Questioning Me
Do feel free to ask me anything you like. I am here for you to dip into my mind and for you to benefit from learning how I view the world. No question is off limits and if you want to establish a dialogue with me, then so much the better. You will be helping me so I can show the treatment team that I am interacting with people in this setting. You can ask me why I do certain things, what am I thinking, what my favourite food is, whatever you like. This is your chance to extract as much knowledge and information from me as you possibly can. If you want to just make a statement, go ahead. Fill your boots. I don’t know you so I won’t fly into a rage (this does happen when people I know question me but that is because they have an agenda – you don’t because we don’t know one another). I look forward to hearing from you.
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Hello Contagious,
I am sorry for taking so long with my reply to your comment (https://narcsite.com/2025/08/31/10-years-of-knowing-the-narcissist-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-471735). I hope you can find it here. I will generalise a good deal, and when I say “you” it is the general version, not you personally.
I do not mean to say that empathy is generally and always bad. I am referring specifically to the fact that it is a hindrance when it comes to identifying and escaping the narcissist, as it will cause you to make excuses for their behaviour and give them another chance, as is demonstrated on a daily basis by the comments on this blog. Out of empathy you will make decisions which are bad for you, such as being more likely to stay in a relationship where you are abused. When you look at it logically, as HG does, you see that they do not deserve your empathy and are abusing you, so the best thing to do is to GOSO. But it takes HG’s help and perspective, not the empathic one, to achieve that for most people here.
You say that “empathy by definition requires yourself to put yourself in another’s situation or shoes”. Yes, you put yourself in their shoes. But they are their shoes, not yours. Their shoes do not fit you. Also, who gave you permission to stick your feet into their shoes? By putting yourself in their situation, you are ignoring the fact that the other person is not you and may have very different wants and needs.
The typical example is the oft-mentioned desire to fix your partner. This supposedly empathic trait is one of the most selfish impulses I can think of and annoys me considerably. It requires
1. ascribing to yourself the ability to judge whether someone is broken or whole, while simultaneously denying that the other person has the same ability
2. assuming that you, not they, know what is best for the other person
3. assuming that you have the right not only to school the other person (which is rich coming from a person who clearly found that person good enough to select them as a partner in the first place), but moreover that you have the right and god-like ability to engage in changing their personality to fit YOUR needs. Naturally your partner will not be allowed to do the same to you! All these empaths seeking sympathy for how the narcissist changed them never see the irony in what they are saying.
And then, when the partner predictably enough proves to be unfixable, you complain about it, when you were the one to pick them as a partner in the state they were in at the time. They were good enough for you to start a relationship. You took them on As-is. If you do not like them, you should have picked somebody else. If you marry a crocodile, don’t go complaining when it bites off your arm.
Entering into a relationship with somebody under the premise that you love them as they are and then setting about changing them into someone else is dishonest and a betrayal of the trust of the other person, no matter whether it is a narcissist or an empath who does it.
Hello HG and readers.
Regarding the Lindsay Clancy trial: I’ve decided I like her lawyer, Kevin Reddington.
The following vid might give a good view of his nature and attitude. I’d bet he’s an empath, but he is also a badass.
Is it likely he would have a significant Super Empath school and a strong Saviour Empath cadre, I pose? He mentions in this vid that he used to do Tai Chi, which I liked to hear. This was in response to an Asian reporter asking his opinion on the use of holistic ways to treat post partum, which he did not directly answer.
I like the way he doesn’t let a thing go. He fights. I understand it’s his job though. He’s a no bullshit chap, yet his empathy shines through to me and I like it a lot. I don’t watch many trials and have almost no legal knowledge, so it might not be anything exciting for more seasoned crime followers!
Do you still like him after his character assassination of the holdout juror?
Today I learned that the devastating flood disaster caused by a glacier collapse in Nepal-Tibet is not being reported in full in China.
Chinese state media is controlling and sanitising vision released about the disaster. It is showing footage of recovery efforts, but not what is happening on the ground with regard to the scale or aftermath. It is not reporting actual experiences of rescue workers, locals who have lost homes, villagers left destitute, or orphans now without families.
International media organisations have found that Chinese social media platforms have censored videos filmed and uploaded by Nepalese locals showing the disaster.
China regards this kind of information as political, and it does not want the international community to hear Tibetan voices and concerns.
People in Australia with relatives and loved ones in the flood-affected regions have said they have not been able to contact them since the disaster and that communications appear to have been blocked. They say that Tibetan locals may fear their calls are being monitored.
That’s all they need following the devastation that occurred.
It sounds like political psychopathy.
Dear Mr Tudor,
“Free condoms” for asylum seekers!
This crap is getting more ridiculous by the minute.
🤦♀️
What say you Mr Tudor?
Dear Mr Tudor,
The immigration “saga” continues ….
These Moroccan degenerates pulled a baby dolphin from the water in Ceuta and deliberately hit it in the head with a stick. Dolphins are a protected species !!!!
It died!!!!!
Absolute scumbag psycho bastards!!!!!!😡
What say you Mr Tudor, Citizen Vigilante?
Mr. Tudor,
Will you be analyzing Lindsay Clancy at all?
There’s one thing I can’t understand. She’s no longer suffering from psychosis and she’s now aware of what she’s done. How does she live with herself knowing what she did to her children? Whether it was due to psychosis or not, for me, is irrelevant. I’d still be in misery knowing what I did & I wouldn’t be able to live with myself. I can’t say for certain what I’d do. But I think the pain would be too great to live with & I’d want to be put out of my misery.
I’m curious if you see any empathy in her at all.
I am considering doing so.
If she’s a narcissist or psychopath then you know she feels nothing for what she has done. If she’s not and has emotional empathy then she’ll likely be wracked with guilt.
Thank you, Mr. Tudor. It just doesn’t sit right with me. She’s putting on makeup. What for? It just feels incongruous to me. I hope you decide to analyze her.
Hi Rebecca,
I don’t trust her. The blank look reminds me of Kohlberger.
I feel a huge amount of empathy for her. I hope the defence is successful.
Interesting AA. I feel no empathy for her at all. My empathy is for the children. I struggle with her killing her children one by one. My mother had a newborn and 10 1/2 month old and an 8 year old disabled child at once. At the time she was undiagnosed but she had schizoaffective disorder. She suffered from delusions her whole life. No doubt my mother neglected us. But murder is next level. I don’t like using mental illness as an excuse. Plenty of people have mental illness and don’t murder. I think there’s more to it.
Well written Leigh, I agree. My mother tried on at least two occasions to choke me, she did not finish the job thankfully. She blamed the second time ever after on birth control pills she was on, there was no reason given for the first time, beyond I asked for it. There was no good excuse for either time. Mental illness, medications or any other excuse being allowed as a legitimate reason for murder opens the door to all kinds of things we do not want. I have no empathy, or sympathy, for her either.
Are you familiar with Andrea Yates’ case, Leigh? It’s similar. She was trialled twice. The first jury found her guilty. The second found her not guilty by reason of insanity. She remains institutionalised and waives her options for release.
I understand feeling empathy for the children. I wonder if it seems like people who feel empathy for Clancy don’t feel empathy for the children. Because that’s not correct. The children were failed, they suffered a terrible, underserved fate. I see them as the centre of this tragedy. I feel deep empathy and sadness for them.
And I don’t support all mothers who kill their children. But the way bad mothers usually kill their children is through neglect or sustained abuse.
Both Clancy and Yates are examples of women who were excellent mothers, who reported severe problems in their thinking in the months prior to the murders, who reported feeling suicidal, who were being treated by a system which didn’t seem to recognise the extent of the problem and which didn’t sufficiently coordinate their care.
To me that means while the children are the centre of the tragedy what’s around that centre needs a lot of scrutiny. In my opinion viewing Lindsay as solely responsible and a simple murderer leaves too many contributing factors under examined.
I agree AA, there are others who should be brought up on charges also, and held accountable for taking those children. But Lindsey Clancy did murder her children herself, she needs to be held accountable for that. I felt bad that those she reached out to didn’t respond but, she did it, she had other options, for example, she could’ve gone to a police station and said “I am feeling the urge to kill my children, I am surrendering them, their father can pick them up.” Or told them her urges and asked to be locked up until she could get help. She could’ve gone to a hospital and done the same. Etc. Also, I don’t think any mother who kills their children, regardless of how or how long it takes, can be considered anything but a bad mother.
Oops, for not* taking those children.
Hi AV,
Your comment is precisely what I’m talking about. We can’t just assume because someone is a mother that it means they have empathy & care about their children.
If she was so concerned for her children’s well being, she could’ve brought them to the police station or some other safe haven.
She did tell her husband and her mother that she was having thoughts about hurting the children. I think people think because she did do some things to stop it, she must have empathy. I’m not sold on that idea. It could’ve been cognitive empathy.
But honestly, I don’t like that the husband & mother didn’t take her serious either. The healthcare system dropped the ball too.
Hi AA,
I know you, Mari & others have empathy for the children. Its just really hard for me to have empathy for Clancy or Yates. And yes, I’m very familiar with Yates. As soon as this case came up, I went to that case to remind myself of what happened there.
I think the healthcare system failed those babies as well.
Please see my response to AV & my comment to all.
I can’t help but wonder about her empathy.
Hi Leigh,
I think you’re right, people think because she “tried” to get help, or maybe based just on the fact that she was a mother, that she had empathy. Neither of those things should automatically mean that.
I thought about her husband and mother, should they be brought up on charges also? I know if one of my daughters told me they were thinking of hurting their children, those kids would be with me and I’d be looking to get her help. Does her mother have no empathy? Did the husband? Why didn’t they take her serious, if she told them that? It is bizarre. I hope or justice system does it’s job well.
Hi AV,
That is what I wondered about too with Clancy, where was her family support, her husband, her friends? ? Why was she dealing with all this on her own?? Xx
Hi AV,
That’s exactly it! If the mother knew, why didn’t she take those children in? I have two different friends who’ve taken in their grandchildren because the mother was struggling & the children may have been in danger. I know I would do the same.
I think the mother & husband should be held accountable too but I doubt that will happen.
Since there’s been a mistrial, I wonder if they’ll plea bargain.
Dear HG and blog friends,
I had my appt with the oncologist, the one who won’t take no for an answer. She still wants to push the Tamoxifen on me. In fact, she said she was going to send the medicine to the pharmacy and I can pick it up at anytime. I had told her, No for the third time. She still wasn’t listening to me, or wanting to take the time to hear my reasons why I don’t want the drug. I was not happy. Complained again to my Advocate Social Worker at the hospital and I also called the pharmacy to stop the drug from being billed to my insurance and stop it from being filled. She is not getting kick backs on me. No means, no! Xx
Dear HG,
I think she is a Cerebral narcissist. I sent you a pic of her, she is not wearing her glasses in the pic, but you got an idea of what I mean about being groomed without being Somatically looking groomed…Anyway, do I have enough info for you to make an analysis on her, like an Early Warning analysis? Xx
She will be the oncologist for my future testings, so it is important for me to know. Xx
Thanks for your help and for your great works! Xx
I suspect the detail you have provided about your interactions will provide sufficient material to submit a Narc Detector to make a traffic light analysis.
Thank you, HG! Xx Can you send me the link to the Traffic light analysis? Thank you again! Xx
It is the Narc Detector, but I will know it is to be done on a traffic light basis when you submit it.
Ok, thank you, HG! Xx
Congratulations HG!
11 years! I wouldn’t have missed them for the world! Thank you you for all you continue to do.
Love you! Xxx
Thank you FM1T, always good to see you pop up.
Hi Leigh,
I saw a little bit of the court triall on the news and she looked very calm and together….too calm for what she did. I was thinking, for the trial she might have been medicated to stay calm? For me, that would have to be some strong medication, her eyes are not even red. Her face looks blank, like she is disassociated to what is being said and what is happening. She reminds me of Ted Bundy when he was on trial. He looked blank most of the time too. Xx
Dear HG,
I hope you do to an analysis on her, I would love to know how you see her! Xx
Dear Rebecca,
Clancy was a labour and delivery nurse. 🤔
Her jury consists of 3 men, nine women. Biased much ?🤔
I know someone who takes that many medications and they’re not a murderer.🤔
Interesting how everyone claims “mental” issues for literally everything, yet women can’t use pepper spray for self defence, cos we’d go to jail 🤔
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Hi Bubbles,
Here we sell pepper spray next to the guns and ammo. 😄😄xx
Dear Rebecca,
The govt took our guns away after the Port Arthur massacre, (I’ve read that was a set up). The govt is strict on “Aussies” having guns but it’s ok for Islamist terrorists to have them, apparently. It’s also ok for immigrants to carry machetes and knives, go figure.
Pepper spray is illegal to possess or carry for self defence in “most” of Australia, but it’s ok to use hairspray or deodorant 🤦♀️
We don’t have “the right to keep and bear arms” here !
Dear Bubbles,
That sucks that you can’t protect yourself with weapons. Xx Your wildlife is so dangerous, the insects there are even dangerous! It is too bad you can’t throw a funnel spider on someone breaking into your home! Hairspray and a lighter will work for a nice blowtorch though and both are legal to carry. 🙃xx
Dear Rebecca, Contagious and Mari,
Great suggestions lovelies,
I’ll just nip down to our back garden and gather some funnel web and redback spiders to throw onto these savages.
Whilst I’m there, I’ll jar some European wasps and bull ants haha
I don’t use hairspray, I could give deodorant a go with a BIC utility lighter, a blowtorch might be considered something one simply does not carry around.
It appears a bic lighter is illegal if used in self defence…. WT?
Wasp spray…. Illegal to use in self defence here
Pepper gel, mace ….. not legally available here
Women in Australia, can’t even go into a toilet safely 😡
Ohhh here we go, we can use a personal duress alarms that emits 130+ decibel siren ….oh goody !
Smartphone safety feature, rapidly clicking the power button 5 times …. are you kidding me, “sorry, can you just stop attacking me for a sec whilst I rapidly click and wait for help haha
Get this, we can gouge the eyes, a hard kick to the groin or a strike to the throat. We are allowed to use our knees, elbows, the heel of our palm rather than our fists (obviously so we don’t break our lovely manicured fingernails) WT ?
Clearly, men made this crap up! 🤦♀️
I think I’m gonna need a bigger dog ! A Doberman sounds nice!!
Hello Bubbles & Rebecca. On the topic of pepper spray, there’s pepper gel now, apparently more efficient in its deployment.
I can see your point about her being a labour and delivery nurse, Bubbles, but interestingly I also saw a comment from another labour and delivery nurse who said she’d experienced postpartum depression herself and hadn’t been prepared for the reality of it at all – it seemed to creep up on her without her really recognising what was happening.
I think Lindsay ought to have been hospitalised as soon as she confided in her mother and husband that she feared she might harm the children.
I’ve seen some very harsh judgements in the YT comments, but what struck me from the court case was seeing comments from women describing their own experiences of postpartum difficulties, including psychosis and severe reactions to medication. Several spoke about the shame of having dark thoughts towards their babies, putting on a front and not admitting to how bad things really were. It brought home to me how difficult it is to understand the reality of these conditions if you’ve never experienced anything remotely like them.
LC did tell several people she was struggling and having dark thoughts, yet somehow the help she received wasn’t sufficient to prevent what happened. I think that’s worth looking at alongside the question of her own responsibility.
It’s too easy, I think, to judge the time she took to journal, which someone criticised in comparison to their own experience as a mother, or the amount of help she had, or the fact that she was a delivery nurse, without knowing what was actually happening internally. Her notes apparently described having so much information about how to do every aspect of motherhood that it was “insane”, and she seems to have been perfectionistic about the children’s care. I wonder whether she had become completely overwhelmed by the sheer volume of detail and information.
Infanticide exists, tragically, including in the animal world. I find that a sobering thing to contemplate in the context of this case.
None of that excuses what she did, obviously. But I don’t think understanding the circumstances is the same as excusing them.
I’ve stopped looking at the case now. I think it was subconsciously affecting my mental health even in the short time I was following it, so I’ll probably leave the Isla Traquair podcast for a little while too!
Hi Mari,
I am avoiding the podcast for my mental health too. Listening to people fighting isn’t something I need to hear right now, and if the podcast isn’t like that, then I am sorry. It is the impression I got from hearing about it. It sounds like an attack on SV, not that SV isn’t deserving of it, but I don’t need to hear the bit#%ing. Xx
Hi Mari,
I also only watched the Clancy case briefly because it is so upsetting to watch and listen to. I understand how you feel about it and I feel I can’t make a judgment on her. I don’t know her and I didn’t listen to the whole case. I did notice her blank, calm face, which I found odd to see on a mother who ki##ed her kids. Her blank expression is disturbing to see and it does make me wonder what is going on in her head. Xx
I hope HG does a full analysis on her and we find out what she is in the analysis. Right now I feel sad for the kids and everyone who loved them. I feel confused and mixed feelings over Clancy. Xx
Dear Rebecca, I think you’ve made a wise choice by dodging the podcast for now. I did listen to a bit more after a couple of days, but I’ve stopped again, I’m finding it muddy and with respect to Isla and her work, I get the idea. I don’t need any more.
I’m also very not on board with Grannon in this situation and podcast, which is another reason I’ve had enough.
He could’ve made a statement and withdrawn from the doc, from it all, but in my opinion he’s manipulating the circumstances to avoid culpability. He’s good at ‘being honest’ about his part, without being completely honest with himself. I think he’s taken a leaf out of SV’s notebook with that. Hope I haven’t stressed you by writing that, Rebecca! You need as much peace and good vibes as poss I reckon.
Wasp spray is just as good and comes in big cans:)
Dear Mari and Rebecca,
It’s indeed a shattering scenario.
Postpartum is very real, I read postpartum psychosis is 1-2 out of every 1,000 women. I know women who have experienced postpartum depression, however, they never harmed themselves nor their family. They still have mental issues to this day. Most people I know are on meds of some sort.
Motherhood is extremely overwhelming, the constant tiredness and the never ending list of chores and demands. Then, at the end of a long exhausting day after you’ve flopped into bed, along comes the hand on the left breast. You literally have no desire, inclination or energy and it’s pretty much like this day in day out.
Some mum’s embrace and breeze thru it or they have a backup and support system in place, like the parents or aunties as babysitters etc, lucky them.
My thought process is the fact that she deliberately and consciously looked up very disturbing topics on the net, like strangling her children and the meaning of a sociopath, along with ways to commit suicide. She deliberately and consciously sent her husband out on an errand to execute her kids. Premeditated and with intent.
Personally, she has massive medical and psychological issues and I believe she’s still a danger to herself, she just proved that. Society wise, maybe not so. Whilst she’s extremely mentally unstable, she was conscious enough to plan months prior and execute 3 murders.
I guess we wait for the verdict.
What kind of person is she, I really don’t know, only Mr Tudor can answer that one?
Ps I totally agree lovelies, all this doom n gloom is way too much
Hi Mari,
No worries, you are not stressing me out about the podcast. I get the idea of what it is all about by the blog comments and some comments on live chats on HG’s YT channel. Xx
Some people have made comments about Evan Rachel Wood that I find a bit petty and unfair, but I like her, so perhaps I am being deaf to their compliants. I see her as a victim and she is now complianing about the new Practical Magic 2 movie recasting her part. They told her she is 10 years too old to play a college student graduate. Umm, Sandra and Nicole are too old to be playing 40ish too, but they kept their parts, so I see the reaaon she is upset about it. I think she was skipped over because of the Marilyn Manson drama. What do you think? Xx
Dear HG,
What do you think? Xx
Hello Mari and Bubbles:
Never heard of pepper gel. I have a mace, wasp spray, bat and PK and 357 magnum that I and licensed for. Oh and a Marine where I store the guns by. And we have a great problem with our guns… huge. But if you live in this, you must be able to defend yourself. Hey I admire vegans and vegetarians, I was one for 11 years, healthy, more loving to animals, cuts down on cow gas and protects the ozone but not eating meat is not life threatening. When you live somewhere where guns are common, not having one to me doesn’t help but being very responsible does. Why mine are in a safe by a trained sniper.
Well… I am American. I cannot comprehend the laws in Australia especially after that shooting. If the bad guys have guns, what can you do there to defend yourself. ??? I imagine many are glad guns are illegal in their countries and rightly so, not mine. Nightshade perhaps? But they would have to agree to a cup of tea. Sheesh.
Although I once took shi zen zo street fighting classes in my 20s and the best advice is not to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and to not pick the wrong people. Best weapon: your mind. I also got good at it so my instructor unleashed a young male on me, I got my but kicked- stronger bones, just stronger. Best bet: RUN!
Hi Bubbles,
Can you purchase a baseball bat and a baseball glove, and say you were playing ball ? We also have metal knuckles, car keys work for self defense too and spike rings. We have all kinds of self defense weapons here that are legally sold here.
A good dog would work there. Here, they shot defenseless donkeys. It is all crazy now. Xx
Hi Rebecca,
I thought I responded to you but I can’t seem to find it.
I don’t like the blank stare either. It upsets me to see her so calm about it.
I keep flip flopping. I can’t make heads or tails of it. I do this the healthcare workers are partially to blame as well.
I saw your comment about the oncologist? Can you get another one? I don’t like how much she crosses your boundaries.
Hi Leigh,
Yeah, the blank stare bothers me a lot and I heard she asked for help, but no one would help her. I am on the fence with her, I don’t know enough about the whole situation to figure her out. Xx
I could get a new oncologist, I am waiting on my Advocate Social Worker to talk with her and get back to me. Xx
Hi Rebecca,
Please keep us informed about the oncologist situation.
If Mr. Tudor allows, I would love to hear where she lands on the traffic light analysis.
Hi Leigh,
I will keep you updated on the oncologist situation, if HG allows, I will share the results of the analysis. Xx
Hello again Rebecca and Leigh,
I’ve been wondering if the blankness and black-eyed stare, might be the result of medication, plus the effect of whole thing. I can imagine being a shell if I survived all that and came to in ICU, knowing what I had done. Maybe I’m soft or daft, but I believe she did love and cherish her children formerly.
WARNING: this will not be for the faint hearted, so I suggest avoiding if mental health needs protecting: look on YT for ‘Lyndsay Clancy I Can’t Do This’ and you should find a Court TV video, showing her go to pieces. Court has to be abruptly ended. I just add that in contrast to the appearance of her being blank and emotionless.
According to testimony in court, she is apparently someone who, in her former life, had to have control, self discipline, work hard, do well, with all A’s in studies for example. Wanted to keep that perfect control and ‘success’ in her marriage and motherhood. WiserNow suggests OCPD which I can imagine is feasible.
Perhaps something was pathologically lacking before having children and the whole thing tore her mind to pieces and she could not handle it. Plus medications, plus PPD, plus whatever else.
Not making excuses for her, just trying to understand how someone who seemed functional, loved and loving could turn so badly. There’s plenty of evidence as to how that could have happened, but many can not reconcile how it ended, which is understandable.
So I just wanted to say, the stare is intense and weird, but I’m not surprised.
Re: the calmness, there’s a few reasons why she might appear that way, but for what it’s worth I did see her genuinely in bits in some parts and could see the tears on her face and her eyes.
