The Carrier Empath

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The Carrier Empath. A particular type of empathetic individual who naturally gains the attention of our kind. As I have explained before, our kind are drawn to empathetic individuals who fall within one of the classes of empath. Those classes consist of The Empath, The Super Empath and The Co-Dependent.

The Carrier Empath is a particular division of those classes and therefore can be found amidst any of those classes. The Carrier Empath is not a stand-alone form of empath but rather is embodied by exhibiting Carrier tendencies which “bolt on” to the relevant class of empathic individual.

The Carrier Empath shoulders, more than others, the emotional burden. This person rarely talks about themselves, although they have much they could talk about, either as a consequence of their natural intelligence which lends itself to considerable discourse, their ability to connect with people and engage in what could be termed as small talk so people are put at ease or because of their extensive experiences they have much they could share with other people.

The Carrier Empath does not see it as necessary to talk about themselves. All empaths are good listeners, it is one of the empathic traits which our kind look for, but the Carrier Empath is a superlative listener. Exhibiting considerable patience, he or she will sit and listen to the woes and problems of others. They do not jump to conclusions, as many people would, instinctively forming a view of the person they are engaging with, within moments of meeting. Instead, the Carrier Empath is able to resist making an early judgement about this person and will listen to what they have to say, so they can best work out how to assist. The Carrier Empath knows full well that sometimes just being listened to is the best thing for another person.

Those with Carrier tendencies are work-like in their approach, reliable, organised and effective when facing pressure. They regard it as their role to take on responsibility for others and struggle to determine the boundary of when they should not do so. They are unable to avoid taking on other people’s issues and problems and feel a need to assist but to do so through actions and a practical application of their compassion, honesty, decency and understanding.

The Carrier Empath is not a person who overflows with emotion but is certainly not devoid of it. Their emotion does not appear in surges and spikes, histrionic reactions as a consequence of the situation which they find themselves in but rather as a steady and reliable provider of fuel through their evident compassion and supportive nature. Whilst caught in the dizzying devaluation, some empaths will find themselves despairing and having up days and down days whilst they experience the push and pull behaviours, the Carrier Empath adopts a stoic approach.

Inside he or she may be churning but they do their best to maintain a brave face as they seek to remain dependable and forging forward. This person is solid and dependable. They are not a dullard, but they do not shine and glow like other empathic individuals. They are grounded, practical, pragmatic and excellent problem solvers.

The Carrier Empath is unable to leave responsibility with others. They regard it as their task to be responsible for other people and they rarely judge the flaws of others, but rather see it as an opportunity for them to shoulder the burden. They will remain with those who suffer from addictions, seeing it as part of their obligation to remain and fight the fight on behalf of the afflicted.

The Carrier Empath readily takes on the problems of others and will do so even when this becomes a drain on his or her resources, such as time and money. They may have somewhere they need to be but if the telephone call is continuing because the caller needs help and assistance, the Carrier Empath will continue to listen.

There is a strong sense of obligation on the part of the Carrier Empath. Whilst empaths as whole feel obligation, the empath will assist because they feel good about doing so, in a way, they gain a form of their own fuel from helping others. The Co-Dependent will usually help because he or she has to do so, being of a  giving nature in order to find validation for themselves in terms of their place in the order of things. The Super Empath relished the challenge that is presented and regards it as an opportunity to exhibit their powers.

Layer the Carrier Empath onto any of those classes and you add a complexion of obligation – the relevant class of empath does it because that is what should be done, that is the right thing to do and they have an obligation to care. They will recognise that the task in hand may be difficult, they will note that it will drain them but their fearsome sense of duty causes them to be the first to volunteer and the last to give up.

This division of empathic individual is certainly compassionate but approaches matters in a practical manner rather than “hearts and flowers” and whilst they will certainly use words to comfort, to support and to show empathy they prefer to rely on actions. If someone is suffering, rather than hand out tea and sympathy, the Carrier Empath will assume the mantle of the problem themselves and tackle it head on. They are especially apt at standing in the shoes of somebody in order to absorb the blast on behalf of someone who is struggling or wants their help. They are the proverbial person who would take a bullet.

The Carrier Empath has significant reserves of inner strength but is unable to regulate the use of this strength, since they tend to be blinded by their need to resolve the problem (often expecting no assistance at all from the person being helped) and therefore they will keep going until they have depleted their resources and a sudden collapse ensues.

