what I typed up. There’s something useful in having that information.
Do you ever feel nervous and decide not to send something because you feel like you would attract too much attention from Mr. Tudor or you feel that something is a little off and you don’t want him to know that much?
I know that that situation is very much based in emotional thinking…but I’d rather be cautious about some things.
Hi Dani,
No, I never worry about sharing too much information on the blog with regards to Mr. Tudor. I’m okay with him knowing everything and I’ve shared pretty much everything other than my name. I don’t worry about attracting too much attention from him because I’m here to learn and I’m eager to hear his thoughts on everything. Mr. Tudor has made this a safe space, that’s why it is so easy for me to share on here.
The only reason I keep my identity hidden is because of my past. When I first got here, I shared a lot about my past affair. I’ve also spoken about my narc daughter. I don’t want that info to get out.
My children actually know that I follow Mr. Tudor. My one daughter has taken the empath & trait detectors herself. That’s why I can’t share my real name. My empath daughter actually follows Mr. Tudor on YouTube and Instagram. I’m more Facebook and the blog.
I understand your need to be cautious though. But I wouldn’t worry about Mr. Tudor. He’s very even keeled and he’s always very respectful.
I know he’s respectful…but some things just feel like oversharing…or too personal…and now we hear about every comment someone makes. It’s good and bad in ways. I’ve read things I would have otherwise missed. However, there are some comments I would prefer not to read. It felt like it could be a bit more private if you were on the right article…but still posting publicly is good in a way…because someone else who needs to read it can see it.
Saying some things just comes with its own baggage, and I don’t always know where personally sharing hits a place of trying to attention grab. I’m not saying it very well.
Mr. Tudor has always treated me well. Sometimes he’s too busy to answer my myriad questions. And sometimes some answers have been difficult to read or listen to. But I needed that. And sometimes I don’t know when he’s being rhetorical by answering my questions with questions… Then I answer them…and realize afterwards…I hope my answering amused the psychopath part of him. I know the narcissistic side got a smidge of fuel.
Did your daughter use her real name?
What does your narc daughter think of Mr. Tudor?
HI Dani,
Yes, my empath daughter used her real name when she did the empath and trait detectors. She has nothing to hide though. She uses her real name to follow Mr. Tudor as well. She knows I’m on the blog. She just doesn’t know I’m Leigh. Over the weekend she told me about his new channel. She was happy about that as well.
My narc daughter doesn’t follow Mr. Tudor and doesn’t have an opinion of him. I don’t really talk to her about him or his information. I don’t see a point.
My children believe I started reading Mr. Tudor’s books because of an ex friend of mine. What’s even more interesting is that both of them told me their father/my husband is a narcissist. I used to tell them to stop talking about their father that way. It turned out they were right.
I completely understand. I agree that there’s a fine line with sharing. I try to limit what I share too. I don’t want to share every single manipulation that I’ve been put through. That to me would be oversharing. Plus I don’t want the narcs living in my head. From where I stand though, I don’t think you overshare at all.
One other thing is that its easy for me to share because I’m hiding behind a screen and pseudonym. If I was using my real name or this was in person, I wouldn’t be sharing any of it. In my real life, people think I’m happily married. They have no clue.
HI Leigh,
How did you select Leigh for your pseudonym?
“My narc daughter doesn’t follow Mr. Tudor…” — It is a very pointless conversation to talk to a narcissist about their bad behavior toward you.
Does your empath daughter recognize what her sister is?
Do you find it liberating to have the blog as a place to talk even in vague terms about reality?
And the new channel. It is delightful. It’s also interesting to observe Mr. Tudor’s process and method in handling two channels at the same time.
Hi Dani,
I don’t have a lot of imagination so I purloined it from my brother, lol. It was perfect because it was gender neutral and when I first got here, I wanted to hide that too.
Yes, my empath daughter recognizes that her sister is a narcissist. My empath daughter is my narc daughter’s scapegoat. She’s not very good to her sister at all. They have a very fractured relationship.
Yes, its very liberating to be able to share and even unload. Other than my name, I don’t think I’m vague though. I’m pretty open about things. Probably too open, lol!
I keep flipping back and forth between the two channels. I interested in some celebrity stuff, just not TOW. She irritates me.
Hi Dani,
I want to say also that in person would be very different. I’m an introvert. In person, I wouldn’t be able to share the way I do here. I have a screen protecting me here.
Hello Dani!
Hello, Dani!
Probably my comment would be censored, but I still try. Sorry, to spoil the statistics, but I’m the one who, actually, regrets audio consultation with HG. It lasted 20 mins instead of 1 hr. I was really nervous and scared before it, and after that, I felt even worse. I sensed he was very cold, even via a phone. I didn’t want to open up to him.
I listened to 100k series, and others feedback on his audio, eveyone is very grateful to him, so I guess, it’s smth wrong with me.
I also wanted to ask him why his past experiences in books are not matching, but didn’t find the courage. And now it doesn’t matter.
I’m reading some comments here and it’s beyond my understanding how would anyone want to meet with him in person, after everything you know about him. He is Evil. Even with just some lesser, mid range Narcissist, you want their attention, just a piece of them, and with HG, I believe it’s much worse, it can turn to obsession before it’s too late.
So reading and listening his materials from distance is the only right way to interact with him.
His books/videos opened a new world to me and helped me understand things in my life and in the world. Narc/Empath test also helped a lot. Though empath cadre results are not quite accurately describe me. Smth wrong with % I think. Technique in “a final battle” pretty much removed the narcissist from my head now. I almost stopped thinking about him, which is great and I’m happy about that. Now I know how to identify Narcissists, so not going to have any more of them in my life, including my mother.
Therefore I’m still grateful to him, despite my bad experience with him and I will follow his channel till I get bored.
Hi, Leigh–
“I’ve never done an audio consult. I’m too scared.”
I encourage you to do a live consult! Stomach butterflies are understandable, but don’t let your fears keep you away. I get an attack of nerves as well, but I go ahead. His manners are immaculate and you’ll soon be put at ease, then you’ll experience the benefit of one-on-one real time interaction. He really provides excellent assistance and you’ll be glad you did.
Hi Allison,
I missed this comment. I apologize for not responding sooner.
Many of the bloggers here have talked about how Mr. Tudor puts them at ease. I feel very safe on the blog. While there is a degree of nervousness and butterflies in my stomach, it’s really just a small portion of the issue. I’m sure one day I’ll do a consult, but for now I have to put it on the back burner.
Leigh,
I get nervous during consultation and HG does set me at ease. You’ll do fine too, when you are ready, have the time etc. Xx
Hi, Leigh–
No need for apologies. It’s not like I was sitting in a corner, staring.
Waiting.
In the dark.
Hissing, “Come to meeee, Leighhh!!!” in strained whispers.
All weekend.
Not at all.
LOL! That made smile, Allison! 😀🤣😂😉
Everyone,
I know Mr. Tudor is wonderful. Its not about Mr. Tudor. Its about me. I’ve shared things on the blog that I don’t want the real world to know about. Until I’m ready to leave my husband, I can’t risk him finding out about my safe space here on the blog.
Leigh,
I understand your concern. You’ll do things in your own time and pace.xx
I trust HG with more info about my situation, than I do on the blog, but that’s how I’m most comfortable. I’d rather HG know certain things and no one else. Xx
Rebecca,
Did you see Mr. Tudor’s Instagram? Did you see the black horse? I thought of you when I saw it!
Rebecca, did you feel that way from the beginning? More comfortable with the idea of consultation than blog sharing?
Hi Dani,
No, I used to feel more comfortable sharing on the blog and consultation. Now, I’m more comfortable sharing with HG more than the blog. I share some things here, but I share more personal stuff with HG. I worry about people I know in my work life and personal life knowing and reading more personal business of mine….some painful stuff I’d rather not people gossip about at work or in my family, as I have narcs in my extended family and at work. Xx
Makes sense to me, Rebecca.
Hi Rebecca,
That’s the precise reason I used a different name when I came to the blog. I didn’t want anyone in my personal life to know about my personal stuff. Its interesting that we approached it in different ways. I have a lot of issues with trust though. I always think that people have an alternative motive.
Leigh and Dani,
Leigh, We did things differently because I had a habit of trusting too much and now I’m more careful of who I’m friends with and who I let in my heart. I was naive and too trusting. HG has taught me that I don’t have to let everyone in and that doesn’t make me bad, rude etc, I’m protecting my own mind and heart. Before, I was getting hurt by people I thought were friends. Now, when people start giving me red flags, after many indicators, I step away and protect myself. I learned not to trust right away and observe to see behaviors and then decide how to proceed. Me using my name, I didn’t think to use someone else’s name. I wanted to be open and honest here, safe here….but, I didn’t think of outsiders looking in on the blog, and now I’m more careful what I share. Xx
Hi Rebecca,
Its quite freeing to be open and honest. I find your openness & honesty admirable.
Hi Rebecca.
I’m more the opposite. I trust very few. It’s just as problematic. I’m sure that you’re getting to a better balance of reservedness with HG’s observations.
Hi Dani,
Yes, I learned from HG to be more selective in who I talk to in my personal life and whenever I can, to be more selective in my work life too. I’m more cautious with people I don’t know now. I have a small circle of friends and I’m more comfortable with that. My friends don’t fully understand the narc dynamic and what’s all involved, for that understanding I have HG and the blog here. Xx
Leigh,
Thank you, I appreciate that, but being honest and open caused me problems before and I’m not a saint. I will lie to protect someone from harm or ridicule. Xx
Hi Rebecca,
I don’t know what it is, but why do we have to downplay it when someone compliments us? I do the same thing. I still admire your openness and honesty even if you’re willing to lie to protect someone.
We’re human and we do what we have to do to survive. And that’s ok.
Hi Leigh,
Yes, I saw the beautiful horse and the lovely scenery! Xx I follow HG on instagram and commented on that beautiful male horse. Xx
Where do you think HG is? Xx
HG, Is that your horse? Xx
No.
Thank you for your reply HG xx
Rebecca, I’m not on Instagram, but imagine HG atop a black stallion with a long cape flowing out behind him. A helmet with a plume protecting his magnificent mind…
Dani,
I imagine HG wearing a Plague Doctor mask and saying, “BRING ME YOUR WOUNDED! ” xx
So I could prolong their agony.
😄 HG,
Don’t forget the experiments that Plague Doctors do…..and it is Halloween time, time to get in the festive mood….with your dark suit, mask and dark horse….I’m picturing the Headless Horseman now! Throwing flaming pumpkins at people’s heads! Please tell us a scary story, HG, I’d love to hear them from you! Xx
Hi Leigh,
I don’t know what it is about us either, I know when I get complimented, I feel awkward and I’ll laugh. All I know how to do is thank them, but I do appreciate the compliment. I just wish I didn’t feel so awkward about it. Xx
Maybe it’s because we are not used to compliments, more used to ridicule? My narc mother rarely complimented, but if you did something wrong, you knew right away! She didn’t let it slide either. Xx
I’m the same. Its difficult for me to accept compliments. When someone points out a positive, I right away point out a negative. So if someone compliments my hair, I’ll say, “Look at all the gray though.” I don’t know why but I have this need to downplay any compliments.
I don’t know if its because of my upbringing though. My parents actually told me I was smart and beautiful. I just had a mouth on my so I got my ass whooped by my father a lot. My mother was neglectful and so I had to be the adult early on. But I still have trouble accepting compliments. I’m often embarrassed and it makes me feel awkward as well. So interesting.
Leigh,
I don’t point out negatives about myself verbally, when someone compliments me, I think about my imperfections, while they compliment me….maybe that plays at part of how awkward I feel? Not sure. Xx
Rebecca and Leigh–
Two of the sweetest fruits on the tree.
Awww! Thank you, Allison! I feel the same about you!
Thanks Allison,
You’re not a bad apple yourself! 😄xx
Hi Rebecca,
Allison’s compliment is a good example of how I turn a positive compliment into something negative in my head.
After reading it, my first thought was, “I’m more sour than sweet.”
Rebecca, Leigh–
Do compliments ever make you feel obligated to continue living up to them?
Hi Dani,
It depends on the compliment. There are certain things about myself that I know to be true. I have a strong work ethic and I get things done quickly and efficiently. Work smarter not harder. So if someone compliments me in that regard, yes, I expect myself to live up to that compliment.
If I don’t think the compliment is genuine, no I don’t expect myself to live up to it.
If it’s something that I don’t believe about myself, I’ll question it. I might try to live up to it if I think the compliment is genuine even if I dont believe it about myself Allison’s compliment is a perfect example. I don’t see myself as sweet at all. I think I lean towards mean. I know that Allison meant when she said though, so I’ll try to put in extra effort to be kind.
Dani,
Yes, I do feel a need to not disappont their compliment. I hold myself to their standards of acceptability…my obligation I feel to them. Xx
Thank you, Rebecca.
Thank you, Leigh.
Leigh,
My first thought about myself, after reading Allison’s comment, was that I have a bad temper sometimes and I sometimes talk back. Xx
Rebecca,
We’re like peas in a pod! I have a bad temper and like to talk back too!
You’re welcome Dani xx
Leigh,
Let’s hope HG doesn’t like pea soup! 😄xx
Hi, Leigh–
“I’m more sour than sweet.”
That’s okay. I love a little tart.
The ultimate luxury in life is to be yourself. Just be yourself. HG is a human being walking the Earth like all of us. I think he got me at “ Hello this is H.G. Tudor. He is someone you will appreciate with consults. Always knows by if needed you can unleash his insights!
One more thing. My first husband was diagnosed as antisocial. I watched your videos on psychopathy and he was very different than you in many ways. 1. Is there a spectrum of antisocial with psychopathy being considered sort of a top of the spectrum? My child evaluator who was the top psychologist in Orange County California advised me that there was. She said many criminals were antisocial like my ex. She referenced Robert Hare. I thought Ted Bundy! “ You are giving 20% custody to Ted Bundy!” and I had read the Sociopath Nextdoor at the time. I was panicked. But she said criminals can be good fathers and the children will get all the love and nurture that they need from you. I said but he is rich rich, I am just a professional rich. She said children do gravitate towards the money but they also gravitate to love. She was right! I got 80% custody. In hindsight she was right. He showed up. He taught business, money, self defense but I predominated as I am the nurture. I am the love. Kids know who is who. Just like the good doctor said. But it was a scary time. The diagnosis of antisocial was scary but psychopathy is scarier. You get it. 2. Do you see a difference between antisocial, sociopaths and psychopaths? 3. How can you tell the difference between a narcissist psychopath or a narc or a pure psychopath?
4. Finally a subject you never discuss is pedophilia? Does it occur with narcs?
You see I tend to lump all killers and pedophiles as just psychopaths, never narcs. I think that’s a common mistake and I think from watching TV. How on Earth you can separate these types when there is a murder or serial murder such as psychopaths, sociopaths, antisocial and narcs is beyond me. For example, I thought Lucy Letby was a psychopath who enjoyed playing God but you got into nuances that educated me. But some of us, (me!) need more help and really want to know:)
Contagious–
3. “You see I tend to lump all killers and pedophiles as just psychopaths, never narcs…”
If I remember correctly HG once mentioned that pedophilia tendency occur from normals, if not even more than from narcissists. It was either in an interview or in comments. And since normals form the largest group on the planet…
(Please correct me if I remembered it wrong.)
