Meghan Markle : A Less Than Royal Narcissist : Part 38.2 The Duke´s Demise


Prince Philip has passed away. How does this factor into the world of Meghan Markle, how will it affect her behaviour towards Prince Harry? Will Harry attend the funeral and if he does, how will Meghan Markle respond?

81 thoughts on “Meghan Markle : A Less Than Royal Narcissist : Part 38.2 The Duke´s Demise

  1. PortiaRose says:

    And now we have the abominably odious Prince Andrew dropping a nuclear narc bomb… Because nothing says supporting your grieving 95 year old mother and helping her fill the void in her life quite like demanding that she promote you to Admiral and reinstate your public perks in time for your Dad’s funeral.

  2. Eternity says:

    She should have gone with and supported him . Too bad he can’t make a run for it then and there. I hope William and his brother can have a heart to heart chat about this women he is married. I feel so sorry for Harry he needs to wake up and smell the coffee.

  3. lisk says:

    I’m betting a miscarriage scare on funeral day.

    1. Truthseeker6157 says:


      I’ll have £5 each way on funeral day or the day after!

  4. susano says:

    Good stuff, HG, and I 100% agree with all you’ve said. It wouldn’t surprise me if MM made a trip to a hospital complaining of some non existent problem just to be able guilt trip Harry and have her “scare” on the record.

    I think this is a turning point where Harry will start developing serious resentment toward Meghan, though he won’t admit it to anyone. On that long flight to London, free from his warden, the magnitude of the complete upending of his life and family relationships had to hit him like a ton of bricks. He betrayed his family in a globally televised interview, aired while his grandfather only had a short time left, just as Nigel Farage said. He hurt his grandmother when she was dealing with her husband’s illness and now death. His father, Charles, has lost his own father and the other betrayed family members are now consumed with this loss. Then comes Harry who owes everyone an apology for his atrocious, self centered behavior but it can hardly be addressed because of the death that everyone will be focused on, as well the Queen’s grief and her well being. Then Harry will be further reminded of what he’s done when he cannot wear his military uniform to the funeral procession but William will be wearing his. Then he’s going to be under pressure to get his ass back to California, ASAP, so no time to spend with family, console and reminisce and certainly not mend any fences. And he will think about his grandfather who he was, apparently, close to (once upon a time) and how he didn’t go see him BEFORE he died. He will also have to face Anne, who everyone now knows is the unjustly maligned family member. Then the long flight back to California to think about dealing Meghan. I’m sure seeing his son, dogs and the new baby coming will be something he looks forward to, but Meghan? I’m not so sure. All of the guilt, shame and sadness around this trip will color they way he sees her, from now on. He may actually begin to comprehend how he’s been manipulated and the well will be poisoned. She’ll devalue him and he’ll resent her but, there will be the kids and he’s going to be tied to her forever.

    Does that all suck or what? Oh, and, then, he’s got to go back, in July for Diana’s statue deal. And, he’ll be thinking of how his grandmother is also in her 90s and more trips back to the UK and how nobody there ever wants to lay eyes on Meghan Markle, again. Harry’s got YEARS of misery ahead of him. I think we’re all going to be listening to or reading “Meghan Markle: A Less Than Royal Narcissist: Part 358.4, lol.

    1. WhoCares says:


      ” I think we’re all going to be listening to or reading “Meghan Markle: A Less Than Royal Narcissist: Part 358.4, lol.”


      Also, I think you make some interesting observations about what might be going through Harry’s mind during his trip to and fro.

  5. Bubbles 🍾 says:

    Dear Mr Tudor,
    Your running commentary and analysis is truly superb
    I can very much relate this to our ongoing saga with our youngest and his narc
    I feel like I’m the Queen and our son is Harry !
    I cannot send private text messages to him any more, as I believe the narc reads them all
    Our son only drops in on his way home from work on the very odd occasion for 5 mins or so, then he’s off !
    He has not celebrated anything with us for a very long time now !
    Sadly, I can’t believe a word he says anymore ! His words appear very insincere compared to his actions
    I’m sure the same would apply to Harry from the Royal family now
    Thank you for your excellent and knowledgable observations, I’m learning heaps upon reflection and comparisons
    Luv Bubbles xx 😘

  6. Strawberry ice says:

    Aside from the possibility of using pregnancy complications to lure harry back, I think it’s possible that she will make a security claim to bring him back, induce guilt in him and his family, and gain sympathy from general public. Yesterday as Prince Philips death was announced, there was a very strange headline in the US that read very much like a story that might have been planted. Something to the effect that police were summoned to their home 9 times in 9 months due to security breaches. I have never recalled a celebrity story about how many times someone’s home alarm went off. A non story. The article went on to say that 6 or 7 of these incidents were because the alarm went off. Probably Harry coming in drunk. Obviously the intention of the story was meant to indicate that Harry and Meghan live under a constant security threat. The timing of this story serves her purposes to remind Charles at the very moment Harry is returning to the UK that they need money and titles for their security. Also it puts guilt on Harry and gets sympathy from the public because now it’s been hinted that Harry is leaving her alone at a time when we are to believe that her safety is compromised and he is therefore putting her in danger, as is the royal family (by extension) because they are refusing to provide the security H and M want. It’s also a set up in the event she reports a home intrusion or prowler while he is gone and needs to call him back. Anyway, just another possibility but that story was so strange and came out the very same day that Prince Philips death was announced, which was extremely odd timing for something of so little news value.

    1. susano says:

      Just seeing this comment and good catch. I saw that blurb, as well, and only thought about the woke brigade (which includes media) all propping up Meghan and Harry and their narratives. I didn’t even think about the timing and, now, with your comment, it looks to have been planted for maximum impact. It was probably given to local media by one of Meghan’s flying monkeys.