Such individuals are prized by our kind, but by certain narcissists in particular. There is the provision of fuel, that has to always be there, but it does not always fountain from the Carrier Empath. Greaters tend not to choose those with Carrier Empath tendencies as a primary source because the gushing appreciation is not the style of the Carrier Empath, furthermore, the Greater tends to be more resourceful and therefore has less need of this element of the Carrier Empath. Instead, the Carrier Empath is desired by the Lesser and Mid-Range schools and especially so by the Victim Narcissist.

The Victim Narcissist derives fuel from the provision of care and compassion. His less impressive countenance is not one which results in gushing praise and over-the-top appreciation. Accordingly, the exhibition of care and compassion gives him the fuel he wants plus the residual benefits he requires and this is always preferable to the empath who gushes with praise but does little in the way of practical care. Thus those with Carrier tendencies are more suited to the Victim Narcissist.

Furthermore, the Carrier Empath comes with considerable residual benefits in terms of the provision of caring for someone with poor health, dealing with chores and problems on that person’s behalf, providing food, shelter, money and such like and therefore this raft of residual benefits appeals to Lesser Narcissists in particular and naturally the Victim Narcissist from the Lesser School.

The Carrier’s capacity for “taking the bullet” results in them also having appeal to the Mid-Range Narcissist. The passive aggressive Mid-Range Narcissist who finds that he is not able to get his way with a third party will invariably turn to the Carrier Empath to step up on his or her behalf and get the problem sorted. If weakened from a lack of fuel and potential criticism from this third party, the Mid-Range will turn to the Carrier Empath to make everything alright again and the Carrier Empath will dutifully attend to his.

During devaluation the Carrier Empath is wounded and confused by the manipulations used against him or her, but their sense of duty carries them forward and they will often fall victim to the narcissist’s capacity to blame others. Accordingly, if the narcissist blames his outburst on being overworked, the Carrier Empath will accept this explanation and will look at ways of alleviating the load on the narcissist, by taking more on him or herself or even going so far as to challenge the boss of the narcissist to secure a reduction in workload. The narcissist knows that with a Carrier Empath he can in effect point that person in the direction of a problem and the Carrier Empath will march into battle on his behalf. Again, this is why the Greater has less of a need for those with Carrier tendencies and why those of a Lesser or Mid-Range school have more reliance on the Carrier.

Devaluation causes those with Carrier tendencies to battle on in the hope of resolving the narcissist’s problems. The Carrier is less inclined to blame themselves. They do not see themselves as the cause of the problems which the narcissist alludes to during devaluation, but rather only blame themselves for not resolving those problems. The Carrier is blinded to understanding that there is no fix, but regards every problem as having a solution which will, with the right application of energy and resource, eventually present itself. The worse the narcissist becomes during devaluation, the more those with the Carrier tendency will apply themselves to trying to sort the problem out and usually identifies an external source (wrongly) as the source of the problem and is ultimately sent on a wild goose chase trying to tackle this external source whilst the problems continue unabated.

If the relevant narcissist does not have a primary source with Carrier tendencies it is likely that one will be recruited as a secondary source. This is more likely with the Greater who will prefer the primary source to be fountaining with fuel (rather than providing a host of residual benefits) and to have a secondary source who can be turned to as and when required, perhaps at moments of crisis, to be utilised for their Carrier traits. Whilst the Lesser and Mid-Range narcissist and especially the Victim Narcissist cadre of those two schools will want a Carrier Empath as a primary source, the Greater will position one as a secondary source since they make excellent Lieutenants.

It is common to find that the scape-goated child of a narcissist, if they avoid becoming a narcissist  themselves, tends to exhibit strong Carrier tendencies because they realise that by getting things done, having to attend to their own needs because the narcissistic parent has abandoned their duties at an early stage and also having to parent the narcissistic parent, is the most effective method of surviving. They care but do so without “showiness” and deliver in a practical and dependable manner.

It is also worth noting that as some narcissists age they will gravitate more to securing a primary source who is a Carrier Empath. Though fuel remains important, the need for the residual benefits becomes increasingly important for those narcissists who see their looks fading, their mobility decreasing and therefore suffer a reduction in their ability to charm and attract. Of course, this is not applicable to all of our kind, since many become distinguished with age, have the magnetism that comes from financial power and their innate charisma and sharp mind remain undulled. However, for those that see the waning of their powers, the Carrier Empath becomes more attractive to them.

23 thoughts on “The Carrier Empath

  1. Leela says:

    “The passive aggressive Mid-Range Narcissist who finds that he is not able to get his way with a third party will invariably turn to the Carrier Empath to step up on his or her behalf and get the problem sorted.”

    YES! THERE we have it! This is me!