2. HG made a video on Psychopath v Sociopath, if you haven’t seen it. It’s here:
Hey Jordy! Hope all is well. I know that video but there are so many questions I have on ASPD. For example, Ted Bundy has been diagnosed as both a narcissist and a psychopath. Is that a narcisstic psychopath? Or two co- morbidities? Plus he was both cold and calculated in killings. Psychopath but when he escalated he killed in spur of the moment reckless heated fury. Why both? The DSM lumps them together as one but I see differences. Robert Hare a leader on ASPD says there is a spectrum. Milder traits like your average Joe their and severe traits like the Ted Bundy serial killers. I tend to agree as my ex husband was diagnosed ASPD and he was a criminal, but he got 20% custody. I wanted full. I thought omg Ted Bundy! But bs k then 20+ years ago the top child psychologist told me criminals can be good fathers, and all the nurture children needs will come from me. She was right. He was an ok dad. Showed up. Paid child support. He is involved but he has limitations. If a superstar, great. If a failure like his son with drug issues etc… he will neglect. He is rich and good at business but loves to cut corners legally and does not teach values. But he is nothing like Ted Bundy. I read so much on the subject back then including the Sociopath Nextdoor. It left me with more questions then answers. I think you are born with brain differences yet some say a lack of control environment can excel things. Yet some psychopaths come from fairly normal backgrounds like Ted Bundy and Jeffrey dalmer. I heard a psychologist on Nancy grace call p diddy a psychopath. I find there are a lot of mixed diagnoses on psychopaths/ narcissists. I look forward to learning more from H.G.! My take is unlike narcissists who need fuel. Psychopaths are reckless, goal oriented and thus can jump up and down in the ASPD spectrum depending on circumstances. Also I think psychopathy if coupled with narcissism always predominates. What do you think?
I only briefly ever watched Ted Bundy stuff. From what I understood he was like Lucy Letby. I don’t remember her exact classification, but definitely a psychopath with a sadistic streak.
Jordy,
Letby was not classed as a psychopath. She did earn the sadistic streak and she has psychopathic tendencies. But there weren’t enough criteria by Tudor standards to get to psychopath…I saw a forensic psychologist also say she wasn’t a psychopath.
One main thing that stood out to me, arguing against the psychopathy (and confirmed by Mr. Tudor)…was how she didn’t go to listen to victim impact statements. Too many threats to control, I would guess. A psychopath would want to listen to all the pain they caused…that’s how I understood it…they would revel in it.
Hi Dani! Her expert diagnosed her as borderline! Dr Philip Joseph, a psychiatrist. The prosecution attacked it bringing their own experts. Now we all know what H.G. says about BPD. So the psychiatrist sort of confirmed his analysis. The DSM does not use the term sociopath or psychopath just ASPD. I love his new channel and I think H.G. will answer a lot of my questions. The APA and NIH, Dr Robert Hare and Dr Kevin Dutton all say many psychopaths don’t kill or even commit crimes. It’s popular TV and high profile cases like Ted Bundy who lead people to think so. But hey, H.G. will provide a fresh insight and I look forward to it!
Contagious,
We do know what Mr. Tudor says of borderlines. There’s an excellent video about it. True about the DSM.
Hare came up with a psychopathy checklist regarding criminals. So he is responsible in part for the association of criminals with psychopathic traits.
I agree. Love the new channel. I’m really excited for more there. It’s completely riveting.
Dani, I think the brain scans of Letby and Bundy would’ve been identical. Letby is worse. Bundy’s victims at least had a millimeter of chance not to get in his car, to shy away from him, to listen to their gut or whatever hint or clue… Letby is a monster.
Yes, she didn’t go to listen to victim impact statements, but if I remember correctly she searched out victim’s facebook profiles to check on the impact she left, prior to prison.
I think the terms narcissist and psychopath get thrown around a lot, pretty recklessly, especially in the popular media. I think it’s titillating to promote the knife-wielding maniac image of the psychopath. I’m learning a lot from the new channel and as it grows it’ll be exciting to see accurate information get out there–also, *sigh* certain people can’t help but steal. And now whenever I see or hear BPD I automatically translate it according to HG’s insights and things make a lot more sense in terms of behavior.
I met a woman a few weeks ago who was talking on and on unprompted about her BPD diagnosis. Just going on. She was even passing out these little zines about herself that she’d hand drawn individually touting her BPD “superpower”. With those indicators I didn’t go any further with her.
Well done on applying the knowledge. It’s also important to highlight it also, not to the speaker but to others.
Hey Jordy:
I agree that babies tortured is somehow worse than women tortured but in the end, HG said Letby was a narc and we both agree both are awful. Treating doctors diagnosed Ted Bundy as a psychopath. Dr Dorothy Lewis. The famous Dr Robert Hare met and assessed Bundy as a psychopath with narcissistic traits. See? Both are killers. Both engaged in sadism. Both had multiple victims. Both had seemingly normal childhoods. HG peeled back some indicators of instability in Letby, and there are indicators as Ted was raised by his grandparents. But you see? I would probably say Ted was a narcissist? He was a lawyer, charmed people into his car. Escaped prison. Manipulated others. Liked attention. And what was his ultimate goal? It’s sad that’s it is reported that he wanted control and had violent sexual fantasies. Letby didn’t come off to me as charismatic. Plus I thought that her goal was to play God. But HG analysis revealed things I had not considered. Like at court, she didn’t own her kills. I think that I am too persuaded by media so when a serial killer, I think yup … psychopath. Yet I read the FBI’s analysis. It doesn’t fit with what we see on tv either. I will read more on psychopaths by HG as we go along. I think I am confused when it comes to killers especially serial killers. I mean could a goal be to kill as many possible? And why does this theory seem implausible like I am missing something. They are rare too, we only get famous examples like Bundy, Gacy … like HG says more of them plunder in the financial world.
Hi, Contagious–
“I mean could a goal be to kill as many possible?”
That’s an interesting question. Maybe a psychopath who engages in killing lots of people might be after the stimulation–the hunt, the selection of victims, being able to do it just because they can. Maybe they don’t do it for the numbers specifically, but the need for stimulation drives the numbers higher.
Perhaps they predominate in the financial sector because the victims are left alive, to suffer.
I wonder if keeping trophies from kills differs among the various types.
Something I noticed in HG’s “If You Go Into the Woods…” series was how he stalked his prey. After observing them and determining the dynamics and their personalities he correctly judged that they would keep to the path. So, instead of following behind, he placed himself so he would approach them the other way. That way, it wouldn’t seem they were being followed. I’ve considered what would have happened had he seen they were more adventurous. I know he would have come up with something equally effective, but it makes me curious.
Interesting Allison…
Dr. Robert Hare found 1% of the population to be psychopaths/ASPD ( lucky me I married one) but 15-25% in prison populations. Of these statistics, 15%-30% are violent offenders. He backed this up by criminal justice reports etc…. But it is true not all psychopaths are violent. But you must admit a high percent. I would say the financial ones want money and power. I read an article in the New Yorker about the billionaires “that Trump needs. “ There has been over 5 billion spent by both sides reportedly in this campaign by both sides. Trump promises them cabinet positions ( and delivers), promises unrestricted drilling, tax cuts ( went from 35% to 21% for corporations during his term). With Yass, worth 49.6 billion, he got Trump into Truth Social which made Trump 3 billion. And the democrats have more billionaires ( just donate less). The article doesn’t mention What promises were made. Did the Koch brothers finance the overturn of Roe v Wade? My point is that giving 90 million to a campaign ( Adelson) or outrageous sums seems to defeat the democratic process. It’s all about power and money. Now are any psychopaths?
Now as to violent offenders, it’s not the majority but high. Dr. Hare spoke of manipulation and that might be the hunt and the thrill of the hunt is real but not a primal instinct per Hare but psychopaths per Hare have goal seeking motives. It’s power and control. Motive.
So in a rare case like Bundy rape and murder are the ultimate control.Bundy stated to Hare, he got psychological gratification from killing. Control. Power. A sense of authority. Others that I read said he had revenge issues against women and even compulsive urges. Bundy got off on violent sex. Ramirez was the same although he also was a satanist. Jeffrey Dahmer the same. John Wayne Gacy the same although repressed homosexuality was a factor in choosing boys. Two motives: killing is the ultimate control combined with a desire to violently have sex. A thrill?
Many psychopaths don’t even commit crimes I read.
As to young HG, no signs of a desire for death, or a desire for violent sex. His In the Woods series shows a desire for the girl. And without a doubt he will achieve that goal… but what will he do to the brother to get it… stay tuned lol
Hi, Viol.–
“The Sean Combs series is well worth listening to, as unpleasant as the facts are.”
I completely agree! I’ve really benefitted from the TOW series in terms of examples of narcissism in action, but the Diddy one is especially helpful. I’m not into rap, but I have always recognized that The Diddler wasn’t good at it. He seemed to be more of a collector and mover of other people’s talent. I could never figure out why he was so prominent, other than his ability to manipulate. It seems he made most of his billions from his deals with alcohol.
I’m really glad HG had the foresight to provide analysis of Diddy before all this came to light. The facts are unpleasant, but necessary to understand what we’re dealing with.
Somehow Diddy’s cartoon villain levels of vile behavior and HG’s analysis of him really makes narcissism more plain. And me less fearful of narcissists. Not that I feel like I should stride into the middle of their ranks or interact with any of them purposefully, but like there’s a certain predicable quality to them as types. HG’s term “Hollywood Sickness” expresses it perfectly, especially as he uses it as applicable beyond Hollywood. There is a sickness, and there are bearers of it, and the sickness thrives under certain conditions, and I should avoid them if I don’t want to get infected.
I’m expecting the criminal trial and the civil procedures to be quite sickening, and should the accusations bear out we’re all going to need cleansing.
I wouldn’t want to see the medical records.
I understand not wanting to see those records, Viol. Actually, I do want to see them, or at least know what’s in them. I’d shudder, but I’m very interested in that type of thing. They can be such stark evidence of how narcissists impact people. They lift the veil and I wish we could actually view them. In several high profile cases they’ve been an unyielding witness to life with the narcissist and abuser.
Hearing a report is the next best thing. For instance, I found it very impactful to hear about Johnny Depp’s loss of part of his finger due to Amber Heard’s abuse. Not only is that a reality, but it also speaks to being sliced up by the narcissist in other ways. You always lose something, you always get bruises, you’re always left broken, you catch disease–you hurt. Always. Medical records are a logical, unemotional, banal record of that evil. They make me uncomfortable, but I still want to see them because they strip away the lies.
Hello Allison: I think the videotapes, he had 250 cameras and 91 cellphones that the Feds took but have not revealed stating they will be released see at trial will have more scary images than medical images….
I wish federal trials had cameras in court. Diddy’s narcissistic control of images–his and everyone else’s through surreptitious recording and blackmail–would be very instructive. I’d be curious to see his reaction in real time to the exposure of those images. What would he do?
People really need to understand the underlying Hollywood Sickness and how images are used, created, exchanged, withheld, and so forth. And why.
I find the sheer quantity of recording devices indicative. I hope that reporters attending the trial can provide posts and details about courtroom reactions to the videos, especially the defendant’s. Everybody will get a dose of Puffy Flavor.
Penicillin. I’d like some penicillin now.
Hi Allison:
I must admit that I want to see the trial on many levels. First, as a former prosecutor, I am interested in the RICO case which is almost always applied to organized crime. I read others have been indicted but none famous like Sean Combs. But RICO allows you to go back beyond crimes that would be barred by the statute of limitation such as his beatings of a record exec, a football coach, past DV, incidents at parties he organizes over 10 years ago. But Puffy isn’t the mafia so it will be interesting from a legal standpoint how these laws are applied. It could send a message. Shivers down a narc. Let’s hope so.
annaamel says “I believe if he did an IIRTW the opinions of his construct would be censored by the part of his construct that is focused on the prime aims or by the facade.”
I considered this for a moment and wondered whether HG’s ‘construct’ may offer a variation (or, a different perception) of his words / thoughts should he create a part of his IIRMW ie where he is at present (ie Tudor Towers), do some more of his IIRMW from another location ie somewhere else other than Tudor Towers. Would HG’s construct ‘project’ differently?
I would like to comment on the IIRMW YouTube video with Trevor Coult MC.
Generally speaking, I thought Trevor’s views were both amusing and sensible and there were several I agreed with. I thought his jungle full of chimpanzees was a unique kind of judicial system. It paints an amusing picture and it’s a much simpler way for Trevor to dole out ‘justice’.
My comment here is specifically about one point Trevor made that I feel really needs to be mentioned and corrected.
Trevor said that his No. 1 Foundational Policy would be: Investment in children as early as five.
To quote Trevor, he said: “Children are the future; we invest in them as early as the age of five years of age. Before that, children are just thick as f*ck. When they get to five, they start to really get their moral and verbal skills starting to go, so that’s when we start investing in them.”
When I listened to this part of Trevor’s ‘world’ view, I reacted by strongly saying: “OMG, no – babies are not thick!”
Children are not ‘thick’ at any point in time. From the moment a baby is born, his or her brain is extremely impressionable and malleable. Even while still in their mother’s womb, a baby is ‘learning’ and is influenced by its environment.
A newborn takes in everything. The major thing to remember is that a baby is not reacting to things ‘cognitively’ A baby’s brain is not developed in relation to ‘cognition’. Instead, the way a baby reacts and learns is through sensation – through his or her senses – and these sensations translate to EMOTION.
Since cognition is not yet developed, a baby uses sensation. This is why caregivers are so important. A caregiver who responds to a baby with sensitivity and care, who learns how to meet the baby’s individual and unique needs – for comfort, feeding, rest, play, to be calmed, to be communicated with, etc – this is so important from day one.
It is also important from day one to foster a positive connection with a baby.
Babies are never ‘thick’ or stupid or unable to learn. In fact, I would go so far as to say that the very early years are the most important with regard to fostering positive connections and empathy.
WN–
I completely and whole-heartedly agree with what you’ve said about babies and how important positive interactions are with them from Day One.
Thank you, Dani, your reply and emphatic agreement is appreciated.
When the wide-ranging subject of ‘narcissism’ is considered from numerous different angles and perspectives, it becomes more and more evident that the earliest years of a child’s life are profoundly important.
As HG often explains, the two ingredients that ‘create’ a narcissist are:
1) the genetic predisposition; and
2) a LOCE.
The ingredient that *can* be changed and/or monitored is the LOCE. This is the all-important factor in which people do have an extent of control and input.
And since Annaamel requested of me to be more clear and don’t talk in riddles; the water-polluting riddle is about empathic schools.
An empathic school of wider emotional empathy range would not be able to sit quietly, knowing (feeling) that there are people behind the utopian walls – suffering. Following their design of wanting to heal and fix those empaths would struggle to either keep their feelings and emotions in check where they’d empathise with the suffering population feeling their pain, or/and wanting to take action and do something about it — heal and fix.
The filtering solution which would prevent ’polluted water’ from entering the ’river system’ would work for normals and empathic schools where the standard empathy forms a larger layer compared to other layers on top of it (super, contagion, codependent) , forming the position “We can’t be bothered by what goes on behind Utopia’s walls. Which brings us to King Trevor’s Utopia.
His Majesty presented a thoughtful approach and it was a delight to follow his conversation with the Ultra!
I’d like to ask King Trevor and other nations to consider the following.
To make criminals die in pain and torture (from the hands of chimpanzees in Trevor’s Utopia) in a way turns you into those who showed no mercy when they tortured and killed.
Even though your (Trevor) Utopia would be protected by walls of impenetrable nature blocking the screams of the tortured, amongst your nation would probably be those whose hearing is not affected by walls. They would know about what’s going on and still “hear” the screams behind the walls. And they would not understand the cruelty placed on those who once were in the position of helplessness as crimes were performed against them and formed their criminal behavior or simply those whose neurological and genetic preamble hindered them from becoming a sane element of society and led to their crimes.
