Why Does He Seem So Odd?


It is accurate to state that we operate in three essential states. There are varying degrees within those states, differing levels of intensity which are affected by factors such as the type of narcissist that we are, what we require from you, the level of empathic individual you are as well as several others. Nevertheless, there are three basic states. The first, as you would expect, is the golden setting. We are at our most wonderful, most brilliant and most loving when in this state. This always appears during our seduction of you and we will reinstate it from time to time and often when we hoover you in order to suck you back in and keep you hanging on to us. The second is the dark setting when we instigate our devaluation of you. This dark setting allows us to deploy our various machinations against you, a variety of different of manipulations as the abuse begins and we make your life particularly unpleasant. This requires effort and energy on our part and whilst we will be rewarded with fuel, a certain degree of application is required to use these manipulations against you. When we unveil our dark setting it is upsetting and confusing but often you will find some reason to explain our behaviour. It is usually the wrong reason but you will find one nevertheless as you like to understand and have a reason to explain why someone is behaving in a certain way towards you – you decide we are stressed, tired, hungover, in need of affection or perhaps you are unduly harsh on yourselves so that you, in that usual empathic manner, blame yourself for the behaviour we have meted out against you. Perhaps you did not listen when you ought to have done, perhaps you should have realised that we wanted to go out tonight, or that we would not want chicken for a second time this week.

There is a third setting and this often proves more confusing that our unpleasant dark setting. This setting might be regarded as a neutral setting, somewhere between the golden and the dark, but it is not. This setting is on the road to the dark setting and is closer to that than the golden. This particular setting is the stranger setting.

There will be times when we do not wish to apply considerable energy to our continued devaluation of you, but the devaluation must continue. It may not be as harsh, since there is no shouting, no violence, no insults and such like. It is not the golden period because we show no affection, we do not do things for you and we do not exhibit any of the charm that once flowed so readily from us. During this stranger setting we are neither wonderful nor awful but we behave like someone who doesn’t really know you and you are certainly left feeling like you are dealing with somebody else.

If you telephone us we will not dole out a silent treatment and ignore your repeated calls. We will not answer in less than a ring and speak to you with affection and enthusiasm, instead we answer and engage in a monosyllabic conversation. It is like drawing teeth. We confirm that nothing is wrong and you may think there is but we have not responded angrily or harshly. We have not accused you of anything, we have not labelled you in some way but the conversation is flat. It is as if our personality, whether golden or dark has vanished and left almost an automaton in its place. We function, we talk about our day but with little detail and certainly no enthusiasm. We ask questions of you but they are polite and perfunctory as if we are just going through the motions. There is no nastiness, no backbiting or sneering. It is difficult to process because it is not nothing, that cannot be the case because we are talking to you, but it feels like nothing.

We may call around to see you but it feels like an inspector has called around. We sit, we decline a drink that you offer us and we answer your questions without offering you anything much in return. Where has the charmer gone? Where has the monster gone? Who is this stranger that looks like us, sounds like us but is not behaving like us? You cannot accuse us of being unpleasant but it feels unpleasant because you are dealing with someone you do not recognise. Any questions about what is wrong with us are politely answered and you are assured there is not a problem, but we seem lifeless. You flatter us, compliment us and whilst we accept them there is no spark of interest, there is no response.

Why are we like this? Why is this being done? Why do we seem like someone else? It is as if we have been abducted by aliens in the night and replaced with a robot which is neither wonderful nor savage but is frustratingly something else. This third setting occurs during the devaluation period. It is not a respite from devaluation as that is the golden setting once more. It is clearly not the dark setting as that is the rolling out of nastiness and abuse. This third setting is an indicator of the calm before the storm. Whilst there are occasions where we might switch from golden to dark setting in the blink of an eye, this third setting is used when we wish to conserve energy in readiness for unleashing a particular savage next stage in the devaluation as we will move to the dark setting and crank it up to eleven. You are not cruising along being driven by fair winds, nor are you being thrown up and down buffeted by a storm, instead you are becalmed or moved along by a weak breeze. This is the time we are girding our loins, gathering information and plotting. The switch of functions to the organisation and scheming of what is to come, along with the intense outpouring of energy required to sustain the vicious intensifying of this devaluation means we adopt this near automatic state. You may not ever see this happen dependent on the nature of the narcissist you have become entangled with, but when you do, you should be aware that a storm is brewing and not just any old storm but a supercell storm of savage and damaging proportions. This is a warning.