  7. lickemtomorrow says:

    I imagine she will keep a very tight rein on him while he is gone, and make sure to remind him of how terrible his family is and about all the terrible things his family has done. That is my guess in terms of how she will attempt to maintain control. Harry has aligned himself with her. On this basis I assume he will look at his family with a much jaded eye when he returns, and with Meghan continuing to feed that narrative (to which he has agreed) he will appear as a stranger to them having also created a huge gulf between them all by his participation in the Oprah interview. I think the familiarity of what he has left behind will tug at his empathic heartstrings. At the same time he has decidedly left it behind and is unable to be reached now. While he may have a moment of recognition with his old life, it is not his life anymore. And this is not his family. I’m sure he will return to his Montecito home, and the narcissist in residence, with a very heavy heart. One that knows there is no going back to the life he once led. Those bridges can never be repaired. Which may give him even greater resolve to make a new life for himself with her and digging himself in even deeper. I’m not sure there’s any rescuing Harry, even with this window of opportunity.

    And I have one question about Meghan’s due date … why all the mystery?? “Sometime in the summer” … what’s that about? Control, obviously. But, there’s no way they don’t have an idea of when the baby will be born – e.g. “the baby’s due in June”, or “around the end of May”, etc. What’s the big deal if we know the month?! I’m beginning to pick up on this part of her narcissistic MO where she merely alludes to things rather than be more specific as that way she maintains more control. You have to ask her to get an answer, or the situation is purposely set up ensure you can’t ask as then you would appear to be prying, another method by which the narcissist can gain the upper hand in terms of their response. I’m going to put a bet on May at this stage, maybe end of May or around then. As to names, Diana is going to appear, likely not as a first name, and since Archie got a “Netflix” name, it’s likely they’ll give a nod to Hollywood again in some manner (since they are so disgusted with the Royal family in general). Maybe a “First Lady” name, since Meghan has her sights set on the Presidency apparently. Let me guess “Eleanor”.

    1. Truthseeker6157 says:

      Hello LET

      It must be coming up to our one year anniversary soon mustn’t it? Pretty sure my first comment was around this time last year. We should celebrate xx.

      That’s a very good point. It might actually increase his resolve to make it work, at least in the short term. It very much depends on how his family welcome him. The press appear to be reasonably balanced for now but that might change over the coming days and negative press won’t help.

      There might also be another reason for being cagey over the month the baby is due. Markle allegedly miscarried last year. I’m not sure of the month exactly. There might be a timing issue! If you don’t reveal the month in advance then it could be claimed the baby arrived slightly early. Many couples take at least a few months to get over the loss of the first pregnancy before trying for another. Many, not all. Clearly she is older so the thought might have been not to wait around, but most women would grieve the first before going for the second. It would highlight her status of narcissist in many ways. Just throwing it out there!

      1. lickemtomorrow says:

        TS! Yes, it is coming up to a year for both of us, and Happy Anniversary on the date of your arrival to the “escape pod”. Ha! That’s what it feels like. HG has engineered a giant spaceship and provided escape pods for all the empaths to join him as he charts his legacy across the Universe 🙂 Of course, he could as a narcissist jettison us all at some point, but much like the narcissistic dynamic one is not much use without the other. We need eachother. Sticking point for both of us. In the meantime let the celebrations begin (my Anniversary date is 17th of May, so still a month or so away!) xox

        I see (or hear) HG feels the family should welcome Harry back in the manner not to get him on the defensive. This makes sense, but could be hard to do. If William is expected to play “good cop” as his brother, I’m yet to hear who should play “bad cop” … working my way through HGs immense outpouring of work on this topic. I’m afraid I have little sympathy for Harry right now, even as a duped empath. The press may be holding their fire out of respect for the Queen and the circumstances, which is a good thing, but there will be a lot to play out in the next few days where the tables could be turned. I think without Meghan at his side he’s more likely to focus on the needs of his family in Britain and keep them front and centre for the time that is in it. In that sense there will no doubt be a display of his empathic traits and this may help keep the press at bay also. She is the lightning rod when all is said and done.

        I hear you on the baby issue, too, and there does seem to be some questioning around that. Somewhere it was mentioned that this was referred to as her second pregnancy, even though she had supposedly suffered a miscarriage which would effectively make this her third pregnancy. Could just be an unfortunate oversight, though I don’t remember there being an indication of how far along in that previous pregnancy she was meant to be. So much room for speculation!

        Regardless, all seems to be well with this pregnancy at this stage, though I’m sure it will also be used as a reason to potentially rush Harry back to the States. Depending on his reception in the UK overall he may be glad to get back there. Will Harry be forced to lie in the bed he has made for himself? So much remains to be seen.

        1. Truthseeker6157 says:


          I couldn’t tell you the date I first arrived here, just that it was around the same time as you! I stumbled in here by sheer accident and didn’t really expect to find the answers I was looking for, so I guess my brain forgot to log it!

          I was really impressed that the author of the blog was so active and bothered to interact with me to answer my questions. That really was the reason I decided to stay and have a proper read. Plus he sounded sane. Always a bonus!

          Haha yes, it is like the provision of escape pods. Flying around within the pull of the father ship (HG is going to love that. Ehh up dad! Haha! ) Symbiotic relationship as HG says. He bloody loves us flying round!

          Well, seeing as I can’t remember my arrival date let’s celebrate on May 17th. I have always been grateful that we are each other’s wing man! (girl)

          Did you see Omid Scobie commenting today? Meghan really wanted to accompany Harry to the funeral but her doctor advised against it (my arse he did). Also, and I really really loved this. She didn’t want the attention to be on her. He’ll be back in his brightly coloured tin box again now, until of course she decides to wind that handle once again!

          1. lickemtomorrow says:

            LOL to the date thing, TS 😛 It reminds me of one of HGs pieces on a former IPPS who was all about dates and anniversaries … don’t want to end up like that girl! But, my landing here was significant as the ‘aha’ moment of both being able to “know” the narcissist (who in various guises I had been interacting with all my life), and being able to “interact” with the narcissist (who in various guises I had known all my life). In other words the Ultra narcissist could tell me how it is and I could tell him what I thought about it.

            I’ll never forget the date of my arrival to the “escape pod” for that reason alone. Haha to flying around within the pull of the father ship and calling HG dad! Definitely symbiotic and we all benefit – win-win <3 (I agree, he loves it!)

