HG Mauls the Victim Narcissist

 

 

The Victim Narcissist.

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HG Tudor as The Ultra has no allegiance to other narcissists and for you this is a good thing.

You are about to be educated and entertained as HG Tudor takes each cadre of narcissist and gives them a compact mauling for their failings and their collective disgrace to the narcissist brethren! This bulletin provides you with a mass of information about Victim Narcissists, so you can understand more about this particular cadre, its similarities and differences within the cadre itself.

HG has summoned the various groups of narcissists before him as he delivers this compact mauling about their shortcomings which result in his visceral disgust for them. This mauling will enable you to understand far more about the characteristics of the relevant cadre of narcissist which includes the following

1. Appearance

2. Overall approach to impact on the control of others

3. The nature of dynamics with romantic partners, friends, family and colleagues.

4. Differing styles of preference and how this manifests

5. The weaknesses of these narcissists

6. The self-perception adopted by these narcissists

7. How they approach manipulations

and more.

This collection will enable you to understand far more about what each cadre looks like and how they behave which adds to your armoury of knowledge. Even better, it is delivered in the form of a mauling from HG Tudor so you can gain a vicarious pleasure from his verbal volleys without any risk to you. This is entertaining education and will allow you to understand far more about this cadre of narcissist, across the various sub schools and increasing your awareness and defences.

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14 thoughts on “HG Mauls the Victim Narcissist

  1. Dani says:

    Mr. Tudor,

    You’ve said all narcs have a bit of the victim to them. TOW has a lot of victim to her but she’s a somatic cadre. “I’m a victim of x, y, and z.” As I observe, her victimhood is present but it’s not evolutionary. She does not copy and paste every victim status to herself.

    1. Is it those with more victim cadre who will keep adding on or refining those victim traits even to the point of varying traits being nonsensical or contradictory? They are a super smart genius who skipped a grade…but college/University was so hard the accommodations office wrote special plans for them to succeed, and they spent twice as long as average to attain an undergrad degree. Or being polyamorous with three sexual partners whilst claiming to be asexual. If a narcissist is trying to help others live in this level of contradictory reality and has meltdowns or “you’re a bigot. You hate x.” hissy fits when asked to explain or called on contradictions or goes to crying/complaining to others…

    2. Why seemingly add random additional victim statuses that contradict previous traits?
    3. Is this just the unaware narc in motley dancing for the courts attention? (Probably shouting that their tap shoes are red hot iron slippers.)
    4. Have you ever pivoted like that with something that is a major trait? If so, it would be fascinating to learn how you handled such an about face…if it impacted a major section of your fuel matrix.
    5. Would non narcissists with other conditions routinely update a victim status to such contradictory extremes or explain how awful their newly understood victim status is?

    Thank you so much for your time. I greatly appreciate it.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      1. Any narcissist will exhibit contradictory positions, it is an inherent part of the compartmentalisation.
      2. To pursue the Prime Aims.
      3. I do not understand the question.
      4. Have I pivoted like what?
      5. You can have an individual exhibit attention seeking and a victim mentality and not be a narcissist.

      1. Dani says:

        Thank you so much for answering. I really appreciate it.

        1. Are repeated contradictory positions + victim mentality/attention seeking a strong indicator of narcissism?
        2. Is there a good way of distinguishing the non narc who talks about victimhood from the victimhood of the narcissist?

        Regarding my poorly worded question 3: I meant more…
        3. Is the adding of “new” victim traits (contradictory or not) more about fuel or control?
        Regarding “Have I pivoted like what?” – 4. Have you convinced others of your need for accomodation of…for example being tardy repeatedly… whilst explaining how important timeliness is to you…you must always be prompt…or insisting they must not be late to meetings with you?

        Thank you for all you do for me, sir. I greatly appreciate every moment of your time.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          1. They are red flags and notable ones at that.
          2. Yes, by considering other aspects of the individuals behaviour and submitting them to a Narc Detector.
          3. They will apply to both.
          4. I am never tardy, I am like Gandalf.

          1. 1WhoCares says:

            “4. I am never tardy, I am like Gandalf.”

            Ha! That’s the best.

          2. Dani says:

            Thank you much for your time.

            You’ve said that all narcs have a bit of the victim to them.

            1. How does psychopathy impact the type of victimhood a narcissist utilizes? Jolie and Cruise are both greater narcissist/psychopaths. We don’t see victim-y behavior from them. Swift is also a greater…she does seem to have more of a victim to her to me. It’s not nearly what MRNs like TOW or Heard or Lively exhibit.