60 thoughts on “Why Does He Seem So Odd?

  1. Lisa you are welcome 🙂 May we continue in our journeys to inspire, lift and keep our wicked sense of humours to push the darkness to where it belongs, under us not part of us. A struggle, yes and daily at that but we shall continue on and we are already victorious for overcoming that- we did not arrive at this place by accident 🙂 Keep smiling!

    1. Lisa says:

      😁😀😃😄 indeed PRH, indeed!

      1. https://youtu.be/ZJL4UGSbeFg Women’s prerogative to have a little fun!

  2. Footnote: bloody_elemental
    Dribble is the key word: We know what we do but it is not our fault! At what point did it become your fault or were you never taught right from wrong? You know the difference NOW and you cannot continue to say it is not your fault. The cause may not have been your fault but it is now as you are an adult, are you not?

    1. Lisa says:

      Butting in here but yes…. They do know right from wrong. Even on the simplest things. I told the N I was fed up with all his lies and BS. Totally fed up! He said “what, why…I havent lied for about 2 weeks!!” WHAT??? What does that even mean? Id like to know all the lies he was refering to before that 2 weeks. Clearly heaps that I DIDNT know about!! SOB!

      1. They are the most abrasive of souls, Lisa! What the hell? Not like a really give a damn about the ruination of a soul that is so self-pitying and one who came here delivered into life when the cord got cut and continues to live in that distress by proxy and projection, transference of a severed cord. Like get it over it man! If they so wish to be so separate and resent their cord being cut why the heck take it out on the whole population! Boy oh boy, I know them inside out and outside in! Separation anxiety and they just can’t cut the apron strings for the mother that did not deliver them as in salvation, but birthed them by delivery! HG maybe you can expand on this and your resentment of our kind.’ Do you actually resent having to be born into the flesh to do your hours, days, months and years??? There is something deeply disturbing about your kind and you know it, you know it because you and your kind have been harping without a harp since it seems like your initial introduction to the flesh. Who the hell knows why you linger so much or crave so much, who really cares unless it affects us directly! So over immaturity and lack of human development/growth. If you could be honest for minute of your lives, you would still gain an audience because you keep whining and expressing your dissatisfaction with being born into the flesh and you keep holding everyone accountable but for your depressive state that is unhappy for being thrust forward without your say so into the flesh as a spirit. Go blame it on the most omnipotent and omnipresent and shut down your soul journey because you love to slam the door in your lack of insight and ignorance. Fact: You are spirit, soul and flesh. Fact: the triad, the three- get use to it! We and you are a just a speck of dust in the bigger picture! You and us have a number, an expiry date and all in between is here to remind you and us that there is something far greater than you or us! Get it over it and give into the control! By no coincidence are the signposts, nor are the euphoric moments, nor are the insights, premonitions, reminders and nots attached to self! Bones of my bones, flesh of my flesh, spirit of my spirit, soul of my soul! Get over it already and GROW UP! We are a speck, we are one small molecule of the greatest of the great narcissists! WE are one small fragment of spirituality and we are part of the whole! That is where holistic comes from! Forget the labels, the BS labels and all the golden periods, the crap as it’s just parroting and references we attach to our journey and that includes you too, HG Tudor! So not one of us is the Messiah, not one of us is without sin, nor shall we depart with head down and yoga position of one wrist holding up our weight in ‘downward dog,’ without feeling it! Every head shall bow and that means you too HG! Our civilisation is nothing in comparison to the TEST and to the eternal life! Pathetic and infantile attempts to try and corrupt, bignote and act superior is wasted energy and that is you too HG! We are so small compared to the big picture! You know that already so why don’t you drop the act? There is nothing in the way of zilch that it will serve in the long run! Big hugs to all that cannot cope with their cords being cut but hey you took it more emtahicll