            I'm also grateful for having a wing man (girl) in this process of becoming narc free, TS, and thank you for all the enlightening comments and questions you've provided 🙂 They've helped me a great deal and certainly made the journey easier for me. May 17th it is, and looking forward to it xox

            Omid Scobie doesn't realize he's being used like everyone else in this saga … seriously I lost patience in my last comment about it here. Probably comes under the heading of "The Unbelievable Behaviour of the Narcissist" because that's what it is to me. And gets my blood boiling! Giving myself a time out to recover for now xox

          2. Truthseeker6157 says:


            You got it! Hahaha! Proper laughing at that.


          3. Truthseeker6157 says:


            I like that you remember your arrival date here. I fall into things a lot I think. I fell into my job, fell into promotions, fall into my relationships because they all start off as friends,( though that’s not necessarily a bad thing) fell into big decisions about house moves and country moves, etc. I plan once I’m within the situation I don’t plan to be in the situation. ( I sound almost Midrange, ewww) Opportunities arise and I give things a go but I don’t ever really think I’ll be there long, just a little while. So I was similar with the blog. Stumbled in, never really expected to find answers, I hadn’t found them anywhere else!

            Me too, I’m really grateful for your comments here on the blog. You always make me think, and always try to find a way through things, your own difficulties and those of others. You have been and continue to be a huge support to me x.

            Confused and More Confused would be a good way of describing us when we rocked up! A lot has been learned in a year!

            Omid drives me up the wall. He is under the influence of a narcissist, even so though. I can’t help but think Omid is riding the wave. No consideration for the bigger picture of the Royal Family, just milking his moment of fame. Harsh perhaps, but I’m sticking with my harsh ha ha! Check out Violetta’s YouTube clip, that cracked me up. Might take the edge off your frustration!


          4. lickemtomorrow says:

            It’s interesting how you describe your habit of “falling into” things, TS. I’m not much of a planner in some ways, so I can relate. I’m “inspired”, which is often how things turn in my world. I get inspired to move in certain directions and when that happens I’m all in. Just try and hold me back 😛 Inspired and invested would describe me. You sound very open and accepting, in the sense you allow things to happen and fall in with them as they suit you. So you “happened” here and allowed yourself to fall in with HGs world and blog. I can also see how you would make a contribution everywhere you go, whether you planned to be there or not 🙂 People have different ways of being in the world, but that doesn’t stop them making a contribution regardless of how they make their entry.

            I like my relationships to begin as friendships as well, though unfortunately that doesn’t discount the narcs. My problem is I can relate at times to narcissistic magical thinking which gets me sucked into situations which go from being benign to malign. I’m going to have to take a look at HGs article on Utopia again to remind myself why “The Good Place” sometimes turns out to be “The Bad Place”. Usually because I forkin’ read it wrong!

            I’m so glad I’ve been a support to you, and somehow I don’t think either of us is done here yet, although we have come a long way in a year. Both of us have been able to overcome much of the sadness the narcissists left us with, and we were both pretty bereft in the beginning. HG has been able to make sense out of nonsense for both of us, and enabled us to look at them much more dispassionately <3

            Omid's an idiot! Definitely riding the wave, until he gets dunked, and Violetta's breakdown around his take was brilliant 🙂 She was witty while I was shitty! And the video V shared was spot on as well … though I was completely weirded out by it at the same time. I actually tuned into the episode on YouTube to get a fuller picture of the story. "Wish it into the cornfield, son" …

          5. Truthseeker6157 says:


            “Happened upon the blog” exactly! Ha ha! I do fall in but similar to you, once I’m in, I’m in. That holds true across the board. Give my word, I give my word, that’s it. Yes, I do give my all to each new opportunity. Pity these things work against us as far as the narcs are concerned. They are only one element though. I won’t be changing just for them.

            Laughing at not reading the signs to “the bad place”. They were just in a different language that’s all. Now that we are fully conversant in narc speak I have a feeling in future we’ll just pull a U turn and high tail it out of there!

            You’re right too, I’m far from being done here. There is still a lot more to learn and like the Starbucks drive through, I’m sure we’ll be paying it forward. I’m really enjoying the Not So Royal Narcissist series and no doubt when that ends another will start that is equally as riveting. I think HG has found his pace and his style now. He sounds like he is enjoying himself with the new content and that’s a real pleasure to listen to.

            As for the blog and the father ship, the more I think about it in terms of a business model, a route to a legacy and HG’s enduring desire to learn, the more I think the blog will be here for a long time to come yet. I suspect HG has never been so busy, and yet, here we all are, still commenting and still with questions answered.

        2. A Victor says:

          LET, “he could as a narcissist jettison us all at some point”?!? What a horrible thought, that I hadn’t thought!!! The ultimate jettison! And, since he’s not attached to us, he doesn’t consider us as sticking! Ohhh, what would the hoover look like?? See, tears to laughter, happens all the time nowadays.

          1. Truthseeker6157 says:


            Please see Asp Emp for all things hoover!

          2. A Victor says:

            Hahaha!! Right!!

          3. Asp Emp says:

            What was THAT, TS? …..”for all things hoover!”……. I don’t need to ‘hoover’ to be able to suck, thank you very much!

          4. lickemtomorrow says:

            Haha, AV, to the hoover xox Hopefully HG will allow us to keep hovering around the father ship (as TS so eloquently called it 🙂 )

            In other words, rather than hoover, please let us hover <3 Symbiosis complete!