    “It is common to find that the scape-goated child of a narcissist, if they avoid becoming a narcissist themselves, tends to exhibit strong Carrier tendencies..”

    YES! THERE we are!

    Wow, H.G. you can read minds, or what? 😉

    So, now: I´m a Carrier Super-Empath (took the ED).

  2. Another Cat says:

    Strikes me that several men seem to be carrier empaths. My dad was one. Fits the description to a t of trying to make her employer cut down on workload.

    HG, is this possibly also the main cadre for the Stepford wife?

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Carrier would be a majority or strong minority cadre element, yes. Magnet would also be present either as majority or strong minority.

      1. Whitney says:

        HG could I be a Stepford wife? Majority Geyser and minority Carier, Magnet, and Saviour.
        Codependent/Contagion.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          You could, although you would not be the prime choice for that particular type of devaluation.

          1. Whitney says:

            Thank you HG. The Midrangers don’t really like me 😩

          2. HG Tudor says:

            Balls to what they think. They do not matter.

          3. Violetta says:

            Whitney:

            Mid-rangers are the worst. Be glad if they don’t like you.

        2. Whitney says:

          Awww you are the best! Thank you HG.

          1. Another Cat says:

            Whitney
            No one isolates you like a Midranger. They are frenetically holding on to their good person humanitarian philantropist yada yada façade so it’s very very important for them to smear and excluded someone.

      2. Another Cat says:

        Thank you so much for clarifying.

        These longterm marriages between narc and beautiful shy smiling empath have been playing on my truthseeker mind for long.

  3. Whitney says:

    HG the God. I’m fascinated by empaths as well as narcs.

    If a friend tries to pay for both our meals, is that a sign she’s a Carrier Empath? This has happened with a few friends. I think Carrier must be a common type. I would like to know each of my friends’ types.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Not necessarily, that act must be seen against a backdrop of other behaviours to make an appropriate assessment.

    2. Alexissmith2016 says:

      Could also be a narc. I have a female friend who is mid range and quite shy for a narc but definitely a narc. She always pays for my meals and hmmm I allow it.

    3. Kim e says:

      Hi Whitney,
      I am a geyser and one of my favorite things to do is pay for the person behind me at Starbucks!! makes me smile……………

    4. Whitney says:

      Thank you HG, the God!

      Alexis I’m not keen on female Narcs, only Narc men. Someone said I need to get exorcised from the waist down, haha.

      I wouldn’t allow a friend to pay for a meal without reciprocating later.

      Kim e that’s nice 😀 Did you get the Empath Detector? What Empath school are you (Super Empath, Empath, Codependent, Contagion)?

      1. Alexissmith2016 says:

        Hahaha yes I know what you mean re female Ns compared to males

        Pre knowledge I would never have allowed a friend to pay for meals without reciprocating, not ever. Even if I wasn’t so keen on them. Post knowledge, if a narc wants to buy me tbings/ pay for tbings they can go ahead and I don’t feel dented at all.

        1. Whitney says:

          Alexis I know what you mean, and post knowledge I used an UMR Elite man like an ATM machine.
          But I feel so sensitive towards women 😢 I wouldn’t do that. I wouldn’t hang around a friend unless I truly liked them. Maybe because my mum is a bit Narcy and I just imagine how hurt she’d be 😭 she’s not a Narc though, she loves deeply. She’s a super empath.
          We are using this Narc label for such a huge percentage of the population. They are human beings.

          1. Alexissmith says:

            You’re right Whitney, they are human beings. My thinking is very black and white though and so I separate people into narc/ non narc absolutely. My brain simply won’t allow any grey. They are either narcs or they are not.

          2. Whitney says:

            I love thinking in black and white about the Abusers. It feels so good to label each as a Narcissist. The ones who devalued me and made me feel worthless. It is not me, it is them. They are Narcissists. I am a superior and great person, an Empath! This is why I love HG’s work.
            My thinking flickers back and forth though. I think of them as humans. I think that’s the Saviour Empath, one of my minority cadres.

      2. Kim says:

        Whitney
        Yes I got the ED. I am standard/contagion/super/co-dependent in order of percentage
        Cadres are geyser/martyr/magnet.
        Like my pedigree I am a mush mash empath😀😀

        1. Whitney says:

          Thank you for sharing Kim that’s very interesting!!
          I’m Codependent/Contagion/Super Empath/Empath

          And Geyser/Carrier/Magnet/Saviour

  4. mary says:

    Never in a million years would I think of myself as an Empath, but there there it is. Huh. Insightful. Thank you.

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