        1. Lisa says:

          Wow full on PRH!! Are you sure you got it all out?? LOL. Well said, and with gusto t’boot. Still, I think HG Would have an answer to all you comment. He never comes up short with one. And if, just IF, they could remotly see your point of view, we wouldnt have them as a problem in our lives to begin with. They are faultless….by that I mean THEY think they can do no wrong, so why should they change, when their behaviour serves them so well. Poor boy has the mummy issues yes. No excuse from where we stand, but every excuse from where they do. Drinks tonight girl? 😉

          1. Yeah, Lisa how about I order us some cocktails! Feeling quite chuffed when sending of an ambush of texts to a narc that include the consequences should they continue to ambush my loved ones. Thus far he has become silenced and I am awaiting for the repercussions and they will come but I am armed very well and for every new strategy I have foreseen I am fully armed 😉

      2. Oh Lisa, they are what they are, babies. Mama did the wrong thing by them- in every single case. Look deeper my friend 😉

        1. Lisa says:

          PRH yes. After I wrote that comment I knew I should have been more explanitory. He lied every day of his god damned life!! That particular day, I just happened to catch him out on a beauty! Usually I couldnt keep up with them. Son of a bitch!! 😡

          1. Yes, you can Lisa, NOW. Assume everything they say is a half truth, a lie, a full blown delusion that is not worth the energy or the time to pick through. We would not buy a pack of chicken to get the parsons nose that nobody else actually wants except for those that crave the @ss end of a chook! Notice how the box is left mostly with the discarded bones and the @ss that no one wants 😉

            KFC does not do specials on bones or @ss for a reason 🙂

          2. Lisa says:

            PRH. You DO make me laugh! I find your sense of humour a sparkle in my day! 🌟

  3. In answer to your own answers about your kind: Interesting points and you have not given reason to the roots of your mindset or psyche’ as the nature vs nurture argument comes into play most boringly once again.

    Let’s discuss the trigger to the underlying behaviour and why you learned to mimic and use gestures copied and pasted from others and you would be amiss to consciously believe that your kind are undetectable because you share in so many factors of behaviour that you stand out like a sore thumb!

    We can speak of attachment theories, connectedness and bonding and still your kind knows exactly what you are doing and choose your paths one that inflicts great harm on other’s through your opportunistic mind and manipulation, dishonesty, your sense of superiority and the stinky ways that you feel so above us that perhaps it is our kind’, that possesses something you can never and I mean never obtain so you rob, thieve and take hold of what is not yours to have.

    Who were your role models and at what age precisely did you realise or were enabled to act out in such an uncontrollable manner and who made excuses for behaviours that should have been monitored and attended to by any primary caregiver unless they too, were opportunistic dishonest role-model/s?

    From my observations on your kind, there are a number of factors that you share and a good percentage comes from parenting or lack of thereof. Authoritarian households and households of low socioeconomic status are a contributing factor to covering the shame and the envy of others having what one cannot so one learns to project another image, another way of being accepted into the world and sells themselves out to belong so who is really insecure in this picture, the narcissist or an empath?

    There is nothing outstandingly uncommon about your kind because you give it away and it is your kind that deserve calling out as your conditioning for whatever root causation is not simply a question of genetics and points drastically toward the environment. You mention hell yet where in your explanations of showing your um artificial omnipotence do you mention kindness, humility or empathy, love or bonding, connect-ness where you are not central?

    There is pressure coming from all around on your kind and if you believe in your own lack of self-awareness that you cannot change then at least evolve or grow, develop the self in a way that harms not others and in a way where you show some of that self-control to dehumanise a victim to humanise yourselves!

    Meeting and treating others with the full intention of manipulating them does not even warrant a label nor does it excuse your kind from accountability when that manipulation causes undue harm and the conflict you derive gratification from. This supply notion is nothing more than a craving or uncontrolled urges to fleece another, in other words con them. How does that kind of makeup excuse you from being any different from any criminal who defrauds or robs a bank?