Hi Mari and Leigh,
I agree, anything is possible for what could be the medical, emotional issues with Clancy. I watched only a little bit of the trail and can’t really make a judgement on her condition. I hope she gets the help she needs and she’s able to get support for dealing with killing her kids. I do have questions about where her family was during all of her struggles? Why didn’t they help her? Where was her supportive family? Did she not have anyone to help her in the family? Could their deaths have been prevented? Absolutely! Why didn’t the doctors help her?? They made an oath to help! Where were they? Xx
Hi Rebecca,
Both her mother & mother in law helped. She also told her husband & her mother about the thoughts she was having.
The whole thing is a mess!
Hi Leigh,
I don’t think her mother and mother in-law helped her in the way she needed help, otherwise those children could have been taken from her until she got well and treated for her health issues. Xx
“I don’t think her mother and mother in-law helped her in the way she needed help…”
Very good point, Rebecca!
Hey Leigh, I trust you’re doing alright.
I’ve been listening to parts of the court case, and I think this is a complex situation.
Her mother-in-law said Lyndsay was begging for help. She also seemed to have had a lot going on already in terms of wanting loads of children and putting herself under enormous pressure to be perfect – to what I’d say was a suspiciously pathological degree.
This link includes notes she wrote on her phone, including a search for “can you treat a sociopath?”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKysRFwZZUI
She was loath and nervous to take medication, saying some of it was making her feel worse and affecting her sleep, yet she continued seeking psychiatric help and also sought support from an organisation which apparently refused her twice because she was on too many medications.
She took herself to hospital at least once, saying she feared something terrible would happen. She stopped driving. She asked both her mother and mother-in-law for help, which they did.
Her mother said in cross-examination that Lyndsay had confided in her and Lyndsay’s husband that she was very afraid she would do something bad to the children. I understand there are lots of questions around why she wasn’t admitted, and that this was being discussed with the psychiatric nurse.
I wonder whether she didn’t want to leave her children and subsequently presented herself as doing better. Hindsight and objectivity are marvellous, aren’t they? People muddle along in their ruts and habits and don’t always see things clearly.
In the parts of the trial I’ve seen, she is very blank at times, often appearing to sob with her head down and her hair over her face. She could be dissociated or traumatised. It sounds as though she went through a real hell. Severe trauma, mental illness and medication can all profoundly affect emotional expression, and of course she also suffered catastrophic physical injury after throwing herself from the window.
The ex-husband seems very flat in court. Whether that’s the result of trauma, something else, or whether there is another aspect to his personality (I can’t help but wonder if it’s psychopathy), I have no reasonable idea. I know he’s married again. I also found myself comparing & contrasting his demeanour, with that of Amber Heard in court!
I’ve not listened to his public statement from 2023, but I’ve read that he implored people to forgive her as he had done, saying that he wasn’t married to a monster.
That’s why I don’t think this is a straightforward character or mental-health study. Even if she ultimately turned out to have a personality disorder of some kind, she was apparently aware that things were going very badly wrong and repeatedly sought help, expressed fears, saw professionals, journalled and searched for information. The loved ones I’ve heard so far, all say how much she loved them, how wonderful she was to the children, how much she cared about their wellbeing. My impression is that they’re being genuine about this, not just saying it from loyalty. Can’t prove that of course.
I’m not diminishing the horrific nature of what happened, but I don’t think it’s fair to confidently label and judge her from the outside, as so many armchair professionals on YouTube do. (I know that comes with the territory.)
Someone I know recently did some serious things which were so completely out of character that it was almost impossible to reconcile them with the quiet, slightly silly artist I know. He was subsequently diagnosed in prison with schizoaffective disorder and had been suffering psychosis. He had also been obtaining medication online and using other substances to self-medicate. it was only ‘good fortune’ that meant he did not kill or injure people.
Whether prescription or street drugs, it seems to me that altering an already severely dysregulated brain can be a very dicey game.
When the brain changes, reality changes.
So yes, I’d be interested to hear whether HG does an analysis. And I’d be particularly interested if she did come through as a narcissist or psychopath, because then the question of how severe mental illness, medication, psychosis or other comorbidities might have interacted with those traits…
Hi Mari,
Yes, I’m doing well. Thank you for your concern.
Ugh! I’m all over the place with this case. I actually believe the healthcare system should be held accountable on some level too. She also called the suicide helpline twice and they did nothing to help. The system failed those children.
The husband met the new wife in February of 2024. Only 13 months after the death of his children. They moved in together in 2025 & married in April 2026. I feel like he moved on quickly. My daughter is one of the ones who thinks he did it & Lindsay has been coerced into confessing.
I, myself can come off as cold too. I tend to be stoic. I don’t know if I could hide that kind of grief though.
For me, I don’t know if it matters why she did it. I still think she needs to be held accountable in some way. I’d like to know where she lands regarding her personality type though. If she has empathy, maybe it was her psychosis that caused her to do what she did.
Hi Leigh and Mari,
Considering Lindsay Clancy’s children, they were aged 5, 3, and 8 months.
That means the oldest was roughly 3.5 years old and the middle one 19 months when LC fell pregnant for the third time.
She was on maternity leave when she committed the murders, which means she was working while pregnant with the youngest.
All in all, it was a lot to deal with to have three children under five while working in a high-pressure job that demanded her time and energy.
A lot of women are in the same kinds of circumstances, so I’m not saying it’s an excuse by any means. I’m considering the situation. I think that what she did was horrific.
If she had a certain kind of mindset where everything had to be perfect all the time, the pressure she was under in her daily life may have been a factor in what she did.
In previous comments, I’ve mentioned OCPD. I thought of OCPD when I read about Clancy’s case.
Some of the traits in OCPD are: perfectionism; being driven by compulsions to get things ‘just right’; workaholism; and repressing emotions, empathy, and physical sensations in favor of willpower and self-control.
Also, OCPD is statistically the most prevalent ‘personality disorder’ in the population.
Some of the traits of OCPD look similar to narcissism (i.e. NPD), but the underlying motivations are different.
For example, a person with NPD may be driven because he/she wants to prove they are ‘special’ and superior compared to others.
A person with OCPD may be driven because he/she feels it is a moral failure to fall short of what they believe they should be like.
The questions surrounding what is or isn’t ‘superior’, or what is or isn’t a ‘moral failure’, are both subjective too, I think.
This isn’t to say that Clancy has either one or the other. The details of the case made me wonder.
Hi WN,
The prosecution’s argument was that she felt like a failure & was losing control and that caused her to do it.
Ugh! I’m all over the place with this one. Could she have been experiencing a threat to her control & she needed to nullify that threat to control?
This is why I need Mr. Tudor to analyze her.
Hi Leigh,
I agree that a Tudorscope analysis would be very interesting.
It’s certainly an intriguing case. Today I heard that the jury couldn’t agree on a verdict and it was declared a mistrial.
She could have been experiencing a threat to control and needed to get a feeling of control back. If so, it could have been a case of cold rage.
She tried to kill herself as well and that part of what she did raises questions for me. If she wanted to end everything, why didn’t she end her own life and spare the children?
There are so many elements in this case, it’s difficult to focus on any particular part. it’s no wonder it has ended in a mistrial.
“There are so many elements in this case, it’s difficult to focus on any particular part. it’s no wonder it has ended in a mistrial.” – I agree.
Mr. Tudor teaches us to look to the evidence but I don’t know how to look to the evidence in this case.
Thanks for your thoughts, WiserNow. I have a feeling, given what I’ve learnt -besides the obvious horrors of it – that LC was suffering from extremely severe postpartum issues. Like you, the possibility of pre-existing OCD crossed my mind.
Corroborating stories in YT comments from mums who’ve suffered what she appears to have suffered, show more depth of understanding than off the cuff judgements.
There’s no way around the crime itself, but for me, it’s not about that alone. She went through some physically damaging labours as well. That’s a lot of hard work and effort to get better, just to coldly and knowingly do what she did, in sound mind and good enough health. I doubt that.
In terms of where she does her time, I’d err on the side of caution, given the evidence and testimonies from those who’ve known her before the crime. It’s not about letting her off the hook so much as taking into account the illness and possible medical malpractice, as to how and where she does her time.
Some of the bits I watched physically hurt my heart for the mother and the three babies all. The case is very deep in its implications about modern American/Western life and the behaviour of people & communities in general.
Seems to me, the psychiatric staff are happy getting paid and loved ones are so half asleep they don’t quite sense what’s going on, enough to make sure she was safe and the children. I don’t think it’s fair to blame LC alone which I feel is happening in some quarters. She’s carrying the burden of others’ failings too, in my opinion.
Hi Mari,
The point you make about the deeper implications of modern American/Western life is valid, I think.
There are wider cultural and social aspects that create a vague and ambiguous influence on people’s actions. It’s like a toxin in the oxygen that everyone’s breathing and it affects social ‘collective’ behaviour.
I was actually thinking the same kind of thing about the way Sam Vaknin was able to worm his way into academic and social spheres in Europe.
There is an acceptance or normalisation of certain things gradually over time until they happen in plain sight and no one bats an eyelid.
Just a little sidenote, Mari, which I hope you won’t mind …
You have mentioned OCD in your comment and I think you were referring to OCPD.
I thought I’d mention this because the two are actually quite different even though they sound similar.
WN, thanks again for your response and insights.
Of course I do not mind your side note and indeed, I stand corrected.
OCPD is the more likely issue, if any OC’s at all.
I’m thinking there was something going on with LC before all the PPD etc., kicked off. I feel OCPD could be a fair starting point to consider.
That probably went well under the radar, because success, discipline, control and perfectionism are admirable traits in this world.
I do think something extra was up with her, else she would never have done the crime she did. She even searched ‘can you treat a sociopath?’
I wonder if her erosion of empathy from illness/imbalance/meds caused her to wonder if she is a sociopath.
I know the arguments in court include her perfectionism and control. The prosecution’s psychiatrist said he believes she mainly wanted to commit suicide, with ‘altruistic filicide’. Her need for control could have meant she could not bear to leave her children but just had to commit suicide. It’s just awful, any way we look at it. But the need for control could have come more from OCPD for example, than from being a narc or psychopath. Mabe not!
Hi Mari,
I thought I responded to you but I don’t see it.
I just wrote a response to AA about how I feel as well. I want to add something though that I wrote in my original response to you.
I believe the healthcare system failed those children. There’s a huge part of me that thinks the healthcare system needs to be held accountable too. I can see that she tried to get help and no one helped her. I hope that this case creates more awareness but I fear it won’t.
Even with that, I still think she needs to he held accountable.
Hey Leigh, I think she’ll be held accountable as she admits to it. I think the issue is where she will be placed to be held accountable. I mean, it’s almost splitting hairs, ‘cos in her own words in the hospital, she’s lost everything. If she stays in a secure hospital, or even prison, I’m guessing the rest of her days could be highly medicated, possibly partially dissociated and half paralysed.
I can imagine if she really, truly did what she did at the end of her tether plus all other contributing factors, e.g., medications, medical malpractice; ignorance of all involved; misdiagnoses, overlooked personality or mental issues prior to the recent issues; a possible lack of attention and true empathy from the husband (don’t know), she might want to try and clear her name a bit.
Those with no empathy for her, don’t seem likely to change their minds about her final acts, even if the mental health case wins. Perhaps it’s just for her own and her family’s satisfaction.
It’s questionable that LC had psychosis, I’m aware. I’m wondering if she’s been totally misdiagnosed. I mean, clearly there was something extremely wrong happening. The thing that gives me any doubt is the body of evidence that she is deserving, to my mind, of some compassion. It doesn’t mean it’s morally OK, or that child killing will be normalised, if LC is acknowledged legally as having serious problems prior. Problems she tried to fix.
Someone on YT was saying the floodgates are open if she is acquitted of 1st degree murder. I couldn’t resist saying to them, the vast majority of mothers in the US (his country of concern) are highly unlikely to jump up and murder their children, just because this woman’s mental health was taken into account for her sentencing and where she is imprisoned. We then hear that a two year old was killed by a mother who mentioned LC in a text shortly before she did it, or some such story. That person got back to me using it as proof that the floodgates have indeed opened and it’s all go for the child murders and people like ME are the problem because I want to excuse child extermination.
I said it does not prove his point, I do not excuse child extermination, he’s being irrational and thanks for taking the time to speak with me.
What’s happened is a major anomaly. Yes, on the surface it’s heinous, unforgivable, etc. But even a cursory listen to the testimonies and consideration of evidence suggests she was genuinely very unwell. Just because the majority do not end up killing their children when in similar circumstances, it doesn’t mean she deserves no legal mercy whatsoever in my opinion.
Her defence says she knows full well what she has done, that the children are the victims here, that she has lost everything and still grieving. There’s no accounting for how she might behave or appear now. I mean, erosion of empathy or what? I doubt that improved in the wake of all this, plus a possible heavy medication protocol. It’s not a neat case, but I think the human mind seeks neatness in order to make sense of things. We all know it’s wrong. If it starts happening noticably more, I highly doubt that is LC and her verdict’s sole responsibility.
Hi Mari,
I know. I also saw that people think if the verdict is not guilty because of insanity, that more mother’s will do the same. My first thought is that’s just rubbish. But after reading WN’s comment, could it become normalized? For fuck’s sake, I hope not. I don’t worry about mother’s doing it more but I do think it could set a precedent & more may use it as there defense.
In another comment you mentioned her empathy. Thats the key for me. Does she have emotional, genuine empathy?
Hi Mari,
I am unsure what you mean by “legal mercy”, can I ask what that would look like to you?
Message for A Victor, can’t reply directly to your question.
‘Legal mercy’ to me, would be continuing her time – at least for now – in a secure hospital, prison hospital, whatever it’s called, with acknowledgement from the (judge?) that up until the murders she was apparently not being abusive to her children or doing anything ‘wrong’ .
I’m not trying to be clever here, claiming to be right about anything , or trying to say she has empathy, ever had empathy, etc. She clearly had an empathy deficit for whatever reason.
I’m sorry to read that your mother tried to choke you twice. I can absolutely understand how strongly you might feel about a mother doing this to her babies and the need for justice for murder. I mean, even more than those who have not had that level of abuse. I don’t truly care if she goes to prison or secure hospital ultimately. Either way her life is pretty much over and I think she knows it. I just think she deserves compassion from those able to consider that she really did suffer and lose her mind in the lead up to the murders.
I know that my recently incarcerated loved one had psychosis that sneakily increased and then crescendoed in his final spree of dangerous activity. What he did must have been somewhat premeditated, but I believe it was whilst his illness was escalating. I’ve not found out yet. He was being militant about something political. His brother said it was clear in hindsight, he had “lost his fucking mind”. He did not know the extent because he was not using the same social media as his brother, where it could be seen in the last days, sadly. I very much hope my loved one is granted some leniency at his sentencing, because I know his behaviour was NOT his true nature, despite what strangers on Facebook say under the new story. It’s not a high profile thing by the way! So maybe I can more readily consider that LC may have lost her mind in a similar way, but it was obviously the worst of the worst acts.
11/12 jurors had reasonable doubt of her guilt as per the prosecution. The 12th had reasonable doubt but refused to apply it to the ballot, so the mistrial was called. If the 12th had put that in the ballot, the defense would have ‘won’.
Ey – I am no legal buff here, if I’m saying things wrong.
I got told off on YT for saying the 12th juror did not follow the law, but I thought that’s what the judge said. 😀 I cba to even check now. I might later though!
I think I’m just about done with putting my neck out about this – how on earth I managed to get myself into commenting on YOUTUBE about it I do not know.
Thank you for the reply Mari. Yeah, I pretty much avoid commenting on YT, not worth it.
Hi All,
I have a lot of thoughts whirling around.
My first thought is that I don’t like using mental illness as an excuse for abhorrent behavior. My mother had mental illness & neglected us. Her weapon of choice was food. Often times it was because the food was “poisoned”. Although it didn’t stop her from eating it. She never tried an alternative way to feed us either.
I also don’t like using the excuse of not knowing right from wrong. Many narcissists & psychopaths believe they’re right. As an adult when I told my mother she starved us, she told me she tried to feed us but we wouldn’t eat anything she gave us. Horse shit!
Just because there’s mental illness doesn’t necessarily mean there’s also a lack of empathy. With my mother, it wasn’t just her mental illness, it was also her lack of empathy.
Charles Manson was diagnosed with schizophrenia & his behavior wasn’t excused because he was mentally ill.
I think because Clancy & Yates are women & mothers we assume they have empathy. We want to be understanding & supportive. I don’t think just because you’re a mother you have empathy.
Clancy & Yates were both smart women & its possible they both displayed cognitive empathy.
I don’t think it was just mental illness that caused this catastrophe.
Hi Leigh,
Mental illness is a part of Clancy’s issues, the other part is, she did ask for help, reached out for help and help was denied and sugarcoated. Go home, take a pill and relax….Yeah, that wasn’t helpful for her at all.
My LMRVNarc mother was diagnosed with bipolar PD, she was supposed to have been on medicine. She didn’t stay on it and things didn’t change for my brother and I. I agree with you Leigh, mental illness isn’t an issue, especially when they are like my mother and refused treatments and continue to abuse. From what I heard, Clancy tried to get help and the healthcare system failed to help her. She didn’t willing not take medicine, she was sent home to deal with her issues alone. That is the difference between her and my mother. She wanted help, my mother thought she had no issues, even with the bipolar diagnosis. Xx
Dear Leigh, I think you make some valid points, coming from your own experience. She clearly had an empathy deficit for whatever reason. IF she had something undiagnosed before, like OCPD, as WiserNow and I were discussing, this might get in the way of empathy. Maybe she had strong sociopathic/psychopathic traits. She certainly liked control and wanted loads of children (collecting?)
You’re free to feel and think as you do. If you feel she’s abhorrent and a cold blooded, sound minded murderer and nothing more, nothing less, you’re allowed. We’re not the ones trying her afterall. If you’ve conflicting thoughts, emotions, etc, let ’em come. It’s not a neat and tidy case in my opinion.
I do feel something for her, whereas some people who do these things are clearly full-on scroats and need putting in the bin and I feel nothing for them. I’m not saying my feeling is justified or correct. It came as a result of checking some of the trial evidence and testimonies.
JUST IN! I’ve just seen HG’s Lyndsay Clancy post. It will be very interesting to have HG’s clinical perspective. I’m open to all of it. The whole thing is dark af.
Hi Mari,
Please don’t take my cynicism & stubbornness personally. I can dig my heels in too when I feel strongly about something. I can appreciate your empathy for Clancy though. I understand you wanting her to be shown some compassion & mercy.
I’m sure my childhood has affected my view of her as well. As I’m maturing, I’m trying to learn to be more open minded & I do jureally appreciate your input.
I did see that 11 of the 12 jurors gave a verdict of not guilty by reason of insanity. I did find that interesting.
I’m so pleased that Mr. Tudor is analyzing her as well!
I also wanted to say that I’m sorry about your family member. Both my brothers have scizo affective disorder too. I don’t know how I escaped it. By chance I guess. I remember when the FBI called me about my younger brother. The first thing I said was that he suffers from mental illness. I hope your family member will be ok.
Dear HG,
I watched your video on “Narcissistic Cementation” -“King Charles and Camilla: Narcissistic Cementation: How It Works” – and it blew my mind. Thank you for your work. Absolutely explosive.
So, it turns out that there can actually be an extremely effective and stable union between two narcissists, one that satisfies the needs of their narcissism so well that it is in both of their interests to preserve the marriage for the rest of their lives?
Wow. That is mind-blowing.
And I find myself thinking: well, in that case, just leave the empaths alone! )))) Give the empaths a chance to find other empaths and form their own union – “and they lived happily ever after and died on the same day.”
Dear Mr Tudor,
Harry and TOW going back to live in England, enrolled the kids in school already!?!?!
This all sounds rather ominous!
This is making huge headlines here Down Under !
What say you Mr Tudor ?
See my videos.
Dear Mr Tudor,
I already have hehe
Just hope they don’t come and live Down Under, can’t stand them 🤦♀️
Dear Mr Tudor,
10 Downing Street traded a cobra for a rattlesnake.
This new snake wants middle class and wealthier areas to “play their part” and house asylum seekers.
How about NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! No one should !!!!!
What say you Mr Tudor? Increase your castle’s moat with more “alligators” ? Haha
@bubbles
I’m actually looking forward to more drama unfolding as they try housing male refugees in wealthier areas, once something starts affecting rich people, there will be change. In fact I think they should set up a huge asylum centre next door to HG of 2,000 men, then suddenly there might be mass deportations taking place, no appeals granted.
It would be a lot better if there were more women or even mostly women claiming asylum. But the amount of single men coming over is the devils work. We have to be honest, men cause the most problems.
Dear Witch,
That’s hilarious !
Imagine Mr Tudor being asked to house asylum seekers! Boiling water, spiked grilles, longbows, crossbows, catapults, springalds, would all be in full force after gathering his army of lieutenants haha
There’s plenty of rooms (775) at Buckingham Palace and (100) at the whole 10 Downing St complex
They could build housing trust homes all over the palace grounds and on other grandiose estates and in all the other empty castles for starters
The “whole” cabinet ministry and parliament should offer their homes and estates as sanctuary.
Lead by example, I say 🤣
And yes, witch, you’re quite right, men do cause the most problems ! Hehe
Oh it would be far easier for me to address than mustering such defences, I would simply tell them “no”.
Dear Mr Tudor,
They don’t understand the word “no” ….hence a 9 page booklet 🤣
En garde 🤺
I was referring to those asking on their behalf if one would house them, not the migrants themselves.
So, if the migrants asked you directly, you’d say ‘yes’ then?
No migrant would be able to ask me face to face. Accordingly, it’s also a no to them.
Same rules apply to Arsenal fans.
Dear Mr Tudor,
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh, I seeeeeeee
Gotcha boss
😉
I’ve been a city fan this past year, so a yes for me then, though Id like a firm no.
You do like to try and wind me up!
@Bubbles
Unless it was hot Algerian women migrants – then HG would cut the welcome ribbon himself
Dear witch,
The only Algerian “woman” I’ve seen is Imane Khelif, the boxer ! 😎
Haha
Good point, Witch.
Either hot Algerian women migrants …
… or any migrant holding a credit card and knocking on the bolted strongroom door of the Knowledge Vault.
The Knowledge Vault isn’t bolted, it’s available to anybody who wishes to make payment for the valuable information inside. Payment is regarded as expertise has a value and also to prevent people from plagiarising my work.
@bubbles
I’ll help you out
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZN8Fe4awN/
@bubbles
And in case tiktok doesn’t work for you
There’s YouTube:
https://youtube.com/shorts/fuwfb12XivA?is=NuS1Rl8tQFFoT1IL
That’s fair enough, HG. Duly noted.
Dear witch,
I was being facetious, being that the Algerian “she” boxer is a “he”.
The female in the video was gorgeous, thank you
Witch: that video! LMAO! Wish I could dance like that! 😂
@Bubbles
I know you were joking but I had to bless everyone’s day with the videos anyway, you know I can’t help myself!
Dear witch,
I’m more than happy you blessed my day, I can’t help myself either, it’s an empath trait haha
That’s why I’m appreciative Mr Tudor gives his blessing for us to bless hehe 😉
hmmm Bubbles,
Your feeling of being ‘blessed’ by watching the video doesn’t sound like an ’empath trait’.