            And I think I saw Bubbles give a good explanation for the volatile emotions at times. They can be treacherous in taking us by surprise, and shift so quickly, too. Probably a sign of high ET and something you will move along from eventually. You've had a lot to take on board since arriving and a whole lifetime of abuse to sort through. There is a knock on effect after finding one narcissist (unfortunately). We are magnets to them and they take advantage of us. Seeing clearly for the first time is painful. And then there are the layers. So many layers. I think you are getting through them, and it takes time. The ups and downs are the natural ebb and flow of the knowledge you are coming into. I have angry days, sad days, days of longing and peaceful days, too. Hopefully some of those emotions will settle down soon for you, but it seems they are being easily triggered right now. There could be a lot of reasons for that and the main thing is not being too hard on yourself that you are experiencing them. Perhaps you are feeling a bit raw after coming here and contemplating all there is to take in. I had some awareness before coming here so that might have made the transition a bit easier for me. Either way, look after yourself, AV <3

            I was teasing about HG jettisoning us, which I hope he never does, at least unless things are taken completely out of his control. The times when he does not appear, and no reason is given, I assume amounts to his need for control whether over us or some other area of his "kingdom", and therefore I accept his narcissism will have the final word over his return. I don't take it personally, but he knows as empaths that we will miss him and always welcome his return. He has given us a platform here which would be difficult to replace anywhere else on the internet. And his knowledge and wisdom around narcissism is patently irreplaceable in my mind x

          5. A Victor says:

            LET, thank you for your thoughful and supportive reply. The onion is a very good analogy. I am thankful that my negative moods tend to be short lived. Yes, this has all been an enormous shock to me but I think I am making some headway, I am more settled lately.

            I knew you were teasing about the jettison, I was being a bit silly also. If HG feels he must do other things, to further his legacy, it would be bittersweet, we would miss being here but we would get to see his legacy grow and even more people would be educated. When he goes for a while, I have thought he’s either taking a much needed vacation or he’s creating some fantastic new work for us. And, we will always have the knowledge we have, invaluable!

          6. Violetta says:

            I have thought of the jettison possibility. If HG’s empire grows to a certain point, he’ll naturally spend more time on paid consults and less time exchanging messages with Tudorites. Will online convos ever diminish to zero? If it ever does, I’m going to guess that real Empaths (or Normals who got narced at some point) will miss him, but be glad that they are now in a better condition to identify and deal with both professional narcs and personal narcs in their current, former, and prospective relationships.

            If anyone reproaches him (“I referred friends and every single forum I’m on and readers in tabloid comment sections to you; you wouldn’t have this expanded audience if it weren’t for the Little People like me, blah blah,” the Awooga noises will go off in the submarines


            and it will be clear a Mid-Ranger is trying to assert control. My only regret on that is, if it’s done through email instead of posting here, we won’t get to see it happen, and HG might ignore it instead of demonstrating a proper takedown.

          7. A Victor says:

            Violetta, thank you for that! Very funny!

          8. lickemtomorrow says:

            Yes, I think Violetta the natural course of events has to be factored in and that could still mean hovering, but the reality is empaths will move on with their own lives, too. All part of the symbiosis, and not something to allow yourself to become overwhelmed by in the long term. In the short term it is harder to imagine. Probably after reaping so many benefits by being here. The narcissist lives in the now, and HG has highlighted that again today in his latest Markle debacle video. Whatever is happening or requiring the assertion of control in the now is what they will focus on. We live without their ability to compartmentalize, and with a sense of continuity. That is why as empaths we might find it hard to factor in a sudden disappearance and may at times be deeply affected by it. Probably goes to the recent article HG posted – “Ghost”. Narcissists appear and can just as suddenly disappear depending on their needs. Everything we have learnt here will tell us what we need to know. In the meantime I’ll just keep hovering in close proximity to the “father ship” as long as that is possible 🙂

          9. Truthseeker6157 says:


            Cheeky empath! Here, have a lolly. 🍭

          10. Asp Emp says:


            Kiss My Ass!!

            How’s that for a Cheeky Empath?

            That lolly is sucked – oh, a word not beginning with F. For a change!!

            LOLOLOLolly time !!

          11. Truthseeker6157 says:

            Asp Emp,

            Hahaha, yep that sounds authentically cheeky to me !!


        3. BC30 says:

          I like your space ship description. I doubt any individual one of us would be jettisoned because I don’t any of us are attached appliances, but I might be wrong. Still learning.

          1. lickemtomorrow says:

            Thank you, BC30 🙂 and maybe only HG can answer the question about us being attached appliances, but I see he has posted an article today about the narcissist seeing us as an extension of themselves. I think this is true for all “fuel” sources, including tertiary ones which I believe we are to HG. In that sense I think we are “attached” or in narcissistic terms “extensions”. This also means this relationship will last until either one of us dies. Now that sounds weird, of course, to an empath, but I’m perceiving it from the narcissist’s point of view. That doesn’t mean one or all of us couldn’t be jettisoned (after all, HG is in control), but it does mean in HGs world we belong to him regardless of whether he jettisons us or not. I think this applies whether IPPS or insignificant tertiary source. Having said that, we’re all still learning, so I could be wrong, too!

          2. Violetta says:

            I suppose I ought to be ashamed of feeling proud that, even if jettisoned, I will.always belong to HG.

            Oh dear, I am positively Feudal sometimes.

          3. lickemtomorrow says:

            Haha Violetta 😛

            You need to take a leaf out of Monty Python:


          4. Truthseeker6157 says:


            This place gets more like a scene from Tru Blood every day!
            Just waiting for Eric to stride in.

            “You are mine”
            “Ok. Where do I sign?”

          5. BC30 says:

            Hahaha I’ve said before that, in my mind, HG looks like Alexander Skarsgard– as played on True Blood.

          6. Violetta says:


            It’s the violence inherent in the system.

            Now if we can just get HG to agree to a reenactment of the Castle Anthrax scene….

          7. lickemtomorrow says:

            Haha, Violetta 😛

            “A spanking! A spanking!”

            What are the chances?

          8. Truthseeker6157 says:


            He does?! Why am I only finding out about this now ?!

            Heyyyy HG! (imagine me in roller boots before I roll into the car)

          9. BC30 says:

            TS, super dreamy, right? We’ve talked about it in the Q&As mostly (I think) and the silhouettes in some of the art are actually him.

          10. A Victor says:

            BC30, I was picturing it as a group jettison, in the event that the blog would be displaced by more effective means of legacy building. And then a mass hoover. But I don’t know if that’s what LET was thinking.

          11. Truthseeker6157 says:


            As odd as this sounds I really liked the photo in the field for the last Q&A. It just suited him.

          12. Another Cat says:

            Haha, I believe we are attached alright, each in our own way. Sometimes we only visit here once a month, but I think of HG and you guys at serious daily work meetings!

