The Narcissistic Truths – No. 63


127 thoughts on “The Narcissistic Truths – No. 63

  1. Whoa did I miss the battle? Sorry I’m late. ED is from Detroit, I’m from Detroit, you guys want me to track her down and ………? *cue Momma Said Knock You Out by LL Cool J*

    1. HG Tudor says:

      The asset, Agent ABB is now in play.

      1. Mission accepted. Btw NOC list in possession. This msg will self destruct in 3, 2, ……

        1. HG Tudor says:

          This is Mission Entirely Possible though ABB.

          1. U know what I do for a living so yes it is. Now if missionary were only possible with my boss….could that statement get me disavowed?

          2. HG Tudor says:

            Stay on target.

          3. Indy says:

            Love it!

          4. NarcAngel says:

            Oh you needn’t worry- pretty sure shes LOCKED on target.
            Heyโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆwhats that on your backโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆ

          5. HG Tudor says:

            Ha ha.

  2. NarcAngel says:

    Not much chance anytime soon that I’ll be running from the arms of a Greate Elite and into the arms if a Lesser to Mid Victim. That did make me laugh more than commenters thinking that she would be bothered by labels of unethical or disrespect.
    And I thought there was some hope when on the live feed ED acknowledged publicly that she was glad to see that I really exist and am not HG as she previously believed. I guess I AM an Empath if I still have that kind of hope lol. But its not her fault, its all of our fault as per this Narcissistic Truth number 63. What an excellent example. Let the silent (and deadly) treatment begin.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      I am pleased you made that point about demonstrating that I am not you NA. I only ever post under my name. I have no need to do otherwise.

  3. superxena says:


    Hello RecoveringNarcoholic…yes you are right..but it has being going on for so long now…it is like listening to the same “record” on and on and on…it does not give me any new input anymore( it just my opinion)… But is rather annoying when the comments are so disrespectful..specially towards the owner of this site…
    For me is like “case closed”

    1. RecoveringNarcoholic says:

      I hear you, superxena. It’s especially perplexing because, unlike so many online forums I’ve seen, this one seems to be populated by people who are almost unfailingly respectful and supportive.

      1. HG Tudor says:

        That’s down to knowing what I am (whereas in a number of those forums they are run/populated by Mid Rangers who think they are empathic and turn them into shit storms as they incorrectly attack an innocent individual and others of our kind or unaware individuals jump in also) , that those who are of my kind who come here and mis-behave are identified and dealt with, the environment created is one of the exchange of information and understanding and I allow those of you who wish to, to do the fuzzy cuddly stuff and I attract of course a higher calibre of empath.

        I have no need to manipulate here whereas in other places they are run and/or populated by those who do, which is not clamped down on and people do not realise what is happening (or if they do they tend to be bullied out of the forum for speaking out).

        1. Fool me 1 Time says:

          That’s why we love you HG! Cuddles and hugs and of course kisses to you!! ๐Ÿ˜‚

          1. HG Tudor says:

            Thank you.

          2. NarcAngel says:

            Are these forums mentioned here specifically identified as dealing with narcissism or relationships in general? I dont know of any but i would like to check them out. Which names are most popular? If that doesn’t break any rules here that is.

          3. NarcAngel says:

            Haha, cuddles and hugs. I think HGs teeth just curled up into his gums. Not to mention other body parts that have taken cover.

          4. Fool Me 1 Time says:

            I know! ๐Ÿ˜ˆ๐Ÿ˜‚

        2. Windstorm2 says:

          You summed up the differences in forums very well, HG. Thank you very much for allowing our fuzzy cuddlies to one another. I certainly appreciate that!

          It is rather ironic that this site is so supportive and validating when run by an acknowledged elite narcissist, when other sites purportedly run by empaths or narc victims are so much more manipulative and unaccepting.

          But I guess that’s understandable when you consider that mid level narcissists don’t even recognize themselves. How could they help others? It very hard to learn from a teacher that doesn’t know their subject. But we sure don’t have that problem here!
          Thank you again for how you run this site and all your information!