    There is nothing mysterious about people that treat others like sh*t and basically it is not that complicated, some people are just a**holes and feel entitled to further commit hideous self gratifying pleasure gained at the expense of the lives they chose selectively to act out against, usually their (primary supply if we must use these terms to illustrate a point).

    Your kind make an allegiance to serve self first and foremost unless you are priming another where you deliberately set out to deceive so what does that make your kind and why would you consider that your kind are exempt of the same punishments you dish out to others or that you could be incarcerated for acts that repulse society in general? You cannot get to everyone and you cannot pay off the ferryman every time as there are also enough of our kind that are wide awake and will do everything in our moral service to humanity to reveal and disclose what must be disclosed for there are consequences, consequences that somewhere along your life path for whatever reason, you believe that you can continue on such a destructive path without punitive measures touching you. That my friend is delusional and the behaviours escalate to cruel and often sadistic so being so heavily grounded and dense does not make you like empaths nor could you ever feel that your detection system can cause enough revolt in a societal sense to be non-addressed when it is the empath that has the tools to discern and the only issue I see is that your only tool is weigh on our goodness, a goodness that you cannot have and don’t have within you.

    1. B says:

      Wow that was a whole lot of judging.

      Before you judge others or claim any absolute truth, consider that you can see less than 1% of the electromagnetic spectrum and hear less than 1% of the acoustic spectrum. As you read this, you are traveling at 220 kilometres per second across the galaxy. 90% of the cells in your body carry their own microbial DNA and are not “you”. The atoms in your body are 99.9999999999999999% empty space and none of them are the ones you were born with, but they all originated in the belly of a star. Human beings have 46 chromosomes, 2 less than the common potato. The existence of the rainbow depends on the conical photoreceptors in your eyes; to animals without cones, the rainbow does not exist. So you don’t just look at a rainbow, you create it. This is pretty amazing, especially considering that all the beautiful colours you see represent less than 1% of the electromagnetic spectrum.

  4. Another designer brand tic: Stroking their hair, often! Again to take your attention off what you may be questioning or when the questions are rapid cycling through their brain. Rubbing together of the hands, less common but in ASD referred to as stimming. Using their periphery to scan what you are doing, whilst pretending to not notice you at all! Hundreds of giveaways in complete contrast to what they are not trying to show by concealing gives them away each and every time to the observer and all will be written up for the world to know!

    1. Lisa says:

      Interesting PRH. It sort of was like a ticky thing. Annoying as all hell hearing it in my ear. I used to think he was sucking in air to bolster the size of his chest or something. To make himself feel better about himself….very odd. Just glad I dont have to listen to it anymore. 🙄 Lol

      1. Another giveaway is their propensity to be loud with their hands as they speak especially around the people they want to influence! They require so much personal space and do not like being crowded to the point of using it as another in their box of weapons. Yet they are very close almost up the backsides of their extraneous supplies or targets so much so that if they were any closer they would suffocate their prey! HG won’t like these comments at all but in fairness matured adults are open to critiques. Would appreciate it HG if you would not be so controlling with my posts awaiting moderation, fair dinkum mate show some backbone! Aussie Girl here, that has experienced the worst of predators and psychopathic beings- For my sisters I will make it my life purpose to change our legislation starting with Queensland then beyond to protect our kind from extensive and traumatic abuse and to terminate the strings pulled on our system of justice by narcissists/sociopaths and psychopaths!

        1. HG Tudor says:

          You need to exhibit a degree of patience. All posts are moderated as I read them all and at times it can take some time before they appear.