        4. Violetta says:


          The original story for “It’s a Good Life” is on line at:

          There are some differences from the TZ episode based on it, but it is particularly interesting in giving a morally neutral glimpse of Anthony’s point of view.

          1. lickemtomorrow says:

            I took my time reading it, Violetta, and getting the full picture was just as disturbing! It reminded me of the narcissist in some ways and the way they have you walking on eggshells around them. I remember so clearly trying never to do anything to set my nex off, but there were days when it became too much. Days where some of ME had to come out, and I was like Dan, just needing to say something. I couldn’t hold the cognitive dissonance any longer. I couldn’t tell myself it was a “good” thing anymore. No matter how much I wanted to, or how much I tried. Aunt Amy seems the kind who got completely consumed by the narcissist and no longer knew who she was – the broken down empath.

            Interestingly, we see Anthony’s actions as part of a self defense mechanism he deployed after his life came under threat. He can engage with the animals as they are no threat to him, and even engineer a better life for them. But he must control the adults as he cannot tolerate the threat that thinking bad thoughts about him might bring.

            I see this very much as a story that equates with the narcissistic dynamic, oddly enough as that wasn’t your initial intent in posting it, V. But it has struck a chord with me and I enjoyed getting a little more insight.

          2. Violetta says:

            Actually, I did see some Narcissistic parallels. HG has mentioned that while the Golden Child gets approval regardless what he/she does, and the Scapegoat gets blame and criticism regardless what he/she does, both can contribute to Narcissism where there is genetic predisposition.
            The common thread is what the child does doesn’t matter.
            Even when parents or caregivers switch around who’s the Golden Child or the Scapegoat, it’s at adult whim–the child’s actions still don’t matter.

            Anthony’s low control environment involves getting constant verbal.approval from terrified adults regardless what he does, and inability to please, genuinely, any of the humans around him, regardless what he does. His efforts to make humans happy (bringing back one woman’s husband from the dead, changing the weather) are just as unwelcome as his aggression towards the bike delivery boy or the birthday guy at the party, so they’ve learned to disguise all emotions with mumbling and mental distractions.

            As one analysis pointed out, Anthony isn’t either good or evil, at least, not yet: he’s three. If kids that age could all use telepathy and telekinesis to act on the standard impulses of a three-year-old, the results would have to be disastrous. His power outstrips his knowledge. He has no ill-will towards the bird he takes over in one segment, but it ends up injured and dead because he was distracted and doesn’t know how to fix it.

            An Empath might wonder what would happen if Anthony’s first post-natal experience had been cuddling instead of the doctor attempting to murder him, but we have to remember that eventually he’d still have to go through the Terrible Twos. Imagine all that psychic power connected to a standard meltdown over bedtime, unfamiliar food, or toilet training. Even fairly well-adjusted toddlers hate their parents occasionally.

    2. NarcAngel says:

      July 1st seems a likely target date. That is if any planning on her part was involved.

      1. lickemtomorrow says:

        You’d have to be a pretty good planner, NA, but anything is possible with this gal. Imagine, a girl, born on the same date as Diana, and potentially taking her name … that would be off the charts creepy to me, and far from ironic! Meghan, unawaredly, plots and plans, but I’m not sure she’s that good due to being unaware. She’s likely to get the push in before then, and my guess it will be late May, perhaps early June. Bummer if she couldn’t line it up on the exact date 😛 Having said all that, my hope is that this little girl is spared the suffering that may inevitably come her way in light of the fact her mother is a narcissist. Prince Harry will need to step up his game in terms of protecting his children, whatever that might take. And it’s often children who can wake us up to the machinations of the narcissist and how damaging they can be. What we are prepared to take ourselves we often are less prepared to let our children suffer.

        1. NarcAngel says:

          By July 1st I meant anywhere near that time to direct attention away from Di’s birthday and the statue unveiling and back to her and the baby.

          1. lickemtomorrow says:

            Oh, I see! We were on different wavelengths.

            Well, get it close enough and there’ll be another reason Harry may not be able to travel, though he’s there now so it seems pregnancy and birth may not be an impediment on the most important occasions. She will have another reason not to attend and it’s as well for her. And everyone else, too. But could all of this have been planned? Who knows … I’m trying to keep my blood pressure down for now 😛 I’m sure she will find it fortuitous either way if she can keep the attention on herself, as she is doing precisely in this moment of grief for the Royals.

        2. lickemtomorrow says:

          Woohoo! Got the date right – late May, early June – and Diana is the chosen middle name. Lilibet as a first name in a literal shout out to the Queen. That actually made me want to throw up. How cloying can this couple get? While at the same time making every attempt to continue to throw the Royal Family under the bus? Their schizoid behaviour is taking a toll. This sums it up for me from

          “Naturally, Piers Morgan took the opportunity to take a swipe at the couple’s “constant pleas for privacy” in his reaction, while Aussie reporter Peter Ford labelled it “not good form”.

          “Harry and Meghan again show what A-grade vultures they are by taking the Queen’s private nickname and using it for their child – seemingly without any permission,” Ford tweeted. “People with a sense of complete entitlement never even think to ask!”

          Others called the move “odd” and “awful”.

          It’s like they’re slapping an elderly woman in the face! And not just any elderly woman. Showing her they can take what they want, when they want, how they want. IMHO, the Royal Family and the Queen just got the middle finger again.

    3. Violetta says:

      Pity the RF probably won’t have him around outside of the funeral. Ordinarily, people gather at someone’s house for a meal or refreshments, share memories of the deceased, catch up on each others ‘lives, see kids who were too young to go to the funeral and tell them how much they’ve grown, etc. Seeing how most people interact–particularly, seeing how the Cambridges, the Brooksbanks, and the Mozzi interact with children might jolt Harry into an awareness of how bizarre Meghan’s interactions with people are. Harry used to get on great with kids, was vulnerable to Meghan particularly because he wanted his own family, and he might finally see that her treatment of Archie is just plain “off.”

      1. BC30 says:

        Do you really think so? Ns are so good at getting the E so emotionally invested and attached that they are blinded to strange behavior and falsehoods.

