What is the position when the narc knows that or confirms the fact that the relationship is toxic her word not mine but never makes any attempt to change or fix any of the causes that are leading to problems within the relationship. Is this normal
This does happen. It is the classic behaviour of having sufficient cognitive function and awareness to know the behaviour/relationship is labelled as toxic BUT there is no change because the narcissist does not regard the toxicity as their fault. More likely they see the toxicity arising from the victim.
HG,
Is this toxicity present in any form of relationship with the narcissist( family, profession, friends, romantic)?
When does the relationship become toxic?
According to you: why does it become toxic?
Is it toxic from the very beginning ?
Does this toxicity manifest itself in different ways along the relationship with the narcissist?
This one always makes me laugh. Darth Moeder always spoke very proudly of the beautiful body she had (not at all like mine of course) before she had me and my sisters.
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Ha … Just watching Grown Up’s with my 13 year old … And thought I’ve seen that photograph… x x
Thank you
Hi HG,
What is the position when the narc knows that or confirms the fact that the relationship is toxic her word not mine but never makes any attempt to change or fix any of the causes that are leading to problems within the relationship. Is this normal
This does happen. It is the classic behaviour of having sufficient cognitive function and awareness to know the behaviour/relationship is labelled as toxic BUT there is no change because the narcissist does not regard the toxicity as their fault. More likely they see the toxicity arising from the victim.
HG,
Is this toxicity present in any form of relationship with the narcissist( family, profession, friends, romantic)?
When does the relationship become toxic?
According to you: why does it become toxic?
Is it toxic from the very beginning ?
Does this toxicity manifest itself in different ways along the relationship with the narcissist?
Yes.
From the moment you are ensnared, although people would be more likely to think it is from devaluation but it is earlier.
Yes.
Thank you for quick response HG.
1. Does the narcissist believe that this toxicity is both ways ( for the one entangled with the narcissist and the narcissist) ?
2. Is the degree of toxicity (directly) correlated to the position on the fuel matrix: the closer on the fuel matrix =higher degree of toxicity?
3. Is the degree of toxicity (directly) correlated to the length of the relationship?
1. No.
2. Yes.
3. No.
Thank you for your answer.
Concerning:
“3.No.” I assume it depends on many other factors /status of the fuel matrix.
I always resembled this picture…at least until the parents were gone.
This one always makes me laugh. Darth Moeder always spoke very proudly of the beautiful body she had (not at all like mine of course) before she had me and my sisters.