          1. Tah, patience is our middle name HG until tolerance expires 😉

        2. Lisa says:

          I hear ya PRH!! He needs so much personal space its not funny!! 6’3″ of bull roar noise to boot!! Loud and obnoxious. As he walks he extends his elbows out by a damn near 12 inches, to make himself appear bigger than what he his. (He’s tall yes, but very thin). Has always thought of himself as a ‘big bloke’. Then theres the swagger. Ohhhh that pathetic swagger!! Makes me wanna puke just watching him.
          And while you are about changing the legislation PRH, go South Aus next!! I too am an Aussie girl, and yes, we DO need it! Thanks for you reply. 🙂

          1. Yeah, Lisa the elbows and curbed arms like the way a gorilla walks! Mine is short and struts around on the balls of his toes trying to rise himself up to become a good few inches taller! As he speaks his toes push down with his words when seated quite extraordinary to observe and from what I see it is because he is ready to rise up and fly off the handle at any given moment! Talk about watching a macabre dance his toes have a language all of their own (lol)! Same type of thing as using his tongue to balance when he attempts to concentrate on something slightly complex a task that actually requires thought processing!

            Go South Aus- thanks for the reply also we will get there, we must as many lives hurt. 🙂

          2. Lisa says:

            Geez PRH. Imagine the two of us out, sitting and seeing them both walk past together. Hahahaaaa. GREAT entertainment!! The gorilla comment fits perfectly!! It’s funny though…I didnt notice the arm thing till well down the track. I think now its a sign of low supply…like he’s trying to somehow demand it in his demeanour as he walks. He’s always had this other arm thing going on, where he swings them in opposite directions when he’s centre of attention. Its the strangest thing…. creepy and just do weird! (puke!) lol

          3. Chuckling about that Lisa and the possibilities! Puke yes puke come to think of it he has only puked once that I remember-that unpleasant sensation is left to us mere feeling beings! Oh no what is it with the arms and exhibitionism- Whenever we were at the beach and regardless of how many other people are around, he swims out then jumps up and down in the water for the world to see and frantically waves like a kid would to their parent when on a ride! I guess people are confused and wondering if he is drowning or perhaps out with his carer for the day as he sure does not act his age. Don’t even get me started on the silly grins and the eye glasses fetish! If I had a dollar for every time he changed and purchased spectacles (as if they are going to disguise who he is) I would have a large amount of Christmas money per year to spend!

          4. Lisa says:

            OMG PRH!!! Funny as!! The eye glass thing must be a ‘thing’ too!! Mine went and got 3 pairs!! Thought he looked sooo coool in them. I was embarassed to be seen with him. Absolutely rediculous! Point is…he never needed the freakin things in the first place! Now….its a hat fetish. That started because I needed a sun hat. He couldnt bare it. He tried on all these hats and did the ‘duck face’ thing in the mirrors at the shop. I couldnt find a table to crawl under….I reckon by now he must have a dozen of the damn things. Looks great, with the old Aussie blue singlet! Dickhead!! LMAO!

          5. I m sure there was a time when we would not think of mocking them-that was until we were given the gift of xray vision into their behaviour and it cannot be purchased at a stand of cheap glasses in the pharmacy! The lurks and perks of connecting with a narcissist gifts us in many ways! The hats lmao stacked like a bunch of turtles one on top of the other in the closet and mine has upcycled from the blue wife beater singlets. The singlets are now anything that has a place on it and are found at kmart with Colorado or places in the world- keep dreaming mate I think to myself. My main issue is that my N is very discarding and after his missiles and rockets are launched my way and end up making his efforts futile as the wrinkles and furrows in the forehead appear by doing his own brain in trying to undo mine, I often say, “This is a joke, why can’t you be alone, you are sure taking a bloody long time to discard- can you move it along mate it’s getting boring, so boring!” The rage oh boy, the purple face and tourette like profanity is out of this world!” Whilst they busy themselves walking outside like the world really gives a damn, something interesting occurred me: Example- new neighbours move across he road- sitting at my desk I hear some truck pull up, no bother don’t really care. N gaslights and out of the blue starts hissing and performing, roaring like bull for the ‘new audience’. This technique used to work once upon a time but no longer serves him as he can roar all he likes as long as it is his hostility anyone hears (so what does his brain think, that we have a right royal piece of sh*t across the road and wonders why people turn the other way then blames me for it!) Next day, he comes up with this: You embarrass yourself and I have a gutful of you, lol. In other words his conscience told him that he embarrassed himself and just as h would stub his toe and blame me it appears they have some form of panic attack or some trigger where they chose to ignore their conscience and pass it on!) So, he then tells me that I am not normal and there are people across the road that are normal and there are two couples living in the house and small children and that the old man (whom I would not even know lived there originally, don’t really care) is the father of one of the couples and he has moved out and they have taken over the house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            What the hell??? He must be a secret peeping tom!!!!!!! How does anyone obtain this much information on others through observation is bizarre and really weird because who cares that much unless they suffer from paranoia to sus out strangers and perform to take away the attention from their new move! His strategies of old are failing with every time I combat his efforts and if he keeps it up he will end up in a nursing home!!!!! He exhibits like a form of dementia in his rote attacks where he lies so much he cannot cover his bases! His mounting frustration shows as he is cracking his mind to break into my safe (brain). The glasses, are now one set without arms sitting inside the sun glasses and he has done that himself). I gather that there is nothing much wrong with his sight apart from he is like the big bad wolf, and all the better to see you with Red riding hood! Talk about up close and personal for someone who keeps as much distance between his primary supply (me) but nearly trips over himself encroaching into the lives of others like Esma Watson!