        1. Violetta says:

          If he’s away from her and watching untrammeled interactions, he might notice. Unfortunately, they will be on their guard in front of him, because they don’t want everything to be repeated on Oprah.

          I thought her behavior was bizarre at a polo game where she showed up wearing something like an olive pup-tent and hauling around baby Archie in such an awkward manner, many people speculated it was a doll. George came up to her and she looked right over his head. There was no “Look at your little cousin, George. See how tiny he is? Give him a finger and I bet he’ll squeeze it” or “Sssshh, he’s sleeping. Were you ever this small?”

          As for Charlotte, she never even went near to look, which makes sense if the bridesmaid fitting was even more horrific than rumored at the time. There were stories that Kate had cried because Meghan was so insistent on no tights or socks (which not only clashed with the otherwise formal outfits, but could also lead to blisters in kids that age). Recently, however, it’s been said that Meghan called Charlotte “fat” and then-friend Jessica Mulroney’s daughter (also a bridesmaid) was ridiculing both Charlotte’s weight and her voice. I find it hard to envision how Meghan and Jessica could not only countenance but even encourage such trashy behavior, but these people do operate by number of clicks and ratings on Real Housewives episodes, so it’s possible the rumors have some foundation. They wouldn’t see that Meghan’s coterie was coming across as common as whale piss, and the British contingent were restrained by their own breeding from telling them so.

          My family was downright fucked-up (before people started calling such things “dysfunctional”), but if I’d acted like that at any wedding, let alone a royal wedding, I’d have got a proper walloping, and for once deserved it.

          BTW: Fucked as we were, a new cousin was still a big deal. Everybody wanted to crowd around and coo, or the nearest older kid might be jealous of the attention and act up, but there wasn’t this…blank. George might have been forgiven had he been so tired of younger siblings that he didn’t want to go near a baby, but he was still curious–and got no reaction from her.

          Sorry, but even by my lax standards, that’s not normal.

          1. BC30 says:

            I don’t keep up on the them, so I was unaware of these happenings. So many Es refuse to believe they’ve been ensnared when it is brought up to them. She’s not going anywhere now, those blood ties are forever.

          2. Truthseeker6157 says:

            Violetta, BC30

            It isn’t normal. Not by a long stretch. The Very Royal series and events since the Oprah interview have really made me think. In many ways, I think the male empath has things tougher than the female. There is the emasculation, HG has alluded to that. I still expect a man to ‘ be a man’ and Harry being controlled in this way feels stranger somehow. The expectation being more, ‘for goodness sake, fight back!’ He won’t though, not yet at least. Similarly, if he does leave then there is the added stigma that he walked out on his wife and children. Though this shouldn’t be the case, it feels like the woman escapes, but the man walks out. It might just be my warped view, but it’s almost as if I expect more from Harry because of his social standing and the fact he is male. I shouldn’t, because he is ensnared, just as we were and the same rules apply.

            One thing that has changed and in a positive way, is my view of the Mid Range narcissist. For a long time, the fact that they are unaware of the true motivation behind their behaviours afforded them some sympathy in my mind. A case of, ‘My narc doesn’t realise what he is doing therefore he isn’t guilty.’ They are guilty. Watching Markle in action has changed my view. Unaware she may be but she is still just a disgrace. She represents everything I dislike most in people. She is untruthful, she is insincere, she is utterly disrespectful, entirely self centred, self pitying, attention hungry, and on top of it all she is convinced the world owes her a living. Here is the Midranger in all their glory. Vile.

  8. Duchessbea says:

    Outstanding work HG. Great series with invaluable knowledge. Thank you HG. Brilliant.

  9. SW says:

    I was hoping you’d weigh in on Harry’s trip to the funeral. Enjoying the series on Meghan’s machinations – excellent.

  10. Asp Emp says:

    Reading your words, HG, made me think that it is just as well that Meghan (& unfortunately, Harry) are in USA, otherwise she would have made it so much more upsetting for the Royal Family as a whole over the loss of Prince Philip.

    Also the reference to many of HG’s articles, including ‘Why The Narcissist Makes Your Going Out Such A Battle’; ‘Death’; ‘Dropping The Narc Bomb’, makes reading the ‘Meghan Series’ easier to understand how narcissism works within those who have it and affects those around the narcissist.

    Harry is going to find it very difficult during this time but I hope he gets to spend some time alone with his brother, sister-in-law and grandmother, in some way, make some head-way into ‘repairing’ the relationships with them.

    The time away Harry has from Meghan will not be long enough for him to begin to even comprehend the ‘influence’ he is under as it is apparent he is in too ‘deep’. Who knows.

    Despite the fact it takes a funeral for Harry to have an opportunity, it will not be an easy ‘break’ away from Meghan, especially after reading what HG had to say in this video.

    Brilliant pieces of work on these series, HG. Thank you.

    1. Truthseeker6157 says:

      Hey Asp Emp,

      I was thinking about how Harry must be feeling just now. Guilty I think. We take responsibility don’t we? He will be the same. He won’t take into account the fact that Markle cajoled him into the Oprah interview. He will take the blame himself. I really hope the public don’t boo or shout comments. I don’t think they will out of respect for the Queen and Prince Philip. There will no doubt be some stray along the line that does though.

      On top of that. He will miss Markle. We miss them because they fill our heads and our every waking moment. Harry will be the same. I feel for him having to face the music in his current state of mind. I am however relieved that she isn’t there with him and hope that his family handle the situation similar to the way HG suggested. It’s an opportunity to demonstrate that there are always options, even if Harry doesn’t take them for some time yet.

      1. Asp Emp says:

        TS, I reckon Harry is not able to actually ‘pinpoint’ how he feels right now, because his mind will be too full of ‘clutter’ to be able to get a grasp on understanding the ‘whole’ picture. I also hope Harry gets to ‘sneak’ into the UK to avoid further upset on his part – there will be many people who have no idea about Megsie’s narcissism, yet they may know something is ‘not right’….. it is not even really Harry that needs to ‘face’ the music either. Let’s see how it pans out – no doubt the press will get hold of some information one way or another and then HG (another very hard worker) will provide KTN followers with an update….