Maybe I should refer to you as ‘he/she’ as well …
Dear WN,
I really don’t understand your comment
Dear Mr Tudor,
Brigitte Gabriel has posted Dearborn, Michigan is gone. No-go zones implemented now, open defiance and Muslims yelling Allahu Akbar, this is their territory now.
And they said it couldn’t happen in America !
Hi Rebecca,
There’s so much going on, I started a new thread.
The first link is the psychopath vs sociopath video. The second link is the Constance Marten & Mark Gordon analysis. I know there’s at least 4 videos. There may be more. You’ll have to do some digging on YouTube. The last is an article on Chris Watts. Mr. Tudor has some video on him too.
https://youtu.be/Aazw8dzcdMM?si=GPiAyrVx67KhBhsc
https://youtu.be/csEpzjiN-sE?si=u_Zx7f4YgBbR7aZX
https://narcsite.com/2018/09/07/a-very-murderous-narcissist-analysis/
Thank you, Leigh! I will watch them, thanks for the links! Xx
Dear Mr Tudor,
Jason Arday found dead, well that was unexpected 😱
What say you Mr Tudor?
Watch the forthcoming video about this.
Dear Mr Tudor,
Thank you I shall, can’t wait !
Dear HG,
Do you think Dr. H is an UMRC Type B narcissist, or do I have her all wrong? I don’t think I know enough about her for a NDC. Xx
Dear Mr Tudor,
I see England just had the “wildfire” ALERT on everyone’s phones across the nation.
We had a national ALERT on our phones a couple of weeks ago! I tried to deactivate it, still came thru.
Sus much, I do not believe them for one second. They are planning something!
Social control, forced behavioural monitoring, conditioning, data siphoning, you name it !?!?!?!
The increasing stench of vermin rats and filthy money is extremely offensive to my delicate nostrils.
What say you Mr Tudor?
The overriding problem is that there are to many idiots on this planet. The alert is a waste of time because ;-
1. The people who need to be told such things (and believe me there are plenty of them) will not pay any attention;
2. There are plenty of people who know this and therefore do not need to be told ; and
3. Use it for “don´t have a BBQ alerts” means you dilute the impact of when it might truly be needed.
Far better to access HG´s guide to essential protection and stockpiling as available in the Knowledge Vault.
Dear Mr Tudor,
Totally agree
I’m stockpiling as best I can single-handedly, thank you for your reply and advice.
@HG
I have to disagree, there are people out there who without thinking that deeply about what they are doing would have a BBQ. My in laws have BBQ’s in the summer, sometimes there’s been more than one in a year. I myself wouldn’t have thought about wildfires without the alert, I guess idiocy is on a spectrum, but out of emotional empathy, and logic I would listen to the alert.
Dear Mr Tudor and lovelies,
You are not going to believe this!
Squat-style flushing toilets have been installed in a £1 mil public restroom facility on Silver St bridge in Cambridge AND defended by Cambridge City Council. They are charging a £1 user charge. This is to cater to international and foreign visitors who PREFER them.
What the actual ?
What concerns me, is, this will be coming to each and every western country, same with “call to prayer” !
I discovered, Mohammad’s 10th wife was a JEW !! Her lineage traced directly back to Aaron, the brother of Moses. Well well well !
@bubbles
When Mohammed went to war with jewish tribes and conquered- they would take the males and females left as slaves. This is how Mohammed ended up with a Jewish wife because Mohammed offered her marriage instead. Muslim men were permitted to have sex with the women even if they were already married. This is in the Quran. There’s also a Hadith where a couple of Mohammed’s wives ask him to stop visiting and having sex with a female slave and Mohammed said Allah told him he is permitted to do that.
Jews had a system for war captives but it was more restrictive than that, when they went to war they would kill everyone a part from the Virgin females to prevent revenge. a Jewish man could marry these women or take them as concubines but she was allowed a minimum period of mourning and she had to shave her hair off to test whether that man was serious about marrying her and it wasn’t just out of pure lust. So he wasn’t allowed to have her immediately like how it was under Mohammed.
Some Muslims argue that the women had to consent to sex but there is absolutely nothing written no where about consent – these women were property. There isn’t anything anywhere about legal repercussions for raping a slave in Islam.
Thankfully the same kind of slavery isn’t considered normal today.
Dear witch,
Thank you so much for that interesting piece of history.
I read his Jewish wife Saffiya had two previous marriages, prior to Mohammed. She was approx 17 by the time she married him, her third marriage. Good grief !
Mohammad was married 11 times, possibly 13. Bloody hell !
@Bubbles
The Quran and Sunnah is not even the worst of it, even though they are pretty bad. It’s the Shariah manuals by Islamic Scholars that can be so disturbing that most Muslims do not even follow what’s written in them. I saw an ex-Muslim translate part of a Shariah manual – this part was about child marriage, it included things like what to do if you gave your child bride a vaginal fistula.
Get on the ex-Muslim side of the internet, they expose the dirt!
Dear witch,
It’s a sickening tragedy to all these females and totally preventable.
Disgusting beyond belief !
I just read where Morocco’s govt have been slaughtering (a lot inhumanely) around 3mil stray dogs in preparation for the FIFA World Cup. The world is seriously beyond comprehension right now witch.
Dear Mr Tudor,
Reports are, PM Andy Burnham has gone abroad on holidays with his wife and kids after only 15 days in office (how selfish of him) hahaha
No Deputy PM appointed, so who’s running the country ?
Good to see he’s got his priorities right……. hahahahahaha
What say you Mr Tudor?
Dear Mr Tudor,
The Daily Wire are premiering a movie, Run Hide Fight : Infidels, on the 16th September 2026.
A must watch !
Dear HG,
On reflection, I’d like to be more specific regarding my last Very Important Question.
To repeat: I have a tendency to fall straight to sleep if watching a film or something. I’ve noticed it’s irritated two otherwise good-hearted and tolerant boyfriends. In contrast, my mum never minded during a visit. She’d say I obviously needed the rest.
I thought it’d be fun(?) but interesting to ask if you’ve had girlfriends with film-induced narcolepsy like mine and if so, did it irk you and would you do horrid things to them to wake them, or chastise them for it?
For specificity, I’ll ask: if you’ve never had that experience, can you imagine if you did? Can you imagine what kind of reaction you’d have and impart it here? Would you hide irritation and exact some kind of comeuppance later, or act on it acutely?
I presume this would depend on whether the source of annoyance was in the devaluation stage.
If it was the Golden Period and it was your IPPS, perhaps you’d stroke their hair and tell them how endearing it is, when they fall straight to sleep during a film 😀 However, during devaluation it might be different. What was once endearing is now a heinous act of disrespect and worthy of a night’s silent treatment, perhaps even withdrawal to another social event/date with a DLS or IPSS?
The scope is rich and varied! Could you suggest your most likely reaction in that situation please?
Please see my earlier answer to the question posed.
Dear Mr Tudor,
Abdul el Sayed, just won the Democratic primary nomination for the US Senate in Michigan, they only have 140 to 145 mosques in Michigan, maybe they’ll catch up to Texas who have 330 mosques, but hey, who’s counting?
Currently, there are zero Muslim senators in the United States Senate, best it’s kept that way!
What say you Mr Tudor ?
Dear HG,
Have you had girlfriends who fall asleep during films and does it irritate you? I particularly mean watching films at home.
If yes, have you done horrid things to them in order to wake them up, or do you say something crushing to them to chastise?
I have a weird tendency to fall almost straight to sleep when I watch a film or something. It has irritated otherwise tolerant and good-hearted boyfriends 😀
Yes, that has occasionally happened. Often it does not concern me because if she is asleep she is not going to talk over the film or ask questions which might interrupt my viewing. If it is a film I wanted her to watch specifically, her slipping into slumber is an offence to my need to control and she will be roused from her sleep.An electric cattle prod serves one well in that regard.
I have a longstanding NISS (a male friend) who will be asleep within 15 minutes of watching a film in the evening. He will remain awake to watch the news or sport, but put a film on and he´s gone. What an oddbod.
Thanks for that insight, HG! Made I larf, it did.
I don’t doubt you have a cattle prod.
Is the NISS friend the one who made a spider ladder from toilet paper?
I thought of that story last night when a mahoosive spider appeared in my kitchen. It -I am guessing she – resisted rescue and has disappeared somewhere in the house.
If you’d prefer to delete my second version of this question I’d be happy about it. Seems a bit overkill doesn’t it? 😀 I shall trust your judgement.
No, NISS Sleepy is a different person to NISS Spider Saver.
No need to delete.
So we’ve got: NISS-S and NISS-SS.
“ Yes, that has occasionally happened. Often it does not concern me because if she is asleep she is not going to talk over the film or ask questions which might interrupt my viewing. ”
I’m finished 🤣
Dear friends, has anyone else noticed that the Knowledge Vault still doesn’t have a section on Greater narcissists? Then again, I suppose it would be the shortest guide ever: “You’re in trouble, kid.” 🙂
There are two reasons for that :-
1. You are far less likely to have personal involvement with a Greater Narcissist compared to the other classifications , and
2. If you are, you need to address it through a consultation.
Hello,
can 2 empaths fall in love for each others?
I think I’m in love with another empath.
Is this possible?
She is extremely kind, gentle and empathetic to me.
She is married and flirts a little with me.
Yes they can Trunks.
If you have concerns about the other person, put them through a Narc detector to secure peace of mind.
Dear HG,
I recently read your analysis of Alec Baldwin and found it very interesting.
I was wondering whether you have ever analysed John Travolta.
Assuming he is a narcissist, which school and cadre do you think he belongs to?
I have always found John Travolta strangely off-putting. Long before I knew anything about narcissism, there was something about him that made me feel uncomfortable, although I could never explain why. Interestingly, I have exactly the same reaction to Alec Baldwin. I would almost put them in the same category based purely on instinct.
Travolta appears to have maintained a long marriage with Kelly Preston, yet for many years there have been repeated allegations about relationships with men. One of his former pilots even publicly claimed they had an affair. If any of that is true, it would suggest that he managed to lead a double life for a very long time.
Kelly Preston’s story is also interesting to me. At first, I thought, “What kind of men did she choose?” She always struck me as a genuinely empathic person. But then I realised that perhaps it was these men who chose her. Charlie Sheen, George Clooney and John Travolta… it almost looks like a collection of men who are often discussed as possible narcissists.
Another striking coincidence is that before Kelly, Travolta had a partner who died from breast cancer, and then Kelly herself also died from breast cancer. I do not believe in fate or mystical explanations, but it is still an extraordinary and tragic coincidence. Then, of course, there was the heartbreaking loss of his son.
I would be very interested to hear your thoughts on John Travolta and how you would classify him, if indeed you consider him to be a narcissist.
I haven’t analysed Travolta. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Hi Josephina:
I dated briefly then became friends for 20 years ( and adored his wife and children), a man who was involved with Kelly at USC right before she dated Charlie Sheen. By all accounts per him, a born again Christian who died recently and young if a heart attack, she was a nice and “ very sweet” young women in her 20s. He only had nice things to say about her … but not Charlie. I also met Charlie Sheen several times about 30 years ago – at least 6- including at his home in Malibu. He did drugs went around alone to parties looking for pick ups. When I spoke to him, I found him shallow and he spoke quickly as I believe he was on something. I never saw him drink …. I thought then he was an addict: drugs and women. Women ( not me but he tried once) would welcome his attention. This was 30 years ago long before the scandals that proved my hunch was right BUT many people knew it who saw him more than me and that lead to his downfall.
As to John… it would be interesting. His active role in Scientology is a flag too. It’s a shame dear Doug isn’t around to ask:(
Good idea!
Hellooo, Contagious.
Charlie Sheen got around, didn’t he? I have a peculiar, intermittent interest in a channel on YouTube **dear HG, do you prefer we don’t mention other channels on your blog? I’m going to mention it this time but won’t keep doing so 🙂 – Soft White Underbelly** He speaks to loads of narcissistic people, but some of them are lovely.
One of those lovelies is his first ever filmed subject, Caroline. Her first talk is about her life, how she ended up on drugs and homeless. Anyway, she ‘dated’ Charlie Sheen too, although she later discovered her friend was selling her to him! Every time she ‘dated’ him, Gigi got paid. Caroline said Sheen was lovely to her and taught her a lot (about snorting drugs?) They did mounds of cocaine together and went to Costa Rica, after her fighter pilot brother died during a routine exercise 🙁
She previously had been engaged to the owner of Billabong, who totally lost it once meth got involved and it broke her heart. She was 17 and he was 27 when they first got together. She also ‘dated’ William Shockley (actor). Now she’s on the streets, addicted to heroin and prostituting, it’s so sad to me. I would guess she’s on Fentanyl or anything going by now.
Maybe you met her, Contagious! She loved pro surfers and lived in Malibu with the Billabong bloke.
“about snorting drugs” – I spit out my coffee when I read that!
You crack me up sometimes!
Hello Mari:
No, i dont really know him or his life. That story is sad and she sounds victimized. Funny I know the general counsel for Billabong ( or was?). They were South African him and his clients. I wonder if it changed owners. This was 20 years ago so…. I don’t recall the clients of this attorney I worked with as I do a different type of law and never got the names of his clients but knew they were that company and his sole client. Lots of trademark work. I loved their surf wear however. I think it is a stream- of sorts the name.
Back to Charlie: no doubt he hurt a lot of women and is a narcissist. Bad vibes. He self destructed too. Give a narc a noose…..as HG says;)
Dear Contagious, thank you for your response. Yes, the Billabong drug addict sold Billabong when he lost himself to meth, according to the lady I mentioned. I think it might have changed hands a while before you dealt with them.
I’d take a guess that Charlie is a narcissist. I didn’t even know if he’s alive and he is, but was just this week the subject of a death hoax I think! Spooky!
Yes, Caroline said Sheen broke her heart ‘a little bit’, but she expected that. Along for the ride, I guess. She was molested at school and nobody would believe her. She says she changed inside from that time onward.
Give ’em enough rope, yep! 🙂
Hi, dear Contagious. I always love reading your posts. You tell such fascinating stories — your life really does sound like something out of a movie! I’d be so curious to know what you’re like in real life. But I have a feeling you’re just as fabulous a woman in real life as you are on this forum.
I agree, Josephina! There’s definitely something off about Travolta. I would love an analysis of him too!
I also agree, Contagious! Travolta’s role in Scientology is a huge red flag!
Leigh
Oh, Scientology… It does make me wonder. I assume Scientologists consider certain types of medical treatment unacceptable, although I’ve never looked into it very deeply. Travolta’s wife apparently did undergo medical treatment, but was she herself actually a follower of Scientology? I don’t know. If she was, I wonder whether there were certain forms of treatment she might have refused because of her beliefs. This is purely a hypothesis, of course.
Hi Josephina,
Yes, Kelly Preston was a Scientologist too. Scientology isn’t against medicine for medical care. They don’t believe in medicine for psychiatric care though.
I’m sure it played a part in her decision-making process though.
Dear Josephina,
This comment on Insta tickled my fancy…..
“Actors are the weirdest people on earth. Imagine being passionate about pretending to be other people and having an ego about it. Complete psychopaths.”
Scientology is weird, period ….and anyone who joins it (usually those with mental health issues and life disruptions). They have very clever self help strategies and claim to solve all life’s problems. I know from experience, another money making cult (who basically have you hooked for life).
I’m not a fan of JT, I used to like him when he started, then he came across “strange”!
Pretty much all of Hollywood, they’re all cooked ! Haha
Dear Bubbles
A lot of my patients are actors, and one of them once said to me, “It’s such a narcissistic environment in our profession. I’m sure you know exactly what I mean.”
She was clearly hinting that the medical profession can be just as toxic.
Hi Josephina,
My ex best friend is a psychologist. I say ex best friend because she’s a narcissist and I’ve cut ties with her. I think narcs & psychopaths are in the medical profession more than I care to admit.
Sorry if this disappoints you, Leigh. But at the clinic where I work, most of the doctors are narcissists. They are very good at what they do professionally. But in psychiatry in particular, they sometimes do some truly outrageous things (hitting patients, sexually harassing patients, etc.).
Empaths don’t tend to last very long at our clinic. There have been some dramatic departures because of the management.
I’m just a steadfast little tin soldier.
And I suspect that the founder of the clinic may actually be a psychopath (I’m only speculating here, because he genuinely seems to enjoy hurting people). I’ve had very little interaction with him myself, but I’ve heard plenty about his exploits. Although even during our minimal interaction, he still tried to get a dig in at me.
Hi Josephina,
You didn’t disappoint me. I’m incredibly cynical. I would’ve doubted you if you told me they had empathy.
Dear Josephina,
Oh they sure are. Mr Tudor has definitely confirmed it.
Playing God with people’s lives or just “playing” God haha
Hello HG and readers,
If you feel drawn to explore a painful example of a Narc and his wife, check out Russell Brand and Laura Brand’s ‘Sunday Service’ on Russell’s YouTube!
I’ve watched bits of three: ‘Pearls of Wisdom’; Sunday Service 12 and 9, but in each one I feel for Laura, who appears to be a good woman.
I see the light draining from her and when he gives her a little reprieve, e.g., saying, ‘YOU’re a pearl’ and kissing her, she thanks him twice and appears relieved & delighted for that crumb of affection.
During ‘Pearls of Wisdom’, Laura kept mentioning the argument they’d had before the transmission. Every time she did, his mouth or nose twitched and he looked displeased. He appears bored and impatient with her, when she speaks. During Service 09, she was speaking of the issue with time, now she splits between the UK and her life in the USA. His jaw seems to clench, his face hardens – challenge – how dare she speak negatively of her blessed life?
It seems to me, she’s peddling furiously to keep up and join him on his Holy Phase. She’s beautiful, young and supportive, a devoted mum and wife it seems to me. A commenter said she looks mesmerised. I feel this was very observant! Addiction to the narcissist?
In some parts, I get the same vibe as Lynn and Alan Partridge, but subtler of course. She seems so afraid to upset him, yet wants honest discourse and eager to see him light up or smile with approval.
Laura, come to us! HG will help you! 😀 (She doesn’t want to, she wants Golden Period reinstated or crumbs of respite) 😀
Hi Mari,
I wonder what would happen if you posted a comment on the video that said Brand is a narc and HG Tudor can help give Laura clarity.
I wonder if it would be deleted or just ignored.
I often wish that people could find Mr. Tudor too.
Ugh! Apparently I need a grammar lesson!
My first paragraph should read:
I wonder what would happen if you posted a comment on the video that said, “Brand is a narc, and HG Tudor can help give Laura clarity.”
Punctuation really makes a difference.
Dear Leigh, I understood you perfectly.
Re: irksome grammar, I regularly omit the use of capitals when typing informally. It’s a filthy habit, pilfered from a clever pal.
I thought, ‘Good Lord! This cat is wild. How does he live with himself? I, too, must try this debauchery.’ And so it stuck. 😀
LOL! We’re throwing caution to the wind! Screw grammar & punctuation!
Hello Leigh,
I imagine it would be thoroughly ignored! Possibly deleted, yes.
According to ‘Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus’, men are not keen on receiving unsolicited advice, so imagine someone like Russell Brand or his lieutenants reading a postulation that he’s an upper lesser type A narcissist, with sociopathic traits! I’m guessing only Jesus Christ can give Laura clarity at the moment, via the medium of Reverend Russell.
I’d also guess that Laura’s more likely to check comments, but I doubt it’d help her. She seems well invested. Perhaps she thinks, “I’ve got this far, I’m not bailing!”
I wonder if she’s ever considered getting out, but forsees how taxing it might be and how risky it could be, financially & legally? She’ll want to ensure her children are set financially. On t’other hand, she’s probably not badly off herself.
I can’t read her mind, but just imagining where she’s at. She must have some pretty high narcissistic traits, to be with him for as long as she has. The fact he’s in the public eye, a notorious addict and now the legal stuff, plus he’s probably unpleasant a lot of the time, she’s either a total love devotee or she likes the residuals. Can’t gauge whether she’s an empath or a normal, ‘cos I don’t know much of her.
I found the pair somewhat interesting to observe. I assume she’s been converted to Christianity, unless she was born again previously and Brand nicked the idea when the shiz hit the fan. Or maybe the pair of ’em are duping and there’s no real faith. Or are they both kidding themselves and believe they are born again? Hmmm….I suspect the latter. 😀
Hope all is well for you Leigh.
Hi Mari,
Does Laura remind you of Fergie at all? Maybe she’s narcissistic.
I wonder sometimes what will be the trigger for people to look at things in a different way.
I stumbled on to Mr. Tudor’s website. I wasn’t looking for information on narcissism or about how I was treated by my narc husband and narc parents. At the time, I didn’t have any suspicions or thoughts about their behaviors. I didn’t even consider that there was narcissism at play.
I was looking for info about silent treatments. Although, I didn’t even know that’s what it was called. I just Googled, why do they stop talking to me & why don’t they respond to my texts. A coworker had been doing that to me. Anyway, that’s when I found Mr. Tudor and a whole new world was opened for me. It was illuminating.
Although, I don’t even know if saying Brand is a narc would make a difference because Brand himself has said he’s a narcissist and she’s still with him.
Dear Leigh,
I’ve not seen much of Laura in action, but from what I’ve seen, she does not remind me of Fergie. I first saw her around 2020 with RB and at face value, seemed balanced and decent. A twist of incongruence though – why is she with him? It feels weird – what’s amiss? That was before I considered/knew he is a narcissist!
I wonder if a trigger for change might begin with more people speaking out about abuse. I’ve just seen another example: a daughter of Color Me Badd’s Kevin Thornton, speaking about the religious (narcissistic) abuse she and her siblings endured from both parents. He got together with her mother when she was 13 for a kick-off.
I like your account of discovering HG’s work! I’d been viewing a few things and not settling, ‘cos I’d realised my father most likely is one. For some reason I used to fall asleep listening to HG’s vids but I stuck with it and now can listen without doing that! (No offence meant HG, it could be that information was going into my unconscious to be more adequately processed…)
Your last paragraph amused me Leigh 😀
Hi Mari,
This is why I hope Mr. Tudor’s work becomes more mainstream. Its so important that accurate information gets out there.
Rebecca, I can’t find your comment to GP, so I’m posting here. So happy for you to have completed radiation! It was the first post I read this morning and it made my day! Thank you for sharing!!
Hi AV,
Thank you! I am glad you celebrate with me! It is such a huge relief to get done with radiation! I can relax, heal, do PT and get my strength back! Xx
Dear Mr Tudor,
What the hell is happening in Spain as we speak, 2,000 – 3,000 North African invading migrants ?
Nothing on our mainstream media ……. Typical !!!!
Closer to 49 000. It is all over mainstream media.
Dear Mr Tudor,
That was the “very first” report on the “numbers” of the “invasion landing” that I saw, it’s since been upgraded and now worldwide news. However, the news takes a tad longer as there’s more ocean for the pigeons to travel “down under”
Haha
Thank you kindly though
Plus isn’t the case that certain individuals put out nets to catch the pigeons so they can eat them?!
Dear Mr Tudor,
We have very skilled and highly trained Aussie “homing” pigeons here
It’s a wonder they’re not in the Commonwealth Games haha
I thought it was the English swans and seagulls that these inbred degenerate peasants ate.
All the birds are trying to escape Europe and come here, but sadly
they’ve brought bird flu with them.
We’re their last hurrah!