            Everything is parroted back to me and he goes around me to speak to others who speak to me and when he thinks he has something to announce like the cat who swallowed the canary, I say: Yeah, yeah whatever you are only repeating the conversation I had this morning, old news! How he hates that!

            He is like a bull in a china shop, so clumsy and fast thoughts without processing much and straight to impulse without thinking first. He stuffs things up because he is thoughtless and like a little child that gets a thought and must do it, have it straight away! No patience nor tolerance level at all! Hope that further explains their kind and I would join you anytime under the proverbial table through the embarrassing moments of this journey of looking at himself in the shopping centre glass so much that he actually walked headlong into the large sliding door once in public!!!!!!!!! I would like to allay that his black crown of glory he is so damned particular about, is thinning at the back and if he only knew he would have a tissy attack and probably paint it black where there is a large round circle of hair gone and if he would get drunk enough not to detect my presence, I would love to get a texta and place two dots and smiley face in it!!! Best wishes, Lisa!

          6. Lisa says:

            PRH. You are a funny girl! Esma Watson? Gee…I forgot about her, but yes, I see your point. Mine however (N), is a lot more covert. He loves to just sit and observe people while not saying a word or contributing to the convo. Then, of course, down the track (sometimes years even), this information comes out as ammunition in a full on attack! All just to make your head spin, and youre there trying to recall what was even said (and yes, who cares anyway?!?!). All BS!
            As far as the neighbours go, he is as nice as apple pie! Sickeningly so! Too stupid to realize they hear him ranting and raving all the time. Even in his ‘quiet’ times he’s loud, so imagine what its like when he’s off on one of his rage attacks. I refuse to engage this s**t! ! I have no problem being (gently lol) sarcastic, just to bring him down a peg or two though. Told him he wasnt as clever as he actually thinks he is once and ohhh boy….he literally stomped his foot on the ground like a 2 year old. “I am so, I am so!” Omg…
            I take my hat off to you PRH if youre still with yours. I left and got divorced (not that that has made a difference…he’s still hoovering) (waiting for papers to be served on him still).
            Good luck in finding your ‘happy moments’. I truly am glad you get some humor out of him. It must give you some comic relief and make your day somewhat easier…..hmmm or not?? 😉 PS….yeah…lets do narc coffee one day. LOL

          7. Time for a long tall black with a small splash of white Lisa 😉 Since we are both in Kangaroo outback land and we still eat, roots and leaves- we shall certainly catch up for a girly chat lol.

          8. Lisa says:


      2. bloody_elemental says:


        Are you suggesting that our kind should be rounded up and put in jail?
        I do so despise when people spew inane drivel such as that.

        The system is run by our kind. The governments, the corporations, the judicial system, hell, even law enforcement has its fair share of our kind on patrol. Our web of strings is so thick I do not believe there is a blade sharp enough on earth to slice though them.