        1. Truthseeker6157 says:

          Asp Emp,

          That’s true. The clutter, or the clouds as I usually say. It is horrible. I remember when I first arrived here, my mind was so dull the whole time. I wonder what that actually is? I know it’s ET, but the heightened stress and emotion must produce some chemical that makes us feel so very cloudy.

          I had post natal depression after the birth of my second child. Only mild, was in the US and didn’t trust the meds the doctor prescribed so went it alone for 12 months. Sounds like me doesn’t it? Ha ha!

          Depression feels different, an intense sadness but I didn’t lose logic. Maybe that was just my brand of depression. ET is either a rush and heightened senses when things are golden or a really dull nagging sadness when things turn darker. Either way the ability to think clearly is lost. There has to be a physical response at play in there somewhere.

          I wouldn’t wish ET on anyone. It’s awful. I really do feel for Harry there. I get frustrated with him sometimes, then I remember.

          1. Asp Emp says:

            TS, you saying about ‘the mind being dull’ – from what I felt / thought – that is purely Emotional Thinking with very little or no Logical Thinking. I agree – the chemical imbalances within our mind / body would have also been out of sync and yet something like ‘Prozac’ is supposed to be a short term ‘answer’!!

            Some people do not understand what depression is – they may feel ‘down’ but not necessarily be able to explain it because they do not have the knowledge to be able to put it into words.

            Yes, the physical health does get put out of ‘sync’ too when the emotions & mental health are totally fked up. You cannot always ‘treat’ someone by purely “addressing” their mental health because it more often than not, is trauma related and from an age when that person has not necessarily developed ‘maturity’ (ie being too young to understand / know).

            Good that you remember RE: Harry’s situation / circumstances. Frustration is an Emotional response……

          2. Truthseeker6157 says:

            Asp Emp,

            Funnily enough that’s exactly why I didn’t take the meds. I felt like they were treating the symptoms. In actual fact, it was logical I would be feeling the way I was. I had just changed countries 8 weeks prior to giving birth, I had no friends there, no family, it was winter and I was locked inside with a new baby and a 13 month old whilst my husband was dealing with a new job. Ha ha! “Of course I’m depressed! What’s the pill going to do about it?!”Logic!

            You are right too that some empaths have been surrounded by narcissism since birth. Years and years of trauma. I always think it sad when readers announce that they feel stupid for becoming ensnared. If you have never witnessed ‘normal’, how could you possibly be expected to know what normal is? You go towards what you know and recognise. Any one would do the same. Even if we have witnessed normal relationships, that plays against us too because we seek normal explanations for non normal behaviours. We are set up to lose from the get go. Or, we were. After being here, not so much. 😏

          3. Asp Emp says:

            TS, issuing meds is not “treating the symptoms” – it is avoidance of dealing with the real issue (on the part of the medical person suggesting meds is the answer). I think sometimes we have our instincts that work in our favour when we get the ‘message’ that taking pills is not the answer.

            Exactly…. “If you have never witnessed ‘normal’, how could you possibly be expected to know what normal is?”.

            My first indications / observations was when I was 11 and attended boarding school but obviously not understanding or having the knowledge as to why – my ‘relationship’ or family ‘life’ was NOT “normal”.

            And to think that the medical profession are using ‘support groups’ to send people to in preference over prescribing medication. Would not surprise me one bit, if someone gets sent to the “wrong” ‘support group’!!! I must remember this particular point when it comes to my “discussions” with those that need to become aware of my ‘new-found’ understanding / knowledge from the past year…….. ho, hum……

          4. Violetta says:


            The wrong meds won’t help anything–i.e., the quack who dealt with the behavioral problems obviously connected to my parents’ dysfunctional marriage by putting me on hyper meds at 9–but the right meds can help depending on what’s going on. Some psychotics can’t engage in talk therapy until they stop hearing imaginary voices drowning everything out. Many bi-polars need to stop riding the emotional pendulum before they can focus. In my case, I thought I had situational depression after my mother died and I was facing a dismal job market, but several friends noticed I wasn’t doing my particular flavor of crazy: it was an unfamiliar crazy.

            I took the quiz and realized I’d been happy exactly 2 times in almost 2 years: one medieval dance and one Civil War dance. I didn’t enjoy shopping, I didn’t enjoy ice skating, practicing ballet–nothing. These had been activities that at least diminished the misery, if they didn’t make me happy, but I was going through the motions on everything. They put me on an SSRI and the pills started to kick in just as my father died. I don’t even want to think about facing that situation unmedicated.

            I did go into therapy for a while, but I don’t believe I should ever go off my pills. I can look back over too many situations where I thought my feelings were entirely situational, and never realized that my chemistry was making it that much harder for me to deal with things. Meds may not solve my problems, but I can’t solve my problems if I’m either panicking or near-comatose with despair.

          5. Truthseeker6157 says:

            Asp Emp,

            Yes, I get what you’re saying.

            The problem with narcissistic abuse in many ways is that victims don’t realise they are being / have been abused. The desperation and low self esteem they feel is then attributed to depression.

            Rather than shipping people out to support groups, doctors should start firstly by assessing and then providing information. Asking the relevant questions to ascertain where these feelings of sadness/ low self esteem / hopelessness actually originate. Providing information about what constitutes abuse so that patients have a fighting chance of recognising the problem for themselves. This in turn facilitates the correct support being offered.

          6. Asp Emp says:

            TS, your first paragraph – absolutely. As I grew up with those kind of thoughts / emotions – I can now recognise it when it happens again. As soon as travelling is permitted, I should contact some friends to meet up. Selling up & moving is something else I’d been thinking about in last few days……

            Doctors need more training in ‘assessing’ people first. I think it’s lack of understanding the human psyche is the main issue at present. It’s all very well in having training in health ‘conditions’. Some people need to be given the resources (information) to be able to see it for themselves. There is too many sites for some people to be able to make a start. Too many sites that are ‘incorrect’.