Dear Mr Tudor,
Ceuta, Spain was all planned ! The Moroccan border police actively told them to cross. Who gave the order, I wonder ? 😈 All political !! The deeper you dig, the more sinister.
Fun fact…. the recent $1bn 1,055 kilometer highway Tiznit-Dakhla in Morocco is named after Donald J Trump having thanked King Mohammed VI. It’s all for the greater good though, the FIFA World Cup in 2030.
People died and it caused mass panic and mayhem whilst both govts don’t give a toss !
What say you Mr Tudor?
Dear Mr Tudor,
I have just watched “the best” interrogation of Dr Anthony Fauci from Senator Josh Hawley during a hearing before the Senate Homeland Security and Govt Affairs Committee.
Fauci invoked his Fifth Amendment rights and did not answer one single question.
He was described as a self serving narcissist by Hawley.
Fauci made a lot of money from Covid and his net worth is over $12 mil
Fauci has always been a vile little weasel! Hope he gets his just desserts!
Whilst I’m here, take note of all the underground bunkers, cities or whatever the hell they are, being actively built and stockpiled long term by the high net worth rich apparently driven by global instability and fears regarding future pandemics, nuclear conflict and AI. Interesting how all these data centres need all the water on the planet Hmmmmm ?
Yes, I watched that exchange also.
Dead Mr Tudor,
What are your thoughts on the Fauci hearing ?
Inevitable.
“He was described as a self serving narcissist by Hawley.”
Projection
Hello HG,
Why can a mid-range narc decide to create a smear campaign against his best friend?
While he is still apparently kind with him…
The act of smearing would be linked to the second assertion of control over this friend. The narcissist is unable to assert control directly, therefore complains about this friend´s behaviour to third parties which creates smearing and allows the attainment of control through the second assertion of control. It will also be a method of controlling the third parties by triangulating them with the friend.
Thank you.
I had lost my job because of this.
I’m not entirely sure, but it’s extremely likely…
He was a close friend of my boss.
I love you all, dear members of this forum! I’m reading every single one of your replies, and thank you all so much! I’ll try to reply to everyone as soon as I can. But right now, events are unfolding so quickly that I’m completely focused on writing everything up for HG. I’m currently working on a letter to him.
Dear Mr Tudor,
Ursula von der Leyen (EU) blocked the Save Europe Act
She’s pure evil, she has to go !
What say you Mr Tudor ?
Dear Mr Tudor,
Save Europe Act is on the table ……. wooohoooo
We want one for every western country
Just listened to US Congress Senator Tim Sheehy’s speech he delivered 2 days ago, made more sense than any politician I’ve heard to date, we need more like him !!!
We had a 17 yr old stabbed in the head and back on Sat in Sydney by 3 hooded attackers.
Another 17yr old was ambushed stabbed with machetes, beaten n robbed in Victoria.
Another Victorian 15yr old lad was chased by 3 youths with knives and swords letting out the “war cry “ before stabbing him repeatedly.
Naturally their ethnicity is not made public ….surprise surprise.
We need to cleanse ourselves from these violent degenerate subhuman maniac savages !
What say you Mr Tudor?
Dear Mr Tudor,
Your beautiful country scenery was way more interesting, than Alec Baldwin’s hagged face on your YT video. He’s an 68 year old narc trying desperately to stay relevant. Haha
Notice how all the “criminally rich” leaders of the world are all old and on the downhill spiral. Raging, hormonal, bitter old narcs taking out their vengeance on the rest of the world.
We need young, creative, forward thinking, gifted, energetic, up n coming innovators not these “stale ol farts”. They should retire and be put out to pasture, but narcs never will, they keep going til their last breath, more’s the pity !
What say you Mr Tudor ?
Hello HG,
Have you viewed The Narcissist`s Playbook yet? I watched the early screening, because I was curious about your contribution. It was very good to “see” you in it. It was good exposure for you and your work…unfortunately, I wish that a larger portion of your work had actually been covered or referenced (other than some of your books.)
Honestly, I had a hard time watching (I normally do not subject myself to watching Richard Grannon and Dr. Plagiarizer) and I found it particularly hard to stomach them both delivering the bulk of narcissism information to the movie`s audience. It was especially difficult listening to Dr. Plagiarizer`s highly faulty (despite lifting your term “midrange narcissism”) spectrum of narcissism.
I won`t give spoilers, for those who haven`t seen it, but there is a big reveal part way through. The big reveal then dominates the remainder of the film – which makes one wonder: if that did not occur, what would the rest of the piece have been about?
Oh, yes – Sam Vaknin also brandishes his acting chops.
I wasn`t expecting there to be humour.
On the subject of humour, the film`s representation of “self-aware” narcissists was utterly laughable. It is good that the film gives more weight to the subject of narcissism, however, it is unfortunate that the film`s creator does not have a more thorough education on the subject of narcissism.
Question, HG, will you be taking part in the Ask a Narcissist panel for the film`s launch weekend events?
I have not had opportunity to watch. I was asked to be involved in the panel but only given a week’s notice and I have existing commitments.
Hello HG,
After watching the trailer and a few other short clips about the so-called ‘documentary’ on YouTube, I have mixed feelings about it.
On the one hand, I’m glad that the subject of narcissism is becoming more and more ‘mainstream’ and that information is available to more people without them having to see a therapist or search on random topics to obtain it.
I’m also glad that you, HG, have exposure in the program and that your name and books are highlighted.
On the other hand, I have some negative reservations about the way the program is made and how it portrays narcissism.
I have a problem with the program being called a ‘documentary’. From what I’ve seen, it’s not a documentary.
A documentary is a film that represents true facts and information about a specific subject. It presents the information in an investigative and non-sensationalised account of events. A documentary looks at things as they happen in reality and is based on the real-life experiences of people who were actually involved in the events being investigated. Also, a documentary discusses the subject or events with people who have proven expertise and researched knowledge about the things under investigation.
After watching the trailer and a number of clips, my impression is that the program is made up of a collection of YouTube content creators each talking about the subject in various ways; ways that are not really based on experience or proven expertise. Also, some of the scenes and music in the program look sensationalised and staged in a way that looks like it’s meant to resemble a horror movie.
When I saw that the program is made by film-maker Mark Vicente, it made more sense to me that it looks the way it does. It makes me think Vicente’s main aim is to sensationalise the subject for clicks and views rather than to educate an audience.
I may sound overly negative, however, when I watch something that is described as a ‘documentary,’ I want it to be a ‘documentary’.
There is a fundamental difference between information that is on YouTube videos made for clicks and views and information that is written by researchers and those in various fields of study.
Take for instance Richard Grannon and Dr. Plagiariser. They are on YouTube making videos daily and their main aim is to get clicks and views. They are not held to account in a strict sense in relation to what they say and what they actually know.
If a collection of YouTube content creators are gathered together to make a feature-length film, it doesn’t automatically mean the film is a ‘documentary’.
From a broader perspective, I think the program reflects the dilemma of the ‘bread and circuses’ concept. If a film-maker wants more ‘clicks and views,’ then they need to make a film that grabs attention, and that in turn will mean that the information is dramatised and sensationalised in some way.
When it comes to the subject of discussing narcissism and psychopathy in a way that will make people really understand the topic in a realistic way, I think sensationalising the information is the wrong way to go about it.
The vast majority of real-life circumstances that involve narcissists do not look like horror movies. Instead, they look like normal, banal, everyday life. The narcissists and psychopaths in everyday life are not going to be anywhere near as obvious or ominous as someone following you down a dark alley while there is sinister music playing in the background. This is exactly why it’s so important to understand narcissism as it really is.
Having said all of this, it sounds negative to say that I’m almost glad that you, HG, didn’t have a huge part to play in this program. I don’t mean this in a negative sense though. What I mean is that when it comes to truly understanding narcissism in a real and relevant way, I don’t think this program will really help.
I think you make a number of valid points WN.
I regarded it as important that I have some involvement in the project as it is necessary for my name and work to be associated with narcissism and psychopathy so people have the option to access correct and insightful information. People need to know about me. I also adopt the stance that with instances of people “coming together via the internet” it is important to remain loyal to ones own own and be peripheral with regard to the “chumminess” that often unfolds. I have seen repeatedly how participants become too close and there is invariably fall out, smearing, allegation and counter allegation. We see this between so called “Megxit” creators and it has happened (and is happening again) with those that contribute to work about narcissism. From my position, I prefer to plough my own furrow and let my work speak for itself, however, one cannot exist in a vacuum and therefore one does have to play the marketing game to some degree. What one need not do I become embedded and enmeshed with other creators. I see it happen time and time again and it never ends well. Independence is a glorious thing.
Correct choice. Of course. What’s funny in this “take down” film is that it says very little about narcissism and psychopathy. However you come off well like Morgan Freeman playing God- a voice above them all and above it all, pure authority. My hope is the followers leave Sam now and run to you to get real help and a real solid education. You actually weaponize empaths, this film won’t do anything except maybe encourage law enforcement to do something. Now thats not a bad result…. If it ever happens.
Thank you.
Another issue and I haven’t even seen the film that bugs me as Mark Vicente had FBI help in bringing down the cult. Mark was warned by the FBI that the cult leader was dangerous. Mark says narcisstic injury leads to them coming after you with everything they have. But in my head… this sounds more like psychopathic behavior. You got in front of his goals. You got in the way. And yes, your life is at risk. It confuses me as narcissists can kill but they are more likely to me to smear, Hoover, withdraw, berate etc…. Whereas get in front of a psychopath. The psychopath will eliminate you if able. True?
Hi 1WC
I followed them on Facebook & Instagram. A couple of weeks ago they sent me a direct message and asked me if I wanted to pre order it. I told them that I get all of my information on narcissism directly from HG Tudor and that I was following them to help get the word out. I had seen some trailers and saw a lot of misinformation. The only trailer I saw with Mr. Tudor was about Jeffrey Epstein.
Is it worth buying?
Mr. Tudor,
Are you getting a piece of the sales?
Thank you for your support Leigh. No, I don’t receive any payment.
You’re very welcome, Mr. Tudor.
I saw the trailer which is HG! I was so exited! I am going to pay for the launch! I read an article about it where the director discusses it. The New Yorker. The director hit all the key notes of narcissism. The director discusses one thing that got him outside the film. He doesn’t mention names but it sounded like Sam Vatnim. Mark Vicente challenged him on his proclaimed emptiness inside. Why believe it? And Mark said Sam cried. But Mark questioned his tears… he indicated he thought it was self pity if real at all. I am certain we bloggers will be talking about this but bravo Mark for using HG as first and foremost in the trailer!
What concerned me is that the director is portraying Dr. Plagiarizer as a victim and survivor of narc abuse. We know from Mr. Tudor that she’s an unaware narcissist. Which leads me to wonder, how accurate is the information in this film? I know Mr. Tudor’s piece will be accurate, but I can get that directly from him. The smallest donation was $50. That seems like a lot for information that might not be wholly accurate. I’d rather support Mr. Tudor directly. I know his work is accurate.
Hey Leigh:
I agree. I think it might be basic but with misinformation. For example Mark looks at twins. One is a confessed narcissist who has a great following and does what HG does platform wise: blogs, videos and consults but he is in therapy and believes it has changed him not cured him but helped him. Hmmmm This man has a twin who grew up with him but Mark says that proves it’s not genetic. Mark is correct that plenty of people survive trauma and go on to have empathy and help others. But…. But…. Did mark ever consider that one of the twins got a genetic propensity and the other did not. ? And he contradicts himself and says that he thinks some narcs are “ born this way.” Mark also says they disassociate and can’t get back… whatever that means. And I watched an interview and Mark says he is no expert but he couldn’t even list the 9 criteria. Mark has a curious mind, he is a good listener, but he joined a cult and it definitely traumatized him and he admits that in interviewing the narcs that he was healing from his experience. Not a bad reason to do a film at all. He did a screening at ucla film school with 400 in the field and Mark says it was well received. To me, some of the film will be too basic for those who have followed HG who is the leader in accuracy. Some of the film will irk those who follow HG as it will be misinformation. But then there is me who likes to go deeper- soul deep- and I think narcissism substitutes for human suffering which is intolerable to them. Jesus embraced human suffering.
The phrase is: “For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.” This appears in Luke 14:11 and is echoed in Luke 18:14 (and in some forms as Matthew 23.
When you come to the end, it is only love that you will think about if human with empathy. But to love, I think you have to embrace humanity not reject it.
If a criticism or public exposure can cause injury where you spend years trying to destroy the other… for example…. Or go to war…. Another example…. Then something is missing. For me, it’s humanity. Embracing our common bond, love. Empathy is being able to put yourself in another’s shoes. Narcs cannot do that. Why? I think they ran from suffering and cannot tolerate it. Whereas those who embrace humanity suffering grow stronger, wiser, more loving and compassionate and in my belief system walking in the footsteps of Christ. Mark refers to all the darkness and he says he spoke to one confessed narcissist psychopath who really scared him. He spoke of how strategic in mind they are. Sounded like HG but he didn’t name names. Again that makes me wonder? The “ darkness” . What is dark? Sounds empty, cold, no bottom to it. See I see the emplacement of human suffering as light, as love, as contained… humanity, love, empathy. Someone might start a war for say a good reason but there would be thought about it, the families, the costs to society etc…. Whereas a psychopath for example would want what they want- the end goal. It sounds odd but my mind goes to human design, the wonder, the whys, the range as I do see a spectrum and a commonality as humans. I would represent and have a narc who has suffered an injustice. Why? I know this person is a confidence man ( con man), but in the big picture, social injustice such as racism has no place in this world. One man, narc or not, is representative of all or mankind or humanity. On the flip side, I believe in removing those who violate our laws or norms as well. That is what interests me… even in mimicking… it’s a human trying to be human . I’m just wish the film was directed by HG. But I prefer- ordered. Some of the interviews will annoy me. Dr Plagerizer a bit but Sam more as Sam thinks he is a cult leader and I will never be tricked into his gobbly gook of theories no matter how many people he cites. I find him knowledgeable but so arrogant and many of his ideas or positions do not make sense. Sam has this cold therapy theory which to me makes no sense. I have discussed my questions on when narcissism begins and why and HG theory makes sense whereas Sam seems to be able to read an entrants brain and “ knows.” At least Dr P shares her personal experiences that lead to her field of choice ( or unaware narcissism) most go quiet. Maybe they cannot recall. My ex said it was weird that much of his childhood he has zero memory. I said look at your mother today. That was your mother then. Anyway… I will see the film;)
I look forward to everyone’s thoughts!!!! Yours too Leigh! My best!
Hi Contagious,
One upside I see is that it’s getting Mr. Tudor’s name out there. The more people that see the movie will increase the likelihood of more people wanting to find Mr. Tudor’s work. Mr. Tudor is the authority on narcissism. He should be front and center. I’m tired of Dr. Plagiarizer showing up in my feed.
Hello HG:
While I look forward to this film, it bothers me that the director was in a cult. Doug was raised in it but I believe that if you just join something must be missing in you to join a weird cult like he did. So I already suspect he will be open to any theory anyone tells him as he follows “ authority.” I question, challenge and rebel against authority. So his film as the authority… I question what he will say be “ right.” Mark says narcs get pleasure out of others pain. Which is partly true but not all are sadists. For example. They want control but I don’t think all get off on inflicting pain. Also the reason they call it playbook is that narcs are the easiest to survive as chaos goes as narcs are so predictable. So again I feel that the film will be good but will mix up things. In fact … mark says he learned from you and Dr Ramini. But you aren’t the same. So I am excited but there seems to be a risk of misinformation. I haven’t seen it yet but this is my take. But great to see you take the lead in the trailer!
Hello HG:
Another point related to my life. I paid for a consult as an old friend of my ex sent me a video made in July 2026 of a song my ex made had a photo that looks just like me but it is entitled Black Widow about a woman who basically eats men alive and as he sings “ she don’t care.” But he often sings in the lyrics “ you remember me, yes you do!!!!” So I had a knee jerk reaction of fear as he is smearing me a year plus after our divorce. Last year, I watched and he had songs about me about” bludgeoning me in my bed.” And I thought “ am I safe?” He is escalating. So I asked Grok and wrote all my concerns. Grok said he is a covert narcissist no matter what I wrote or even disagreed with the term and the fact he had a psychotic break, has hit me once, has threatened death and contacted my clients, staff, friends and family that…. grok said nonstop that “ he is dangerous.” I said to Grok but he is poor, unemployed, in council housing, 6000 miles away, I have a gun and a 25 year old son and marine living with me until next year. Grok discounted it all saying if my marine moves out, he is obsessed and could spy, save up, show up and harm me. Tell police. He also recommended I tell my friend not to tell me. About his songs. I am not subscribed and blocked him on all social media. But I feel the harder I run, the more he escalates. I was weak and wrote him on what’s app: “ get a dog. I wish I had not. One thing I know for certain is if someone wants to harm you, there is little you can do but keep your eye out, have a plan and use legal when you can. Look forward to the consult. I don’t want to dwell on it as I moved forward, but I don’t want to ignore a threat. Btw will he ever move on? He needs a new IPSS! When?
One thing is you said he is a middle lesser but I question he has co- morbidities. Something I think the film might miss. Grok did not. Grok just looks at behavior and said he felt he was a covert narc but his behavior alone shows danger that to means I should make a report with police, tell family and friends. Idk. He is poor and 6000 miles away. I just want to forget him but I don’t want to be stupid. Many of your videos and advice say they don’t feel and move on to the next IPPS. My ex is weird. Norman Bates. He does not. Thanks.
Do not rely on AI for answers about these matters. I have tested several AI platforms on my work and they routinely get it wrong.
Hi Leigh,
“I followed them on Facebook & Instagram.”
The only reason I knew about this documentary was because HG shared promotional shorts from it on YT and IG. I follow them on IG as well. I wanted to see it because I like to support projects that HG is involved in and always wish for his work to gain broader exposure.
“…they sent me a direct message and asked me if I wanted to pre order it. I told them that I get all of my information on narcissism directly from HG Tudor …”
I was sent a direct message as well. In turn, I asked why they do not have HG Tudor listed in the “experts” section of the film`s website? I did not receive a response back.
“Is it worth buying?”
I`ll share some of my further observations and you can make up your own mind.
I thought it was well shot, the camera work, the lighting, the editing, etc. – it was well put together (creatively speaking).
I found the choice of visuals that were paired with HG`s voice interesting and indicative of some persisting views on him.
I think it was a good thing that hey involved a Hollywood celebrity (Evan Rachel Wood), as that generally garners wider interest and exposure.
I appreciated that they included a male victim of narcissistic abuse, Doug Buggle, who shared his experience with a female narcissist. I found his story compelling and agree with his opinion that men have a harder time admitting that they were abused.
Here are some of my criticisms…
(And I did watch it a second time over the weekend, so that I could take a couple notes to share here.)
Dr. Plagiarizer`s spectrum of narcissism is completely misleading – and actually dangerous in some ways. If this has been brought up before on the blog, sorry for the redundancy – it is actually the first time that I have intentionally listened to her and her ideas. She describes “low range narcissists” as `social media narcissists` who are vain and superficial – basically, what she is describing are somatic narcissists – but she says that they are not dangerous. This minimizes the damage and harm that we know that all narcissists are capable of. It is also inaccurate, as this only identifies one cadre of narcissist.
I forgot what she said about midrange narcs – as I sort of tuned her out in my annoyance that she lifted that term from HG. She described “high range narcissists” as “malignant narcissists” and the most dangerous. Which is not accurate, although they can be very dangerous, we also know that they have a near air-tight facade and can be prosocial.
An additional point that irked me was made by a forensic psychiatrist, Bandy X Lee MD, who stated that (I am paraphrasing) that 25 years ago, most narcissists were simply involved in criminality and or were jailed and that they didn`t have access to `high level leadership` positions such as they do now, (i.e. CEOs of companies, leaders of countries etc.) Which is a load of hooey! It doesn’t take much study of narcissism and history to see how inaccurate a statement that is. I would agree that it is more recent that the leaders of companies etc., have more influence and power over world events and politics (Musk, for example). But to suggest that, historically, leadership roles were mainly filled by people other than narcissists is utterly ignorant.
Don’t get me started on the two “self-professed”, “aware” narcissists that they had on. They may actually be mid-range narcs (who have received a diagnosis of NPD) who claim awareness, but they are clearly not Greaters.
Also, it is not a criticism of the film but I am just annoyed that the director, Mark Vicente (after having been part of a cult and part of the community of survivors of narc abuse) is, unbeknownst to him, ensnared in another narcissistic dynamic with an unaware narcissist: Dr. Plagiarizer. He is a secondary source and described her as a “dear friend” in some of the livestreaming.
Finally – and this may make it worth watching – as I mentioned, there is a big reveal concerning one of the experts in the field of narcissism…someone is knocked off their rather high pedestal. Big time.
HG, I am sorry to hear that you were not able to take part in the panel – that definitely would have been worth viewing this project for. And I am sorry to hear that you are not being compensated financially for your contribution. I do hope it results in more people finding your work. I did notice that immediately following the launch of the early screening that hits on your “About” section and the “Knowledge Vault” were up on the blog.
Leigh – by buying it, you would not gain anything extra or certainly anything more accurate on narcissism than we have learned from HG. In fact, you would gain irritation at some of the inaccuracies and annoyance of the lack of coverage on HG’s work.
The only real “gain” would be access to some inside *dirt* in the field of narcissism and narcissistic abuse – before it becomes known in the mainstream.
Hi Whocares and Leigh:
The only one who comes across well is HG. He comes off as the authority and narrator. I did not know about the crimes outside of him being imprisoned by Sam Vatnim but I have never really followed or liked him and posted opposition on his blog. I did know he fell out with Richard, I didn’t know why.
He called empaths “ covert narcs” and at one point “ psychopaths.” I could see he didn’t like HG.
He called Jesus a narcissist. There is nothing in his teachings to suggest this. But of course that ended my respect for him.
Always felt he had mommy issues. Hates women. And unlike HG, he has no clear messages as he spends to much time citing to others work and I always felt if I read it, well would it really say that?
Finally I always wondered why he lived in certain countries… like the Tate brothers, suspected and now we know.
But sadly will he ever face justice? Marilyn Manson, Jeffrey Epstein clients, Andrew Tate…? And will he lose followers? I think so.
On a personal note, I had a therapist once when 25? My boyfriend wanted to get engaged but I was hung up on my law school boyfriend that ended because he didn’t want children. I thought: why not? Not sure where my ex boyfriend of 2 years found him but in therapy, this therapist started rubbing my shoulders and told me to relax as I needed to trust men. He would also tell me that there was nothing wrong with me and we should run away together. He was a Harvard grad. I saw the diploma. Once I came by and he was wearing a t-shirt with a cat on it that said “ I want a little pussy.” And he had lights and a cake and a sign that said “ Happy Birthday Jesus.” Which I think he did to impress me due to my love of Jesus ( always). Why did I not report him? It was brief and I saw him as this weird hippy. I ended up giving him advice about his son etc…I briefly mothered him who was twice my age and left. Of course there was nothing physical. Yuck! His last words I remember… called me a defender of people. I learned some from him but we met maybe 3-5 times as I was not buying into it and found him pathetic and broken. I pitied him. However, I learned later that he lost his license for sleeping with his clients. Not sure if he went to jail. But if I was different, and vulnerable, as I was young, I could have ended up like Sam’s victims.