        What do you want to do? Make it illegal to be a sociopath or psychopath? Ridiculous.

        “Many psychopaths never go to prison or any other facility,” agreed Dr. Hare. “They appear to function reasonably well–as lawyers, doctors, psychiatrists, academics, mercenaries, police officers, cult leaders, military personnel, business people, writers, artists, entertainers, and so forth–without breaking the law.” He continued, “Their intelligence, family background, social skills, and circumstances permit them to construct a facade of normalcy.”

        Statistically speaking (and I have pointed this out before) relatively few of our kind are criminals. Only 20 percent of male and female prison inmates are sociopaths. “Most psychopaths are not violent, and most violent people are not psychopaths,” according to psychologist and researcher Scott Lilienfield.

        One big difference between a sociopath and a psychopath is that it is generally accepted that psychopathy is genetic, while sociopathy is generally the result of the environment a person was brought up or raised in.

        Whether its the result genetics or environment/upbringing, it’s not our fault we are the way we are.

        Some of us are well aware that our mental makeup is drastically different from the majority. We have a sixth sense for detecting and exploiting any weakness you may have. At a very early age we learn that we can inflict mental and emotional harm on others with ease. We also learn how to detect others like us out of a crowd of normal people. Beginning in our childhood, we learn to mimic normal emotional reactions in order to blend in with society.

        Never mind all the positive attributes we possess that ensure our kind remain rooted among the top trendsetters, pioneers and go-getters in the world.

        The world if full of awful of people. Some are our kind, but statistics are clear in indicating that most….simply are not.

  5. Lisa says:

    Oh how I wish I could go into his place sneaky like…..just to look for evidence. I know I cant. But….the ‘gotcha’ moment would be priceless!! Hmmmm🤔

    1. Reading the thread, I personally don’t believe cocaine to be the reason for sniff sniff. He was a pity party and it’s surprising how many N’s sniff! To detract your attention away from observing them closely, they create types of tics to distract! They rarely get ill but continue to sniffle their way through! Also a great and convincing way to crowdsource about how run down they are trying to do their (best) for the family when in fact that is not what they are doing at all 😉

  6. Darkness Falls Again says:

    Thanks HG, he was very aggressive before hand, that just brought the worse, his death was freedom for not only me but for him to.

  7. Darkness Falls Again says:

    Yup cokehead was the first thing that came to mind Lisa as I read.
    Seen and know more then I like, he did love his stuff, white powdery stuff that is. Would love to forget more then half of what I know.
    On that note HG, it seemed to bring out the worse in him, he would become even more violent where I have seen others just get hyped up, any ideas to the why? I suspect due to what class he was has alot to do with this fact.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      It affects people in different ways – some talk nonsense over and over repeating the same point and never listening, some become more amorous but too much means non-performance, some people become aggressive and of course there is the paranoia.

      1. bethany7337 says:

        You should know.

  8. ICGB says:

    Sniffy’s a cokehead.

    a cokehead Narcalien!

    Addiction knows no bounds, age or anything.

    Send direct to voicemail.

    Robert Louis Stevenson
    Hunter S. Thompson
    Stephen King

    all cokeheads.

    1. B says:

      ICGB, You are absolutely correct in saying that addiction knows no bounds, age or anything. My best friend’s son who was also my son’s best friend/roommate died last weekend from an overdose, cocaine and prescription drugs. He was only 19 years old. A very sad thing for all involved. The crazy thing is, the first person I wanted to run to for comfort was him! The one person who wouldn’t or couldn’t comfort me. What the heck is wrong with me! It didn’t take me long to remember who he was though.

  9. Lisa says:

    And to add: does this make sense to anyone, or you HG?
    He would phone me, almost daily if we werent seeing each other. During the course of our conversations, I would notice him constantly sniffing. Yes sniffing! No cold, no alergy, just this most frustrating sniff. Like…”oh I went and bought ‘sniff’ vegetables today and ‘sniff’ had to go see ‘sniff’ John. Yeah yeah ‘sniff’, thats right”.
    Sniff sniff sniff!!!! At the time I thought it was like a body language thing, where he felt the subconscious need to suck in air to fuel his (arrogance, lies, contemp, whatever). It was the strangest thing. He only did it with me! I felt like these calls were made out of utter obligation. He always denied it of course. Any ideas?? I still wonder about that. Thanks heaps

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Cocaine addict.