            2. Since you brought up Gandalf…do you have a favorite Lord of the Rings character?

            Thank you for everything. Much appreciation!

          3. HG Tudor says:

            1. Psychopathy brings a greater level of emotional detachment which lessens the impact of victimhood.

            2. Queen Berúthiel

          4. Dani says:

            Thank you, Sir. Much appreciation.

            You have shared a story where you fake cried with a therapist. I remember asking about it…and you indicated it was a thought out behavior. (i.e. You had ulterior for this exhibition.)

            1. How have you utilized your victimhood (however rarely) to your advantage?

            Sometimes…when you have talked about aspects of your past, you seem completely detached from any emotional baggage associated…and sometimes there’s an undercurrent of threat in your words that can be quite frightening (even from my position). It’s the tone, the words, and the manipulation within them. Everything you do is a manipulation. From my perspective, there is variation that makes me curious.

            2. Does your emotional detachment shift in regard to how you view negative past experiences? Are there times when memories present as a threat to control or that you must avoid the risk of it becoming a threat to control?

            Thank you so much for all you do. Much appreciation.

          5. HG Tudor says:

            1. To manipulate the good doctors.

            2. Memories are simply that.

          6. Dani says:

            I truly love these rare days of super blog presence, sir. Thank you.

            Regarding “Memories are simply that.”

            Is it all emotional projection on my part, noticing a tone or a change in your behavior between different conversations, people, days or is my asking the problem, a threat to control in the present?

            You can keep me more tied up than the Gordian knot…That statement is a major part of you that is beyond extraordinary to me. It does not fully compute in ways…it doesn’t match my observations… But I know my observations may be faulty at times…

          7. HG Tudor says:

            It is often the case that there is projection and wish fulfilment by people with regard to their perception of the way I interact.

          8. Dani says:

            Mr. Tudor,

            I think you are telling the whole truth when you are being interviewed.

            If the past is the past…if “memories are simply that.”

            1. Why are there situations where you seek revenge? Why do you sound as you did when you spoke of targeting the child abusers? Why target that specific group and caveat it with “given my childhood?”

            It undoubtedly gives you huge control over much of your audience who have been abused. Many of those who haven’t been abused probably agree with your target. Yes, a few victims will be lost…those who are unsettled by it. There are other hated groups to target. You could target all sex offenders or murderers, etc.

            2. Why have a “grand design” that encompasses what you have stated is basically large scale retribution against everyone who did wrong to you if “memories are simply that?”

            To me, these concepts are entirely opposed. If the memory was just that… You can get stimulation from many sources. Fuel is not a problem. control, you’ve got options.

            When an IPPS hits the end of devaluation… You disengage from them. You hoovered someone after more than a decade. You hoovered someone after finding a handwritten note in a book. Yes, that note brought her to the front of your mind.

            3. Before hoovering someone after many years, were you remembering positive fuel, negative fuel, how good controlling her was, the stimulation? Why go for a direct assertion of control? I would guess you have had hoovers triggered via similar behaviors from victims. The woman you gave the DVD of “It” to…for malice like that, pretending all is well when you planned that…I’m expected to believe a very negative experience isn’t remembered or at least able to be referenced which pushes you to seek stimulation in that way. It’s mind boggling.

            To me your statements/actions don’t seem aligned. It reads as though you do attach weight to the wrongs done to you. That means the past matter. You are not suffocated by them as someone with PTSD might be.

            4. What causes a hoover trigger to fail?

            5. Do you ever lie to yourself?

            Thank you so much for your time. Much appreciation.

          9. HG Tudor says:

            1. Revenge caters to the Prime Aims and the Necessary Triad. I do not recall how I sounded so I cannot address the second question. I target that group because they deserve what I administer to them in light of my childhood.
            2. I have a Grand Design because it caters to the Prime Aims and the Necessary Triad. It is applicable and relevant to the world around me today.
            3. I got for the direct assertion of control, as explained previously, because that is the starting point for the assertion of control and the one which brings with it the greater level of benefit.
            4. A hoover trigger does not fail, there is either a trigger or no trigger.
            5. No.

        2. Leigh says:

          Hi Dani,
          Regarding your comments to Mr. Tudor on revenge and his grand design, I’d like to offer an alternative view.

          I see it as Mr. Tudor wanting to hold his transgressors accountable for the injustices committed against him. He couldn’t hold them accountable as a child but that doesn’t mean they should never be held to account. I see holding them accountable as a logical response. If someone broke into your home that would be considered a crime and the logical response is to have them pay for that crime. I see that as justice served. For me, its the same with Mr. Tudor. I see him making them accountable for their actions, as justice served.

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