As to Sam, by confessing to be a narcissist and talking about the beauty in destroying another human etc…. If he ends up in court, he is done. Toast. He will be some man’s bitch in prison. For someone who proclaims to have an IQ of 190 and one of 8 in the world, pretty stupid of him… reckless and arrogant. Another one bites the dust. Where’s Caesar’s Rome by the way? Hitler? What’s that saying the bigger you are, the harder you fall….
Plus, I learned next to nothing about narcissism. This was a take down film at best that Mark did because he helped take down a cult.
I was disappointed really.
I knew I would stick with HG to be enlightened but I had no idea how “ bad” his “ competitors” were until watching this film. Shame HG hadn’t done a film- maybe yet? However I think it needs to be a series if HG were to do one, The best part of the film was the duped husband as I often find that men don’t voice their abuse… the way women do….” Cultural” as he said. Sad but true. And half of narcissists are women… another stat not mentioned in the film. Another lost opportunity to educate.
As to the neuroscientist… was this field around in history? Ummmmm I agree with you who cares… why did they even bother putting her in this disappointing film. ?
To sum it up, it’s a take down film not an educational film on narcissism. It’s low in correct information and a waste of 19.99$
Total disappointment. And I think someone who knows little about narcissism is going to walk away thinking they are all rapists and con men. There is no nuance to this film and Dr. P doesn’t help at all.
That’s my take on it.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, Contagious! I won’t be purchasing it now.
I will, however, continue to follow them on IG & FB and continue to like their posts. I think any way we can help to get Mr. Tutor’s name out there, is a plus.
Hi HG, Leigh, WhoCares and Contagious,
I saw the video come up on my fed and it had HG on the commercial for the film. I forwarded it to HG and asked if he was a paet of the project, or if they were using his voice without permission.
I saw more commercials for it and looked into it, by following them and I got a message from them wanting me to donate to watch theit film. I didn’t donate and I didn’t watch it. I am not comfortable getting more involved in a project I don’t know much about. And now, that I find out they are not paying HG, I find that highly suspect to what their intentions are for not paying HG, but still using his voice.
Dear HG, What is going on with this film? Xx
I agreed to be involved as I saw it as important to share my insight and for my name to be seen alongside other commentators in the field of narcissism. I was not offered, nor did I ask for financial reward as I recognised that the pay-off for a few hours of my time in being interviewed would be publicity.
Thank you, HG for clearing that up! Xx The documentary I saw on EVAN RACHEL WOOD and her relationship with Marilyn Manson was a great example of narcissism, from what I heard about the Narcissist Handbook, on here, it missed the purpose of them film and gave a lot of misleading and incorrect information. HG, I believe you could make a better film and one that would include accurate info and not lose its points of the film. I hope you do a film and show them how it is done correctly! I hope you do. Xx
Dear HG,
The commercials for the film made it feel thrown together and misjointed to me. I really don’t care to hear Sam, from what I heard about him, he is no one I care to hear from about anything. Your work has all the infornation I need and want, HG. I really hope you make your own film and show them how it is done right. Xx
Dear HG,
I am sorry, I called it Narcissist Handbook, I meant Playbook. 🫣🙄xx
Dear HG,
I did watch, for a brief time, a video of Sam and I wasn’t impressed with what he had to said and how he said it. He really thinks his work is above everyone else’s and that it is for the more academic type. Well, he insulted a lot of potential viewers of his work, not a very bright idea. Plus, I would like to add that he could bore the paint off a Cadillac. Xx
Indeed and amusingly he criticises those who don’t have psychological qualifications but as has been exposed neither does he!
Dear HG,
The fact that Sam was exposed for not having any academic qualifications on narcissism, proves he is a hypocrite and that is another red flag of narcissism. That flag is clearly flapping in the wind for us, your viewers, to plainly see his behaviors. Thank you for the narc sight and knowledge HG! Xx
Lol, Rebecca! I thought the same thing! Whose this guy using Mr. Tudor’s name & voice to make money? I’m a tattle tell and I ran right to Mr. Tudor to tell on this guy.
I’m hoping this will be good publicity for Mr. Tudor. Social media is flooded with misinformation on narcissism.
😄😄Leigh,
I was more like, WTF? Nah, they are not using HG’s voice without permission?! I did go right to HG and shared it right away! I was almost jumping up and down about it…..nah, nope not happening! 😄😄xx
I am glad to know that I can put my sword away and calm down. 😄xx
Rebecca,
“Sam was exposed for not having any academic qualifications on narcissism”
Richard Grannon also has no credentials (calls himself a psychologist in the film) either…but the filmmakers seem completely enamoured with him.
Hi WhoCares,
Isn’t it funny how narcs are such hypocrites, and how some people go gaga over them? I watched that video of Sam, for about 5 minutes…less I risk a deep coma….and he reminded me of an actor in a horror movie called, 30 DARK NIGHTS, it was a vampire horror movie and the lead vampire looks a lot like Sam in that movie. I think it is pretty fitting, don’t you? I have seen the actor in more movies, I think he is Britsh. His name escapes me right now, but he does remind me of him. Xx
WhoCares,
Danny Houston,was the actors name and the movie was out in 2007, vampire horror movie called, 30 DAYS OF NIGHT. I had to look it up. Xx
Hi 1WC,
I hadn’t heard of Richard Grannon. I had to look him up. He’s very good looking. I can see why they were enamored by him.
My curiosity is really getting the best of me right now. Lol! I really want to know the big reveal, lol! No pressure though! 😁😁😁
Leigh,
Re: Richard Grannon
“He’s very good looking. I can see why they were enamored by him.”
Ugh…I don’t know what to say. He is easier on the eyes than Sam…I will give you that.
Rebecca,
I have seen that movie. I don’t think Sam compares to Danny Huston’s acting chops…. I can’t get past Vaknin’s goofy laugh and something I witnessed in the documentary.
The eyebrows vaguely match though.
Hi WhoCares,
Dan definitely is a better actor and without the fake teeth and contacts, they could be brothers….the vampire character, he played in the movie, was a reference to Sam’s behaviors, though out of the vampire make up, in my opinion, they do favor each other…the hair, the eyebrows, he usually plays villians….Dan reminds me of Sam now that I saw that video. Xx
Hi 1WC,
WordPress is screwing with us again! I got your email but its not showing up on the blog. So bizarre!
I learned about the Narcissist’s Playbook because his post about Jeffrey Epstein showed up on my FB feed. In the post, he was using Mr. Tudor’s name and asking for money. I immediately sent Mr. Tudor an email and he explained he was part of the project. That’s when I followed him on FB & IG.
Hining at a big reveal definitely has me intrigued but the problem I’m having is the $50 price tag.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts though. It was a thorough analysis and I really appreciate it.
Hi Leigh,
I have replied to everyone’s comments to me, but I don’t see them on the blog. Xx
Hi Rebecca!
I still have my fingers & toes crossed for you! Any updates?
I think WordPress likes screwing with us, lol! I lose comments left and right!
Hi Leigh,
Thank you and yes! I finished the IMRT radiation yesterdsy! I rang the bell! Xx
I have physical therapy head of me and more doctor appts, and more healing time ahead of me too, but the chemical and harsh treatments are done. I am relived I made it! Xx
Hi Rebecca!
Yay! I’m so happy to hear this fantastic news! 🔔🔔🔔🔔
I agree. Now that you’re done with the harsh treatments, you can concentrate on healing!
Hi Rebecca,
“I have physical therapy head of me and more doctor appts, and more healing time ahead of me too, but the chemical and harsh treatments are done”
I am glad to hear that the intense treatments are behind you. Sending healing vibes your way. 🩷🩷 🩷
Hi WhoCares and Leigh,
Thank you both for your kind words and encouragement! I am over the moon with getting done with chemo and radiation! It is a huge weight off my shoulders! Xx
Leigh,
I just just read about your mother.
My condolences.
Dear Rebecca,
Your journey is such an inspiring healing process to others, even though you may not think so. You have come so far. I truly admire your courage and strength lovely.
Stay positive and keep those doctors and specialists on their toes.
💕
Dear Bubbles,
Thank you, but I don’t feel like an inspiration. I feel grateful that treatments have advanced and more people can survive the treatments. I am glad my story uplifts you. Xx
How are you and Mr. Bubbles doing?,How is the situation with your son? Any improvements? I hope you are doing well. Xx
Hi WN,
Thank you for saying to be kind with myself. I really needed to hear that. I keep wondering if there’s something wrong with me because she’s my mother and I should be sadder. Your made me realize I shouldn’t be so hard on myself. Thank you.
You’re very welcome, Leigh.
You are truly the bravest of all warriors! I see victory! Bravo and I put you in my prayers ( my thing). X
Thank you Contagious! Xx
I thought of you, as I waited a while for my treatment in the waiting room one day. I had enough time to hear two treatment stories from two different ladies. They sat next to me and told me their whole cancer story. I listened to them and felt bad for what they went through. One lady was 85 and doing chemo and radiation the same day! She had a different cancer than me. 85 and going through that double treatment the same day! Her daughter was with her and I felt her pain for her mother. She talked to me about her fear for her mother. She was in her late 60s, a time for retirement and relaxing, not worrying about this….they both were going through so much….I felt so crushed and sad for them and I realized my situation isn’t as bad as theirs.
There was another lady who told me she wenr through two years of chemo! Two years! I was shocked! How did she survive it?! Two years! I had difficulty with a few months of it!
I sat there, waiting my turn, and these people opened up to me like a flower in the sun, and all I did was smile and say hi to them.
Contagious, it reminded me of how people open up to you. This happens to me anytime I am around some people, even when I am minding my own business and haven’t said a word to them.
Hi Contagious,
I responded to you, but I do not know if it went through or not. Xx
Rebecca,
I’m so happy to see you active on the blog again! I know it means you’re feeling better and I’m so pleased about that!
Its great to have you back!
Thanks Leigh! Xx
Yes, I am feeling better and hope to join in on more comments! Xx
You and Mari were talking about Russell Brand and his current victim. He reminds me so much of one of my MLSNarc stepdaughter’s ex-boyfriends…..the hair, the attitude, the narcissism….he even has dentures, though he didn’t shop at the same dentist as Katie Price did. His aren’t horse size. He is around the same age too. For me, being around him felt like the very air had slime in it. It was very unpleasant and my facial expressions kept reading like I smelled something foul.
The first time I met him, it was over lunch with my stepdaughter. He didn’t have a job. He knew we were meeting at a restaurant and he expected me to pay for his lunch!
I just met him and he was a grown-a## man in his 40s! Yeah, nah! That didn’t happen….I even smiled and laughed, and didn’t pay for either one of them. I paid for my lunch and saw his behaviors for what they were….RED FLAGS…. and he kept showing me, over their short relationship, what a narcissist he was. He showed a lot of Middle Lesser Somatic behaviors to me and I used to see him at work sometimes. He was shopping for supplies for a job he was doing temporarily, no doubt. He would see me, make eye contact and smirk. I would glare at him because I couldn’t even stand the sight of him! He would make my skin crawl! Yuck! He looked so grimey and oily, like a dirty mop. 🤢🤮 How could anyone stand for him to touch them? 🤮🤮
Anyway, Russell gives me the same vibes, gross and dirty. Xx
Hi Rebecca,
Some of the comments today are so funny! This one had me dying, “tt was very unpleasant and my facial expressions kept reading like I smelled something foul.”
I agree, Brand is gross and I fail to see the attraction at all. He’s unkempt and I’m sure that beard smells!
How is your step daughter and step granddaughter doing? Do you still have the step granddaughter from time to time. I always think of you as her intervener. You get to show her empathy in action.
Hi Leigh,
😄I agree, Brand’s beard looks like it would smell bad.
My stepdaughter is being her usual MLSNarc self, no job and mooching on her next victim. She has wormed her way into some older woman’s house she met in a bar. Thankfully she doesn’t have custody of her daughter and she doesn’t live with her. I haven’t seen her much, due to my chemo treatments and recovering currently from radiation, and now a recent fall over my dog. I plan on seeing her again, as soon as I recover from my shoulder and chest pain from my fall. I fell backawards, because i was backing up in the kitchen, making coffee for myself and I tripped over my dog behind me. I caught myself with my arms and elbows.. I didn’t know I had pulled my arm ligements and muscles until 2 days later when my shoulder, chest and arm flared up. I hate the chemo side effects that I am still dealing with and the physical theraptist I am currently seeing, told me to get x-rays because I could have really hurt myself. My joints are naturally very flexible, I can touch my thumb to my wrist, turn my foot backwards etc, so she said, I can easily dislocate my bones now because my muscles are weak from treatments and limitations from surgery because of the healing process taking so long from treatments and surgeries.
The pain has let up, so it is healing and I had my arms looked at by the PT, so I think I got lucky….no x rays needed now, if I was still in real pain, I would get x rays. Now, I will be more mindful of where my dog is around me. He likes to be my shadow and I need to be more aware of where he is around me.
When I have more energy and more myself,I will have her over more, right now I need more healing time. I am not used to this and don’t like this part of it all. I have been a very healthy person, very active and capable person and I determined to get back there. I am able to work out, been working out during all of the treatments, except for the days I couldn’t do to fresh chemo infusion….I have to add weighs later, when I am more healed. It is a slow process and I am the most impatient person with myself, but everyone tells me I am doing so well and taking it like a champ. I feel annoyed, tired, pissed off with being sick and tired, of having to fight to work out daily….but, I won’t quit because I am too damn stubborn to quit and too damn pissed off! Xx
Sorry about the long comment, HG thanks for moderating! Xx
Hi Leigh,
I wanted to add that my stepdaughter’s boyfriend, at the time, was only a few years younger than me and wanting me to pay for his lunch! A grown man….nah, not today! Xx
Oh my gosh, Rebecca! You have so much going on. Those furry friends are constantly getting under foot! The same thing happens with my kitty cats! I’m glad to hear that you’re feeling a little bit better from the fall.
That’s awesome that you’re still going to the gym! You’re going to be back to yourself in no time!
Your step daughter’s ex sounds like a real winner! Not! How embarrassing that a grown man can’t pay for his own lunch.
Hi Leigh,
My regular doctor wants me to have an x ray done, she doesn’t like that I am still hurting from a fall from the previous weekend. I am waiting for her to get my portal message.
I don’t go to the gym, I work out outside, walking, hiking and when it is 98 degrees and humid, I use a side rocking device that simulates a skiing motion, it is low impact and easy on my joints. I am glad I bought it. I am now up to 20 minutes on it, though I have to be mindful of my arm movements right now. I took a break because of the pain, but I hope to start again soon. Slow and steady. Xx
Yeah, I wasn’t impressed with her boyfriend at all, and my opinion was warranted because his behaviors didn’t improve. Xx
Hi Rebecca,
Ugh! Hopefully its just a sprain and you’re feeling better soon.
Ohhhh! I just assumed you went to the gym. Walking & hiking is great exercise! I love walking. I try to go every day too. I’m not a fan of the humidity either! Some days I push through it and some days I say, no thank you, lol!
Hi Leigh,
My shoulder, arm, chest and ribs are feeling better today, thanks! I woke up and didn’t need to take an advil! Yay!
Yeah, I don’t want to go to a gym right now, too crowded and I prefer my exercise outside in nature. When the humidity is high, and you can boil an egg on the sidewalk, I call that a nope for me too! 😄xx
Yay! I’m glar to hear you’re feeling better, Rebecca.
Thank you Leigh, and my hair has started to grow again. It is now in its Mr. Spock stage! Xx
Yay! I’m so happy to hear your hair is growing back! Are you going to keep it short or are you going to grow it long?
Hi Leigh,
I want my hair to grow long again, I don’t like short hair on me because my narc mother would cut my hair really short to punish me. She lost her hair due to betablocker drug and she critisized my hair as a child and would frequently cut it really short when I was a kid. She often called my hair a mop and made me feel bad about my hair.
I am definitely growing it long, I prefer long hair on me. I feel the worse of all of these cancer treatment side effects was the hair loss, it caused the most mental harm to me, though I didn’t lose all of my hair because I used cold caps during chemo. It was still the most traumatic for me because of the previous hair abuse from my narc mother. It left a mental wound that got triggered when I lost my long hair. I had a panic attack and didn’t react well to my hair falling out. I am glad my narc husband was there when it happened because, shamefully, I started hurting myself and he restrained me and stopped me. It really upset me and I lost it . I am not proud of it. I had a mental break and I am glad I wasn’t alone. I am glad my narc husband thought well enough of me to stop me. I went through hell, it was not easy and I think some people had more, longer treatments than me….but, I am not unbreakable and these treatments were rough. I am still fighting and I feel I faced death and walked pass it. Xx
” …I am not unbreakable and these treatments were rough. I am still fighting and I feel I faced death and walked pass it. Xx”
Rebecca:
💜💜💜
Rebecca,
I’m so sorry to hear this. I’m sorry your mother did those things to you. I’m glad your narc husband was there for you. Sometimes narcs are useful too.
We never know what’s going to bring us back to those traumatic moments from our childhood.
With my mom, she used my weight against me. She was always obese. I don’t have that issue. I could lose 10 pounds and I’m softer than I care to admit, but I don’t battle with my weight like she did. She always made it a point to ask me if I’ve gained weight. They had to tear us down & get a reaction so they can validate themselves.
I wanted to make sure I responded to this comment. But I can’t respond to the others right now. My narc mother passed early this morning. I’ve been running all day.
I don’t know of its going to last, but the anger & resentment towards my mom has seemed to dissipated for now. A friend told me once that they’re healed in the after life. I hope that’s true.
Hi Rebecca,
What a difficult story you shared about your mother and what she did to you. That’s awful. I really hope you make a full recovery and find the strength to get through all of this.
Four years ago, my mother was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer. It completely devastated all of us because it came completely out of the blue — she had no harmful habits and had never been seriously ill.
My father is a narcissist too, and he was incredibly supportive of my mother throughout her treatment. She initially went through several rounds of chemotherapy, and she is now receiving targeted therapy.
Yes, narcissists can sometimes be very helpful. I would even say that, in some situations, they can be more effective at providing support than non-narcissistic people, because they can sometimes demonstrate remarkable resilience during extremely stressful situations.
I truly hope your treatment goes as well as possible. And it gives me so much hope to think that cancer is not necessarily a death sentence in the 21st century — my mother is living proof of that, even with stage 4 (terminal) cancer.
Sending you lots of strength.
Dear Leight
I’m so sorry, Leigh . My condolences to you. I can only imagine how complicated and difficult this must be for you, especially given everything you went through with your mother. I hope you can be gentle with yourself and allow yourself to feel whatever comes up.
Hi WhoCares,
What I meant by that line….I am not unbreakable, I faced death and walked pass it….” I feel I faced death, and thought, I am not dealing with, not bargaining with you, I am going to keep moving forward, like you are not an option…no quitting for me, too stubborn for that shit. Xx
I locked heads with the oncologist who looked over my chemo and wants to start on a chemo pill called Tamoxifen, it is a estrogen blockers and gives chemo like side effects, amongst a whole lot of health risks that it gives too. I won’t be able to function, or go back to work safely on my job, so I told her, No.
She still wants to give me the pill. She didn’t take no for an answer, she wants to see me again on the 24th to discuss it further and to do blood work to get my new pathology report.
I talked to HG about her and I wrote up an essay about my NO answer and why I said NO the first time and will still say NO again.
I have decided, with HG’s help, that if she pushes it further, than I will ask for anorher oncologist to be assigned to me. I have a Social Worker Advocate I have on my phone auto dial. I am not afraid to call her and make another formal complaint against her again. I am NOT GOING TO BE BULLIED OVER MY OWN CARE! I SAID, NO, I MEAN NO! xx
Hi Leigh,
Thank you for your understanding and yes, my mother was overweight and was critical of my body too. She would make references to my size, height and weight and I developed anorexia as a teen and still fit with body dismorphia…sorry for the misspelling….I don’t see myself as the small size I am. I have to take a pic to see my size, but I still feel bigger than I am and I think I am bigger than I am. I am size 4 and 5’1/4″. I still feel I am fat and I have an inner critic about my body, that took over when my narc mother died. I understand how you feel about yourself because I deal with it too.
I am sorry your narc mother passed, I know you might have some mixed feelings about her now. Xx
All the planning you have to do will keep your mind busy from feeling all your emotions right now. That is a good thing because you need your LT to get through all the planning you have ahead of you. I did all the funeral planning for my mother’s funeral because Dad was too lost when she died. I got his approval for all the decisions, but I had to step in and help him out. I was happy to help him because I wanted to relieve him of the burden while he was hurting so badly.
How is the rest of your family handling the news? How is your narc daughter handling it vrs your empath daughter? It is striking to see the difference in their reactions?
My brother acted like it bounced off him. We went down home to bury her in the family cemetery, my family owns the funeral home and cemetery, and my brother acted like it was a vacation time. He visited family like he was on vacation. He skipped out on helping with the planning and when all the decisions were made, he shows up all pissed off that he didn’t have a say on her gravestone marker etc. I got so pissed off at him with his carefree attitude and then his hurt facade…..I wanted to punch him in his face! Instead I told him, ” Too bad, his name, you missed the boat, should have been here when it docked, you asshole!”
Yeah, I called him an asshole in front of my cousin, who owns the funeral home because his carefree attitude hurt my Dad’s feelings and that pissed me off! Here my Dad was crying and my brother walks in without a care in the world….like our mother didn’t die! It blew my mind! WTF? I was so mad at him! I didn’t understand how he was carefree and acted like he was on vacation! He acted like a Primary Psychopath here, in that time period. Why he confuses me so much. Was that him without the mask? Was he in denial? Is he a sociopath, or a psychopath?? Xx
Leigh,
I’m not sure how exactly to respond to the news of your mother’s passing. I will say, I hope you are okay. Hugs
Hi Josephina,
Thank you and I hope your mother continues to do well! With all the advanced treatmemts they have now, cancer isn’t always a death sentence now. My aunt has had lung cancer 4/5 times now, still smokes, and keeps beating it back. Xx
My narc husband has surprised me with his support during my treatments and still surprising me now, during my PT appts and recovery time. I didn’t expect him to be here for me, but he has taken me to every appt and been there for every treatment…I mean he complains some, but no one is perfect…He must find value in me, otherwise he would be gone. I find myself wondering why he stuck around, through all these treatments? He has even been really nice at times….”two halves of the same coin, ” my Dad used to say to me, “Everyone has two sides to them, makes the whole person.” My Dad was a smart man and he was right, except not all coins are the same. Some are silver, some are nickle and some are copper, some are even gold. Which one you get, is like a flip of a coin. Xx
Rebecca,
“I talked to HG about her and I wrote up an essay about my NO answer..”
Do you feel your oncologist is a narcissist?
“I am not afraid to call her and make another formal complaint against her again. I am NOT GOING TO BE BULLIED OVER MY OWN CARE! I SAID, NO, I MEAN NO! xx”
Good for you.
Sorry about the passing of your mother, Leigh. Sending my condolences.
Hi Rebecca, AV & Josephina,
I’m going to respond to all of you at once.
I’m quite intrigued by what’s happening to me right now. I’m not heartbroken. I knew that wouldn’t happen. But I didn’t expect to feel at peace with my mother. Its quite liberating. I actually forgive her. The resentment & anger just vanished.