It’s probable that the fault lies within the utopian society as a whole which enabled the circumstance where criminals came into development and it’s not solely a fault of one entity but a result of a domino effect just revealing the final picture through the hands of the criminal. Either a street criminal or a nation’s leader.
True Kings show mercy in the eyes of injustice of all kinds, which enables them to heal the wounds which mudd their sight of a King’s Lionheart. And justice is not a tool for further cruelty. You wouldn’t want your children or your nation to become blinded by emotional thinking, where they need to apply a sane approach to justice.
Haha, well, you can blame Victoropia for the woes of the world, no problem. But remember, it is narcs who twist things, in their own minds and to any who will listen, to be the innocent party’s fault.
Fwiw, it is the Super in me that would cause me to be able to turn a blind eye to the calamity of those who caused the problem. If others who have been affected by the scoundrels, from outside of my city, would reach out and negotiations were accomplished where we became allies, we may be willing to help them in what they would need to fix their situation also. Depending on what they wanted to do for the fix.
Thank you for the game Jordy. 🙂
Naa no blame. It’s just a strange development or evolution or path where this all happens and we have to figure it out.
love reading your thoughts😚)
In Algia–
1. Foreign Secretary: Mel Brooks. That’s obvious.
2. Chief Scientific Officer: Ash (from Alien)
3. Exchequer Secretary to the Treasury: Sam Bankman-Fried. He has bold ideas.
4. Major ally: Wonderland. Great system. Excellent trading partners. We share a language.
5. Main enemy? (Would you nuke it out of existence?): It’s hard to pick a primary one. They’re all very ticked off at us, plotting endlessly against us, and we hate almost everyone. But for now, Utopia is really giving us the dry heaves. Screw those bastards and their pie in the sky ideas. However, we won’t nuke them–everyone expects it.
6. Would any particular group not be welcomed in your country? Absolutely. People who give unsolicited advice. No end of trouble.
aaaaaaa Mel Brooks. Now it makes sense.
What are the 5 Policies of Algia?
Ordinarily, our policies are secret and known only to myself, Empress of Algia, for my sole protection through subterfuge. But I like you. The number and kind of policies varies hourly, but here are five examples from the archives:
1) No citizen may ask the question “Can you smell what I’m cookin’?” unless he or she is indeed cooking and it is a sincere question. Violators of this policy will be banished to outer darkness.
2) Any little girl (who is a citizen) who exhibits unbecoming signs of joy and contentment shall be confined to an oak barrel with only one small opening through which to receive nourishment and one to expel waste until midnight of her 17th birthday. At that time, the holes are to be sealed completely. (See “Twain Principles”, book 3, section A.)
3) All outworlders, including tourists, asylum-seekers, people going for a walk, and other strangers shall be looked upon with the highest levels of suspicion. Any of these outsiders who speak well of or kindly to the empress shall be detained for interrogation and–in cases of normalcy–tarred, feathered, and deported.
4) No stupid people.
5) Each year on her birthday your empress shall demand and be provided from the wealth of her people: five bushels of fresh peaches, birch rods, ten yards of black Mulberry silk, three sets of leather ankle cuffs, and two strong, horny, sapphic women with something to prove.
These and all policies of Algia may be amended, enforced, willfully misconstrued, swept under the rug, ignored, forgotten, or applied without warning or good taste by your empress. So there.
“Have I become mad? I am afraid so, but let me tell you something, the best people are.”
Is Alice in trouble? lol
I have a Wonderland collection and loved the V&A exhibit two years ago! Good choice of allies!
No trouble at all for Alice. Her emotional thinking is getting under control.
This world building exercise has been a really engaging and even enjoyable way to learn about narcissism and my own traits. I also got the chance to viscerally experience the attraction to the leadership realm for narcissists and to appreciate Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth’s life of service even more.
Nothing like imagining absolute power to show me my own potential for absolute corruption.
Just had a call with Utopia. They asked to pass on their unsolicited advice:
“We’d be happy to let Algia suffer in peace. However Algia’s ejection of hurt permeates the ground reaching the water reservoirs and pollutes the water supplies of Utopia. Our citizens began to complain and all that jazz. Utopia observes LOCE emerging from our weakest link. Perhaps Wonderland could intervene?”
See? Troublemakers.
Algia’s pain acts like a siren call to Utopia. ’Build it and they will come’…
We couldn’t talk them out of it. Utopia prepares their secret weapon to lounge… Make sure Mr. Ash gives a check to the Corden installation.
Utopia bears the seed of its own destruction.
Could it be then if only Utopia would identify that seed it would become impregnable…
ALLISON! Did you see it??!!! Trevor –> UTOPIA!!!
He even used the ‘seed’ thing. “You reap what you sow” is their motto…🙀
How did you know??
Utopia would drop a nuclear bomb on their enemy👎👎 BUT if the wind turns direction and brings the nuke-cloud back, it’ll rain down and Utopias citizens begin to lose hair and develop diseases with time…(You reap what you sow.)
(Algia: Utopia bears the seed of its own destruction.)
Algia🫶
Hi, Jordyguin . No, I hadn’t seen Trevor. I’ve been working a lot in my statistics class so I need to catch up. Sounds like he could be a spy.
Not sure the Utopia you speak of but it is most assuredly not mine. Two reasons, one, I’ve not had a call with you, and two, live and let live is the rule here. If Algia polluted the water, we would simply build a water filtration system to bring the water back to delicious potability, the end. No complaiing or unsolicited advice necessary.
Maybe A Victor is in what we call West Utopia over here. We try to differentiate by location, but we treat them all the same as they can’t be trusted.
When we first heard of the first one we thought they were a good place. Then we saw their marketing and it turned out they only sounded good because it was a pun. Then new Utopias kept popping up all over and it got really hard to tell them apart. One would quickly go tits up and then two others would take its (no) place. Utopia sure makes geopolitics a challenge. There’s nowhere like it.
Can’t be your Utopia, no. I think Algia meant another Utopia also. Might be King Trevor’s. Might be Nancytopia…
Yours would be Victortopia, I’d assume.
Filters? Who is paying for it? What materials are you using? Sounds cool!
AV,
“Live and let live” is a fantastic motto, I fully agree with Victortopia, it’s the way it should be. However it requires a very high level of self responsibility and accountability on each citizen’s part, which would indeed form a utopian society of correspondence and thriving progress. Where the ability for self responsibility and accountability for one’s own impact and actions is absent, “Live and let live” becomes the mantle for “Be quiet and tolerate”. You see, it is the transatlantic cousins main challenge they’re repeatedly faced with by their divided nation and government.
Let’s say if Victortopia has gotten to the point where the society is no longer divided and everything is rosy, the question would be how did you get there? What policies, what cabinet mixture has got you to that point? The exercise of IIRMW is to go through the thought process step by step and see for yourself what forms a harmonious, balanced nation and what are the challenges, people in power positions would face (in today’s society) and how they can be solved by different classifications of empaths, normals, etc.
I could say; please take it more seriously AV, and not just on a superficial level, or I could say; live and let live and don’t care about how AV chooses to participate in this exercise.
Haha, well, you are certainly not one to live and let live. Have fun with the project Jordy. I have an actual life to live. 😘
Haha, Allison! I love your skepticism! Thank you! And… You are wise in your caution…! 🙂
Hi Jordy,
I just saw the following, after writing my reply to your Oct 1 comment to me. I wish I would’ve seen this first:
“Can’t be your Utopia, no. I think Algia meant another Utopia also. Might be King Trevor’s. Might be Nancytopia…
Yours would be Victortopia, I’d assume.
Filters? Who is paying for it? What materials are you using? Sounds cool!”
A small correction on the name, Victoropia, to answer your first question.
The people of Victoropia would pay via the taxes. Yes, there are taxes in my Utopia but they are fair and used wisely, according to consensus via platforms and votes.
We have the materials and ingenuity that we need, many of the people of Victropia are intelligent and well learned, creative and inventive. For those gifted in other ways, we recognize that all have something to offer, we appreciate the diversity.
I hope this helps you understand a bit more of the world I would strive to create if I ruled.
As for how much time each puts into this, in my world, that is for each to decide, without judgement or condemnation.
Have a good day Jordy.
Hi AV, all good.
This question springs to mind (and it’s a real life situation):
Filters are the best first aid solution to save your waters and people. If your neighbour country (not Algia, but let’s say Dullandia) would pollute your rivers with toxic waste, they obviously don’t follow the maxim of “Live and let live”. They don’t give a fig if you live whilst you invest in better and better filters they simply continue to dump waste until all your budget would end on constant filter production. Your people’s patience would also end at one point asking its leader; why is it just us who must let others live but they don’t return the favor, forcing us to deal with their garbage? Furthermore the pollution begins to spread and not just your country would be forced to invest in filters and endure the unaccountable source of the problem.
It segways into the next question: Is there even the necessity to shoulder responsibility for unaccountable people?
No, no need to shoulder another responsibility, not unless one chooses to, and that’s best done only after careful consideration and boundaries are set.
In my beautiful land, we adhere to self sufficiency, at an individual as well as at a corporate level. We would pursue alternate water sources and potentially either shift the natural flow of the polluted water back to the offending land or allow it to course through ours but with signs not to enter or consume. That decision would be based on issues such as the type of contaminant, the beauty of the water, the cost and difficulty of redirecting the flow, etc.
The beauty of live and let live is that we don’t have to give a fig about their issues with how we respond to their rudeness and irresponsibility.
AV, LOVE IT!!!!😘😘
Thanks! 😊
PART 1
1. What is the name of your country?
Elarine — it is a combination of the two names Elas and Marine.
Elas (English) is a topographic name from Middle atte(n) elmes ’at the elm-trees’ for someone who lived by elm-trees. Elas also comes from the Aramaic word Elah meaing “oak”.
Marine — meaning of the name is “from the sea”.
Two important aspects are represented in the name Elarine — the country is strong as an oak and indomitable as the sea.
2. What is the capital of your country?
Vit
(latin: vit = life)
3. What is your seat of power?
The Shire.
4. What is your national anthem?
Riddle of Strider:
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.
From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken,
The crownless again shall be king.
5. What is your national dish?
Apples of Eden.
6. What is your national animal?
The Wolf.
Wolfs have extraordinary pack structures! Be it breeding or hierarchy wise. The wolf pack embodies the idea of small communities which build upon strong family packs.
7. What is the flag of your country?
The Flag is divided in two sections. Two species facing each other. A golden raven and a silver unicorn.
The symbolism behind it. Birds are the descendants of dinosaurs and the raven represents our reptilian part of the brain in its evolved state, when we become aware of our instincts (illogical responses) and can no longer be ruled by them.
The horse with a horn (unicorn) represents our mammal part of brain with an evolutionary addition – the horn – which represents the antennae into the realm of intuition and feelings.
Facing each other — they acknowledge each other’s existence and necessity of moving forward together in their evolved states.
The color of the flag and the material is such that it would reveal different shades of blue when it would wave in the wind. The blue palette represents the water — the blood of life — and stands for different stages of transformation (freezing, melting, condensation, vaporisation). Water is the ’soil’ of fluidity and adaptability upon which life for the two species flows as they evolve and prosper.
8. What is the national motto of your country?
Make Your Homeplanet Healthy Again.
9. What is the national day of your country?
The date is December 12th.
The number 12 is significant because; the 12-pointed star, also known as the Dodecagram, is an ancient symbol rich in meaning and symbolizes creation, balance, harmony, and cyclical nature (12 hours, 12 month, 12 zodiacs, 12 Knights of the Round Table, 12-pointed crown…).
The name of the national day is — When dreams awake.
December is the darkest month of the year when nature is in deep slumber and dreams of all kinds can be dreamed now. It’s a day of self reflection, when the attention goes inward and the ’dreams’ (our goals) which have manifested are reviewed, preparing the room for the new dreams to come in and awake into new existence.
Celebrated in a way which will suit each individual’s needs on this day throughout the day. In the evening everyone gathers and celebrates together. Inspirational atmosphere of fireplaces, candellights; music and songs are played and sung as they reflect the ’letting go’ followed up by ’new dreams awake’ motto covering all moods which are gathered and dream forward what is yet to come.
Formation of the Cabinet.
12 Knights of The Round Table and King Arthur, personalities.
Our King is William, Prince of Wales.
Key positions of The Round Table.
1. Defence Chief:
John Wick. Mr. Wick gives you a chance to leave peacefully.
2. Foreign Secretary:
Lady Galadriel — sees through people and cannot be corrupted by the main ring of power.
3. Chief Scientific Officer:
James Cameron. Mr. Cameron balances science and nature and knows what to prioritize.
4. Exchequer Secretary:
Keanu Reeves — is the highest paid actor in history for a single production and yet he cannot be corrupted by money or fame. He leads a modest life and makes significant charitable donations. His priorities are the people.
5. Minister for Fun:
Indiana Jones. Mr. Jones brings fun adventures with him everywhere he goes.
6. Which country would you see as your major ally?
Lichtenstein — they went with 80 men to war to defend a road and came back with 81 men because one officer from Austria thought they were so chill and joined them so they are the only country to come back with more men in the war than they left.
7. Which country would be your main enemy?
We haven’t had enemies since we allied with Lichtenstein.
8. Would any particular group not be welcomed in your country?
A group which is alien to earth. A group which doesn’t care about the health of the planet and its inhabitants as a whole and does not make changes to adapt and preserve the balance of nature and doesn’t recognise human’s essential part in it. Everyone who wants to learn how to make the transition and not extinction is welcomed in Elarine.
Policies of Elarine.
1) Two Kinds — One Planet.
The Government of Elarine acknowledges two different kinds living on our planet. The intentions of Earth’s population are spread across the spectrum of emotional empathy and the absence of it.
The works of HG Tudor are part of the educational system in Elarine and are taught in schools and universities in order to give everyone a chance, including people with absent emotional empathy, to recognise the impact of the dynamics of two different kinds and how it manifests in regard of the consequences affecting our planet’s environment, the social structure and the social system.
The education system of Elarine takes inspiration from diverse insights around the globe and puts it to the test. It includes a diverse approach in accordance with the personality type of an individual.
2) Transition to Connection.
Be it in Plant or Animal Kingdom — the artificial experimenting on plant and organic life which result in mutations, unhealthy organisms and damaged reproductive systems, invading the genome of life to the point where the organism struggles to self heal and adapt, disrupting biodiversity’s delicate cycles — is prohibited in Elarine.
Artificial mutations require more energy and resources to keep them at bay from further degradation and the damaging impact they create, than they produce as an active element of nature’s or societal needs of a healthy environment.
Understanding of nature’s requirements for a healthy reproduction and a healthy environment impacts directly on the overall physical and mental health of the individual. The understanding of this essential connection is implemented in all sections and fields of the society in Elarine. Science and technological advancement is no longer performed to the detriment of nature’s well-being or/and to the detriment of human’s well-being.
Excellent!
Thank you, Superviventia🌊🔱🌊
Hi, Jordyguin–
Nice to be here. I’ve been busy buzzing amongst all the pretty flowers.
For the important post of MOF I had in mind a shambling, headless chicken.
Yay, lovely busy bee!
Oh nooo poor chicken💔… Oh I mean ha ha ha ha❤️🩹
Who is your Defence Chief?
In Algia we hold that the best defense is a good offense. So, in the interest of being as offensive as possible our Head of Offense is actually a large portrait of James Corden made from Cheez Whiz. We used to employ a diseased rat king in the position but found it wasn’t offensive enough–people kept setting them free, then they would attack us for allowing the rats to get into such a state. But since the Corden installation our enemies flee at the sight.