            I am just not feeling ‘me’ at present – a little ‘lost’. I’ll get through it……

          7. Truthseeker6157 says:

            Hey Violetta,

            I agree. I am not opposed to meds if they are needed and they are prescribed responsibly by a doctor who has taken enough time to fully understand what’s going on. You have had both sides of that particular coin. I’m very glad they helped you the second time x.

            I have been offered meds twice. Once in the US after the birth of my second child. Once in the UK when I was in the middle of the second long silent treatment / disengagement / shelf with the narc. Who knows what he was doing tbh. Both times the meds were offered during the first conversation. In the US I picked up the meds and didn’t take them. In the UK I refused and requested therapy. I was advised the wait might be quite lengthy.

            The wait for therapy involved a form filling exercise. The same form three times in a six month period. ( No therapy just waiting for an online therapy place and filling in online forms) The form you had sounds similar. I made the third submission and there was a phone call a couple of weeks later. As I was not suicidal and had shown improvement I was no longer offered therapy but offered a book about CBT instead! ( I have read a lot about CBT) I told them to stick their CBT book, they should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves and their lack of support and hung up. That was that. I was to be unsupported then.

            I was still very very sad. I was maintaining the facade across the board, work, family, friends, but was dead inside, going through the motions. I would finish work late, walk to my car, put on my seatbelt and cry before returning home. There I cooked dinner etc and what was going on in the inside never once showed on the outside. This went on for months, agree no enjoyment in anything.

            Here’s the rub though. The narc reappeared. The ‘depression’ disappeared over night. Totally gone. That’s not depression. That’s sky high ET. I actually think I raise my own ET through thinking about things so much.

            I totally endorse medication in the right circumstances. Absolutely. It takes time for a doctor to understand what is going on with someone though and I don’t see time being taken. Prescribing / offering meds in the first visit can’t be the way to go. I was in the appointment just 20 minutes in the UK and had never met that doctor prior to the appointment.

            Arriving on the blog I was also very low. Beginning the downward spiral for the third time. I laughed, I joked, I teased HG very early on, which is my normal personality, but underneath that I was deathly sad. I received more support here than anywhere else. Both from HG and from the other empaths. Neither team missed a step. HG delivered the information I needed and actually levelled me out at times, the empaths supported and hauled me upwards. It was the first time I received the correct diagnosis and the correct course of treatment.

            Much love and sincere gratitude to the empaths here. *nod* to HG.

          8. Truthseeker6157 says:

            Asp Emp,

            The not feeling ‘me’ at present.

            Strange times at the moment. I think we have been waiting to get out of lockdown so long and it gets lifted but things don’t feel the same. It’s a washed out version of normality. We are still supposed to stay away from each other, still covering our facial expressions with masks and still overall just separate. Certain groups will be affected more by this and I think we are one of those groups.

            Your understanding of your past is falling into place and there must be a desire to just get going, to make changes, to go out and get and yet we are all still stuck in so many respects. I can therefore understand the not feeling quite yourself.

            A change of scene might well be the answer. I love the fresh start, excitement and optimism that comes with a change of location. There’s a huge world out there, work and family commitments allowing I only really see positives in exploring it. A new stronger you. A fresh start, in a whole new place, I’ve certainly heard far worse schemes, most of them my own!! When you really think about it, what is there to lose?

          9. Asp Emp says:

            TS, yes, it’s as if there had been a WWIII in some way and people just coming out after it. FFS – at one point, no toilet paper – that was total and utter madness. Yes, communication has been one of the hardest parts of it, for me.

            All I know, is that my life will be very different compared to what it was before Covid. I know what I want and need to do. My friends in the South had been suggesting it for years to move nearer to them. I still don’t feel the ‘pull’ to do that. I loved the holiday in Catalonia, but would I be happy? I’ve been to other places too. Ah, well…… I’ll do it when the time comes.

  11. Truthseeker6157 says:

    Nigel Farage has just fired a pretty accurate shot at Markle and Harry by giving an interview and letting it be known that Royal Correspondents were well aware that Prince Philip only had a very short time to live BEFORE the Oprah interview. The implication being that Markle and Harry would also have been aware and knowingly went ahead with the interview despite the severity of Prince Philip’s condition and the fact it was highly unlikely he would make it to his 100th birthday. People’s outpouring of sympathy for the Queen and what she was privately dealing with at the time of the Oprah interview is likely to cause Markle further damage and further threaten her control over the situation.

    This paints a very poor picture of the Sussexes. It’s a shame they are viewed as being equally culpable.

  12. Not So Sad. says:

    Ah, you taught me well HG. Thank you . This was my comment on yesterdays DM ” I’ll put good money on it MM going to have a ( fake ) pregnancy scare just before Harry jets into the UK ..

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Hello NSS, good to see you dropping in.

      1. Not So Sad. says:

        I’m always dropping in HG . 🙂 ..

        Six YEARS narc free of abuse because of your BLOG . And still spreading the word. .. Whoohoo!

        I’ll never ever be able to THANK you enough for changing my life for the better .

        1. HG Tudor says:

          Good to read.

    2. Caity says:

      NSS, I saw your comment and agreed. I posted one as well saying the only way Harry would get a moment of peace away from MM is if the RF manage to wrestle his mobile away from him.

      Brilliant, HG, as expected. And I’m pleased my thoughts when I heard of Prince Phillip’s passing and what MM was likely to do were very much the same as yours. You teach us well. And we, in turn, teach others based on what you’ve taught us. Your legacy is confirmed by every person you’ve already helped and those brought to you by the people who have learned from the *only* authority on Narcissim.

      That would be you.

  13. MB says:

    If it suited her purposes, I think she would’ve attended the funeral with or without medical blessing. At least it’s not an issue now as to whether they will attend the birthday celebrations. 😢

    1. Truthseeker6157 says:

      Hi MB,

      Totally agree. Assuming the baby is due in late June /July and the pregnancy is progressing as it should there is nothing to stop her flying. I relocated to the US at a little over 8 months pregnant and not by private jet with a doctor on board! Ha ha! She’s playing the pregnancy card now. So many cards and without even being a full deck!

  14. Very good! Really helpful to understand how this works for the IPPS.

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