Rebecca,
Thankfully I had her funeral planned already. We planned it years ago. But I did have to clean out her room at the nursing home, dig through photo albums and find an outfit.
I’m ok, AV. Sorry for your loss just doesn’t quite fit. You know me too well. Its not really a loss. It just is.
My daughters’ behaviors are interesting. If someone doesn’t understand about narcissism, they might think my narc daughter is an empath. She has a strong overwhelming angel trait and keeps asking me if I’m ok and if I need help. More than likely, she’ll arrange the pictures for me on the board. She told me she keeps seeing butterflies. On the face of it, that seems sweet. But my attention is off her and by helping with the photos & talking about the butterflies, she shifted the attention back on her.
My empath daughter asked me if I was ok and just listens when I talk. She helped with the outfit too.
My children don’t know my mom. She had Agoraphobia and barely went outside. She barely left the nursing home and she didn’t want my children to visit her. My kids were very young when she went into the nursing home & they barely remember her.
My uncle (my mom’s brother) is useless. His wife has been sending me some pictures from my mom’s childhood.
I have two cousins that I speak with and that’s it for family.
My brother thats still alive (that I know of) is MIA and doesn’t even know about my mom.
Josephina, I thought you might find the info on my daughters & my mom’s agoraphobia interesting. My mom also had schizoaffective disorder.
Hi 1WhoCares,
I think she might be a narcissist, but I have only seen her 4 times and for about 45 minutes at a time.
I know she doesn’t take No for an answer. She told me that she didn’t have time to figure out my numbers for my case and then chastised me about not being considerate of other patients waiting their turn. I thought she was rude to say this, like I was a child. She showed very dismissive behavior there. I asked for my own medical information, which by law she is required to give me. I asked for this DURING MY CONSULTATION WITH HER, MY TIME WITH HER. I waited 45 minutes to see her, she was late seeing me. I waited my turn, the patient behind me can wait their turn too. I asked for my time and the answers I wanted. She said, she didn’t have time to give me the answer. She did. I asked my other doctor on my care team. It took her 5 MINUTES to put in the info to the PREDICT BREAST TEST. 5 minutes. I had my answer. I called my Social Worker Advocate from the hospital and made a formal complaint against her.
When I got upset with her for dismissing my request for health information, during our last meeting, she tried getting closer to me and tried to hold my hand. I pulled my hand away, I didn’t want her touching me. She dismissed me, then chastised me….and then when that upset me, she tried controlling me with a fake gesture of concern by trying to hold my hand….no, she doesn’t get to treat me like that and then play nice. Yes, I have my thoughts about her being a narcissist, why I asked HG for help with dealing with her….. I asked HG, if it is ok to say HG??….How he would handle her? HG told me what he would do and I am going to do the same, in my next meeting with her. She showed cognitive empathy, only after I got upset with her. She was losing control over me, so she tried a cognitive empathy gesture of trying to lean closer to me, finally looked me in the eyes, and grabbed my hand, in an empathatic like gesture….it give me the creeps, how she leaned into me and grabbed my hand…I rejected her hold on my hand and I moved away from her.
I was thinking she might be an Upper Midrange, but I haven’t been around her enough to really get a good picture of her behaviors.
I wonder if she realizes that I observe her behaviors and make mental notes about her? Xx
What do you think of her behaviors, 1WhoCares? HG? Anyone? Xx
Hi Leigh,
I am glad to read that you have found peace with the dynamic with your mother. Xx
I am relieved you already had the funeral arranged, that is a huge weight off your shoulders right now when you need it the most. Xx
Everyone responds differently to death. I am happu for you that it released your resentment and anger towards your mother. Xx
Thank you for sharing your daughters reactions to your mother’s death. I hope the funeral goes smoothly for you and your family. Xx
Leigh,
I hope you allow yourself time over the coming weeks and months to process your emotions in relation to your mother’s death, whatever those emotions might be.
Dear Leigh,
Losing your mother (narc or not) is an emotional journey on all different levels, at times you least expect. I feel your loss and my deep heartfelt thoughts are with you.
💕
Hi Josephina,
I remember when you originally shared about your mom. I hope she’ll be ok.
Have you read about the overwhelming angel at all? Maybe your Dad falls into that category. Angel with a Dirty Face is a good article to read too.
Hi WN,
Thank you for your condolences.
Rebecca,
Re: your oncologist…it seems a short time yes, but in that short time there also seems to be numerous red flags. (And to start with, we know the field of medicine has a higher concentration of narcissists in certain roles.)
“she tried getting closer to me and tried to hold my hand. I pulled my hand away”
Her attempt to mollify you in this fashion would be off-putting regardless of what she is. However, I feel like someone with real emotional empathy would have been unlikely to make this move in response to your frustration and upset…they would look to remedy the situation in an alternative fashion, in my opinion.
Hi 1WhoCares,
I agree with you, her grabbing for my hand and moving closer to me, breaking into my personal space like that, was a narcissistic move. She kept her distance, until then and compared to my radiologist and the oncologist surgeon, she was a cold fish. She was all facts and reprimand. She may be even be a psychopath? Less likely I think, she is a UMRC-TYPE B. What do you think? Xx
Rebecca,
https://narcsite.com/2015/09/29/questioning-me/comment-page-30/#comment-472057
UMRC-TYPE B?
I get that the ‘C’ is cerebral. But is there an Upper Midrange Type B narc?
No, there is not.
“No, there is not.”
Phew. I thought I’d missed a lesson.
Dear HG and 1WhoCares,
I am sorry, my mistake about the Type B. I have made that mistake before. Xx
Upper Midrange Cerebral is what I think my oncologist is. I am sorry for the error. I feel dumb, embarrassed and shame. Type A and B are for the Middle Midrange and the Upper Lessers. Xx
You’re welcome, Leigh.
I understand that you feel it’s not really a loss, especially if you have had little contact.
I think it can still be a time of deep sadness and also possibly conflicting emotions. At least, that’s how it was for me when my mum died.
Be kind with yourself and take some time just for yourself if you need to.
Dear HG and 1WhoCares,
The oncologist told me, in our most recent visit, that she is not one to force anything onto anyone, but then makes another appt to further discuss me taking the tamoxifen drug, after I already told her, no. That is bullying behavior, but yet she denies pushing me to take it, and denies that she is indeed trying to push me into taking it. She is in denial of her own behaviors, or she is aware she is doing it and asserting control by using denial as a defense? I am not 100% sure which it is, but made a guess as to her being an unaware narcissist, and made the guess of an Upper Midrange Cerebral narcissist. I could be wrong because, as I said before, I haven’t been around her much, but I have noted her behaviors. In appearance she is groomed, but not excessively groomed.She wears eyeglasses, but no fake eyelashes, or make up. She is in shape, but not hard like a gym bunny. Her hair is neat, but not overly styled and preppy. She speaks factually, but her tone changes when she speaks. She doesn’t have the flashiness of a Somatic narcissist. She is more, let us get down to business, sort of person. All of these signs I see as Cerebral behaviors. Her age? I would guess she is around my age, maybe a little younger, but not older than me. I could be wrong. I don’t know her age. I only know what I noted in the few times I met with her. Xx
Rebecca,
Re: school/cadre of your oncologist… don’t be so hard on yourself!
I just figured you mistyped.
….Or..
You were gaslighting me!!!
😉😉
Hi 1WhoCares,
😄😄It was me losing my mind, aflter I sent the comment, I was like, are there Type A and B for Upper Midrange? Too late! Xx
Now I have to stay after class, wear the dummy hat and possibly get the paddle. Xx
Dear HG,
What is the punishment for such an error? Asking for a friend. 😁😄😄🤪xx
Hi Rebecca,
I wanted to respond to your comments about your mom & your brother also.
With regards to the negative self talk caused by your mom, I had a thought. I wonder if we can use logical thinking in those instances as well. When you hear the negative thought, go to the logic. So when you start thinking you’re overweight, remind yourself you’re a size 4 and that’s a normal size and weight. I think that inner critic is emotional thinking & its a way to keep us under their thumb.
As for your brother, I think you should consult with Mr. Tudor to see if hes a psychopath vs sociopath, primary vs secondary, aware vs unaware. What I know for sure is none of those categories have empathy and none of them attach the way we do. But I can’t say for sure where I’d place him.
I saw your comment to 1WC. Good for you! Don’t let your doctor bully you. You do what’s best for you!
Dear Leigh and Rebecca, just crowbarring my two penneth in, I think this thread is saturated for replies!
Leigh, in some way that is a biggie, your narc mother passing on. Ride the wave! Sending my respects to you.
Rebecca, you asked what we think about your oncologist’s behaviours.
I think she appears to be an a-hole and needs to be jettisoned in favour of somebody better. From what I’ve read, you’re in the process of doing this, but it’s an extra stress you ought not have. She’s sounds sadistic as well, even if subtly and unconsciously.
In terms of narc flags, we’ve got: needing to control you; lack of boundary recognition; perhaps the stirrings of suppressed fury? Possible challenge fuel when you resisted, then possibly more fuel when you got upset? As you said, she tried a show of cognitive empathy too. Looking into your eyes sounds aggressive, yuck.
I wonder if she will revise history/do a pity play when this complaint takes effect. She does not sound like a pity play kinda gal, but I can’t really know that can I?
Bearing in mind the prevalence of female mid-rangers, according to HG and, if I recall correctly the prevalence of mid-rangers in the care/health industries, we could be looking at a lovely narcissist here, couldn’t we? 🙂
Hi Mari,
HG also said, that a narcissist doctor can be a better doctor because their patient dying is a threat to their control and looks bad on them. They most likely will not want their patient to die or get sicker because they have a facade to maintain and it threatens their control. I am bullheaded at times, especially when I dig my heals in over a decision I made. The whole eye contact thing, I do that when I am talking to someone, so I can read their facial expressions and body language. She sometimes looks at her papers, her screen and sometimes me, when she grabbed my hand, she was looking me right in the eyes. I didn’t feel threatened by this because it was her attempt at cognitive empathy and I didn’t want her touching me. She wasn’t being threatening to me, she was trying to control me. Xx
Hi Mari,
Which type of narcissist do you think she is? I vote for midrange and being at her educational level and attempt at cognitive empathy, that a Non-HG student could possibly fall for, I would guess an UMRC- Type B. Ehat are your thoughts? Am I right? Wrong? Mari? HG? Anyone? Xx
Thank you Leigh,
Yes, I agree with you that the inner critic is my emotional thinking and to combat ET, I must use logical thinking and the way to do that is using critical thinking, another form of logical thinking. Reason my way out of the bs my emotional thinking is trying to get me to believe is true. Stopping my ET thoughts and not getting pulled under by them, is difficult, but I do come back up with the thought of, this is all bs my mother had me believing about myself. She is a bullshitter. I pull myself out of it. I just have to fight to get there. I wish it was automatic, but it isn’t, not yet. More practise makes for stronger muscles. Xx
My brother was definitely a psychopath, his NDC came back psychopath. I want to know was he a sociopath? Was he aware? He didn’t say anything to me that would indicate awareness, or maybe I missed the flags of that awareness because I don’t know as much about psychopathy as much as narcissism? He is a puzzle to me and I feel a strong desire to know the answers. I want to understand him because we fought verbally sometimes and those fights, I feel guilt over because what if he couldn’t help doing what he did because he was a sociopath and couldn’t fight his impulses and didn’t understand them himself?? Wouldn’t I be an asshole for being mad at him for something he couldn’t help? Sociopaths can’t control their impulses and they weren’t born that way. They were made that way due to abuse and living in an abusive environment. They can develop trauma bonds with siblings, who also lived in that abusive environment. I think we had that trauma bond and a trauma bond isn’t healthy, stable or love. It is a raw attachment to someone who was there during your abuse, they were your sage haven through the storm. He was that for me and I think I was that for him. I could be wrong, but that is how I see my relationship with my brother.
It is the verbal fights I regret, with him. I was dealing with losing mother, losing Dad, my narc husband’s drinking problem and dealing with my brother’s behaviors on top of all that. I got angry with him because he kept doing dumb things like stealing the car, smoking in the house with the ac on and opening the windows. He knew he wasn’t allowed to smoke in the house, so he would open the windows, but left the ac on. He would do what he wanted to do, despite the rules and then he would ask me why I was so upset about him taking the car? He said, I put gas in it and I needed it. Why are you mad?
He could rebuild a computer, HG, but he struggled to follow rules of acceptable behaviors. He wasn’t dumb, he wanted to do what he wanted to do and his brain lacked the brakes to stop the urges. Sociopaths don’t have the mental brakes to stop to consider, maybe I shouldn’t do this because of this and that. No, they do it, with no stopping.No brakes. The damage took the brakes away. Xx
1WC, TS, Bubbles & Mari,
Thank you for your kind sentiments. I appreciate them all.
The best way I can explain it is that I’m not experiencing grief. When my brother died, I was a mess. I was devastated. Thats not happening with my mother. It seems like its long lost relative whose passed. You feel sad about their passing but its not grief.
TS, to your point, I keep waiting for some feeling to pop up that needs to be processed, but nothing is happening. With my brother, it happened immediately & it took me months to work through.
Mari, I agree my mother’s passing is HUGE! My life going forward is forever changed.
Hi Rebecca,
I agree that it’s important to use critical thinking.
Yes, I remember that the narc detector came back on your brother as psychopath. I meant another consult might be in order to see if he’s a psychopath or a sociopath.
I want to say something and I hope you receive in the way I intend. You may be trauma bonded to your brother but I don’t think your brother was trauma bonded to you, even if he was a sociopath. I think that’s your ET again.
I think sociopaths are still born. Its just another branch of anti social personality disorders.
I don’t think its wise to give your brother a pass if he was unaware. I agree that he can’t help the behaviors but I don’t think that matters. Its not ok for us to make excuses for abusive behaviors. That’s how we get stuck.
Did you listen to the psychopath vs sociopath video that TS sent you. I think that will help.
I think you should listen to Mr. Tudor’s videos on Comstance Marten & Mark Gordon. Spoiler alert: Gordon is a sociopath.
Hello Rebecca, thank you for describing more about her behaviours + how it came over to you.
I understood the eye contact was cognitive empathy, not meant to seem aggressive, that was my knee-jerk response – imagining why she *really* bothered to look into your eyes at that point. As you say, it was to control you of course!
I will refrain from guessing exactly what kind of narc she might be, but I guess a mid-ranger if she is one. Middle or upper, ya. I can’t possibly guess the rest. Either which way, she’s been horrible.
Good point about wanting you well and alive for her own facade, eh? Do you think she gets paid more for administering the pills she wanted you to take? Please excuse any ignorance about that.
Anyway Rebecca, you’re dealing with it very well – good for you – and for consulting THE ULTRA 😉
Hi Rebecca,
I agree with Mari & 1WC. Someone with empathy wouldn’t treat you that way. There’s lots of red flags flying around. I don’t trust your oncologist at all.
Hi Mari,
No worries, I have mentioned the paybacks that doctors get from pharma companies for selling their drugs to patents. I know the law and how they work around it. Hiding the paybacks as other money, for other things, but they get the free cruise and the free dinners from the pharma companies, they just write a different title on the envelope. It is 100% why I think she is pushing tamoxifen my way and she is 100% getting the finger salute from me. Xx
Hi Mari,
Thank you for the encouraging words to me about handling my oncologist and I am glad HG helped me!
Excuse my error in calling them paybacks….they are called kick backs….extra money docrors get from pharma companies for selling their drugs to their patients. I remember seeing the “drug pushers” in the doctor’s waiting rooms, with their smart suits and suitcase full of drug samples. My old bank Branch Manager was a drug salesman and he told me about the kick backs and my mother knew about them too because she was a LPN nurse. The laws against them are easily worked around and they easily look the other way.
I mentioned it to my Advocate Social Worker and she knew about kick backs being real too. Xx
Dearest Rebecca,
I know a little of what you speak.
The series “Dopesick’ with Michael Keaton was a huge eye opener ! There are others docos and movies exposing the industry along the same line. Just like the food industry producing chemically laden poisonous products that eventually send us to the “good” Drs. Just look at the food label ingredients and all the chemicals being sprayed on our crops.
I was a “wake up” to this yonks ago and that is why I made most of my food from scratch and as pure as. Home grown produce, farmers market, anything organic and à la natural, pure honey and dark chocolate. We have certified organic and biodynamic wineries here.
These “good” Drs, Specialists, Psychs are “designed” to prescribe medications. The Big Pharma money making machine.
I don’t take any medications and it pisses my “good” Drs off big time.
Sadly, Mr Bubbles takes a minimum of 13 tablets a day to “keep him going” and I absolutely hate it. That, by the way, is the magic number of meds they typically prescribe to keep the cash registers cha chinging 🤑
I observed and learnt “a lot” being at the hospital for 4 months with Mr Bubbles and believe me, it’s not pretty!
I truly feel for you Rebecca. Stray strong 💪
Dear Bubbles,
Thank you for the support, it means a lot! Xx
I am not going to let the oncologist win! My Dad took 16 pills a day and I didn’t know it until we went down home to bury my mother. He was unpacking his bag, in front of me, while we were talking about funeral plans, and he pulled out a bag of drugs. I automatically asked him, “What is that?” He explained, he was taking 4 blood pressure medicines, a heart medicine, medicine for pre diabetes etc. I was shocked! Who needs 4 different blood pressure medicines?!
When we got home, after the funeral, we straightened out his medicine with his doctors.
After a few weeks later, half of them he didn’t even need anymore. He had lost weight, not eating mother’s southern comfort foods anymore and going to the gym. He lost 30 lbs! He was no longer pre-diabetic, his blood pressure was normal and he felt better. I think most of the change was due to not dealing with my mother’s narc behaviors and not eating her southern comfort food.
In the end he was taking a lower dose of a heart pill and a cholestrol pill. His life got better, for the short 1 year and 10 months he lived after her death. It was happy for that last year. He grieved for her too, but overall, his life got better. He was dating a lady from church. He arranged a dinner meeting, for me to meet her. He was worried about me getting hurt by him dating someone. He was so relieved when I was happy for him and I knew her from church. She was a sweet, nice lady his age and they were happy dating each other. He told me, “I am not trying to replace your mother. We are dating and I wanted your approval.”
I told him, “Dad, you don’t need my approval. I am happy for you. It is nice to see you smiling and happy again. You do what makes you happy. I love you, this is your time to be happy.”
It touched me that he was worried about my reaction to him dating. I encouraged him to be happy. He did for mother, and did for her. It was his time to do for him. He truly lived for the first time of his life. I was truly happy for him. I wished he had gotten more of that time to live and be happy. Xx
Dearest Rebecca,
Awww, that story about your dad was so lovely to read, thankyou.
I forgot to mention Mr Bubbles takes 5 pills in the evening, as well.
Having said that, most of the pills are from what he contracted in the hospital thru trial and error and all his medical emergencies were the hospital’s fault. The longer you’re there, the sicker you get. The poor man was seen by every dept in the hospital. He was on so many IV’s and blood transfusions. Prior to hospital he was only ever on 2 pills and one was Vit D.
Same with my mum, healthy as a ox, never took medication, goes into aged care and the “good” drs started prescribing medication. I “cracked a fruity” (in the nicest way possible) haha
They were giving her some white tablets and I asked “what are those for “, they said “Panadol”, I asked “why”, they replied “because of the pain”, I asked mum, “are you in pain at all ?” she replied “no, never”
2 Panadols (3 times a day for no reason) x 142 residents and other medication . 🤑
Her chemist bill shot up to $150 per month from $14 per month. Don’t get me started on Dental aged care 🤦♀️ what a rip off !
I made them stop !
Currently, we have “home care” for Mr Bubbles. He lost 30 kg and has aged a fair bit, as one does. I’m glad I was with him every step of the way, as he can barely remember anything. I have to show him photos to prove it.
We have an apt with Oncology soon, can hardly wait!
Any advice, dearest Rebecca ?
Dearest Rebecca,
I forgot to mention.
Being as we were in the hospital for so long, we made friends with all the RN’s, nurses, physios etc….. we were part of the family, so to speak. Cleaners and the food trolley staff were the best, they see and hear it all haha
The amount of “behind the scenes” info we received was astounding. What red flags I picked up on, they readily confirmed.
Find a source and get the low down ammunition.
Always good to be forewarned and prepared.
All the best lovely ☺️
Hi Rebecca,
I lost our thread. But I wanted to tell you to look at Mr. Tudor’s analysis on Chris Watts too. He’s an unaware psychopath.
Thank you Leigh! Xx I am also trying to find the video you said TS sent me in the comments…I am afraid I am lost in the trees here….xx
Hey Leigh and Rebecca again,
I totally get what you’re saying regarding your mother, Leigh. Just from snippets I caught about her in your comments, I guessed you might not feel much love lost.
And Rebecca, Bingo! Follow the money, eh?
Middle fingers all round. As a posh, wino ex-pal used to say: “One knows ones own medicine, Marianne!”
Hi Leigh,
It cost me C$30.64 (with tax) – it depended which level you selected. This amount allowed a single person to view the Narcissist’s Playbook and to take part in the launch weekend events.
As of today, the film is available for anyone to rent – likely at a lower cost.
Here’s the link:
https://narcissistsplaybook.uscreen.io/catalog
Thanks for the link, 1WC. Its much cheaper through this link so I may consider it.
Hi Leigh,
I saw it is $19,99 now. I am still debating in watching it. I haven’t ever watched Sam and I don’t have an interest in hearing him. The film’s inaccurate info may upset me more than it is worth watching. I am still debating with myself about my decision. Xx
Hello Rebecca:
Sorry only place I found to comment. Sorry about your mom. No matter what the relationship, it’s always hard. Death is so final. Hugs.
I am glad you are consulting with HG.
1. Do you think your mother passing has triggered something in relationship to your brother?
To me, psychopaths are easier to understand than narcs. I wonder if your brother had co- morbidities or was a different sort than my husband. Both were diagnosed ASPD. My ex had one close confidentiality in crime and life, his brother. If he trusted anyone, it was him. When he was dying of brain cancer, my ex husband ASPD had her a young teenager research alternative theories to save him. I objected as I felt my daughter should not feel responsible at her age to save her beloved uncle from brain cancer but I had no control just input telling her this which she was stressed and my advice helped…. But she lived her uncle….
When the brother died, he my ex spread his ashes with his parents and sister’s in the ocean with his children there…. Much to the dismay of his sisters children who hate him and felt the right to their own mothers ashes. BUT he took control and did what he wanted. He got the money too. All left to him except 37,900 to each niece and nephew. He was a multi millionaire, the sisters kids felt cheated. Hate him lots. Estranged.
I always felt my ex kissed up to his Aunt Lily who was 106 when she died and lived like a pauper with 800,000 in the bank, to get her money too. He did. She died in Brooklyn at 106 and Orthodox Jews took her body or stole it from the hospital and no one knows where she is buried. He did nothing about that but took the money.
He showed little emotions at their deaths. Surprise to me about Aunt Lily who we named our daughter after but a bit about his brother. I think he felt self pity if any feeling at all.
Hi Contagious,
Thank you for the kind words, but my mother died a few years before my brother did, and my Dad died between when my mother died and my brother died.