Allison, I can’t😂 That’s a very effective defence strategy!
What does the name of your country – Algia mean?
What’s the capital and your seat of power?
Algia as a suffix means pain. Also, Algia as its own word is a genus of butterfly.
The City of Memory is the old capital and former seat of power. Now I rule from new capital of Willoughby.
Fascinating!
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“Alone? Oh, Willoughby, we’re always alone.”
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I think, motto, national day and national dish is next. ?
Enjoy reading all of the thoughts put in here already! (Working on mine too)
Here are HG’s questions for thought structure. (Please add or correct if I missed something)
If I ruled my nation.
Describe your country’s identity
1. What is the name of your country?
2. What is the capital of your country?
3. What is your seat of power?
4. What is your national anthem?
5. What is your national dish?
6. What is your national animal?
7. What is the flag of your country?
8. What is the national motto of your country?
9. What is the national day of your country? (date/name/ how celebrated)
Formation of your cabinet.
Key positions.
1. Who is your Defence Chief?
2. Who is your Foreign Secretary?
3. Who is your Chief Scientific Officer?
4. Who is your Exchequer Secretary to the Treasury?
5. Who is your Minister for Fun?
6. Which country would you see as your major ally?
7. Which country would be your main enemy? (Would you nuke it out of existence?)
8. Would any particular group not be welcomed in your country?
Making of your nation.
What are your 5 foundational policies? (Can be anything you wish. Deadly serious or light hearted/fictional/entertaining policies, and the mix of the two.)
National Dish: Sofa Cushion Surprise
National Motto: Misery Loves Company
National Day: February 29th/The Day of Reckoning/Celebrated by The Festival of Unwanted Hugs
If I ruled my world:
Having a baby and ensuring it is raised in ways to best foster the child’s empathy would be considered the greatest responsibility in the national interest and the nation’s future interest.
The following would be mandatory and community education and widespread media PR would create awareness to inform people of why it is mandatory:
Education about parenthood; education and assistance with early child development; early childhood personality assessments; and financial support for mandatory early childhood playgroups and childcare.
The national budget allocated to early childhood development would be equal to or greater than the national budget for defence and the military.
Young people would not be required to join the military and there would be no mandatory military training. Joining the military would be voluntary.
A young person’s life in the teen years and early 20s would be focused on their education. During this time, when a young person’s brain is still developing, the person would be protected from thoughts and knowledge about violence and trauma. Instead, their technical skills, creativity and emotional intelligence would be put to better use in progressive individual and national pursuits.
To protect the nation against foreign war-mongering and violent invasions, I would make my nation a neutral state. It would fly a white flag that communicates its intention to be peaceful and peaceable. As a neutral state, it would openly and consistently declare its intention to not take part in wars or foreign conflicts. Any breach of its borders would automatically make the breaching nation an aggressor liable to public prosecution and worldwide condemnation as a war criminal.
In business, there would be laws surrounding fairness in employment, wages, business ownership, and trade. I would stipulate both upper and lower limits for wages, executive bonuses and commissions. Tax payments would be transparent and advertised on a public website so that the incomes of, and taxes paid by, all businesses would be available to anyone who was interested.
Awareness about general health and well-being; awareness about mental health and brain activity; and awareness about healthy relationships and narcissism would be taught at schools. It would be a basic subject taught in schools that was necessary for all children to learn, just as writing, reading and maths is necessary for all children to learn.
WN,
“the person would be protected from thoughts and knowledge about violence and trauma.”
Trauma thresholds are different for each individual. I think genetics, environment, and learning to deal with stresses all play a role in the way a person responds to trauma. Not everyone who has been the IPPS of a narcissist develops CPTSD. HG has two empathic siblings and a normal half sibling.
1. Do you think first responders to a major vehicular collision would be weakened or strengthened by not having seen anything like that level of carnage? There is a learning curve for every job, and every job has its own difficulties…but how I’m interpreting what you’ve said, it sounds like a recipe for someone to suddenly experience major trauma but have no real experience with how to handle it.
Neutrality is good on paper…but how would you respond if you knew a neighbouring country was locking people up in camps as cheap labour and confiscating their property?
2. If you knew that someone like Shirou Ishii (Hundreds of thousands of people died as a result of his “medical experiments”) had come there to escape accountability, would you provide a safe haven for those responsible if other countries waged war to end such policies?
Looking forward to reading your thoughts!
Hi Dani,
After reading your reply, I’d like to emphasise a point I made in my initial comment, as follows:
“A young person’s life in the teen years and early 20s would be focused on their education. During this time, when a young person’s brain is still developing, the person would be protected from thoughts and knowledge about violence and trauma.”
Here, I specifically mentioned “a young person” aged “in the teen years and early 20s” whose “brain is still developing.”
Also, you have made me see that what I meant by “protected from thoughts and knowledge about violence and trauma” needs to be explained in more detail. The way I wrote it is too general.
On a side note, it’s difficult to explain something in detail in one brief blog comment.
To explain and clarify my thoughts:
1. In my opinion, a young person in their teens or early 20s should not be required by law to join the military.
Speaking from real-life experience, my father and his generation were required to do military training for two years (three years for some) starting from the age of 18.
In my father’s case, he had begun to learn a technical trade at the age of 16. This involved both theoretical lessons and practical ‘on-the-job’ experience. When he turned 18, he had not completed his technical theory and practical experience and was not yet fully qualified in his chosen trade.
Nevertheless, he was required to interrupt his learning to undergo mandated military training in the army for two years. He was taken away from his family home, forced to be among people he didn’t know, trained to know things and behave in ways he wasn’t prepared for, and the effects of the ‘socialisation’ experience of being in this environment, I believe, made him more cunningly aware and strategically selfish. It also taught him about rigid routines and, I believe, exacerbated his innate stubbornness.
My dad has told me some anecdotal stories of the things that happened to him while in the army. For example, one of these anecdotes was about the way the young men were required to wash and maintain their uniforms. When their dormitory was inspected before bedtime, the young men would have to lay out their uniforms, boots and socks ready for the next day of training. If some of them laid out clean socks, their clean socks were stolen before morning and replaced by someone else’s dirty socks. From this experience, my dad said he learned to lay out dirty socks at bedtime and hide his clean socks.
Another example: While in the army, my dad received gifts from his family. At one time, he received a bottle of whiskey for his birthday. When he opened his delivered package, the other young men crowded around and each of them took a swig. By the time the bottle came back to my dad, it was empty.
I’m not blaming the young men. I have empathy for them. What I’m saying is that the experience left them with a cunning attitude that fostered their narcissism rather than their empathy.
I don’t believe that forcing teenage adolescent boys to be socialised in this kind of environment is necessarily going to make better men out of them when they leave. My opinion.
Furthermore, in my father’s case, it interrupted his technical ‘civilian’ training. He resumed the training he had commenced at age 16 and received his qualification, however, there was a two-year break in the middle of it which he would have avoided if he could have.
2. Regarding the part of my comment where I said, “protected from thoughts and knowledge about violence and trauma,” I’d like to clarify.
What I meant was ‘life-threatening’ and physically and mentally irreversible dangerous thoughts and knowledge about violence and trauma.
For example, if a young person whose brain is still developing is employed to work in a doctor’s clinic, he/she will see numerous examples of the aftermath of violence and trauma and will need to learn how to work within that environment and treat those affected. The young person will not be in a life-threatening situation that places him or her in extreme physical or mental danger.
While the experience involves learning to control personal reactions and practice in what to do in such situations, it will not necessarily involve an ongoing immediate threat to personal safety.
What I’m reading in your reply is that you think empathic people need to experience major trauma and if they don’t, then they have no real experience of knowing how to “handle it.”
From your comment, I tend to see that you are buying into blanket assumptions about empathy. I think you are swallowing a false narrative that ‘empathy’ is just another word for ‘weakness’.
In fact, if you read the standard diagnostic list of behaviours linked to NPD, you will see that narcissists are often described as thinking that empathy and kindness are ‘weaknesses.’
Narcissists are mistaken. Having empathy is not a ‘weakness.’ Empathic people can and do set goals and stick to them. They can and do make tough decisions. They do make themselves and others accountable.
Getting back to your comment about needing to experience violence and trauma in order to be able to handle it, it makes me think of first responders in emergencies, or doctors and nurses in a hospital. They are at the forefront of dealing with and handling the injuries of those suffering from violence and trauma. To effectively carry out their duties, they require empathy and compassion – and – they also need to demonstrate fearlessness, decision-making and accountability.
Dani,
Your questions regarding ‘neutrality’ are complex. I will attempt to answer them to some extent.
Firstly, if I ruled my world, I would not offer a safe haven to those responsible for humanitarian atrocities.
“Humanitarian atrocities” is a grey area though.
At the moment, there are sweat-shops in China, India, and other countries, where people are paid pennies a day for their cheap labour and the products they make are sold at huge margins in foreign countries. You could classify the cheap labour as slave labour. The consumers in foreign countries buying the products don’t give the cheap, forced labour that went in to making the products as much as a fleeting thought. This has been happening for decades and doesn’t look like it’s ending anytime soon.
The manufacturing and trade policies hatched out by governments and the operating decisions made by big business are very difficult for the average person to counteract.
Even if I ruled my world, I would not know how to effectively counteract this. Hobby farms and a return to bartering organically home-grown products wouldn’t really cut it.
Hello, WN.
Thank you for explaining.
You’re welcome, Dani.
This exercise – that is, thinking about ruling our own world – is complicated. For some reason, I find it difficult to suspend reality and think about it as a fantasy.
Thank you for your replies, and I’m sorry if my message came across as blunt. Reading it now, I can see how I may have jumped to a conclusion in relation to the way you regard empathy. I think my comment comes from a feeling of impatience (in general rather than specifically from your comment) with the way ’empathy’ is often described as weak. It is depicted in stereotypical ways, as though everyone with empathy believes in unicorns and wears a daisy chain around their heads or something. The reality is actually very different.
Wow excellent policies! If only…..The only problem with neutrality is the aggressors don’t always agree. The Netherlands was a neutral country since WW1, and it was invaded by Hitler. The Dutch surrendered and were invaded until 1945. Now as someone who chose “ superheroes” as the ideal for humans to achieve the role, um, my reality testing is flawed big time:)
Hi Dani and WN:
Me and WN disagree on military conscription. For me, the military has every job under the sun that civilian life has to offer not all must be “ boots on the ground “ , it gives purpose, meaning, discipline, a community. And nothing more threatening than your able bodied men and women. Yes there is technology and nuclear threats but there is a real need for self preservation in this world. USA numbers are way down. There would be reasons to opt out. And I am biased as family including a son in the Marines. I have seen how good it has been for him. We read about mental health in the teens, not wanting to work and living at home until the 30s – economics places a huge role as does social media. But I always liked the idea of a couple years service at a young age . I am curious why others would be against it? You can do anything that is offered in civilian life in the military: be an actor, a cook, a rifleman, a stay at home mother…. What would be the downside to learning discipline, comradely, a skill or two and being paid to do so at a young age in exchange for free education or skill training after? Perhaps I am to into the Forrest I can’t see the trees?
Contagious, I’m biased too when it comes to the military but military is also known for breaking people who are not suited for it and whose strength sits within completely different fields… I like the idea of it being a free choice of the individual. Purpose, meaning, discipline and community can be taught in every other way within the chosen field of a young person…
My country would be the Superviventia ( survival in Latin)
HI Contagious–
I’m currently at odds with deciding the location of my country…I’m torn between the Earth’s Only Lunar Colony and being a tiny nation like the Vatican (in the sense of only one neighbour)…
Until I decide location…choosing an animal is a bit elusive…though I’m considering a waterbear (Weird, creepy, microscopic…has survived in the vacuum of space.), the fox, and a butterfly.
Hi Dani,
Butterfly caught my eye. I love butterflies. May I ask why its one of your choices? What does it represent to you?
Hi Leigh–
I love butterflies. I love metamorphosis (yes, there are other insects and non-insects that undergo metamorphosis…but the butterfly does it far better than the rest to my mind). I love that lepidopterans (Moths, skippers, butterflies) are one of the most diverse groups of animals. Almost 180,000 species described. Caterpillars are just as interesting to look at (to me) as butterflies. So many different features, so many adaptations. Second only to beetles (not a fan of beetles or the Beetles). I love how their colors are part pigment and part the shape of the scales. I love how they fly so delicately. They’re a refined and quiet insect. (Except for a monarch I saw the other day…clearly playing Pokemon…whizzing by outside my window). They taste with their feet. Some have antifreeze in their blood.
I like that they change so much, and I would want to encourage people to be more flexible in their thinking. (Some butterflies change color with the seasons.) I see so much narcissistic unwillingness to bend on so many issues…so much “They don’t agree with me. Ergo, they’re a threat to the existence of the world…” I love how surprising they can be…drab colors when their wings are closed and then a jewel bright color and stunning patterns inside. Sometimes you watch for a while before they open their wings. I would like to change some things about my life…and butterflies represent change to me. I can be surprising. They make me feel curious when I look at them…my only trouble would be selecting the perfect species as the national animal.
They are definitely a contender for national animal, in my book.
Hi Dani,
What a beautiful description of the butterfly! Your description truly embodied the traits and the qualities of the butterfly! It makes me love them more!
Now I’m curious and would love to hear your reasons for water bear and fox.
P.S. I’ll forgive you for not be a fan of The Beatles, lol! 😉😀
The word for butterfly in formal Greek is psyche… Psyche is the Greek goddess of the soul and often represented as a beautiful woman with butterfly wings…
Great choice, Dani! Fox and waterbear too🥰
Hi Dani,
I love butterflies too, they’re so beautiful and graceful! My favorite is the monarch butterfly because of the striking contrasting colors and even the white spots on its body and wings, so pretty. They also remind me of my maternal grandmother, she loved monarchs too. They’re the only ones who migrate long distances. They’re so unique. Xx
Hi Leigh–
Regarding Water bears: They’re microscopic. Microscopic animals get overlooked by the majority. They are so tough. They are found in some of the most extreme environments on earth: Temperatures, pressures, air deprivation (survive in space), radiation, starvation, dehydration. (Different species for different conditions.) I think they are bizarre to look at with their eight tiny clawed legs and their sucker mouth. They are “pioneer species” so they are a first animal species to move into emerging environments. (Perfect if I set my country as a lunar colony.)
Regarding Foxes: I love their cute little sounds. They’re beautiful. They’re soft. They’re smart (in reality and in fiction). Think “outfox.” They’re found in so many diverse environments. (I feel like there’s a common thread with that one.) They’ve come to thrive in urban environments. They fill folklore stories from around the world. They can be benevolent or malevolent. They’re always brilliant and often powerful users of magic/shapeshifters. The Tinneh [Apache] believe the fox stole fire for people by sticking its tail into the flame. The Lakota believe that foxes have the ability to lead people to medicinal herbs. They are very connected with the stars across multiple indigenous American cultures and the sun/moon in East Asian ones. In Celtic myths (and most European stories), the fox has great cunning and strategic thinking. A group from Peru (I think) believed the fox to be a spirit warrior who fought with the mind rather than the body. As a group…they’re called a skulk or a troop. A vixen is a female fox…and also a beautiful woman (if not always possessing the most positive traits); where I’m from it’s more of a beautiful and sly woman, not the more negative way I’ve seen it used in other parts of the English speaking world on occasion.
That’s why I would pick them.
Hi Dani,
I’m with Jordy, that’s a tough choice! I think you should go with Contagious’ idea and have all 3 as your national animal.
Dani, that really is a tough choice!👏 I’m so curious which one you’ll pick! (I picked two animals for my flag and a different one as a national animal…)
Jordy,
I’m so excited to read about your country and policies. I hope it’ll be ready soon.