          1. HG Tudor says:

            You are welcome.

        3. superxena says:

          I quote: “…and I allow those of you who wish to, to do the fuzzy cuddly stuff and I attract of course a higher calibre of empath.”
          ….to do the FUZZY CUDDLY STUFF……I kind of like those words in the description of what “we” sometimes do according to you HG….

      2. superxena says:

        @RecoveringNarcoholic and Twilight
        I agree with you RecoveringNarcoholic this site is most populated by respectful people.For me some comments of ED have gone to the extreme of bullying other people. And for me there goes the boundary……bullying is not acceptable ( for me) under any circumstances…even if it is under the “name of being illustrative

      3. Narc affair says:

        I love cuddley wuddleys ๐Ÿค—๐Ÿ˜

      4. RecoveringNarcoholic says:

        NarcAngel — To answer your question above, the forums I referred to were not specifically dealing with narcissism. This is the only narc forum I’ve participated in. But early in my relationship with ex-narc, I thought some of his “off” behavior had to do with his clinging to being a widower (I now know that was triangulation), so I went on a site that purported to be a support group for women dating widowers. Never have I seen such close-minded, vicious, controlling bullying! I was appalled at the damage the bitch-narc running that site was doing to women who’d come there for help.

        1. NarcAngel says:


          Ok, thanks for replying. I’ll have a look around. I just thought maybe there were a couple popular ones that stood out that people were referring to.

    2. Twilight says:


      HG has been extremely patient with her, and her disrespectfulness towards him and others here is annoying.
      She is a good example thou showing a mid in action for those that may have questions or need to visualize, easier to recognize what happened or what might be happening.
      Just my opinion.

      1. superxena says:

        Hello Twilight!
        I respect your point of view . As I answered to RecoveringNarcoholic this site is most populated by respectful people.But for me some comments of ED have gone to the extreme of bullying other people. And for me there goes the boundaryโ€ฆโ€ฆbullying is not acceptable ( for me) under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES even if it is under the โ€œname of being illustrative

        1. NarcAngel says:

          Question to the floor

          So if one said for instance:

          The next time the irritant (not anyone in particular) appeares and tries to provoke, we should exercise what we have learned here and go no contact or enact silent treatment until they engaged in behaviour the general audience acceptsโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆ

          Is that bullying?

          1. Windstorm2 says:

            Wouldn’t silent treatment be no contact here? Sounds pretty good to me. Ostracism is a type of bullying, but I don’t think that would be ostracism. The person would still be able to read and share their opinions here.

            If this person asked me a direct question that was not hurtful, I would answer, but I would ignore them otherwise. Refusing to dialog is probably the best way to prevent any abuse. Such a person will probably stop their abuse and drift away if we don’t fuel them. My opinion.

          2. superxena says:

            I think you misunderstood my comment completeley. I was talking about a certain “irritant” ( using your words) who has been very disrespectful towards some bloggers here(To Indy and Clearece for example) that I consider as bullying.
            I give you just an example here , Unfortunately I could not find any other comments but there are plenty. That is what I consider bullying..not the fact that this irritant has been put in place both by the moderator of this site and others.
            Here comes a copy and paste of one of the comments:

            “emotion detective
            JULY 6, 2017 AT 9:10 PM
            Youโ€™re a guppy Clarece. Maybe you should step aside and take care of your daughter instead of entertaining a narc.”

            These type of comments are very offensive and I personally don’t find them illustrative.
            With this,I hope the subject is clarified.

          3. NarcAngel says:

            Its you who misunderstood.

            I was really asking if I myself were to suggest those actions to others would people consider it bullying, but thanks for blowing my cover lol.

            So ramp it down feisty guppy -had nothing to do with you or your comments.

          4. superxena says:

            Ha,ha Narcangel

            1. It was a pleasure( to blow your cover)
            2. Thank you for clarifying . But I knew the comments were not meant for me.
            3. Unfortunately I cannot promise I will “ramp it down”..when I want to say something well…I just say it…
            4. Your comments give a very special “spicy ” touch to this blog. I always enjoy reading them…so keep on!!!!

