Understanding The Fuel Matrix



All narcissists have fuel matrices and you need to understand where you fit into that fuel matrix and how that particular matrix functions as part of protecting yourself.

This Logic Bulletin takes you through :-

1. The Fuel Matrices of all sub schools of narcissist. This includes updated and expanded information about the Upper Lesser Type A and Upper Lesser Type B Narcissists, plus the Middle Mid Range Type A and Type B Narcissists.

2. What the Fuel Matrices look like, their size, the nature of the matrices and who sits in them.

3. How the relevant narcissist of each sub school relies on the individuals in the Fuel Matrix

4. What the Virtual Fuel Matrix is and how it operates.

5. How a Long Distance Appliance fits into it the narcissist fuel matrix and how that functions.

6. Detailed descriptions of each sub-school of narcissist, their behaviours and actions to increase your understanding of the different types of narcissist. This is a comprehensive expansion which will help you understand a lot more about the way different sub schools of narcissist operate.

A fascinating and educational exploration of the fuel matrix and the interaction between you and the narcissist, this is essential to know how the narcissist behaves so you can ensure your No Contact Regime is as effective as possible. It is also advanced reading for those who feel they are well-acquainted with the narcissistic dynamic from their existing reading and consultations.

This extensive Logic Bulletin is available at just US $ 10 and is a bulletin you will read several times and refer to often and can be obtained here

15 thoughts on “Understanding The Fuel Matrix

  1. Gál Cecília says:

    Is Ummrn and Mmrn always cerebral? Or just many times … thx

    1. HG Tudor says:

      No, these schools include all four of the cadres.

  2. Charlene P says:

    Mine seems to be the lesser mid range according to this but need a narc defector per our talk – HG have you ever told someone the person they’re inquiring on is NOT a narcissist?

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Yes, on numerous occasions.

    2. Renarde says:

      Charlene P

      A good question indeed. But an equally fascinating one is ‘How many people who consult on the Empath Dector are told that they arent one?”

      1. Lorelei says:

        Good question Renarde. My other question—why would anyone want to be an empath? Narcissists get off easy. It’s never their fault. They get a little uneasy until they let off steam abusing people, sure, the quest may seem to be laborious to find a ripe victim—but at the end of the day they sleep pretty easy. The one admirable thing about empaths is that we don’t have to mistreat people to get our jollies, that seems a good attribute, yes—but some of us have this occasional barrage of emotional mess that doesn’t seem worth being an “empath.” I think a strong normal is where it’s at. And not the ones who have a herd mentality and fall prey easily to group think. So, I do think there are a few much more desirable emotional dispositions. I would have welcomed a different opinion on the empath detector. If I could change it I would. I’ve allowed deplorable mistreatment of myself & my children. A normal person would never allow such intrusion into their lives.

        1. MB says:

          I don’t disagree, Lorelei. Being a nose-down normal seems to be a blissful existence. (Exhibit A-My Husband) He’s neither self-centered, nor particularly concerned about others either. (Except those close to him and even then not to the degree that I am.) Ignorance of others energy and needs would be quite freeing, however, we don’t get to choose. At the end of my life, if the worst thing people can say about me is that I was “too nice” and let people take advantage of me, I’ll consider my time on this planet a success. There are many worse things for which to be remembered.

          1. Lorelei says:

            I’m glad you have the support of an individual in the form of a spouse that has your interests at heart in a genuine manner. I have this too—but in the form of several friends. It actually came to mind because I have to work on a new will/trust, etc. I have two individuals that will manage my affairs exactly as instructed. I’m doing this because as a single person with children it is essential, and the former trust/will created needs replaced due to the divorce. My mother also did this for us and it makes the process easier for children. The point I’m trying to make is that normals are very reliable because they don’t have the bullshit black & white crud that lends to unpredictable reliability. I have to appreciate where I have these relationships indeed.

          2. MB says:

            Lorelei, that is a wonderful thing you are doing for your children. I do feel lucky indeed. I just hate for you to resent the fact that you are an Empath. It is a wonderful gift and I hope that one day you can embrace it as the positive attribute that it is.

          3. Lorelei says:

            MB—we rarely disagree but today we will. Being a certain type of empath can be a gift. Being what I am has been nothing but a problem because of the extent of the damage. Having grown up as I did allowed the combination of my traits to cause irreversible damage. An empath that grows up in a healthy environment does not allow such damage to such an extent, and is therefore able to have an array of “gifts.” This is not a pity party—it is a fact. I am grateful for now knowing all that I do, but how does this help my daughter? How does this help my younger children who by no fault of their own have seen nothing but deplorable behavior from their father toward me? How does this help? What? I can appreciate being kind to someone on a more altruistic level? Fuck that attribute—it is not worth the damage done. Narcissists have it much easier. In fact, the pursuit of fuel that seems tedious to me is even a “gift” to them. Think of the thought fuel a pedophile gets grooming his victims? We may view the pursuit of fuel as laborious but frankly they get off on even such horrible pursuits. I’m not saying I want to be a narcissist, I’m just saying that the short end of the stick is not where the narcissist sits at the end of the day. It’s the “gifted” empath that takes it up the a** over and over. The narcissist may get it once in their youth—then they are free like vampires to just spew their worthlessness everywhere. Period.

        2. Renarde says:


          I agree with every single word you have written. I also have prayed to be ‘normal’.

          Please don;t beat yourself up. You weren’t to know. But now we do.

          1. Lorelei says:

            Thank you Renarde—but in a way my absence of merit by allowing nonsense is culpable. I’ll never have a relationship with my oldest daughter, nor should she feel compelled to reciprocate my attempts. I’m also furious with my ex, but how logical is it to have this anger when I let the criminal in the front door and served tea after he spit it in daily? Being the brand of empath that allows this is incomprehensible to a normal and for good reason.

          2. Renarde says:


            I am totally hearing you. It does sound you might be tad in the FOG still. Hope you dont mind me saying that?

            You have EVERY right to be angry. Every. You did not know what he was. Yes, the law says ignorance is no defence but how on earth could you have reasonably known?

            I am desperately sorry to hear that about your eldest daughter. I will say though that the phrase Tempus Omina Revelat WILL bear fruit. Everything eventually comes out in the wash.

            I know that is no comfort when you miss her dreadfully. All I can say is that I had my ‘Damascene Moment’ when I was 41. Everything unravelled after then and very quickly too.

            I’m praying that your child and my children will have the same.

            My boy already understands he is not loved by his father.

          3. Lorelei says:

            Thanks Renarde. So much. It’s a really a shit day because I’m working with family to empty my mom’s house. It was in contract the day it was put on the market and I’m here despite not wanting to do this. I’m extremely emotional today. Pictures everywhere of my father and my wedding photos that I had thought were all gone.. I look at it and want to take an ice pick to that stupid fuck. HG says the anger will dissipate but I don’t see how.

          4. Renarde says:


            Big hugs honey. The anger will go, I promise you Give it time x

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