🥰The first part is ready, I even drew the flag and I like how it turned out, I’m thinking of doing an actual little flag and embroidery… Working on the policies now… It’s going to take more time for the second part.
I’m so curious about everything and who you pick for what position and just everything!!!
(Dani, this may be a duplicate reply, sorry🥹)
The first part is ready, I even drew the flag and I like how it turned out, I’m thinking of doing an actual little flag and embroidery… Working on the policies now… It’s going to take more time for the second part.
I’m so curious about everything and who you pick for what position and just everything!!!
Oh Dani! Great ideas! Choose all three animals! A great balance! A tardigrade! Most needed in the rate this world is going! A lunar colony! I thought of that and chose the middle of oceans. A think a center away from all others is good! And I thought of Dolly Parton song Love is like a Butterfly! Foxes… I fed them in London so much like dogs. So damn cute! Better than coyotes in my humble opinion! X
Hello HG: This was such fun. Of course I made up my own responses which were wildly different from dear Jennifer and it reveals belief systems, rigidities, and imagination. Many of us take pop shots at world leaders and rightly so …but how many of us would want the job and how would we do it differently. I would LOVE fellow bloggers to answer your questions. I won’t go first! But fellow bloggers what would you do if you ruled the world? X
By the way HG I would love to hear yours.
Question me:
How would you rule the world. It would be a fascinating take….
I agree Contagious, it would be fun to hear everyone’s answers here…
Would A Victor’s country be a military dictatorship? AV is a winner…
Would Truthseeker be privy to the best spy network in the world? Truthseeker must seek the truth…about everyone!
Would Contagious cure the common cold and have Frenchies for the national animal?
Who knows?
Hi Dani: lol Frenchies are far too stubborn, little adorable pushy clowns to be a national emblem and then there is the… smell. Owners love them and accept their digestive limitations but the nation?
France seemed to enjoy creating them….and the dogue de Bordeaux…Gigantic slobbers…they rival the saint Bernard… In slobbering…
What would your National animal be, Contagious?
Hi Dani: my if I ruled the world was not posted. But I chose a dragon, a unicorn and a dolphin. Land air and sea. I chose mythical mostly to remove global identification and well dolphins who doesn’t love dolphins? Little smart communal whales. My capitals were in the ocean. My world is survival oriented. I think we are heading there….what’s your animal Dani?
Hi Dani: fellow dog lover! Well… the Frenchies come from the UK. The English bulldog was required to tenderize meat in the Middle Ages- designed for it. Creases for blood, visegrip mouths, short legs so back would not break. Then it was declared inhumane! They lost their jobs! So the farmers miniaturized them for adoption and the English textile workers had them as companion lapdogs. But then the industry got hit so the English textile workers moved to France. The frenchies met the bat eared rat terriers and boom: frenchies! People loved the look! But I must admit, I love the slobbers, the farters, the shedders, the barkers a lot! No discrimination lol . Inspector Clouseau and Lulu have had their last brood! It’s snip time:) I hate the idea but my vet says it is healthier too at his age (6).
Ok I will go first:
I would have a one world government of 191 ( countries in the world) separate sovereignties. The capital would be in the ocean in the middle between Europe and New York with floating bridges tying the two and satellite capitals in the ocean connecting every continent but with the capitals in the middle of every bridge between continents and in the ocean. Shells would be the curbs of the bridges and the capital would be simple circular and white in each location and of similar size. The animal emblems would be a dragon, unicorn and dolphin ( air, land and sea) the color sorcerers stone. The music would be a harp with a circle of hands held together and high,when played each member will take a moment to bless the world and its survival. Each member is entitled to its own religious choice and freedom of speech. The flag would be the sun, the moon, the stars, above the ocean. The world ruler would be chosen from each member of the sovereignty by vote but the Agreement would be supreme. Any leader violating it would be removed and that country could not vote for 5 years. In short the Agreement would be the leader not the rulers. All rulers must abide by the Agreement which is a detailed constitution of world order and ultimate survival. Each sovereign nation would have conscription. This is the cost saving fuel to improve the world and develop young adults into leadership. Every adult at 16 have military training for three years unless excused, there would also be two years of community living in gardening, fishing or hunting or in the gathering of food and water to give to the community. No restaurant or store would be permitted to throw away food. This two year commitment would be about gathering and distributing food, water and resources. Another two years would be required for mentorship or charity or serving in a daycare or elderly home. Mental health for 9 years would be provided and healthcare universal. 5-17 would be mandatory education for all despite religious belief. Another three years would be required to live in another sovereignty for three years. After completion, the young adult would be given free education or training in his or her choice of field. You can transfer to another field upon application and showing signs of good merit without having to pay back your free education. The 10 years of service in the military, food and water production, service and working overseas somewhere would pay for itself. As there would be a trained military, increase in food production, daycare and charity services for the poor and unable and educated and skilled populace to enter the workforce at 27. Crimes would be universally dealt with by removal to a hostile environment of any sovereignty where there would be mandatory work, education or skill and mental health provided but each criminal would work. Parole would only be granted if rehabilitated. Taxes would be based on a percent and redistributed accordingly to provide fairness but also to provide incentive. No one would be allowed however to hold more than 20% of the worlds wealth instead it would go the bottom 20%. This would create unequal distribution but not extreme hoarding or demonetization. Earths preservation would be the mantra. Everyone would be educated on the need to preserve the earth or die from k-17. And economic incentives to those with ideas to preserve it would win prizes and money. Art would be part of k-18 mandatory education. The cabinet would be “ superheroes” or people plucked to wear the “costume. “ Wonder Woman would be Secretary of State. T’challa would be the head of state. Aquaman would be the foreign minister as the connectors of the oceanic continents. Superman the defense secretary. Squirrel girl and Deadpool the appointees of fun but this would change every year to anyone. Iron man would be the bean counter. And there would be a Chief Technology Officer to work with AI and tech. Again the idea would be to present symbols for other humans to fill these roles based on qualifications and they would be chosen by the world leader. The chosen food would be oysters as a rare delicacy at New years surrounded by worldly picks of 191 best dishes at the inauguration of the chosen sovereignties. The ocean would be chosen as headquarters to remind the world that survival is the goal. This includes addressing hunger, wildlife, forests, the ocean, the ozone, disease, mortality etc…countries making strides in world survival would be rewarded economically. Countries failing to make strides would be penalized economically. It would be strides not actual advances. Attempts and advances not overall success as each of the 191 is not equal in resource. Ok that’s my try! I want to read others!
🥰Contagious what is your position in Superviventia? Are you in the cabinet? Are you the leader of it or advisor, or?
I would be a citizen and contributing editor to the Agreement. I have no desire to rule but to contribute. I wouldn’t mind to be appointed a head in the American sovereignty in some head of community development however or to help with diplomacy or the arts or to resolve problems that might arise 😉 I would not want to be a political leader and would be terrible in the military.
Oh this is fun! Maybe Dani’s country would be a philosophical one. Where everyone is encouraged to ask questions and has a love of knowledge and wisdom!
Leigh,
I would have the horse as my Nation’s animal and it would be on my flag too! Xx
Hi Rebecca,
I liked Stef’s idea of a lion. They’re so majestic and proud.
Leigh,
I agree lions are majestic and proud.
Horses are hardworking animals and look how they helped people over the years; on the battlefield, on the farm, in construction yards, and entertainment in shows and on the racetrack. They were there throughout the years, as society grew, their purpose changed and grew too. They’re amazingly strong and adaptable animals, much like I’d want a country to be like. Xx
Oh, that’s true, Rebecca. Horses have amazing qualities. They’re hardworking and strong. Yet they’re beautiful as well. Plus they have the ability to run wild and be free. I love that idea!
Our animal: the Cenobite.
Our flag: board with a nail in it.
Our anthem: “My Heart Will Go On”
Very majestic! I love horses!
Thanks Leigh,
I’m glad you like my Fresian idea for my country. I commented more about my ideas today. Hope you like them too. Xx
Leigh,
I would definitely ensure literacy for all and encourage the Socratic method…What would your country be like?
Hi Dani,
I wouldn’t want my own country. Its too much responsibility on my shoulders and sometimes I’m wishy washy in my decision making. I would be very happy to be an advisor or the go to person that gets things done. That’s where I would excel.
Dani do tell! And others! Why not?
“Dani do tell! And others! Why not?”
Easy tiger, we’re thinking😅 Much to think through and it’s absolutely fun to do!!! I’m stuck on the animal question already. So many great options to choose from!
But I know who I would definitely pick for the decision making part: the twelve knights of the round table and King Arthur personalities. The knights can be but don’t have to be literal knights yet have a personality with a heart of a knight; a protector and strategist with personality traits for each knight which would add to each other and balance each other out and help making rounded decisions… But I have to go through the questionnaire from the beginning… padawan, patience. lol… Love the dragon, unicorn and dolphin union!!…
I’d want to rule a world of hurt.
Allison, long time no see!
Immediate question which sprang to mind: Who would be your Minister of Fun?
Welcome back✨
Leigh,
I’d have characters from movies running things and I’d have advisors to work with, so things could be agreed upon as a group, that way different ideas can be brought to the table and voted on. Xx
Which characters? Curious!
Contagious,
To give an example of the characters I’d have running my country:
Superman would run the War Dept/ military decisions.
Wonder Woman would run the Legal Courts, can’t lie with her rope of truth around you. Imagine rapist not getting away with it anymore! And rape is punishable by gelding them. Yeah, harsh, but the crime is too. People wouldn’t fear being raped in my country and I’d make sure the rapist wouldn’t be able to do it again.
It would be called, Fresian, my country and it would be like Scotland with it’s castles and rocky cliffs, cool weather and lush fields. I would have dragons guarding the borders, to keep any threats out, that would harm the people of Fresian. I’d want it to be safe and people to be happy and content. Xx
Rebeca, I can’t wait to read about your country!!🥰 I also have some film characters and also real people in the cabinet!
Jordyguin,
The Capital of Fresian would be Heart and it would be in the center of the country. Xx
Jordyguin,
The dish of my country would be smoked salmon sandwich with chives and cream cheese, with a side of chips. Xx
Rebecca, that’s beautiful!! What a strong connection it then forms in the hearts of the people of Fresian.
“Horses….were there throughout the years, as society grew, their purpose changed and grew too. They’re amazingly strong and adaptable animals, much like I’d want a country to be like.”
This reminds me of the spirit of the Kingdom of Rohan and Riddermark❤️🔥
Jordyguin,
I believe a country has to be able to adapt to new things and ideas, to grow, otherwise they get weak and break from not learning to flex and change for the better. I’d want my country to learn and grow, to be strong. Xx
Av and Contagious,
Thanks Contagious for liking the Fresian horse I picked for my country’s animal. Xx
AV, I think how we imagine pictures is partially genetics and partially how are brains are wired, be it left dominant or right dominant brain. I’m left dominant, so I’m artistic talented and more emotional. Xx
Hi Rebecca–
In terms of Bond–I like Daniel Craig for looks best. He’s handsome and looks like he could mess someone up…whereas the aesthetics for others…I don’t find all of them to be of the same aesthetic…I do think that Connery is the next closest. (I’ve just heard Connery say things in interviews that I found so revolting that I won’t watch his Bond movies of my own volition. I would watch them only if someone with me wanted to watch them. I feel that way about bad behaviour from famous people in general…I don’t want to support them if I have seen/heard something truly gross to me from them.) I’ve only seen bits and pieces from earlier Bond movies. I prefer other genres to spy thrillers, but Daniel Craig portrayed James Bond playing a grown up version of “Home Alone” with Judi Dench…it was beautiful…
“What is this? A bloody dating site?”
Oh, if only it were….
Viol.
HG’s comment and yours made me smile.
If it were a dating site, I suspect HG would be a busy man… even busier than he is now.
And that’s despite all his warnings about dating sites… 😂
Hi Dani,
You can’t tolerate bad behavior from famous people, that’s understandable, TOW’s behaviors, on HG’s videos, upset me . I can’t stand her.
Have you seen the HG videos on P Diddy? He’s revolting, in his behaviors. I hope he gets sentenced for life.
I wondered how JLo dated him and didn’t get physically abused. Is it because she’s a narc and got out early from the relationship?
HG, why do some narcs physically abuse some victims and don’t physically abuse other victims?
HG, thanks for your time and replies. Xx
A variety of factors apply with regard to whether a form of physical abuse is used, which includes the type of narcissist, whether there are witnesses, the extent of the threat to control, whether other manipulations have been used and if they have failed to secure control, fuel level of the narcissist and whether there is a sadistic streak.
HG,
Thank you for your reply and your time. Xx
Why do you think JLo wasn’t physically abused by P Diddy? Is it the type of narc she is, her connections?
Thank you for your videos and coverage on P Diddy and his behaviors. Xx
How do you know she was not physically abused?
HG,
I don’t 100% know she wasn’t , but I’m thinking if she was, there would have been a big media storm over it. I honestly don’t see her letting that slide and not saying something. She doesn’t strike me as the type to quietly take it. My opinion. Xx
Hi Rebecca,
My ex best friend is a narcissist and she was extremely provocative and thrived on the physical abuse. She liked knowing that she had the power to push her partners to the point of abusing and attacking her. As sick as that sounds, its true. Some narcs prefer negative fuel. JLo is a narc herself so maybe she prefers negative fuel too.
Oh, thats a good point! JLo is quick to disengage. Something caused Diddy to be painted black.
Maybe she disengaged before his heated fury erupted into abuse.
HG,
Could you make a video of the varying factors that would make a narc not use physical violence on a victim and then a video on why they would be physically violent towards a victim? Maybe share the warning signs of a narc who is about to get physically abusive and what triggers it? Xx
Thank you for your time and replies, HG xx
Hi, Rebecca–
One thing I’ve wondered about JLo and Diddy (or whatever he was calling himself then) is that shooting incident where he got her to port the gun for him. I’ve considered what role her narcissism played in accepting that task, especially given the risks to her own career and standing should she be implicated. Why would she be willing to be found with it? Although she wasn’t charged, she did get caught up in the maelstrom after the fact, and I understand she was really put out about the optics and confronted Diddy about it. But, despite her verbal upset, maybe there was the potential or actuality of physical threat to her from Diddy that influenced her decision to carry a gun for him into a club party?
Also–Diddy paid off lots of people to hide his goings on and exert control. Or cars blew up because, you know, cars blow up. That’s what they do.
It’s all sort of confusing because, although Gene Deal said Diddy treated JLo differently (around him at least) than his other victims, I can still see her keeping quiet about certain things, especially as being physically abused might seem like evidence of weakness to her so she wouldn’t let it get out. Maybe physical abuse did happen, but hiding it was an assertion of control on her part?
There also seem to be many times where in Hollywood-type circles even police don’t respond to abuse as they should (looking at you, OJ) so maybe things don’t become public. And the media machine is a whole other matter in terms of silence, especially before the prominence of social platforms. I just don’t know. Her mother certainly seems to hate Diddy, and I’ve often wondered if it was because some kind of abuse like that was going on behind the scenes. Narc on narc is a weird world.
At any rate, moving forward as an empath on the dating scene, I have to admit that there is such a thing as a disturbing amount of personal lubricant one individual can own.
Rebecca,
I have seen some of the videos about the Diddler… Shudders…that Tudorscope analysis is one of the series that I just can’t watch through…It’s too disgusting and disturbing for me. I think we’re going to see many more famous names come out…
Hi Dani,
Sometimes I have trouble listening too. They Lucy Letby series did that to me. I remember that I tuned out a lot. Diddy is a vile creature. It was incredibly disturbing to me as well. I liked how Contagious summarized it. That was very helpful.