          5. MLA - Clarece says:

            Hello Superxena, Twilight, and Narc Angel!
            In the past, I definitely agreed the best route with an “Irritant” is to scroll over and ignore. That’s what I plan to continue doing. The comment personally directed at me the other day taking a dirty below-the-belt pot shot at my mothering and my daughter warranted me to come back with a good F-you slap down. Now I’m back in my corner going along my merry way.
            I adore how you all rallied together. That was AWESOME! Don’t waste any more energy on it. The irritant is probably stirring up trouble elsewhere on another site as we speak to get her fix. Funnily enough her comment to me reeked of jealousy and pettiness rather than me feeling bullied. Sorry that I was bringing discussion to the table that HG found interesting to engage in rather than have to say for the hundredth time it’s delusional. Lol

          6. superxena says:

            Hello Clarece!
            Good to hear that you can “shake it off”. I have always liked your comments and I think your participation on this blog is VERY valuable!! Best wishes!

          7. superxena says:

            And just let me add,,that if she has been put in place by HG and others is well deserved of her..she can’t continue bullying and offending people around

          8. Indy says:

            For those irritants that have proven to be verbally abusive on the blog, I do not think NC is bullying. It’s prudent.

            Let’s not forget, part of abuse recovery is drawing boundaries we never had before and practicing boundary making.

            One has to be explicit in what those boundaries are, say them out loud.

            Then give no attention.

            Otherwise, people may not know what is happening.

            It’s important to document and demonstrate when abuse is occurring. Some do not know what verbal abuse and verbal Manipulation looks like and it needs pointing out.

            This is really vital for newbies to this site and those still practicing on how to identify true verbal abuse and true smearing. This is where we practice for real life.

            Sure, the particular irritant is just that, of no importance, our self respect is priceless.

      2. Twilight says:

        Hi Superxena

        Thank you. I did some reflecting on your comment and some of my own.
        Anger was starting to reflect in some of mine.

        1. NarcAngel says:


          She doesnt know what she is but she is getting what she needs everytime someone addresses her. I have done this previously also. I have no issue when she is respectful or has something for intelligent debate but as soon as her meds wear off and the delusion surfaces I will go silent. To her. We all know Im not going silent lol.

        2. superxena says:

          Hello Twilight!
          I understand that you are having feelings of anger !!

      3. Twilight says:

        Superxena, Narc Angel , Clarece and Indy

        Sorry for this late reply

        NA I know what she is, I have for a longtime why I came at her to debate her “super empath” status. She refused but went on to engage with Indy and the Doc on her opinions. Silent ah hell nope I will engage only when facts are needed. Other then that I have no need to engage with her.

        Clarece you shine with a brilliance and the love you have for your child is very evedent. Anyone that insinuates your a “bad” mother is showing how foolish they are.

        Indy your words of wisdom are touching and insightful!

        Superxena your questions you poise to HG and comments to others show what an intelligent and amazing woman you are.
        you helped me reign in my anger I have towards bullying, I prefer facts in these situations and not emotion.

        I stand in awe at the magnificent women that are here!

        HG you do attract a high caliber of empath and those that have not reached that point are growing under your tutelage!
        To you I bow my head, Min lรธgn.

        1. superxena says:

          Thank you very much for your kind words! I am as well amazed by the participants of this blog, being the majority respectful people, eager to learn and with amazing values.
          This blog ( which is being perfectly moderated) contains just about everything. I have not experienced a blog that is so educating and that has such dynamics as this!
          You are a very caring ,strong woman with great ,great values!
          Your words really moved me…Thank you!
          Best wishes!!!

          1. HG Tudor says:

            HG approves.

          2. superxena says:

            Thank you HG! You are doing a great job here…you know that but I think it is important to write it down here…

          3. HG Tudor says:

            Thank you.

          4. superxena says:

            Your welcome HG.