I don’t think my mother’s death triggered my questions about my brother. I think my own cancer treatments and recovery have triggered questions about my dynamic with my brother. I think he was a sociopath based on his behaviors I recall from childhood and adulthood. He died at 42. His third heart attack was a massive one and it killed him while he slept. He died a few months after he was kicked out, over him stealing the car. He was living with a friend from one of his trucking jobs. He died in bed, in his house. He laid there for 4 days before his roommate found him. The police were called, they suspected foul play and there was an autopsy done and an investigation that took a couple of weeks. The police thought he had been murdered.
They discovered the top half of his heart had exploded and he died from that massive heart attack. He didn’t take care of himself. He was very self destructive. He chain smoked, ate fast food, drank mountain dew like water and didn’t take his heart medicine. He had two previous heart attacks and his doc told him to give up smoking because it was damaging his heart. He kept smoking anyway. In his autopsy report, that I have, it read that parts of his heart were black from damage, from the previous 2 heart attacks. Sociopaths can be self destructive and he was very self destructive. He had very odd sleeping habits. He would stay up for 48 hours or more and then sleep for 12 hours. He lost jobs from sleeping through his shifts. He was like this as a child too. He would sleep in school and freak out when the teacher woke him up. That is another indicator of psychopathy, sociopathy. Xx
News of this film had not reached the rock I choose to live beneath.
I’d say anything showcasing Dr Popeye Plagiarist is a ‘Nope’ from me. Even before I discovered HG’s work, I could not stick her, I couldn’t stand the drama and the EYES. Sam V is unlistenable to, deadly boring and unpleasant in my opinion.
It’s jolly good that HG is part of the film. Imagine if he’d declined…his information is a benchmark in the swirling waters of inaccuracy and those who are ready to perceive its value will come forth to the fold :). Oops, do I sound culty?
I share your concerns, Leigh and certainly wouldn’t donate’ $50 for it. I’d rather put it toward HG’s work (and as my mum would say, ‘You little creeper!’ :D)
I also share Contagious’ concerns about the mish-mash of integrity.
Thanks WC1, for bringing this up and everyone else for the insights.
Haha, Mari – I know what you mean about the EYES.
I agree, Mari! There’s so much drama from her. And so much arrogance! Crazy eyes, for sure! 🤪 😜 🤪 😜
hey leigh, i never would’ve considered she was a narcissist until Mr.HG brought the sneaky mid rangers to my awareness! prior to that – and confirmation from reading this blog – i just felt she off-key.
Hi Mari,
I didn’t find Plagiarizer until after I found Mr. Tudor so I knew immediately she was off. She’s so self assured and smug even though she gets it so wrong. I can’t stand her, lol!
I’m really very lucky that Mr. Tudor was the first expert I found on the subject. I’ve never had any reason to go anywhere else.
Hi HG:
It just dawned on me … how many unaware narcissists will be watching this? So many see themselves as victims. I know my ex MLN calls me a psychopath or a Black Widow. So no doubt he runs around with that story and watches these types of films or videos etc… and says to himself and others that’s me! I would imagine narcs eat up this stuff as victims. Yes?
It is common that unaware narcissists read and watch material about narcissism. They are unable to see that it applies to them. They will however, through the distortion field of their narcissism, see lots of ways it applies to genuine victims.
Dear Mr Tudor,
Sad to hear of the murder of Ann Widdecombe former British MP (l liked her)
Of course, Devon and Cornwall police reported they apprehended a 26 yr old “white British national” (emphasised) and our news in Australia have referred to Ann as an “anti immigration campaigner” (emphasised).
Adding more hatred, fuel, division and racism to the fire, disgusting !!
They’re ever so careful and protective reporting “illegal immigrants” though aren’t they ?
What are your thoughts Mr Tudor?
Ps our dim witted, narcissistic PM publicly stated he wanted to, “shag, marry and date” Kylie Minogue. How disrespectful to women?
Then ….he also made underlying innuendos in an interview regarding the Japanese PM’s gift to him of her melons.
This is what happens when a narcissist tries and fails miserably.
Thoughts Mr Tudor ?
Dear Mr Tudor,
Ann Widdecombe’s murder is very sus !
What say you Mr Tudor?
Hello Bubbles:
I wanted to address bullying at a young age. I think teens are cruel and I don’t know why. I had many bad experiences as a teen where I could never sue them and suck them dry as years to go before the Juris Doctorate and too embarrassed to tell my kind parents.
First when I entered high school me and my best friend were liked by the two favorite jocks. Of course flattered but the senior girls bullied us. Crank calls, spread rumors we were sluts. I was strong but my best friend almost killed herself and became a goth ( popular then) slipping into the quiet world of art and avoidance. I held my head high and found myself alone at lunch. Fortunately for me, I was never a click joiner especially the popular click. I joined my pot head friends in the courtyard, my nerdy friends from my classes and sat with the black students who sat at their own tables. My attitude irked the bullies. So……. I went to a party and someone drugged my drink. The idea was to rape me. These were nasty senior male twins who I learned later drugged and raped girls. I still remember the purple odd tasting drink. Stupid me but I also remember crawling out a bedroom window stumbling across a front yard and into a trunk of someone at the party. I hid. I passed out so when I awoke it was the next day at an Italian restaurant where he worked and Joey found me in the trunk. Joey told me about the twins and how I was not touched but I still felt the trauma at 16. When he died a few years ago, I thanked Joey, a kind kid. I moved out after graduation at 17. I was mugged twice in Philadelphia once at knife point. I thought he was going to slit my neck, he cut my gold cross necklace off instead.At 18, I lived with my college boyfriend in NYC on Bleeker Street. I went home and made the mistake of going to the bathroom there at Grand Central Station before I went home to Philly. A group of black women circled me in the bathroom. I slowly backed towards the door while throwing them my watch, my earrings, all the cash in my wallet on the floor as they ran to grab it, I ran out the door. How many harms do we face as a teen????. But here’s what I know. You learn. You grow. You don’t walk in back alleys even if a block from your home, you don’t drink drinks from strangers, you don’t go to public bathrooms without scanning the room. You look at the back of your car seat before entering. You keep your doors locked at night and day even your car. You walk with confidence and your keys upright in your fingers wherever you go. You have a 357 magnum at home loaded and ready and you learn all you can about psychopaths and narcissists from HG. I could go on but a law degree has helped too.
In short, you live, you learn. X
On a side note, my daughter had a very rich girl try to kill herself on daddy’s yacht from being bullied for being the rich girl. My daughter called me from the yacht. I called 911 and I got the mother on the phone. I spoke to the girl while overdosing on Xanax too. She lived. I could go on but also be the person that teens will trust. I helped many. My son once brought a room full of teen boys with legal issues. Once my teen son came with drunken teens, one the birthday boy was very very drunk… I told them that he could choke on his vomit and we needed to stay up until he woke in case we needed to call 911. I didn’t sleep and the teens monitored him. . I always had their backs. It always starts with love and kindness. Empathy. Teens are beasts as was I by nature but perhaps more than small children, they need kindness. Even the bullies come from angst and pain ( although should be stopped – my idea of going after the parents works.)
There was a 15 or 16 year old boy Henry who sat next to me at science class and he drew swastikas all over his notebook. He was the evil twins younger brother. There was a rumor that his sister had been tied to a chair and raped by her father. There were rumors that their father beat them. There was a rumor Henry tortured cats. Put them in microwaves. Here I sat, next to Nazi 15 year old Henry, a protester who refused to dissect cats in biology as they came from shelters ( my only C in my life and it was a college level course in high school that effected my GPA and the bio teacher who was probably a narc as he looked like Kenny Rogers and put posters of Kenny Rogers all over the walls of his classroom despised me for my relentless questions about the poor cats and frogs that I would not touch). … anyway I digess. I showed kindness to poor Henry with his black eyes and bruises no one cared about in those days. He was cold. Inarticulate. I knew he was cruel. But guess what? He did the dissections secretly for me that’s how I got a C and not an F. We were partners. He showed small signs of kindness by giving me a pencil and once he even smiled. I don’t know what happened to him or his sister or the evil twins. I left graduation and never looked back. I didn’t even attend my high school graduation. Funny enough I was in running for homecoming queen and got second place, the winner was Miss Pennsylvania in the USA pageant, I won a scholarship they gave to one person in the state to Washington DC and was in the papers and I was life long friends with my best friends from high school. One died at 50. One is still my joy happy in Florida. It was a good enough ending.
The point is no matter what life throws at you: get up, show up, and always be kind. Those are my words.
Dearest Contagious,
I am completely gobsmacked after reading your encounters with bullying, pain, attacks and those involved you did this to you.
Thank you so much lovely for sharing, that must have brought back horrendous emotions and been very hard. There are a large volume of extremely sick individuals out there and from what I see these days, they are completely “mental” and should be in “institutions” or “prison”. You have weathered a very traumatic life and have my utmost admiration. I’m so sorry you endured all that bullying at such a young age and throughout your life.
Any one who hurts people or animals, are complete psychos.
You surged ahead regardless and made yourself a truly worthy and courageous woman, in spite of everything. Bravo!
“Being kind” is also my motto, however, being kind also gets one into trouble!
Thank you again lovely one for sharing
Hello Bubbles:
Here in the USA it’s the Mexicans. We share a border. But my son worked border portrol early on in his career and said “ mom, it’s every country pouring in illegally.” This was before Afghanistan and Iraq. Ok. From my view point Mexicans are Catholic. Hardworking. Family oriented and good people. They aren’t the cartels. They pick our fruits, they clean are hotels, they raise our babies, they landscape and do construction. Many go on to do more and live the American dream like Beccera who is Californias next governor. Some drain our system as they send their kids to school and use our medical system as illegal and not paying tax. Some are criminals but it’s our young white men shooting up schools etc… not them. Los Angeles is now majority Hispanic. I am fine with that. I love the Mexican people, most are very Christian. But what if LA became majority Saudi Arabian Muslim. It would terrify me. As their values are not Christian values and their treatment of women including the burkas even if the women love their burkas offends me as a women. Sharia law disgusts me. Honor killings disgust me. My friends who are liberal Muslims do not. They integrate. I have Muslims friends in the UK who don’t like the extreme. But no Christian country should be taken over by Islam. Sorry. End of. I agree with you Bubbles and WN.
Dear Contagious,
I would prefer Mexicans here rather than Muslim terrorists or jihadists who kill Jews and other innocent people.
All other nationalities have adapted, except one lot ! You integrate, not segregate !!!!
There’s a “proposed” 13 storey UK Albanian Muslim mosque in Queens Park, Nth West London, in for approval to be built on an old English pub site (The Shamrock) (the irony) right next to a small Baptist Church, yup ! It will include 3 floors for prayer, children’s classrooms, restaurant, café, function room, admin use, cultural activities and an on site morgue!!!!! WT?
There an already 15 existing mosques within the 3 mile radius.
I guarantee no Brit will be allowed in it !
Research suggests, in LA County there are est 38 mosques with an estimated 400,000 -500,000 Muslim population.
Greater LA Metro 49 mosques, pop 500,000
Southern California 120 mosques, pop 500,000
Entire state of California, 304-361 mosques, pop 1,000,000
This makes the Greater LA area the second largest Muslim population in any metro area following NYC.
We are having to complete a mandatory (you’ll get fined if you don’t) Census of population and housing here in Australia 11th August and patriotic Australians are not happy doing it because we have no faith or trust in our hypocritical govt. It is so invasive and does not list Jews or Christians under religion (also has a whole list of sexual identities). The Muslim Imams have copied and revised its front page saying it’s a Muslim Census. WT ????
The govt already knows our business from existing data bases. Why spend “$726 million” on information they already have. We have our suspicions about their intentions eg the govt have suggested a levy on spare bedrooms and for empty nesters to down size. Also, if you don’t identify as Christian, they will most likely build more mosques. I wouldn’t put anything past our despicable govt. They say one thing and do the exact opposite.
Again, the whole census is “ironic” as it does not reflect the outcome it generates.
Sharia law is purely political and they just want to kill us in the west, so that constitutes evil to me! What began in the 7th century should stay in the 7th century!
Whilst I’m on a rant, this American data centre builder said these data centres don’t need water, they are lying to us. AGAIN !!!!
These rich psychos are deliberately destroying our beautiful planet and everything on it. If they want to live underground, be my guest! They’ll already be in hell, where they belong! 😈
Dear Bubbles:
We are on the same page. LA and NYC have large groups of every person race, creed and religion but the Mexicans aka ICE is what is usually spoken about here. What do you think about Denmark?
I say excellent! Denmark is leading the way with new laws to preserve their culture…
Read here:
https://www.google.com/search?q=denmarks+crackdon+on+muslims&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari#lfId=ChxjMe
Dear Contagious,
Yay for Denmark, I love Denmark, I stayed with friends in Denmark many many moons ago. I hope it’s a domino effect real soon. They should all adopt Hungary and Poland’s mandate!
Sadly, there’s another ginormous mosque nearing completion in Strasbourg, France. The existing Great Mosque of Strasbourg holds 1,500 people whilst this new one, the Eyyub Sultan Mosque, will hold 2,500 people. That’s alarming!
Once upon a time I was falling in love
But now I’m only falling apart
There’s nothing I can do
A total eclipse of the heart
Once upon a time there was light in my life
But now there’s only love in the dark
Nothing I can say
A total eclipse of the heart
… ahh, what a song! And Bonnie Tyler’s distinctive raspy voice. Iconic.
May Bonnie Tyler rest in peace ❤️
@HG
I have an ex-friend who is a narc – she didn’t do anything to me that I know of but I realised she was a narc and just didn’t give her my new number and this was over 2 years ago
She is back again trying to friend request on social media, unrequesting and requesting again so that I see the notification…
We were not intimate or anything, so I thought I wouldn’t have been that relevant in the fuel matrix?
I’m not even being contacted by my ex’s
What is this about?
It’s so irritating being narc food
You are evidently coming up on her radar and her narcissism requires her to assert control over you, accordingly you are being hoovered through the social media request. If you want more detail and how to address this, an email consultation will assist.
Trump personally contacted FIFA president Gianni Infantino to review and overturn the red card issued to a US football player in a World Cup game …
… and the FIFA president obliged …
Despite the rules and implications of receiving the red card which banned the player from the team’s next game, the ban was overturned and the player was allowed to play in the next game.
A very public example of two narcissists ‘cementing’ their individual aims.
I had a strong suspicion that Gianni Infantino is a narcissist when he told journalists from around the world soon before the World Cup began to “chill and relax” when he was questioned about skyrocketing ticket prices and travel difficulties. The ticket prices and travel issues were a blatant money grab that prevented large numbers of football fans from attending matches.
I also thought the opening ceremony was a big letdown.
It’s ironic that ‘infantino’ is a word that derives from the Italian ‘infante,’ and means little child or young child.
Yep, he’s a manchild with no empathy and no conscience, just like the Orange one.
It’s positive that a group of about 35 European politicians have now launched a move to have Gianni Infantino investigated by the FIFA Ethics Committee.
Dear HG,
I wanted to ask whether you have seen the film *Compliance* (2012), which is based on real events.
The film shows a man who calls a fast-food restaurant, pretends to be a police officer, and falsely accuses a young female employee of stealing, even though she has done nothing wrong. He then manipulates the staff into following his instructions. He gives different tasks to different people, gradually escalating what he asks them to do. Through authority, manipulation and the compliance of others, he persuades them to carry out increasingly degrading and abusive acts against her, which ultimately culminate in her being sexually assaulted.
At the end of the film, it is stated that there were around 70 similar incidents across the United States, but the suspected caller was ultimately acquitted.
I found this extremely disturbing, because the man appears to exert control purely through his voice, authority, manipulation, gradual escalation and the compliance of others.
Would you regard the caller as a psychopath? Or would you classify him differently?
I would be very interested to hear your view on this.
I have not seen this film.
Dear Mr Tudor,
Awwww …..poor Klaus Schwab found a covert listening device in his home.
Was it Alexa, Siri, iPhone, browser, robot vacuum cleaner, gaming console, security camera, smartwatch, AirPods, headset, Tesla car or his TV?
Have nothing Klaus and be happy !!! 🤣
Dear HG,
Thank you for your highly entertaining characterisation of the differences between MI5 and MI6 personnel in the latest videos (“The MI5 Assessment of the Sussex July Visit”/”The MI6 Sussex Threat Assessment”). MI6 has all the fun scampering around the globe, whereas MI5 sounds like the stodgy older brother or the stern uncle. I bet there is some excellent banter going on in those corridors!
You’re welcome.
Dear HG,
Thanks to Jordyguin, I listened to your video in the *Empath and Psychopathic Traits* series — *Superficial Charm*.
Although she sent me this video for an entirely different reason, clearly not having me in mind. (BUT HER CONTRIBUTION HAS BEEN ACKNOWLEDGED!)
I wasn’t sure whether to write this to your email or here. I’ll leave that to you. Publish it or not — as you wish. The important thing is simply that you read it.
Phenomenal.
This video completely stunned me.
It describes something that has troubled me for most of my life.
It describes something my ex saw in me (and it became especially pronounced when I was around him, although it was always there to begin with). It was something he constantly competed with me over. I cannot count how many times I was criticised and attacked because of it.
It is something particularly perceptive narcissistic colleagues noticed in me as well. They commented on it too.
It is something I have always noticed in myself, and something I have felt guilty about for years.
I had actually been thinking about writing to you personally about this. Of course, I could never have expressed it as beautifully, as subtly and as flawlessly as you did.
How… how are you able to read people — empaths — like this?
How can you understand them so well?
Perhaps you really are not human after all.
I am honestly in shock.
This hit me with incredible precision.
This has troubled me for so many years.
I use this both professionally and in everyday life. Bringing people together costs me nothing. Winning almost anyone over costs me nothing either.
And yes, I have often wondered whether I was manipulating people, and I felt guilty because of it.
But I explained it to myself differently.
I used to tell myself that, because of trauma, my cognitive empathy switches on first, and only when I understand that the environment is safe do I allow myself to actually feel anything — that is when my emotional empathy comes online.
And then I listened to your video.
Perhaps this is what you describe as *Superficial Charm*.
God… it hit the bull’s-eye.
But how is it possible that this video was sent to me precisely now?
It honestly felt almost supernatural.
Because over the last few days I had been thinking about writing to you. I wanted to tell you what I was like as a child and what I am like now. I kept thinking that perhaps you simply did not know the whole picture of me, and that perhaps, if you did, you might think differently.
I had this panicked thought:
*”What if HG was wrong about me? What if I am much worse than he thinks?”*
You will probably laugh, but I even started wondering whether I might actually be a Greater Narcissist!))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
I even thought I had somehow escaped HG’s Narc Detector.
And then I watched *Superficial Charm*.
The biggest shock of all was this:
Sometimes I find myself doing exactly this, and afterwards I think:
*”Why are you doing this, Josephina? Why can’t you simply sit quietly? What have you started again? There you are, once again at the centre of everyone’s attention, naturally leading the whole interaction. Everyone is enjoying themselves. Everyone feels comfortable. But you are not doing it because your heart told you to. You are doing it because you simply know how to make it happen.”*
Shock.
Just… shock.
Wrong.
I had you in mind.
When HG said, “Imagine… a therapist…”, you were the first person who came to mind because I recognised in you many of the qualities he described.
But since we’re not friends anymore, I won’t give you any more hints 😤
(… listen to other videos too 😑)
I’m listening to the other videos in the series… Oh my God, there is clearly more than one trait there. Oops. Mixed feelings. But it does answer many questions. Still, I feel relieved. HG, thank you SO MUCH for this Empath and Psychopathic Traits series!!!! I highly recommend everyone listen to it.
*The Empath and Psychopathic Traits : Boredom*
“However, it is precisely this trait that makes such an empath more vulnerable to the allure of the pure narcissist or psychopath.
Because they create exactly the intensity of experience to which this empath is strongly drawn.
They become the very storm that the stimulation-seeking empath cannot resist chasing”.
What a horror!!! Horror! But it is true!
Now it is finally clear why.
Disaster, disaster!
My life will never be the same again.
Who would have thought that, having come to this site in order to understand narcissists better, I would begin to understand myself better.
Simply incredible.
Josephina, in search of stimulation, heads out to hunt on dating apps—because where else would she find her beloved narcissists and psychopaths? After all, HG himself has written about dating apps being prime hunting grounds.
P.S. It seems that only the sacred bonds of marriage—or rather, wives—could protect narcissists from Josephina.
Dum dum dum… BOOM.
Sorry.
Curtain falls.
Dear Josephina,
“I would begin to understand myself better”
Absolutely, without a doubt !!!!! Congratulations lovely !
Mr Tudor was my “ahhhhh haaaaa, light bulb moment !
After most of my life questioning and never ending the puzzle games, I stumbled upon, “ironically a narcissist”, with all the answers.
Mr Tudor’s work is simply outstanding, of the highest quality, factual and the most professional I’ve ever come across.
Simply incredible.
Wow Josephine, I need to listen to that one. For me it’s, “know how to make it happen” and feel a responsibility to do so. I have improved regarding that second part a lot since finding HG, other people interactions are not my responsibility, whew. I never wanted them to be in the first place, it was put in me, by a narc of course.
I can tell you Josephina. I felt exactly like you when I watched the Contagian meets Darkness video. I spit out my coffee and jumped out of my seat! I was in shock. How did HG get in my head? How did he know to the tiniest detail what happened including when this narcissistic psychopath walked away finally on to his next target. HG would be a mind hunter, a top notch FBI profiler. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has actually worked in that capacity for England….. Everyone here has that AHA moment when watching something from HG! Glad you found yours;) It is exactly that: why he is the best!
I agree! Contagious!! Can you imagine? It would be absolutely mind-blowing… and terrifying at the same time.
Hi Josephina,
I think its pretty common for empaths to have some psychopathic traits. I know there are some that experience boredom also.
The video that resonated with me was the Espionage Game. Mr. Tudor talks about duper’s delight. I love keeping secrets. It gives me immense satisfaction.
HG do you think Harry is allowed to cheer for England in front of the wife?
Only if the black mamba vibrator has been inserted.
Dear Mr Tudor,
“Defender of all faiths”
King Charles has just dug his own grave ….. BIG MISTAKE !!!
The monarchy is doomed !
Dear ol Queen Lizzie would be mortified and turning in her grave !
Dear Mr Tudor,
Have you seen the banned movie “Citizen Vigilante” ?
Sounds like a must watch and your kind of movie hehe
Seen it? I inspired it.
Dear Mr Tudor,
You never disappoint with your answers hehe
Dear Mr Tudor,
The Muslim Council of Britain have formally filed a complaint to Ofcom, the UK’s media regulator, regarding the movie Citizen Vigilante. They say the movie has fuelled more racial and religious hatred.
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!!!
What are your thoughts ?
They don’t like that there freedom of speech do they? They might also like to consider why so many people identify with the film, but they won’t do that.
Dear Mr Tudor,
All our governments are completely ignoring us and twisting the narratives! They are all corrupt and evil !
From what I’ve observed, “the natives are restless” (the British men) they’ve had enough and have formed patriot groups to take their country back. The Lion needs to awaken, pronto !
I believe, this is what the govts want, (civil war) so then they can advance their next evil tactic of forced digital ID and take…CONTROL !
Whilst I’m here, did you have any COVID shots ? If so, how many, if not, why not ?
Looking forward to your response
Dear Mr Tudor,
Why won’t they do that ?