Thank you so much, Contagious. I appreciate that. I like thinking of questions for HG. And I hope he finds them engaging too. I don’t know how good of an interviewer I would be…when I can tell someone isn’t engaging… I go quiet or rapidly change subjects as I seek that feeling of connectedness and mutual interest in the topic.
Dani:
The Sean Combs series is well worth listening to, as unpleasant as the facts are. It helps that HG maintains a matter-of-fact tone rather than the snark he reserves for This One’s Wife. I only caught up with it recently because of the arrest. It was pretty certain he’d turn out to be a narc, but I needed the pattern laid out to understand school and cadre.
I don’t believe HG is much into rap, so he didn’t analyze Combs’ output aside from chart success, but it’s textbook Acquisition of Traits, even by rap standards, where sampling is customary. I posted at length about this on another thread, but basically, Combs had the ability to spot and produce good performers, but wasn’t much of a performer or mix artist himself.
Tupac’s refusal to sign with him and Biggie’s intention of leaving Bad Boy Records would give him motive to put a hit on both of them. If his need for control is so absolute he has to drug and tie up prostitutes who are willing to engage in conventional sexual activities, I doubt he’d hesitate at murder.
Leigh,
True, some narcs like fighting and the negative fuel is stronger for them, makes them feel more powerful…but, I recall JLo and P Diddy not staying together for long. She didn’t stay with Ben for long either. She doesn’t tolerate much, when things don’t go her way. She shows, to me, that she leaves quickly and doesn’t stay long during devaluation/ negative fuel time.
Dani,
I think we are going to be surprised who all is involved with P Diddy and his crimes and awful behaviors. The media covetage is going to get worse, as more horribles acts come out and more victims and shared stories come out. Xx
Hi Rebecca–
I agree. I expect many big names…and there are a few that I really hope finally get nabbed for all the dirty things they know and have been connected with. I’m tired of all the double standards.
Leigh,
I don’t think she stuck around long enough for Diddy to get violent with her. She most likely saw him as painted black before he devalued her and abused her. She’s a quick devaluing narc, from what I have seen of her behaviors. She goes through men, in no time flat. My observations of her. Xx
Leigh–
Letby was another one that was difficult to listen to. It was physically sickening to hear about what was done to those helpless babies. I got through it. There was a great deal of superb information, but thinking about all the pain that was caused by her makes me glad that she will never leave prison.
Leigh,
Thanks, I’m glad you like my country’s animal. Xx I’m thinking a Fresian Stallion, flowing mane and tail, standing proud in the middle of the flag, horse outlined in white, with dark red background with a silver shield. Honor in Battle, would be the motto. Xx
Rebecca,
So beautiful! I love Fresians! They’re fancy…
Would everyone know how to “ride at dawn?”
Hi Dani,
Yes, everyone would know how to ride at dawn because , like Israel, my country would have everyone trained for military combat. Everyone learns how to protect themselves and their country. Everyone does their part, everyone is involved. Xx
Hi Rebecca,
I’ve been losing comments left and right. I’ve been super busy at work.
I had to look up Friesian stallion I’m not familiar with the different breeds of horses. The Friesian stallion is stunning and what incredible strength as well! I think that’s a wonderful choice for your national animal. Hardworking, beautiful and strong! I love it!
Hi Rebecca,
I think my reply got lost. WordPress was giving me some error messages.
I had to look up the Friesian stallion. I’m not familiar with horse breeds. It’s quite stunning!
Strong, hardworking & beautiful! What a wonderful representation for your country!
Thanks Leigh,
I’m glad you like the Fresian breed. Xx It’s one of my favorite horse breeds and it’s also an old War horse and a working horse breed. I also like Arabians and Cyldesdales…They’re all so beautiful and intelligent animals. Xx
I’d want to be in the Cabinet of my country, not its only ruler. I’d want different ideas brought to the table, discussed and majority wins. Not one person holds all the cards, and especially not me. I’d worry about making the wrong decision and making things worse, so a group of members would rule. Xx
Leigh,
This is a fun, imaginative exercise to invent your own country and how you’d want it ruled. Xx
I went all fantasy with the dragons guarding the border! 😄 Why not have a little fun with it? Xx
Honestly, who wouldn’t want dragons guarding their country? Maybe I could breed them, train them and give them to allies for free, just for being an ally….Who wants one, maybe two? 😄xx
Hi Rebecca,
Its hard for me to form a mental images in my head. I don’t have much of an imagination because of that.
I agree, its fun. I’m enjoying reading about everyone’s countries. I look forward to visiting them all. 😀
Yes, I’d like two Night Fury please!
Hi Leigh,
I have an overactive imagination, I find myself in my own head a lot, while working.. imagining all kinds of things and images running through my head like a movie reel.
When HG talks, in his videos, I get the visuals along with the story he’s talking about. I can’t imagine not getting images in my head, I’ve been this way my whole life.
When I read a book same thing happens, images play out in my head, how I picture the characters and their surroundings.
Sometimes when I see a movie, after reading the book, I’m disappointed in what the characters look like, or even their surroundings aren’t what I imagined in my head. Xx
When you read, you don’t get images playing through your head? That’s so different from me. Xx
Hi Rebecca,
Yes, I can get images when I’m reading if the information is descriptive enough. Mr. Tudor is very descriptive in his writing and that really helps me. Joa is another one thats very descriptive. I’ll often picture in my mind, things I already know. So if you said to me there are 3 people sitting around a table, I see 3 shadows and I’ll picture my dining room table or the table in my office or some other table thats familiar to me. I can’t make up images in my head.
Picturing people’s faces and bodies is very difficult for me. Sometimes I assign famous people to the bloggers, but not always . Mostly I just picture their avatar in my head when I think about them. Its the same when I’m reading. I’ll picture someone i know. I can’t make up a mental imagr on my own.
Jordyguin,
😆😆 Coming right up! Give me three weeks and I’ll have some hathlings for you! I’ll train them for you too!
What will their names be? You gotta have two, so he has a friend. 😄xx
Rebecca,
You mentioned disappointment in the way book characters physically transfer to screen. I know what you mean, particularly when it seems no direction was taken from book descriptions…
If you watch a movie before reading the book…do you find yourself imagining the character looking like the actor who was cast?
Rebecca…we are allies…please.
I’m pondering both my imagined countries.
I know I would love a dragon. Please.
Hi Leigh,
That’s interesting, what do you imagine I look like, or other bloggers and HG? Xx
Hi Rebecca,
I don’t have a mental image of you. I only see your roses. I would need to know your background to have some sort of mental image. I knew TS was English so I picture Emily Blunt when I think of her. AV is from Minnesota so I see her as fair skinned and a blond but everything else is blurred. With Mr. Tudor, I see him as his legs or Daniel Craig but only because he’s said that he resembles Daniel Craig. Everyone else I see as their avatar.
I forgot to ask. How do you picture me?
Hi ladies, I hope it’s okay if I jump in to your conversation. This topic fascinates me. I would never watch a movie first of the is a book available, unless it’s absolutely something I would never read. And I’m often disappointed with the movie but not always. Sometimes I just think, okay, so this is how someone else saw it in their mind.
I have an adult son who is a pianist, quite accomplished, who has expressed frustration with his lack of creativity as it affects his piano playing. He is currently working on developing it for the piano with some degree of success but it is work for him. I have an adult daughter who recently told me she sees everything in vivid pictures, as I do, but her husband doesn’t see anything like that, she was really surprised. It is funny to me how some have it and some don’t and I wonder if it’s genetic, it must be? What do you think?
Hi AV!
Nice to see you! I
never thought about it being genetic. That would make a lot of sense. I’ll have to ask my mother next time she calls me.
I don’t think I passed it on to my children though. They’re both very creative and artistic. The complete opposite of me!
Hi AV,
You’ve piqued my interest. How does your son in law see things? Is it shadows or blurred images? That’s how I see it.
I was just thinking about this some more and my older brother had a vivid imagination also. He was mentally disabled but his imagination was definitely over active. He would tell these fantastical, tall tales. I always figured he saw it in a movie and was just repeating it. But maybe he did actually imagine it.
Hi Dani,
No worries, you may have as many dragons as you want. Xx 😄
Hi Dani,
If the movie I saw, before reading the book, was from a series of movies, like Lord of the Rings, then I would imagine the character like the movie, until the book describes that character differently than the movie. If the character is described differently from the movie, then I will imagine the changes from the author’s writings.
The odd exception would be James Bond’s books and movies, as he’s been played by a lot of different actors, though funny thing is, Sean Connery is my favorite James Bond actor and then Daniel Craig, a close second. Xx 😄
I think no one did Bond like Connery and I heard he hated doing the role, ironic isn’t it? Xx
Hi Dani,
I’m sorry I forgot to complete my answer and thought…Yes, I usually imagine the actor, who was cast in the movie, first. If the book changes what he or she looks like, then I will picture the changes.
I like the book versions more, usually because you get more character development in a book, more into the character’s mindset, personality, feelings, outlook, a more rounded view of the character.
For example, I bought the Terminator books, for both the first and second movies. I thought it would give more of a glimpse inside the mind of the Terminator and more depth of the story. It had more background story, the book did and more explaination about the Terminator, which was what I was looking for. My truthseeker trait digging for more answers. Xx
I did the same with HG’s books I read and HG’s Knowing HG Series, I read more about HG to get inside his mind, to see his mindset, his outlook, his feelings and thoughts, to know HG more. I find HG as fascinating, if not more fascinating as the Terminator..I see a lot of comparisons between the two. I hope HG understands it’s a complimentary statement and thought from me. I admire them both for their determination to get the mission done and that nothing stops the prime directive. Both are awesome at their missions and awe inspiring to me. Cold and logical, and both learned human behavior by observing it and both learned to manipulate people to achieve their goals/ the prime aims. I see a lot in common with them. The Terminator is very narcissistic in its thinking, though I cringe to call the Terminator an “it”, because I feel the Terminator is more than an it. I feel the same about the label of psychopath, I feel it’s demeaning…again, my opinion and feelings about that. Xx
Hi Rebecca,
I’m high in truthseeker also but for some reason, sometimes I don’t need or want a deeper understanding of specific people. I think it might be a way for me to stay detached. I do want a broader understanding of life in general though and Mr. Tudor has given me that.
With Mr. Tudor, I do want a deeper understanding of him in order to further my education on narcissism and psychopathy. But my cynicism still causes me to keep him at an arm’s length. He’s the teacher, I’m the student. Therefore he’s Mr. Tudor, not HG. I’m nervous if I delve too deep, it may muddy the waters. For now, I need that delineation.
Hi Dani and Leigh,
I’d make WILD HORSES by The Rolling Stones my anthem and it would be played during special events and National holidays. I picked that song because of the title….wild horses, I like the song and the group. I also like the message of love, hope and devotion it represents to me. Xx
Rebecca!
My father ‘s side is from Friesland! Gorgeous creatures!
Leigh,
I’m from America, Southern State, but my Dad was in the Navy, so I don’t have a strong southern drawal, as I moved a lot growing up.
My family is mostly English and Scottish, with a little Irish, Swedish and Norweigen thrown in. I’m not a beach girl, prefer the mountains and lakes. I don’t tan, I burn. I’m short and small. Xx
I picture you, 5’6″ and blond. I don’t know why. Xx
I picture Joa with dark chestnut hair and same with AV, a certain warmth with amber colors. It’s how I see their personalities through their words, impressions of who they are, in my opinion and it’s how I see them. Xx
Hi Rebecca,
So since your heritage is from Northern Europe, I’m going with light eyes and fair skin. Scottish and Irish is making me think of the girl from Brave. Lots of curls and red or blond hair.
I’m from Ameica as well. I’m Hispanic. My father was from South America. Ohhhhh how I wish I was tall! Thank you for that. It made me laugh and smile! I’m under 5 foot, lol. With lots of curls and brown hair. Well, it used to be brown, now there’s more gray then I care to admit. Lol!
I just see Joa as her avatar. Even knowing she’s Polish, I can’t get a picture of her in my head.
Hello, Rebecca–
“That’s interesting, what do you imagine I look like, or other bloggers and HG? Xx”
I imagine you look like a cup of something warm, delicious, and wholesome on a cold night.
Hi AV–
I can understand finding the movies disappointing when compared to the books. There are some things that just can’t be done in film but can be done in books.
AV: ” I have an adult daughter who recently told me she sees everything in vivid pictures, as I do, but her husband doesn’t see anything like that, she was really surprised. It is funny to me how some have it and some don’t and I wonder if it’s genetic, it must be? What do you think?”
I like how you talked about pictures in your head. For you, is that a response to music as well as books? Is yes, when listening to music, do you find yourself more focused on the pictures in your head or more on dancing or the rest of your environment?
I think it’s likely genetic in some way.
Hi Allison,
Thank you, I sound like hot cocoa 😆xx
It would be a short cup 😆xx
Leigh–
“With Mr. Tudor, I do want a deeper understanding of him in order to further my education on narcissism and psychopathy. But my cynicism still causes me to keep him at an arm’s length. He’s the teacher, I’m the student. Therefore he’s Mr. Tudor, not HG. I’m nervous if I delve too deep, it may muddy the waters. For now, I need that delineation.”
How I’m interpreting what you’ve said is that you’re concerned of developing too much of an attachment to Mr. Tudor.
If you don’t mind answering, in terms of muddying the waters…what emotions concern you most in your quest to learn and understand more about Mr. Tudor?
Mr. Tudor is capable of causing all manner of emotions in the minds of his loyal readers/listeners. Morbid curiosity, compassion, revulsion…Mr. Tudor has said that some people deprive themselves of the understanding they can find only through his work owing to their inability to come to terms with what he is, what he has chosen to share, and what he has hinted at, etc.
If you were to make a guess, which emotion would prove the greatest hindrance to your understanding and learning from Mr. Tudor…an excess of compassion, an excess of revulsion for his actions against others, or something else?
Dani
Hi Dani & Rebecca,
You hit the nail on the head, Dani! Yes, I want to remain detached from Mr. Tudor.
I’ve read many of Mr. Tudor’s books, own many of his logic bulletins and read countless articles and watched countless videos. I think I have a fair understanding of Mr. Tudor. I think, lol.
Sometimes I feel compassion for him. Sometimes even irritation. Never revulsion though.
What I’m nervous about is my addiction to narcissists. Mr. Tudor is the ultimate narcissist. What will that do to my addiction? I’m nervous that digging too deep will trigger my empathic traits, raise my emotional thinking and cause me to not see things clearly. I need to see clearly so I don’t want to risk it. I take baby steps in order to keep myself safe.
Hi Leigh,
.i can understand why you want to stay at a distance with HG, you’re not alone in that feeling.
I’m more curious and less cautious partially, I think, to do with the fact I grew up with a psychopath brother and a narc mother.
I’m interested in learning more behaviors, so I can spot them sooner and HG is the one who knows the most about both narc and psychopath.
I’m currently dealing with a narc boss and married to a narc, as you know already. Xx
HG is the best person for advice and questions, and the fact he’s narcissistic psychopath doesn’t bother me, who better to ask, than a self aware and intelligent narc psychopath about narcs and psychopaths? He knows, he is one. It stills makes me cringe to call HG a psychopath, I find the word demeaning, though I don’t mean it that way….xx
Leigh,
Isn’t it funny how we get a picture of someone we talk to, but haven’t seen….My picture of you was all wrong. 😊 You’re short, like me. Did you have an impression before I told you about my family? Xx
I’m only 5’1″ and my hair is wavy and dark strawberry blonde and blue eyes, not pale, stormy grey is a closer color. My Dad had the same color eyes. Xx
What is this? A bloody dating site?