          5. Twilight says:


            Thank you I appreciate what you said. By now I would have been kicked out of whatever group I was in. My views and many admins don’t agree.
            I agree with you completely about this blog, HG is doing a job I don’t believe just anyone could do and make it work.

          6. superxena says:

            Hello Twilight!
            Your welcome! Awakening polemics is good, especially in this type of forum…I do not think you would be kicked out by expressing your opinion. By the way do you speak danish? I noticed your ” signature” Min lรธgn” on your comment!

          7. Twilight says:

            Hi Superxena

            No I do not consider I speak the language, many in my family do thou.
            I was being impulsive at that moment and running with my thoughts.

          8. superxena says:

            Hello Twilight!
            I understand and I recognised the language..very similar to mine..!

  4. Cโ˜… says:

    guess i missed something here with HG & ED?

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Not really.

      1. superxena says:

        HG…You have been VERY patient with ED for a long time…but this has gone too far.. It is not ok the way ED has disrespected not just you but many other bloggers here . It is clear that she is a very unstable person with clear deep mental issues…..Unfortunately she is actually a lost case…

        1. Indy says:


          1. superxena says:

            Yes it is Indy! You got some questions from me on another post!!! Would be interesting to know your answers!! Hope you got them…

      2. foolme1time says:

        HG, aren’t you all giving her exactly what she wants? โ›ฝ๏ธ! You’ve trained us all very well! Usually on this blog the only thing that can get us going is someone being disrespectful to you! To someone like you the fuel on the blog isn’t very much, but to a mid ranger or less it may supply a good bit, especially with so many of us responding! Have a good evening everyone! ๐Ÿบ

      3. RecoveringNarcoholic says:

        Superxena — couldn’t agree more. Although her posts do provide a great example of word salad.

  5. Narc affair says:

    Never accountable and always passing the blame. Im sorry i was wrong youll never hear.

  6. Kevin lampley says:

    My train of thought exactly.

  7. emotion detective says:

    It was all your fault, it still is.
    I think your superiority has been threatened by me. And people on this blog other than your lieutenants and a couple jealous ladies, like me. I’ve been told so during the live chat.
    It was quite evident during the livestream how you circled around my repeated questions, like a shark, answering the previous and the following question, blatantly skipping mine, twice.
    It was evident for all to see, cause your voice changed every time you see me post a comment or question.
    There you go.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Thanks for the entertainment. I enjoyed laughing at your comment. Let’s see:-

      1. Deluded.
      2. Sense of entitlement.
      3. Self-aggrandizement.

      Yes all there in your post. Add in the delusion, deflection, denial, blame-shifting and projection that has been witnessed in many of your other posts and the picture is clear. Add to that I know plenty about your behaviour elsewhere. Many people on this blog do not like you because of the behaviour you have engaged in. You had politely been given repeated opportunities to explain points you had made with reference to supporting facts. Not only did you fail to do so, you engaged in the behaviours detailed above culminating in an unprovoked and groundless attack on Indy, which only underlined the points. Many people agree with Indy’s observations, soOf course, I know you are incapable of appreciating this but it is necessary to state as a matter of record.

      1. emotion detective says:

        I knew you would take the opportunity to lash out at me in public again. Being brutal towards me is what you do lately.
        Elsewhere? Where is the elsewhere at? Care to expand on that? Does that mean you support the smear campaign against the therapist, and myself?

        1. HG Tudor says:

          I am not lashing out, you are not important enough to warrant it. I will however correct your inaccuracies. The elsewhere is across a variety of platforms and as a consequence of my own due diligence which has been thorough.

          Your attempt at deflection and pity play by suggesting there is a smear campaign against you by other parties is predictable. There is no such smear campaign, although I know why you see it that way. I have responded to your inaccuracies for the benefit of the readers, but I will not allow this place to become a platform for the behaviour you have engaged in elsewhere.

      2. Dr. Harleen Quinzel PsyD says:

        Emotion Detective,

        Serious question:

        Why have you been attacking HG?