What is “your” take of the invasion of illegal immigrants, the violence, the killings, the rapes , the destruction and why the western governments are hell bent on going this path and not doing anything about it ?
This comes under the category of narcissists, evil and psychopaths!
I feel we would all welcome your perspective, facts and knowledge of what’s happening and why ?
This is a particularly expansive topic which does indeed have some genesis in the pursuit of the Prime Aims by the narcissists who are in a position of power and leadership and the psychopaths who pursue the Necessary Triad. To explain why it is occurring, including those narcissists and psychopaths and with regard to other factors also, is of such detail that it is outside the scope of a response in a comment. I may address it in a video.
The thing I find extremely hypocritical is that there are many who have an attitude as though they expect the country they have immigrated to to bend over backwards for them. They seem to think their new country owes them and they can behave exactly as they please.
They want to continue to live according to their religious beliefs, cultural background and lack of consideration AND they want their new country to provide social benefits, places of worship, special services, etc etc.
It makes me wonder why they weren’t as demanding and assertive when they were in their home countries … ?
Why didn’t they protest against their own governments and march in the streets to demand better conditions and more rights … ?
Imagine how progressive and socially responsible their own countries would have been if that was the case.
… oh … wait a minute … if they had protested and marched in the streets to demand rights, social benefits, special laws and services from the governments in their home countries, they probably would have been shot or imprisoned.
So why the attitude, arrogance and expectations when they live in the countries that took them in?
On the subject of the movie Citizen Vigilante, I haven’t watched the film but I have seen a few scenes on YouTube. I think the film is extremely violent and has some very contradictory messages. It’s overarching message though is something that I think needs to be aired.
At one point, the main ‘vigilante’ character says that it’s the ‘bad’ ones who immigrated to western countries while the ‘good’ ones stayed in their home countries. I would add to that and say that some of those who immigrated were the stupid, ignorant, arrogant and self-serving ones.
Following up on your psychopath series, it isn’t just a matter of love as the driving force or motive that can produce all kind of traits in defending God, Country, Family. History is filled with it.
But if you think of it… where does HATE come from? At what age? We speak of the narc building his defenses creating a fantasy where he is safe and needs to puppet the world to keep him so…but evidence suggests that a psychopath’s brain is wired differently: impulsive, a much less fear drive, a lower tolerance to pain … and no empathy… goal oriented. Environment is said to make psychopaths worse. Robert Ressler who coined the phrase serial killer said 100% of serial killers were abused in their early childhood. Dr Robert Hare, the leader of psychopathic study also indicates abuse is a factor. So if empaths can have these traits is it biology or can it be both? Your analysis indicates both HG. So I wonder if a biologically weakened individual is subject to abuse maybe the early child develops hate of the world and all in it and not love….hate could be the defense but what is hate? Not caring about another, wishing them harm, enjoying chaos and destruction, wanting the world to burn down. Where does hate come from? Usually haters hate themselves. They no longer matter why should anyone or anything matter, see you next Tuesday, the check please and oh… hand me your the money or I will blow your brains out without a thought. A baby never held dies. But what if a baby never gets love…. What’s sad but I am not convinced that some scientific discovery in our AI future won’t change that. Also a child born in love, raised in love cannot become a psychopath. What I agree with and recognize is that both the hardwiring, and the circumstance such as a predator with your child… what would an empathetic mother do to that predator to protect that child… torture ? Probably. Death? Yup. No empathy for the predator. So we are all on this human spectrum with traits. I had never thought of it. I truly wonder if anyone but HG/you has? It’s fascinating really. It explains a lot.
Hi Contagious,
“Environment is said to make psychopaths worse.”
I think it’s really interesting – fascinating, actually – to consider how environment affects everyone, not just psychopaths.
To me, it’s a case of what came first, the chicken or the egg?
The environment affects the individual and the individual affects the environment and so on. It goes on and on.
The beginning, though, I think, starts with the natural environment. That is the spark, the initial pilot point, if you like. If you go back through history, the natural environment either provided the impetus or put on the brakes.
Biology itself is a product of nature.
Dear Mr Tudor,
Thank you. I eagerly look forward to your analysis, as would so many others.
In a comment to Bubbles about illegal immigration, you said you may address it in a video.
I just wanted to say that I would be very interesting in hearing your perspective on it as well, Mr. Tudor.
Hello Bubbles:
The US is different than Europe. We have about 18,000 murders a year and 115,000 rapes per FBI data BUT it’s not migrants which falls much lower than the national average. The UK is equal in proportion. But no doubt the entirety of UK and Europe don’t murder people the way we do here. But that is the key: obviously migrants are a smaller percent than the general population. Obviously this small percent does significant damage to a country they enter. Not all but statistics demonstrate it’s true. I recall I think Sweden let a bunch of migrants in and saw a huge percent increase in one area of crime. No one says “ Welcome! Come on in! And wants crime rates to increase.” How governments handle things vary. Most are cracking down. And if the government does not the people protest, complain, go online…. Etc…I am fine with multi-culturalism. I am American. But I get the restrictions too and the reasons too. I think there needs to be REAL OPEN discussion. And I don’t think the valid concerns should be viewed merely as racist if the statistics show otherwise. I just think a healthy discussion is needed and should not be censored.
@Bubbles
I haven’t seen the movie but I would never want Muslims to be the majority in Britain and that’s on history up until today. There are liberal Muslims and I respect that and have no inherent issue with all Muslims, but Muslims in general should not be institutionally/legally powerful here, absolutely not. We will end up as refugees. Most of their leaders will tell you Islam comes first before everything and everyone
Dear Witch,
I have seen consecutive chapters of the movie, so am aware of it’s content.
Muslims eat drink and breathe their religion. They are brainwashed from birth and must learn and recite the Quran back to front. Their religion and Allah comes before everything, even their children, whom they would willingly sacrifice to their paedophile Allah.
However, when they incorporate “politics” under the guise of religion, that’s how they get away with their evil ancient agenda.
Qatar (run by the Muslim Brotherhood) funds universities in the UK (and everywhere else) and lots of other institutions. Money again, equals control !
Everyone likes to “distort the narrative” when it comes to Muslims. It’s not “racist” to hate their political agenda which includes rapes, child marriages, multiple wives, killings (and particularly gays, Christian’s and Jews) beatings, beheadings and the slavery of women.
With our countries allowing open borders, we can see numbers increasing at an alarming rate! We know it’s basically for Labour votes, which means they’ll never get voted out and will continue with their Fabian Society agenda!
Not only do we need to worry about illegals and extremists, we should also be “extremely concerned and worried” with these AI data centres. The size of land they take up, noise levels , water, electricity, diesel, thermal, battery use (not to mention lithium, copper and rare earth elements) are absolutely alarming. So far, there has already been a decrease in trees, plants, bees, birds, the monarch butterfly and lots of other inhabitants who have to find new habitat. No one even knew these were even being built with such speed and gusto and all without full public knowledge or public approval. We didn’t vote for all this !! They have lied to us, yet again! We didn’t vote for open borders either!!!
Anyone who doesn’t agree or has opinions with the current trajectory get bumped off, murdered, gaoled or silenced. Notice how many platforms on the internet are being monitored and taken down.
Call it a socialism, communism or a mix, our Govts are lying about everything!
Ps Mr Bubbles’ physio is a Muslim woman and we get on extremely well. She left Pakistan to get away from “harassment” from men. She loves it here !
Dear Wiser Now and Contagious,
They are on a mission ! It’s all about the extremists and radicals “theological” plans to defeat the west and the final apocalyptic battles of the end, believing Allah’s fulfilment of His divine plan on earth and the final judgement, culminating in the absolute sovereignty of Allah over human governance.
“Beware” of the number of mosques being built, praying in the streets and the call to prayer! Using their “religion” as a “political” strategy, very strategic …..its worked !!!
The number of “fighting” men coming into our counties says it all, they’re only the ones we see, the rest will come out of hiding!
Why have our western governments allowed this ? The only conclusion I’ve come up with is “money”!
Thoughts ?
@Bubbles
I agree with you, the problem is the Islamic ideologies and how they have and can be applied and interpreted. There is so much room within the religious texts to form an oppressive government. The government becomes tired to the religion so that if you question the government you’re automatically deemed Kuffar.
Somalia was going to increase the age of marriage to 18 but didn’t because of pressure from religious leaders who said it was un-Islamic as islam doesn’t have an age of consent – it goes by whether a child has started puberty and permission is granted by the father for marriage. Depending on how it’s interpreted the child doesn’t even have to have started puberty for marriage, however can only be raped by penetration after starting puberty however sexual touching could still take place.
All types of abuses can potentially be justified.
child marriage is implied in the Quran even though many Muslims do not know that.
And you’re right sexual slavery is justified in the Quran even though many Muslims do not know that either.
Most Muslims cannot read Arabic and therefore could not read tafsir from any scholars until recently where some have been translated into English from the 2000’s.
I had this debate with a Muslim online who tried to say that you don’t need scholars to read Quran or to be Muslim although every Islamic website says otherwise and states not to interpret Quran yourself.
I honestly think the UK should ban the face veil though. I used to be against banning it when it was rare to see, but now I’m seeing women wearing it more often, ban it!
I think at this point hard lines should be drawn on certain things. extremist Islamic regimes rules women covering their faces. In my opinion you would only wear it to rebel against what we stand for here. It’s taking the piss
@Witch,
Great comment. I want to copy it and put it on every social media platform and news platform available in the US. We have a lot standing against it but not as hard as we need to be and there are those who are for it also, because they do not understand the truth. Thank you for writing this.
Hi Bubbles,
Agree 100%. And add, in the US anyway, Flock cameras. An unconstitutional intrusion into our lives. We are fighting what feels at times a losing battle to keep our freedom, safety and privacy. I’ve “enjoyed” reading your perspective on these things, Witchs also. I an going to look for Citizen Vigilante, it sounds interesting.
Dear Witch,
A British Citizen Award was awarded to Khadija Patel wearing a “Niqab” (only eyes exposed) in the Palace of Westminster. WT??? It’s ironic to have their picture taken, what’s the point ?
They are literally mocking us, laughing in our faces and taking the piss !
The wearing of “Burkas” (full body covering) in public, is mandated by the Taliban. They will blame the male if she doesn’t comply. The other coverings are the Hijab, Chador and Burka.
Muslim men have issues with other Muslim men purving on their women because they can’t control their sexual urges. They view women as “it’s”, like an animal! Women are there to have children, stay home and be their slaves !
I totally agree Witch, face coverings should be banned and are a threat because human communication relies on facial expressions.
Why flee these barbaric countries along with their barbaric practices and come to a democratic country and still continue doing it, unless it’s with ill intent. They should fit in with us, not us with them. If they don’t like it, go back home. They only have 57 countries to choose from…..oh wait, they want more !!!
The way we’re headed, we will all be wearing them if we don’t stand up!
@A Victor
I cant stand the super liberals that blame white people for everything and act like everyone else is just a victim… is it white peoples fault that Somali uncles were crying on social media over the possibility of not being able to marry a child?
@Bubbles
I don’t know what the UK is thinking… maybe they feel so guilty for how they treated Jews historically, they are willing to destroy their own nation with Islam now.
We had a Green Party councillor shouting “allahu Akbar” in a speech, this is confidence that the UK is giving nutters
Dear Witch,
Marlon West was suspended from the NMC (Nursing Midwifery Council) after 30 yrs because of his social media posts about the raping of his daughter by Pakistani gangs. The paper reported it before he even knew he was suspended. He’s running for Greater Manchester Mayor. They want to suppress his story and don’t give a “flying duck” about his daughter because it’s all about protecting these “ethnic” barbarian degenerates. He’s not going to stop speaking out and will still run for Mayor. Let’s watch and see what the “powers that be” continue do to him and his daughter.
The Green Party councillor whom you speak of, is an absolute traitor!
And everyone says Hitler was evil, look what’s going on world wide!
From my perspective, this incorporates all the elements of narcissism, psychopaths, pure unadulterated evil, dark triad, you name it ! The amount of gaslighting, lack of moral conscience, blame shifting, reality distortion, exploitation, defensiveness, manipulative behaviour, deceit, lying, avoidance, lack of accountability and everything else that falls under Mr Tudor’s realm is certainly at play here. I’m positive we would all appreciate some clarification and an explanation of what we are dealing with because this is massive and affects us all.
I hope HG lives forever and stays with us FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As soon as the tech boffins finalise the downloading of my consciousness your hope will be realised.
🎉🎉🎉
Dear Mr Tudor,
It’s so reassuring to know the EU have met with the Taliban in Brussels to actually make deals with these terrorists. Never fear, they’ll beheading back home soon.
I didn’t know Starmer had a doppelgänger, only this one wears polo shirts haha
What say you Mr Tudor ?
It’s good to see you here, HG, after a short absence. Hope all is well with you.
By the way, has your YouTube channel been re-monetised yet?
No.
That’s crazy
I’m sorry to hear that, HG.
The information you provide on your YouTube channel is accurate, helpful and very much needed in the world.
Thank you.
Is there any one person we can appeal to? I feel a specific person with authority might help you…
i founda muddy crystal ball
down by the waterside,
i spat on’t & buffed & scried:
‘will HG be remonetised?’
it cleared its glassy throat & croaked:
‘i’ve seen the future nigh –
i don’t know how to rhyme the rest –
so for efficiency it’s YES …
or for sake of couplets: AYE’
Very clever, Mari, and funny.
Ooh I say, thank you WN. I was just being daft & impulsive, you know 😀
Dear Mr Tudor,
1) Azealia Banks (rapper)
Re Stephen Ogilvie Belfast victim
Her comment on X
“Sheeesh, this motherf…..is so ugly, I think the Sudanese did him a favour”….then added
“Wow, this motherf….is ugly “
Human behaviour is now beyond disgusting !!!!
2) In Australia, we have various political parties, the main two are Labour and Liberal. We have another smaller party “One Nation” (which has superseded Labour in popularity) similar to Reform UK and Restore Britain. One Nation just had a fundraiser event which was bombarded with (well paid) protestors and had to be relocated because of horrible chants and a sign “Death to One (crossed out) this Nation” Guess who got apprehended , a “white” lad supporting One Nation, did absolutely nothing wrong. If you’re “white” and “patriotic”, you are not safe !
Where is our notorious Labour PM on “hate” speech …….what was his response, the sound of crickets? ……again !!!!
3) The humanoid robot (Figure 03) walking with Melanie Trump to open the White House Global Summit, WTH ????
UK and Europe are on the cusp of Phase 4 ! America is going down as well !
This is getting sicker each day. You literally can’t make this insanity up !!!
Slow subliminal psycho psyop well n truly implemented. Wake up everyone, this is not a drill or a dress rehearsal ! Our taxpaying money being poured into immigration and other countries is absolutely insane !
From my empathic perception, this is way beyond evil. Your democracy and freedom of speech is being slowing eliminated. History will be replaced, along with books (my bad, that’s been done before) with AI.
Anarco-tyranny !!!
Ps almost forgot, they want to block out the sun with geo engineering and Google’s parent company Alphabet is seeking approval to release 32 million mosquitoes in California and Florida. Bill Gates (another psycho) backed biotechnology firm Oxitec, has released hundreds of millions of GM mosquitoes in other areas. As if nothing could go wrong 😑
What say you Mr Tudor ?
Dear Mr Tudor,
Louis, a white 17 year old male (“ward of the state” under the care of France’s child social assistance programme) from Narbonne, France was beaten to a pulp by 5 North African migrants. Louis died in hospital three days later, after being in an induced coma. One 16 yo, two 17 yos, one 18 yo and one 19 yo. All premeditated because these savages had attacked him a week prior and poor Louis did the right thing and reported to the police.
What makes this even more sickening, these depraved savages even filmed it.
Absolutely barbaric! So much for the child social assistance programme designed to protect minors. !?!?!
Who’s next ?
This seriously has to stop ! It’s getting worse !
What say you Mr Tudor ?
Hi Bubbles,
That’s horrific about 17-year-old Louis. What on earth is happening with people, especially teens and young people?
The news in general has been so heavy lately. It seems that every time I listen, there’s something happening that’s even more shocking or tragic or difficult than the day before.
It leaves me feeling hopeless and helpless, and also heavy as though there is a weight bearing down. I wonder if that’s how other people feel as well.
Surely, there must be ways for things to improve?
Dear WiserNow,
There are those that live in their own little bubble world and don’t want to know or just reject the concept. Me, on the other hand have always asked questions (empaths have inquisitive minds) Haha
I wrote to our PM in 2013 regarding the immigration influx and what “the immigrants” agenda was (they said it loud and clear back then) and they “politely” replied, I was “racist” haha
I also wrote to the GG after the Bondi terrorist attack stating I had “no confidence” in our current PM and govt…….again, sounds of silence and crickets! Not surprising as our GG was handpicked by our snake of an PM.
I’ve been in two “Ausssie” marches supporting our country. I will continue to fight for freedom, democracy and for the future of our kids.
I’m saddened to say, things won’t improve unless we get rid of our current governments and bring back common sense and normality.
These “extremists” have to go !!!! They are already showing their strength by their numbers, believe them !!!
We, the people, need to unite and stand firm against this archaic regime and claim our countries back !!!
Hello dear Bubbles:
Hope Mr Bubbles is doing well.
Elon Musk says that there is “ suicidal empathy” regarding mass migration and who supports Tommy Robinson. The argument is assimilation. I AGREE. Peaceful or not …. the argument is Islam theology. Europe has had both successes and failures. I think the issue is not who are there but who you want there. Countries can decide on that. And countries that mistreat women and children and who are not democratic should be considered on the basis of ENTRY. I don’t care what the religion. If you enter a country you must respect the laws! If you want to move then your women are to be treated equal. Sharia law has no place. Trump has banned countries who don’t. I agree. It’s sad as there are people there who enter or want to enter who are not like their government but our country must protect our women and children. You move here- women have equal protection under the law. Disagree. Leave or be forced to leave. I think the world is sick of people who enter under countries with western laws that don’t assimilate. You don’t hear about Hindus committing sex crimes against women and they are a huge religious group. Ever here of Shintos? Buddhists? Sorry…but it is obvious no democratic misogynistic countries especially those who claim jihad against us, don’t belong. You want here. Change and assimilate to countries that respect women and children. So yes, Bubbles, I agreee. Where I disagree is there remains who are law abiding, assimilated fully and in a country over generations. I fear for them. They don’t deserve it by being kind, loving, respectful citizens who have contributed to the country over generation.
X
Dear Contagious,
Thank you lovely, I’m on the same page as you. The big question everyone is asking, is WHY ?
Here’s a new fun fact to add to all this :-
Hamtramck, Michigan Council approved (under America’s First Amendment regarding religious beliefs) the slaughtering of a sheep, goat or lamb in one’s own backyard for Eid-al-Adha .
They can also do it for the birth of a girl (one animal) for boys (two animals) and another occasion, to give thanks to their god.
That also includes cows, domestic fowl, llamas and outdoor rabbits.
Slice n dice, one would say, in front of their kids in their own suburban backyards. WT???
Hmmm, smell the barbie next door!
Second fun fact:-
In England and Wales
40,000 prisoners have been released early since 2024 because prisons were too overcrowded and now they are going to release an extra 6,000 (killers, rapists and sex offenders) from September 2026. Plus all the immigrants committing carnage!
This is the biggest insult and injustice to all the victims and society at large!
We are absolutely committing suicidal empathy and our govts are deliberating lying and don’t give a damn about us !
What a sick, twisted, greedy, psycho world we live in now.
Narcissists seem tame in comparison!
Dear Contagious,
Another day and another rape or death, now it’s a 2 year old girl from Surrey, England, raped and murdered by an African migrant. What the frickn hell ????
There’s “talk” of the govt in the UK paying you £350-600 per month to house a migrant/s, more like deranged illiterate sub humans who want to kill you.
Whilst all the while, corrupt evil rich “hierarchy” sit back and watch …. satanical psychopaths !
Enough is enough, we’re all sick of this !
What say you Mr Tudor ?
Bubbles : ever notice the lack of women in the debate. Women are EQUAL in our western countries. Our girls Are EQUAL. Don’t like it. Get OUT! We have had years of changing our laws with our own western men. We don’t need non- democratic, sexist assholes coming into our countries to demonstrate they still repress their women and girls under the name of freedom of religion and then maybe rape and kill them under the name of sharia law. Do women have issues now? Yes. We don’t need more and not from religion that condones it. That’s my take
Dear Contagious,
Now that you mention it. There was a peaceful (however powerful and showing dominance)procession (approx 1,000 Shia Muslims) in the streets of Adelaide South Australia last Friday. Lead by Muslim men of course (and their small sons) whilst their women n kids (girls) separated and trailing at the back (as per usual), with loudspeakers blaring and signs saying “Hussain stood for humanity” this demonstration was all about the legacy of Husayn ibn Ali (the grandson of the Prophet Muhammad), who sacrificed his life in 680CE at the battle of Karbala rather than submit to tyrannical ruler. His stand represents the ultimate defence of justice, human dignity and resistance against oppression. The majority of women in this parade were all covered head to toe, except for the face along with lots and lots of burkas.
Please explain how this makes any sense, when you live in a “supposedly” democratic and free country ? Sharia Law is the total opposite to our western laws and values. Should be banned !
Our female rights have been ridiculed and taken away by cocks in frocks!
Have you heard of the paid reproductive health leave being debated in our Parliament ? Aussie “employees” would get paid time off to manage menstruation, menopause and other reproductive conditions. There is no cash payment or direct govt handout, it’s a new form of paid leave. Whilst this is great for “real women”, guess who’s going to take advantage and manipulate this to the fullest ? 🧔♀️
🤦♀️
I rest my case !
Dear Bubbles:
I have no words…. Sadly
Hello Dear Bubbles:
I had not learned of this so thank you….and sadly I barely have time to keep up with my own countries rules.
But I firmly believe that if women are not respected, valued or considered equal, it creates an unhealthy balance in society and a negative impact on the future and future generations!
Ps Hope Mr. Bubbles is feeling better;) hugs!
Dear Contagious,
I have only just today, finished reading the 219 pages of the independent Rape Gang Enquiry Report, spearheaded and chaired by MP Rupert Lowe and overseen by survivor Sammy Woodhouse.
It is horrifically mind blowing! All those who conspired and were complicit, should be held accountable and made to pay.
This “foreign entity” that has been allowed to invade our countries, view females of any age, without respect, they are not valued or considered equal and if they don’t “deport the lot” along with their massive “negative impact”, there will NOT be a future or future generations !
PS Mr Bubbles is being prepped to come home, hopefully in a couple of weeks. We are all so happy, it’s been a long 4 months!
Thank you for your kind thoughts Contagious 🫶
Dearest Bubbles!
So happy to hear the good news about Mr. Bubbles! May he live a healthy life with you for many years! Bless you both! X
Hello HG,
if the narc boss mocks /provocate me in front of many different collegues and my response is evasive and cold (cold eyes, cold voice– very passive aggressive and full of hidden hate) what could be the interpretation in the mind of the narc boss?
Thank you
Challenge fuel. You are providing fuel and threatening the narcissist´s innate need for control.
I would recommend that you put this person through a Narc detector to determine the type of narcissist they are and you obtain the assistance package How To Handle a Narcissist At Work.