      1. Lisa says:

        Wow are you serious HG? Not in a million years would I have thought drugs ( except his alcoholism ). He was always anti drugs…..or so I thought yeah?!?

        1. HG Tudor says:

          I would put money on it. The ole cocaine snuffle.

          1. Lisa says:

            Oh…my God! People have suggested drugs to me in the past. Ive always said “no….no!!!”. Because he’s in his early 60’s. Hmmm. Just did some research. Well there you go….my ‘Miss Gullibility’ lives on….or at least did. Thanks HG.

          2. HG Tudor says:

            You are welcome.

      2. Love says:

        Lisa, I get the Miss Gullibility award too. As I was reading your comment, I was thinking maybe the sniffs were him crying cause he was away from you and missed you.
        Then I read Mr. Tudor’s response and cringed at myself. Apparently I am not the hardened street smart woman I thought I was lolol.

        1. Lisa says:

          Oh nooo Love. No tears for missing me. They were saved for the latest hoover (public display and all!!).
          Evan711 yeah. Sounds like total disrespect. They do love to annoy!
          ICGB. Gee, the things ya learn. I no longer need to take his calls thank God. It was just one of those memories Ive been pondering about. Theyre usually all bad!
          Thanks for the feedback all. 😄

      3. Seduced says:

        ofcourse drug addict cocaine or amphetamine. ..that’s obvious .

    2. B says:

      An ex boyfriend of mine was addicted to nose spray and would do that sniffing thing all the time. So annoying.

      1. Lisa says:

        I know right B? I only ever noticed it over the phone though. I tried taking notice when he was on the phone to others sometimes but mostly he would walk away so I couldnt hear him. Hmmm things still adding up. Suspicious much?

      2. Evan711 says:

        Mine also did the sniffing, coughing, throat clearing, constantly.. I noticed it most when we were talking on the telephone … He seemed to blame it on a motorcycle ride or some other excuse … I thought it almost rude at times as these attacks usually happened when I was trying to explain something to him, or during serious conversations… I don’t believe it’s drugs with him but I do remember thinking that it was “odd” somehow… That he was deliberately interrupting …

      3. OakorWillow? says:

        They use nose spray because their noses dry out from snorting the cocaine.

  10. Lisa says:

    Oooo!! Yes!! So that was that?! Hmmmm. How odd yet yes, noticeable. This happened right before the disgard, which happened right before my escape. Meaning I pulled the plug first!! Wow. That must have really pissed him off. Not being able to complete his plan. The rotten scoundrel!!!

  11. Starr says:

    Not to mention the voice is hollow . The words are empty . Not negative , not positive . Not heightend or lowered. It’s as if your mind and inner layer has exited the body . Where are your thoughts during these moments ? What are you thinking ? Is it done on purpose or simply not meaning to ? Where is your head when the once loud and bubbly voice turns ice cold and robotic ?

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Plotting your downfall.

      1. Seduced says:

        triple tracking …always triple tracking ❤ aren’t You G.?

        1. HG Tudor says:

          Yes, I need to start quadruple tracking at present Seduced.

      2. Seduced says:

        oi baby.I told You many times You do need to keep up and set the bar higher every time. You can’t be more perfect than You are! ❤

      3. Seduced says:

        it meant to be DO NOT NEED apologies for the typing

  12. ICGB says:

    Abducted by aliens?

    No, I decided he *was* the alien, ha!

    So I abducted myself right away from that alien! 😀

    Much happier now, a sane, rational, fun, happy life with like people with good character strands.

    Say goodbye to the aliens; they’re just strange ~ !

  13. B says:

    I never really thought about this, but yes it did happened just as you explained. Thank you for the warning.

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