        … and on HIS blog…

        I’m just a little baffled by this…

        Your responses bounce back and forth from positive to negative when you mention HG.

        1. emotion detective says:

          I’m not attacking him, I’m giving him what he wants: fuel.
          What baffles me is the need some empaths have to defend a narcissist against an Empath. Care to explain?

          1. HG Tudor says:

            Tertiary source remember.
            Your second sentence indeed shows why you are baffled but not for the reason you think.

          2. MLA - Clarece says:


          3. emotion detective says:

            You’re a guppy Clarece. Maybe you should step aside and take care of your daughter instead of entertaining a narc.

          4. MLA - Clarece says:

            I do both outstandingly well. Thanks for playing though!

          5. emotion detective says:

            You know what a guppy is? It’s an empath who knows what a narcissist is and then goes on to cluelessly defend his actions.
            Just don’t run back to me crying later on.

          6. MLA - Clarece says:

            Wrong again ED.

            “The guppy, also known as millionfish and rainbow fish, is one of the world’s most widely distributed tropical fish, and one of the most popular freshwater aquarium fish species.” Wikipedia
            Sorry to do a quick cut and paste on what a guppy really is, but I’m with my daughter right now after work and camp making a goodbye gift basket for a classmate friend of hers moving away. Priorities ya know…

          7. Windstorm2 says:

            And an aquarium full of fantail guppies is quite mesmerizing…

          8. MLA - Clarece says:

            Wikipedia says their popular, so there is that…

          9. Indy says:

            Remember that time you offered to talk to me when I want to engage? Doing the same for you, sister! You can do the same for me. Time to starve the sharks! We know you are a fabulous mother! There is power in schools of fish too!!! They often outsmart the sharks when in groups! ๐ŸŒŠ๐Ÿ ๐ŸŸ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿฌ

          10. MLA - Clarece says:

            Hellooo Indy! More than happy to swim, I mean talk with you!
            I have Dory’s song in my head from “Finding Nemo”. What do you do when life gets you down? Just keep swimmin, swimmin, swimmin…

          11. MLA - Clarece says:

            Aarrgghh, I was compelled to respond one final time, Indy. #Igottheguppyblues

          12. emotion detective says:

            Here is a playlist for you on guppies:

            You posted comments to me, just remember before you say I’m attacking you.

          13. Indy says:


            What you are doing here is bullying MLA by referring to her as a “guppy” in a demeaning manner rather than responding to the issue at hand that is brought up, you abuse of others verbally on this blog. Period.

            You label people narcissists and now guppies. You just deflected rather than owned your behavior. Is that what super empaths do? Verbally abuse others? Name calling and labeling in a derogatory manner is abuse. Additionally, you are not qualified to label diagnoses either. Remember calling me a narcissist? Yeah. No mental health credentials, sorry, “no soup for you”.

            Interesting that you post a video of the very woman you are targeting on your personal website as being a “greater narcissist” and smearing.

            Further, there is a lot of shaming language in this clip, referring to women that fall for narcissists as “stupid” and “not bright”.

            Yeah, that helps survivors a lot, ED, let’s shame them and label them!

            I see you, right through you.

          14. MLA - Clarece says:

            Wow Indy! Is that what the video was? I’m glad I didn’t lose any valuable time watching. Now I can keep having my interesting and entertaining conversations with HG and all of you nice people. And even make breakfast for my daughter and me. I must be crazy talented to be able to do both. Lol
            Thank you Indy! Hugs!

          15. Indy says:

            MLA, Hugs Back ๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿผโค๏ธ

          16. MLA - Clarece says:

            1) The link led me to “video unavailable.” There’s 20 seconds of my life I’ll never get back.
            2) All I pointed out earlier is that HG derives no fuel with what you offer in your type of comments on the blog and has said so repeatedly…for months. There was no name calling on my part.
            3) You came gunning for me calling me the guppy and questioning my parenting skills. (Classless)
            4) At this point, I’ll own it. Call me Guppy #1. You’re coming across petty and jealous with HG engaging in a lot of conversation this week on my comments rather than responding that the remarks are delusional. Deal. With. It.
            (Note to HG: You won’t have to moderate any more comments for this thread. I’m done).