Hi Leigh and Dani,
@ Leigh, my son in law sees nothing, from my daughter said. When I told my son about our discussion, because he and I had recently discussed it, he said it’s likely because my son in law doesn’t think about anything before he speaks. And it’s really true, my daughter has told me this before about her husband. He shoots it right out without filters. He loves very much in the moment right now. I don’t know if that plays a part in picturing things in one’s mind’s eye, or not, but no one else in our family does this.
@ Dani,
“I like how you talked about pictures in your head. For you, is that a response to music as well as books? Is yes, when listening to music, do you find yourself more focused on the pictures in your head or more on dancing or the rest of your environment?”
Music that has unintelligible words frustrates me, if I can’t understand the words or at least follow the concept, I will turn it off. Also, some music that has a certain sound that I conflict with, for example emo music that is depressing when I am happy to be alive, so not a moral conflict but rather an emotional one, also gets turned off. As does music without meaningful words. It can be a simple message but it must have meaning, like “…just another brick in the wall…”, simple but effective.
If music has words and I can follow them and I like them, it is like pictures on steroids, pumped up by the music itself, the beat, the emotion etc. I feel music very deeply, good or bad, the pictures in my mind are only a small part of that, but if that part is missing, I will not care about the music.
Which leads to music with no words, unlike a song that has just had the words removed if I know them, I can only tolerate for a short time before it grates on my nerves and it has to go off. You can imagine how years ago in many workplaces, including mine, the Musak caused me to live on edge for hours every day. The exception here is my kids playing the piano, because we can talk about it.
One funny thing though, I enjoy opera music and typically can’t understand the words. But I usually read what the opera is about, then I can just enjoy the emotion as I envision the story moving along. It is the same for some classical music, though my tolerance is lower in this case.
One other odd thing is that with most sounds I am able to tune out very effectively. Music is not like this, or at least not always. I wish it was.
I hope that is not too involved of an answer.
Oh, that’s interesting AV! In the past, sometimes shit would just fly right out of my mouth too! There were often times I didn’t think before I spoke. As I’ve gotten older, I’ve learned to stop, think and then respond instead of having a knee jerk reaction. Maybe there is some connection because I can’t see it in my mind’s eye.
I don’t form mental images to music either. But I definitely can form connections to music. Its about how the lyrics and music makes me feel. I agree, the lyrics have to make sense otherwise it annoys me. I don’t like music on in the background either when I’m trying to concentrate and work. I find it distracting. But I love it on when I’m cleaning or doing laundry. It makes the task go quicker.
Hi Dani: I don’t know what you look like but I have to thank you for your contribution to the blog. Your questions!!!! I always told my children each day before school and to all the small children in my life: ask a good question. You should be an anchor, an interviewer! I am positive everyone feels the same here even HG! Thanks!
I loved reading your reply, AV. Thank you. I found it very interesting.
Hi Rebecca & AV,
Do your mental images have dimension? Mine do not. In my mind’s eye, I see everything flat.
Hi Leigh–
1. What has made you feel irritated with Mr. Tudor?
There are levels of proximity:
Written materials/videos — Levels of closeness vary based on content to an extent.
Commenting — Mr. Tudor reads everything, so that is a step up.
Audio consultations are a step up from commenting
Then there are a few times when we have known where he’ll be–such as Depeche Mode concerts or when he is in New York City…
Attending the concert, knowing that Mr. Tudor is there, is another level (regardless of the likelihood that no physical contact will occur…it could…accidentally or otherwise)
2. Were HG to give in person talks about narcissism and psychopathy, would you want to go?
There’s a guarantee of learning. There’s a guarantee of a level of intimacy not otherwise experienced. Seeing HG and physically occupying the same space…but is that more intimate than a private conversation in an audio consultation?
Hi Dani,
LOL! You don’t pull any punches, do you? I definitely see your truthseeker! I love it though!
I’m going to answer number 2 first. I would absolutely love to go to in person event hosted by Mr. Tudor. Providing there were others in attendance. Then I could blend in. I also would lie about who I was too. Then this way I can’t be seen and he wouldn’t know it was “Leigh”. I’d probably give my real name, lol!
I’ve never done an audio consult. I’m too scared. I’ve only done the empath, trait & narc detector consults. Those were all over email.
What has irritated me about Mr. Tudor? The Three that Got Away & I Smell Victim. Those two had a visceral affect on me. It irritated me that he was so cold about it. But I also know that he needed to convey coldness in order to drive home the point. So the irritation doesn’t last long. Its just a smidge.
Hi Leigh,
My mental images are 3 dimensional, that look like a movie playing in my head, but it’s a eye level view of what’s going on, like I’m there watching them in front of me. That’s the best I can describe it…I hope that helps. I wonder why I see mental pictures differently than you? Xx
Mr. Tudor,
I want to thank you for allowing me to discuss my lack of imagination on the blog. I didn’t even realize I saw things differently until another blogger had mentioned it. Its amazing to me how much I’ve learned on this blog and not just about narcissism. So thank you again for giving me a little leeway to discuss this.
Rebecca,
I’ve been doing some research and its similar to aphantasia.
Aphantasia means your blind in your mind’s eye. My mind’s eye isn’t blind. Images are just very vague. I never even realized that I was different until another blogger mentioned it. I think it was Alexis who spoke about it some time ago. I just assumed I had a lack of imagination but after some research, I realized it was more than that. Their are levels and I think I fall in the category of hypophantasia.
This blog really is a wonderful place. I’m very thankful for all the things I’ve learned here.
Hi Leigh and Dani:
I have been following the Diddy case. I read the indictment and watched the Texas civil lawyers and their evidence and watched many videos.
First: Sean Combs father was a drug dealer shot down in Harlem when he was 3, the family of two ( he has a sister who works for him and married a sound engineer) moved to Mount Vernon where his mom worked three jobs and one allegedly was as a prostitute. I have seen videos of mom at his parties. He went to Howard, dropped out after two years and worked at Uptown records before Bad Boys. Lack of control environment.
2. Diddy has a history of domestic violence. Some say they saw him slap his mother, Cassie lawsuit shows a history and we all saw the brutal hotel attack. Another IPSS sued him for DV. Kim porter was a victim. And we all know that DV isn’t a one off.
3. The Feds have him from evidence that they found in his Miami, NY and LA homes: on 3 illegal firearms (serial numbers sawed off), illegal drugs and well 1000 bottles of baby oil .Stop there. He is done. But the trafficking involves bringing sex workers across state lines to his parties. No videotapes that I have found have been mentioned by the Feds in their possession so far but as TMZ and others report, P Diddy recorded his parties. Just a matter of time.
3. It is believed he recorded his parties to blackmail execs to advance his career and others, for protection and for self enjoyment. $?
4. There were 3 tiers at his parties. Just because you went, doesn’t mean you are a criminal or engaged in criminal behavior and there is no law requiring you to report a crime. I saw a video of Denzel Washington leaving a party and shouting to Diddy “ you don’t respect no one!” Wonder what he saw.
4. Guests were encouraged and models even paid to come to the party. The lawsuits say minors went. Here is the problem: as you got into the tiers alcohol was served with drugs: ketamine ( a horse tranquilizer), coccaine and mmda ( Molly). Some drank not knowing which lead to sexual assaults. Many stories of this and the kidnapping was that many then were told to stay or made to stay and given IVs before leaving. The lawsuit HG refers is one woman fled a party screaming and a neighbor took her in and she filed a police report NOT naming Diddy. Now after Cassie and much like the #metoo time, she feels safe to file a civil action. The other is a Texas lawyer who said he vetted 3000 calls and has signed up 120 accusers. I think one is only 9.
5. Many say that Diddy used his power and money to use others such as promising careers ( meek Mike, disturbing video) in exchange for sex. Others say he groomed young men and exposed them to his third tier orgies while minors maybe even victimizing them ( usher at 14 and Justin Bieber at 15). There is a video where Diddy says Bieber” knows better” than to talk about his freak off or white parties.
6. Wendy Williams says she was the first to talk about him being gay and lost her job because of it. While being gay is not a problem, if he was it leads credence to the alleged male victims who are making claims against him. It seems likely he was bi.
7. Jay Z, Will Smith other celebs, those closest to him KNEW. Did they engage? Jaguar says so in her Piers interview that Jay Z and Beyonce got lawyers to take down. “ Nasty couple that did nasty things” As for Oprah: why is she linked to Harvey, Epstein, not to mention her school where allegations of sex trafficking were raised. Now Diddy. ??? Many celebs quietly pay off accusers. Diddy had settlements ranging from the 9 killed in an event he oversold when young, a record exec he beat up and others along the way.
8. Diddy shot up a club in NYC with JLo in tow, it’s widely believed he had an acquaintance who Diddy paid to take the fall. This man, Shine?, was sentenced to 10 years, he did 8. Funny how quiet he and JLo and others are. No one is defending Diddy, their former buddy, as “innocent of the accusations….”
9. The coroner said Kim porter died at 54? Of pneumonia. Hmmm
10. Diddy was in Bad Biy records when the East coast West coast war was happening which lead to media attention and higher record sales for all. Tupac died. Many believe “ puffy” was involved in the hit. Never proven but Cassie said he made death threats against her male friend and was going to also engage in arson against him. Violence seems a likely tool of Narc Diddy. Diddy is also caught by the Feds tampering with witnesses which is why in part his 50 million dollar bond was denied. ( money that was to be funded by the sale of his property and his mothers)
What bothers me is where are the other accomplices, co conspirators etc… trafficking involves more than one. ??? Someone spiked large amounts of alcohol not just Diddy, others took advantage of innocently drugged people even minors. Only Weinstein is in jail. Only Epstein was locked up before he was silenced. Will Diddy be the same? Will he die in jail? What is the message the criminal justice system sends when they only arrest ONE. It’s TIME. It’s time for our government to crack down on trafficking, especially child trafficking. I fully expect the Feds to arrest more IF we want change. 30,000 children from Mexico disappear each year. Whitney Webb- look into her, is an investigative journalist on Epstein who moved her family to South America out of safety ( would love to see HG interview her!) She linked many powerful people to Epstein and said the sex trafficking was the least of his crimes and a subterfuge. Wealthy celebs and others went to him to make financial investments ( and he gave them windfalls allegedly arising from trafficking, drugs and arms sales. Perhaps they didn’t know but suspected.
But… blackmail to get ahead, murder, rape, violence, trafficking, illegal drugs, illegal arms, DV… how high up does this criminal enterprise go? Why aren’t we seeing multiple arrests in these high profile cases.
Will we?
Or will Diddy die in jail like Epstein. Civil suits settled. Life goes on?
I hope not.
Hi Contagious,
Thank you for this summary. You summarized it very nicely. I like that. I have a question though. Why now is there a spotlight on him? This has been going on for over 25 years, probably even 30 years. There were so many people involved who covered for him. Did he cross somebody more powerful then him? Did he piss someone off? Was there a whistle blower? Do you know what sparked this investigation of Diddy?
Also Kim Porter did an interview in Essence magazine I read where Diddy who she dated from 1994 and raised 3 kids together, said Diddy would call her up to 50 times a day. Her life was not her own.” Ummm Narc and boundaries?
@Leigh, I see things in my mind like I see them with my eyes, colors, dimensions, textures etc. Dreams also, very lifelike.
@Rebecca, I am 5’4″, blonde, green eyed, half Norwegian, half what my mother calls a duke’s mixture.
Hi AV & Rebecca,
For years I didn’t even know I was different. I remember reading about it here on the blog. I think it was Alexis who brought it up. When they were talking about it, I thought, oh my gosh, that’s me. Blindness in the mind’s eye is called aphantasia. I don’t have that because I’m not completely blind in my mind’s eye. When I close my eyes, I do see blackness but I can form a picture in my mind. I think what I have is hypophantasia. Even things I know very well are flat & dull when I close my eyes.
Its so bizarre how these things happen.
AV,
Thanks for the mental picture, the green of your sails can represent your eyes. 🙃xx
Have you checked out HG’s new channel? The intro is amazingly dark and I loved it! Perfect for HAlloween season! 😄xx
HI Contagious!
I agree. I want the whole stinking lot to go down. I hope there will be more criminal investigations.
I agree that not all attendees would be aware of the depths of the depravity that has allegedly occurred. But I bet there are plenty of wealthy famous folks who did and participated willingly.
Who stuck her tongue in Weinstein’s ear? Who said that children experience pleasure when adults play with their genitals…yes there is a video of a very famous person saying this…Who has praised Diddy? Who all have been deleting thousands of X posts? I believe that far more famous people knew and were complicit in the business. Now, their money will be talkin’. They’re busy paying people off.
I feel like this is a case where anonymously settling out of court should not be allowed. I would like to know why now as well…
Leigh and AV,
I didn’t know there was a condition for seeing things flat in your mind’s eye. That’s interesting. Xx
I would comment on this Dani, but, it’s classified.
Xx
Truthseeker–
I have top secret clearance… Tell me everything.
Especially….*Whispering*
Dani,
*Whispers* Taller than you imagined. Broader than you imagined. And, exceptionally well e……
Oh sorry, my mistake, that’s as far as your top secret clearance gets you!
Xx
TS—
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Dani,
Nailed it. Haha!
Xx
“I would comment on this Dani, but, it’s classified.”
Pahaha! Good return 😉
Hi Z,
Lovely to see your name again. I hope you are keeping well and fitting in some rest around your KTN research! Xx
A-a-a-a!! Those files are declassified! Who ever commented on this thread gotta present their homework by the end of the next full moon!😘(Please use HG’s questionnaire as a guiding structure! It’s really fun!)
Hi HG:
I like your new channel. Focused on the main topic!
I have a confession. Despite how many ch education you provide me, I still confuse psychopaths and narcissists. Take Diddy. There is a psychiatrist on Nancy Grace very educated, she calls Diddy a psychopath not a narcissist. Whenever someone is a serial killer or engages in murder my mind goes to psychopath. Both psychopaths and narcissists don’t have empathy. They don’t feel remorse. So it confuses me. One is goal oriented, the other fuel. So I always think… how are you going to get fuel from a corpse. I imagine ignited fury is the cause for narcs … 1. am I right?
2. So many Lucy letby, p diddy etc… also have sadism as a comorbidity that arises in your analysis. Ted Bundy was a psychopath, a narcissist, a sadist if you look him up and read about what various professionals diagnosis him with for example
2. Is it common for narcs to be sadists?
3. Why?
4. And should you be more afraid of being killed by a psychopath or a narcissist? I think many would like the answer to that one.
5. And they say that you are more likely to be killed by someone you know than a stranger… is that because of narcs? Because of the fuel dynamic?
6. Finally how common is the narcissist/ psychopath diagnosis of both? Some say cluster B should just be one and that they switch. 7. True?
Dani, I would be the last to be a military dictator, I’m all about live and let live! I think mine would be more of a utopia where all were free to live as they saw fit within the reasonable laws of the land, no murder, theft, damage of another’s property, abuse etc.
I think I would like that. This is not something I’ve really considered before.
AV,
You said no military…what would happen if you were invaded?
Call Gasser for help? (Duchess of Narsussex Land from Episode 3 of the series)
Well, in my Utopia, that would never happen… how’s that for a head in the sand empath reply? 🤣😂😆
AV,
You can always borrow three of my dragons! That will solve the invaders problem and we could be allies. 😄xx
AV,
Brilliant. Writing the world your way. Taking control of your destiny…
@Rebecca and Dani,
Thank you for the offer Rebecca, that’s very kind! Since I will have no need of dragons, because I will not be attacked, we can be allies anyway, you can ride them over to visit! 🙂
Thank you Dani! That is what my real world is now also, I appreciate the positivity!