      3. Dr. Harleen Quinzel PsyD says:

        Emotion detective,

        Couldn’t you just write HG an email instead of publically trying to attack him on HIS blog?

        It’s honestly straight up disrespectful ….

      4. Dr. Harleen Quinzel PsyD says:

        Emotion detective,

        You are setting yourself up to be called out publicly – you must realize that on some level.

        If you don’t wish to be addressed publicly thn I suggest you email HG and address whatever issues you are having that way – not on HIS blog in an attempt to gain attention or provoke him into some response to make him look bad.

        There is no chance in hell your message will be well received the way you are delivering it.

        Anybody who is addressed in the way in which you have addressed people here will eventually defend themselves because it gets annoying.

        I won’t even go into how you make claims and put ‘information’ out there that isn’t supported by any research and you won’t state what you do.

        You continue to blow shit out of your ass.

        I still stand by it is wrong to throw inaccurate information out there – it’s unethical.

      5. Dr. Harleen Quinzel PsyD says:


        I laughed…

        As if you care enough to smear her…

        You’re a fucking psychopath – you wouldn’t put any energy into that. That would require you do give a shit lol!

      6. Dr. Harleen Quinzel PsyD says:

        Note to self lol…

        Don’t write blog posts when I’m half conscious (damn sleep inertia) – can’t speak, spell or complete a coherent thought lmao ๐Ÿ˜‚…

        I just saw that post and couldn’t help myself…

      7. MLA - Clarece says:

        There’s that “robust” rebuttal we’ve been waiting for.

      8. Twilight says:

        DR Quinzel

        I have a serious dislike of midrangers.

      9. Dr. Harleen Quinzel PsyD says:


        Omg you read my mind lol!


      10. Dr. Harleen Quinzel PsyD says:

        Emotion detective,

        You remind me of my ex boyfriend – that’s why.

        He’s a mid ranger ….

        Need I say more.

        HG didn’t do anything wrong.

        I call it like I see it.

      11. Dr. Harleen Quinzel PsyD says:

        Emotion detective,

        In the past I have asked you direct questions – you have never given me direct answers.

        You evade every simple question.

      12. Dr. Harleen Quinzel PsyD says:



        “I’m just giving him what he wants…”

        “I’m just….”

        “All I’m doing is just….”

        A shining example of why I would take a greater over a mid ranger any day…

        Gimme a psychopath any day over this bullshit….

      13. Dr. Harleen Quinzel PsyD says:

        Emotional detective attacks him and then goes huh? What did I do? What do you mean? I was only just..

        Keep rationalizing

        Maybe you will start to believe what you are saying…

        Yes say it over and over again…..

        Own your behavior….


      14. emotion detective says:

        I am waiting for your plausible info you have on me. You have nothing.
        I’m still baffled how empaths are capable of defending a psychopath against an empath.
        It’s your idea that an empath is weak and stupid that is your blind spot, among others. An empath is the strong and courageous one, you’re the one who is weak.

      15. Twilight says:


        Your truth and OUR truth are very different, you have repeatedly shown this from being disrespectful to others here to out and out falsely claiming HG attacks you for fuel, from sending his tertiary source IPPS (which there is no such thing) to being fearful of coming back here because you exposed a greater (which is laughable sense HG is upfront in what he is). To making it look like you two know each other, going by a comment of another new person asking if you were his IPPS.
        Your so blind and trying to lead others in this blind crusade of yours.
        I am not sure if pity is what I feel for you or just plain disgust.

        Sorry HG my empathy and patience left a long time ago with her.

      16. Dr. Harleen Quinzel PsyD says:

        Twilight….drops the mic


      17. Narc affair says:

        Emotion detective…its so clearly obvious whats going on here. Youre in a fantasy world and you think/hope HG is interested in you. It reminds me of stalker type behaviour. Youre fixated and want attention from the object of your infatuation HG. Its scary behavior to think this way. Hopefully you can talk to a therapist bc its not healthy. This is purely virtual. Your “fuel” is only isolating you on here further.

      18. Twilight says:

        Lol Dr Quinzel

        I just state facts.

      19. Dr. Harleen Quinzel PsyD says:

        Emotion Detective,

        Ahhh there’s that mid range behavior we just all know and love so much ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ™„

        A super empath wouldn’t take that kind of low blow shot at anyone.

        You continue to demonstrate the true core of who you are. That comment was extremely ugly towards Clarece.

        Hmm funny how you went for Clarece – she barely said anything and you have yet to come for me.

        What’s wrong? How come you don’t want to play with me? I’m so much fun!

        Let’s try once more:

        So tell me who is funding your research?

        What universities are you affiliated with (if you are)?

        What are your qualifications?

        By the way your YouTube videos are quite amusing – you appear to be using HGs categories and what not.

        You might want to come up with some of your own original thoughts.

        As for the information you spew to the public – I suggest you find the research to back it up.

        1. Indy says:

          Hi Doc,

          So funny, I asked those exact same questions about funding and affiliations ๐Ÿ˜‚ I also gave like a bibliography of sources that countered her “research”. The response was, oh they all are wrong…๐Ÿ˜‚ No sources in return.

          As Southerners say, “she done crapped in her hat and pulled it over her ears”

      20. Indy says:

        Thank you HG for clarifying for new readers the facts. And for standing up for many of us, including me. Your moderation was very appreciated.

        It’s an unfortunate thing when people come here to heal and seek support and risk being approached by a wolf in sheep’s clothing, promoting snake oil facts. The downside of the internet. Though we have our brains and it’s important to research shit being peddled as gold. Like everything.

        It isn’t empaths defending a narcissist here, it’s adults (both a narcissist and many non-narcissists) that are confronting false information being put out as fact. No science, no sources, fails smell test.

        Not only have you ED promoted false information without sources, even when requested, several had been verbally abused by you ED and thus why HG doesn’t engage with you. It gives you fuel. Why should he when you are promoting misinformation? Why should he when you are disrespectful to his readers? Incase you do not know what abuse is, it is When you call readers names(like you did me), suggest people are stupid(like you did EB), and smear others by name (like you did me) and to triangulate, that’s abuse.

        And, as recovering folks from past abuse, we say no more, in any form, including in this forum. Line drawn.

      21. Narc affair says:

        Mla..youre an awesome mother! โค anyone reading your posts can see that.

      22. Dr. Harleen Quinzel PsyD says:


        That’s freakin hilarious. Oh you southerners.

        HG ,

        I imagine emotion detective in this song lol

        It happen to pop up on my play list and I was like wow how perfect…

      23. Twilight says:

        Indy and Clarece

        You both shine and show the true strength.

        1. Indy says:

          Hi Twilight!
          As do you, โค๏ธ! We (all of us here) are tough women that will not put up with such bullying and spreading falsehoods and targeting this blog(smearing off and on this blog). I usually try to ignore, though when someone is targeted I get riled up! i know you all are strong, sometimes I just cannot stand by.

          Just another lesson here on how some people will target survivors and “victim blame”. I have seen a few instances here of it here, when people refer to readers as weak or pathetic or blindly following. Then thing is, they do not realize that this place offers empowerment and the ability to not only identify abusive people but also to draw boundaries, say no, and take our power back. Sure, we laugh, flirt and have fun, especially with HG. Do not mistake this for naivety! Those weapons are stored, out of sight, but not forgotten under those soft sweaters and blown kisses.

          Tiny fish with teeth can take down buffalo.


          1. Windstorm2 says:


          2. MLA - Clarece says:

            Hugs to Indy and Twilight!!!
            You both have made some well said and “robust” comments, rightly so and very appreciated!