AV and Dani,
Sure I’ll visit and we can have smoked salmon sandwiches and free dragon riding lessons! 😄xx
Hi Dani,
Mine would be the last to be a military dictatorship! I am all about live and let live. My “rule” would be light-handed with each expected to take personal responsibility for their own actions. There would be laws but they would be simple and with consequences straightforward. They would only be in place to let those who would live well have the unfettered ability to do so. I picture it as sort of utopia. So no military, no dictatorship, just sweet happiness for all. Haha, is this too much to ask for?
@contagious
I’d love to answer but I’m not aware of that many public figures to know who would be qualified for minster of defence etc
I’d either be looking at a psychopath or a super empath with zero codependency & very little saviour.
I’m panicking already!
lol Witch : I had a cabinet of superheroes. T’challa, Wonder Woman and Aquaman with this utopian idea of world survival and people having to come close to the ideals of superheroes for cabinet positions. So silly …but hey… I have not met a politician anywhere that I believe in… in my lifetime. I am amazed at people so political. Maybe I am too busy …but If there lips are moving….they are lying is my personal belief.
@Contagious
I’ve watched the boys so I don’t trust super hero’s either 😆
If we are talking fiction then Prince Nuada can be my minister of defence and also my side piece but the down side is that he’ll only work for me if the humans are subjugated by the magical creatures, do I betray my own kind?
Hi Witch! I watched the boys too! You are right! Prince Nara excellent choice! Lol
I would rule with soap.
‘By the way HG I would love to hear yours.
Question me:
How would you rule the world. It would be a fascinating take…’
If you wanted answers from the veneers of the construct, Contagious, HG could no doubt provide them. But I think that is all you could get, because even if he knew answers that were deeper or more authentic, he couldn’t share them since that would result in giving up control. Even if he said his answers were his real opinion, it’d be unreliable.
AA, you mean facade, not veneer… Veneer is: one on one in private (relevant appliances). Facade is towards more than one, a group etc. Which still doesn’t ultimately exclude honesty and authenticity. There are some answers here and there for instance in Doug Interviews where HG touches upon how he would rule. I found them in a chord with authenticity and honesty.
“…even if he knew answers that were deeper or more authentic, he couldn’t share them since that would result in giving up control.”
Deep and authentic answers are provided all the time… the Psychopath Series… Educating HG Series… and he still has control, so…
Thankyou Jordy, I may have them mixed up.
I have some questions for you but I’ll explain how I understand the facade (and a veneer) first so you know where I am coming from. It’s a bit off the topic of world rules.
HG, as a narcissist, has an original self and a construct. During the formation of his narcissism, his original self receded into the ‘Creature’ which is now deep within the construct and well encased and all narcissists have this basic formation.
However some narcissists additionally have a facade which is either a layer of their construct or a layer over their construct, which masks their narcissism. Instead of seeming narcissistic, they give the impression of empathy, kindness, depth of thought, nuance, integrity. Their narcissism can be harder to identify. Were we to meet HG in his life, we would not easily know he was a narcissist, if we could know it at all.
Trump and Kanye West don’t operate facades and their narcissistic traits are much more obvious. But as upper lessers I think both of them would use veneers. Trump puts on different veneers when he’s being interviewed one on one, or at a rally. With Melania I expect he uses a veneer although I’m sure she’s seen underneath it at times. It’s very hard to get through life, let alone gain power, without the use of veneers.
So I think of a veneer as a very superficial layer we all put on to influence our circumstances to benefit us. I think it’s partly instinctive, partly learned and partly reliant on skill and aptitude. Some are more easily able to use veneers.
I think HG uses veneers in addition to his facade. These are layers he adopts to better enable him to benefit in a situation or with people. When he speaks with Trevor his veneer is slightly different than when he speaks with Jenn. It’s a form of social adaptiveness although as a narcissist satisfying the prime aims is always an additional goal.
You may see what I’m calling a veneer as a layer of the facade or even as the facade, which is changeable. That’s okay and my question will still work if that’s the case.
So unlike us, HG has an original self/creature and he has a construct. He also has a facade. Like us, he uses veneers (or, unlike us, top facade layers, or changing facades).
HG produces videos about MM.
Which part of him (creature, construct, facade, veneer/surface layer) do you think works on those MM videos?
Which part of him is connects with other content creators of MM videos?
Which part of him reads articles and sources to find material for the videos?
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AA, I love this topic.
Let’s distinguish. Original self is a born psychopath (a specific wiring of perception). What receded into The Creature and became The Creature is a bundle of states which were created by the hands of Matrinarc and Co. The withholding of the honest (felt!) affection, support, protection and fairness created a print (narcissism, fuel necessity) on top of the specific wiring of the original (psychopath) self. The necessity to obtain fuel and prime aims through a controlled environment by the three assertions of control.
Veneer and Facade.
As empaths we can use a mask to an extent with all the people we are not closely familiar with but with our best friends and close family we are completely ourselves and open and we don’t have a mask for them in normal circumstances. There is an almost telepathic understanding because we’re so familiar.
N. or n/p uses the speciality veneer in one-on-one situations with primary appliances for the purpose of adapting to the appliance’s design (inner world) and assert control over HOW the construct is fueled by the primary appliance in the moment and for the future use. Veneer is “what I and you have and nobody else has” a uniqueness (based on the inner world of the appliance). Veneer can drop by itself or through controlled dropping when fury arises, where aware n/p, or in the devaluation phase.
Facade requires consistency of behavior for more than one person and a level of control over the consistency at the same time acquiring fuel and prime aims.
The MM content is presented for a group through the facade yet with honest addition from the true self (psychopath) which explains that MM is neither hot or cold, she’s just a tool for education/ prime aims. The psychopath creates content (legacy) and the construct makes it presentable, charming, engaging, interesting. The Psychopath Series, Asylum, Educating HG etc. open up the space of the honest psychopath’s perception.
Hi Jordy.
Hopefully I’ve understood as you intended.
For my question ‘Which part of him (creature, construct, facade, veneer/surface layer) do you think works on those MM videos?’ I believe you see an element of his original self, the psychopathy, as generating ideas and forming goals in a detached, objective manner. His narcissist construct adds to those goals with the prime aims. Then the facade adds extra to that content to make it more effective, appealing and engaging.
For my question ‘Which part of him connects with other content creators of MM videos?’ I think you believe it’s the facade, since his deeper levels have no ‘hot or cold’ feelings towards her and she’s simply a tool.
With my question ‘Which part of him reads articles and sources to find material for the videos?’ I was thinking of the prep work that would come prior to making videos, publishing them and getting a response. I assume he’d need no facade when he does that because he’d be alone. I think you’d suggest that the original psychopathic self and the construct would be active in this task, because its goal orientated. While a psychopath has a low tolerance for boredom, they will work towards goals and HG has the executive control to persevere despite boredom. And the narcissist construct would preempt the fuel, control and RB that could come from the content, should it affect others.
Have I misinterpreted or missed something?
AA, you understood all correctly, as I intended.
“‘Which part of him reads articles and sources to find material for the videos?’ I was thinking of the prep work that would come prior to making videos”
I believe HG has minions for this part, including AI tools, there are very good ones who would summarise what you’re exactly looking for and deliver it to you. And simply just a couple of good (best) sources (forums, pages etc.) which provide new material.
And remember HG’s pace is veeeeery fast with everything he does. Either it’s the pace of his walk, reading, producing…
He’s Steve Austin, Jordy…
Originally I’d said I felt HG would find it tricky to give more authentic answers to the IIRTW questions because it’d give away too much. I’ll return to that idea.
I believe the construct is who we interact with on the blog, and includes how he sees himself. When he refers to ‘me’ he’s generally referring to the construct. Eg. ‘someone sent an email to me.’ When he makes videos about what HG likes or hates, he’s talking about the construct. For all intents and purposes, that’s him.
Unaware narcissists would think of their construct as the real them, with nothing else going on below it. But as an aware narcissist who has been delving into the concept since he was at university, and who has experienced treatment and had conversations with professionals about narcissism and his own narcissism, HG knows he has a construct and that there is another, suppressed part of himself that he only sometimes accesses.
I believe what he’s shared on this blog is his constructs’ interpretation of what he experiences – including his narcissism and his psychopathy. It can’t go much deeper than that. Sharing it does not threaten his control. If he thought it would, he wouldn’t share it. He couldn’t. His narcissism wouldn’t let him.
You suggest that the part of his original self that has remained reasonably intact is his psychopathy, and I’d agree. That part of him is detached and apathetic and hard to stimulate (even though it wants stimulation). The construct must pursue the prime aims as these sustain it and keep it functional. HG’s construct is uncommonly smart, has a large vocabulary and a capacity to grasp complex issues, a love of intellectually stimulating art and entertainment and a strong work ethic. His construct, I believe, does not like IKEA stores or Celina Dion’s music. His construct likes Depeche Mode and Chris Hitchens.
He will share his (constructs’) opinions on religion here, but generally doesn’t reveal much about his (constructs’) political leanings. I think he prefers to maintain a facade in this domain to maintain control, obtain fuel and residual benefits. On YouTube I think he projects a facade even more.
I believe if he did an IIRTW the opinions of his construct would be censored by the part of his construct that is focused on the prime aims or by the facade. He’d present a veneer only. Which is fine, and as I said to Contagious if that’s enough, then no problem.
Most interesting.
Annaamel and Jordguin,
I’m sorry to interrupt your conversation about HG’s creature, but I can honestly say I’m happy to be able to say I understand finally what the creature is and how the facade works to keep the creature hidden.It took me a long time to grasp this understanding and take it in. Now I see it clearly and get it. It doesn’t change my gratitude and appreciate for HG’s work, nor my admiration for HG. Xx
HG,
by “most interesting” surely you do not mean that this is news to you!?
It is most interesting indeed…!
AA, you mean Veneer as an outer shell of it all, correct? A shell which is crafted by the construct+psychopathy and presenting a facade/veneer for the achievement of the prime aims.
The shell covers up the Emptiness. Honest answers would be honest from the construct’ perspective, yes. In accordance with the prime aims, yes. And if you understand the construct+psychopathy and their both prime aims of which the main necessity is control and achievement of power (which is all he knows ! which is all that gives meaning or makes sense to live for) — then you can kind of foreshadow what the honest answers would be in relation to that construct’ core.
To make a legacy last, you’d need a certain setting of the world to make it last… Depends of course on what your end goal is. Perhaps to understand the end goal you must grasp this:
a) Inside HG is a vast emptiness… b) HG doesn’t know where he begins and where he ends.
AA, what do you think is Emptiness ?
Do you have access to feeling it ? What does the Emptiness want ?
Can there even be Emptiness ? (If we can talk about it?)
Do you think the Emptiness looks through the eyes of HG or HG looks at the Emptiness ?
How much of a Mirror is he ?
I enjoy considering “The Ultra” as a construct. I remember first encountering the YouTube material on narcissism, and I felt like I’d slammed right into a massive steel door, three feet thick. I actually felt awe. Something was stirring in the room, beckoning, but no one was allowed access. Something powerfully alive behind this will, this strength. I still experience him that way. What we construct can be the truest thing about us.
I’ve never been more fascinated by a single individual. I’ve never been more understood by someone I can never know. In a way it’s a perfect love: he’s ever present, all-knowing, perfectly presented, and impeccable. He’s clean in a preternatural way. He never disappoints. He’s always on time. He won’t hurt me. He’s never on my couch and he wouldn’t be. He’s my masculine ideal. He’s always there and never here. I don’t know him at all yet I feel he belongs to me. It’s a perfect love because it can never be. He’s so a part of me now that physical intimacy would be superfluous, not that he’d ever cross that line. Not that I wouldn’t wish it.
The construct makes me reel to consider what’s within. It’s extraordinary.
I spent some time with Psychopath: The Gauge the other night.
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Annaamel, I’m really enjoying this conversation. Your thoughts are fascinating.
Hi Jordy,
By veneer I mean an outer shell, yes. I see a veneer as thin and superficial, which can be and is popped on and off.
Under this is the construct, the self that is created but which feels like a true self. (I might add here that I originally felt that there were two HGs, a construct version and a more authentic version, but now I probably think of it all as a complex construct.)
I see a narcissists’ construct as having an inbuilt belief system, which helps it dominate and subjugate the original self. That belief system includes the notion that there is an emptiness inside, which must not be accessed and, instead, what’s around must inform character development. So the construct takes bits and pieces from the surrounding environment and attaches them and develops and evolves in that way.
I’m honestly fine with the construct of HG, and don’t ask or expect more of him. When I’ve seen glimpses of what, to me, seems more authentic, I still see that as the construct. I still see it as having or using a facade. I believe he authentically does not like James Corden. I believe he authentically likes Peter Kaye. I believe he authentically likes reading and read John Niven’s Kill Your Friends. I believe he authentically sees the two major parties in the US as operating from right of centre. I believe he authentically dislikes inconsiderateness and inauthenticity in others.
I don’t think there actually is emptiness below the construct. The constructs’ view is there is an emptiness. But it’s possible the emptiness is an illusion created by the narcissism which the narcissist will feel an ongoing pressure to outrun.
Hi Annaameel!
HG decided not to;)
That was super fun! Looking forward to the next one, sir. And I’d love to hear your answers to those questions!
How would you punish MMR-B in Tudor-topia?
How would all empaths pay homage to the Ultra?
(Skips behind HG, holding a boom-box playing the Imperial March)
I am looking forward to this.
You’re looking forward to paying homage to HG, too, AV?
*passes boom box over*
Hmm, how to best respond… okay, yes, I would love to pay homage to HG.
I did think my comment was going on independently as a statement that I’m looking forward to the series though.
Thanks for borrowing me your boom box…:)
No Dani, though I would be happy to pay homage to HG, my comment wasn’t under yours when I wrote it, it was directed at the new series. But, thank you for offering to borrow me the book box! 🙂
This is a second attempt at this comment. Not sure if WP is doing something goofy or if my reply is in moderation. I was getting some odd messages, so tried to fix it. Sorry if this is a repeat.
Hi HG and AV,
So far I really liked Britiannifer (spelling?) and the rules Jenn created for her country.
I’m really enjoying the new series, HG! Thank you for coming up with the idea and sharing it with us! Xx
Hi Rebecca, I have not seen/ heard of Britiannifer and the rules yet. Haven’t had a minute to figure out this new series, hopefully soon.
Nice to see you!
Hi AV,
Nice to see you too! Xx
Hi Rebecca,
I have not had time to find and read about Britiannifer, hopefully this weekend.
Hi AV,
You’ll enjoy it! I loved Jenn’s conversation with HG, she was so entertaining and so was HG! Xx
Hope you’re well and let me know what you thought of her country? Xx
I feel a little silly, all my comments showed up! They were giving me error messages and “can’t go there” messages etc.
I found it, love it! Thank you for recommending it Rebecca!
Hi Av,
Glad your messages came through and that you found Jenn’s episode from I Ruled the World series! She was a fun person and HG was funny with her. They had great comical chemistry and she shished HG! 😄😄 That was hilarious! Xx
You’re welcome, AV xx
Looking forward to it. It was great fun to have you with us in the chat yesterday during the premier of this video.
I hope that we, those watchers on YouTube and commenters on Narcsite, can be known as a small part of the best Fuel Matrix the Ultra possesses…
Very interested in this.
Hip hip hooray!🎉Huzzah!🎉Oh my Tudor!!! This is going to be something!!!!👏