      24. Twilight says:


        Thank you for your kind service of showing all us ignorant empaths just how your kind of “Super Empath” behaves.


      25. Twilight says:


        Thank you!!! You rock!!
        I came here looking for one like me, what I have found are some of the most amazing women. Strong, courageous and full of beauty. The few men that have popped up, a hold a different kind of “beauty” (not in a gay way).
        I have a deep respect for many here, yet HG holds both my respect and admiration.

      26. Twilight says:


        Thank you! I hope you had a fabulous time with your daughter!

    2. E. B. says:


      I can see that you are provoking HG again, as if you were starving for crumbs of his attention. What you wrote about him is not true. Your accusations are unfounded and offensive.

      When I read your comments, I do not see any of the qualities of an empathic individual. If you continue behaving like a narcissist/borderline, do not expect to be taken seriously.

      It also seems to me that you are jealous of Indy. If you are disrespectful to her or to other readers, your jealousy will make you feel more rejected and frustrated. It is a no-win situation for you.

      1. Star says:

        I’m jealous of Indy too:) she has the honour of a really long nickname from Mr Tudor himself!not fair!:) ( I’m joking) Nobody on here should ever feel attacked! we can all have different opinions, feelings , outlooks, but we need to respect one another’s differences and perspectives

        1. HG Tudor says:

          Indeed Star Voice of Reason and Advocate of the Sensible with Tolerance for the Downtrodden and Embracer of Perspective.

          1. Star says:

            Wow HG! That was very unexpected haha. Thank u.. I am blushing. You charmer youโ˜บ๏ธ

          2. HG Tudor says:


          3. Indy says:

            Hi Star!!!
            Now you have the honor of the longest nick name by HG. Wooooo hooo! (And very accurate nickname too, your kindness shines here). ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿผโค๏ธ

          4. Star says:

            Awww Indy thank uโค๏ธYou yourself are always so kind and supportive of people here. You never have a mean word to say to anyone and your comments are always on point. Everyone here can see what a beautiful person you are:)

          5. NarcAngel says:

            Ok I have to ask. What are those square flesh colored blocks that look like band-aids? Different shades even. I know theyre emoji but wtf are they supposed to represent?

          6. Indy says:

            Hi NA,
            Those are the chosen flesh tone of the fist bumps and hands in the air. You can modify flesh tones , for some weird reason they break them apart here lol. It’s some weird thing that happenes when the two programs are not apple or compatible.

          7. NarcAngel says:


            Thank you for explaining. Colors seem unecessary unless your giving a Black Panther salute but oh well……..

        2. E. B. says:

          Flourish of cornets. Enter Star, Voice of Reason and Advocate of the Sensible with Tolerance for the Downtrodden and Embracer of Perspective.

          I love your new name and I totally agree with what you said about Indy.

          You have goodness in your heart and we all like you!

      2. Twilight says:

        Star love the name you have been given by HG!!

    3. Katherine says:

      Why don’t you let it go, ED?
      You won’t get different responses from HG.
      And you cannot change that this is his chess board.
      Also, other people have enough information on brain washing and manipulation. If they aren’t able to use it, you can’t change that.
      Move on. Find better ways to spend your time.

  8. Cโ˜… says:

    how coincidental… after my last discard or disengagement (whatever HG calls it now) before I went N/C i turned his shit on him…. my last words via text were ” IT IS ALL MY FAULT” … of course it wasn’t… but i instinctively mirrored back to him… thats sic

    1. Nat says:

      I also took all the fault upon myself at the end… he didn’t object obviously.

      I even apologized to his Narcmother because she used to say I’m not good enough and hated me for whatever reason. But she didn’t even respond to my message.

      How foolish of me!

      1. Cโ˜… says:

        Nat, I am n/c with entire family… and no “last words” to any of them…. thank goodness!

  9. RS says:

    Well, of course it is . ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜œ

  10. Windstorm2 says:

    That makes me think of the oft repeated, “I never touched it, but if I did it was already broken.” ๐Ÿ˜
    Heard that one plenty!

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