5 Conversational Derailments

5-CONVERSATIONAL-DERAILMENTS

 

We don’t do conversations. That suggests that it is an equal process where we listen to you and your opinion is respected and deemed as valid. During seduction our conversations are both information gathering exercises and monologues which are there to showcase our brilliance. Once we devalue you, our conversations with you are tirades, imperious and haughty speeches, vicious diatribes against you where we speak and you had better damn well listen. All conversations must be controlled by us. Our need for control is considerable because if we every allow you to hold centre stage then we are losing out. We risk losing fuel, we are allowing our innate superiority to be undermined and we are ceding control to you. This is why we must never allow you to think or even achieve some kind of dominance, even if slight, during a conversation over us. The conversation is a mechanism for our use, not yours. It is for us to shine, to avoid blame, to lash out at you, to hoover you back in and enable us to achieve what we want. It is our conduit and you just happen to be involved but on the receiving end. Achieving such domination and control of the conversational arena is absolutely necessary and to maintain such a position we engage in numerous manipulations. There are many which are deployed and here are five of the most popular ways we will derail a conversation for the purposes of maintaining or seizing control.

  1. The Blame Shift

If you are trying to accuse us of something or pin the blame on us in the course of a conversation this is against our rules. We will not allow this to happen. We are unaccountable and especially so to somebody like you. If you can hold us to account through a conversation, then this reduces our superiority and allows you control. In order to prevent you from achieving this we will engage in a blame shift. Whatever you are accusing us of will be your fault. It does not matter if there is no logical link (in your world) between what you have accused us of and our response. These conversations are not governed by your logic but by ours. Our logic is that we must maintain control and therefore shifting the blame on to you, by any means, is a logical method of achieving this. There is the logic for you. Understand this and you begin to understand why we act as we do. Accordingly, you might accuse us of the following and be met with the response in bold.

“You have been seeing another woman, I can smell her perfume on you.”

“I’m not having an affair but if I was who would blame me? You never show me any attention or affection. You cannot smell perfume; you are just making that up.”

 

“Why haven’t you remembered to switch the oven on?”

“Why do I have to remember to do that? It is your job. If you spent more time getting on with what you are supposed to do, rather than trying to pick fault with me, this wouldn’t happen.”

 

“Why are you always trying to tell me what to do?”

“I don’t do that. You are over-reacting. I just suggest things for you because let’s face it, you aren’t really capable of making the big decisions yourself are you? That’s not me being horrible, that’s a fact, you are poor at decision-making. You should thank me for helping you.”

 

  1. Projection

This favourite method of derailing the conversation is so effective because it takes your breath away. By accusing you of doing the very thing that we are accused of (and invariably we are doing) you are so astonished at our bare-faced cheek, our audacity and our brass neck, that you lose sight of what you are talking about and end up focusing on the counter-allegation that we have just flung at you. You hate being thought of in an incorrect manner and because we project with such conviction, you are immediately drawn into engaging us on this point. You will fail to press on with your accusation against us and instead be side-tracked into discussing your own behaviour in a fruitless effort to try and persuade us that you have not done any of the things that we accused you of. You let your emotional response to such allegations take hold of you and this is entirely deliberate. Expect to hear comments such as these: –

“If you didn’t drink so much, you might begin to realise just how horrible you can be, but you can never remember because of your drinking.”

 

“You always take the last can of soda without replacing it. It is so selfish.”

 

“Me flirt? Have you seen the way you go on around Harry? Only last week you were all over him like a rash. It just wasn’t me that saw it and commented on it either.”

 

“You never turn up on time. I find it disrespectful.”

 

“You spend too much time thinking about your work and not enough concentrating on our children.”

 

  1. Interruption

You will not be able to finish what you are saying because of our repeated tendency and need to interrupt you. We do not consider anything that you have to say as having any value. You are inferior to us therefore anything which comes out of your mouth must be inferior too. We do not recognise or respect boundaries and therefore we regard it as perfectly acceptable to talk over you and interrupt what you are saying. Our sense of entitlement means that we are always to be heard and if this means cutting across you, so be it. This can reach even childish extremes where we will say one word so you stop and then we stop. You try to speak again and we repeat the trick. We keep doing it, halting you from speaking until you continue talking and we speak over you or you storm off in frustration. You can expect to hear phrases such as these: –

“If you would just let me speak.”

“If I can get a word in edgeways.”

“Why don’t you listen for a change?”

“This is important.”

“I want to have my say for once.”

“If you actually listened you might understand.”

“No that’s wrong.”

“No, you are making this up.”

“I have to stop you there.”

  1. Topic Shift

We love to deflect and distract. We also exhibit a considerable capacity for moving the conversation away from what you want to talk about and thus have control, onto something we want to talk about. It might be espousing our virtues or having a go at you instead, but we will hijack the conversation and wrench it over to our preferred topic. You must not protest for if you do you will be accused of trying to monopolise the discussion and failing to listen to us. We are brilliant at talking about ourselves or finding some topic which we can take round and round and round as you feel yourself falling into a stupor. We rely on your innate empathic nature of politeness, good manners and being a good listener so we can abuse this and prevent you talking about something which matters to you. Nobody is interested in what you have to say. Expect shift comments such as these: –

“That’s all very interesting but let me tell you about….”

“That’s not important right now, but this is….”

“That is irrelevant, now let me tell you..”

“Oh I must tell you this, it is hilarious….”

“I have to tell you this before I forget….”

 

  1. Silent Treatment

The old favourite. If we do not like the way, the conversation is going then we will either walk off or sit in silence. This is often done when there is a conversation going on in a group setting as well where we are failing to dominate the discussion. We want to bring it back to us and therefore by sitting silent and sulking we hope to engender some sympathetic reaction that causes someone to comment on our silence or invite us to speak. When done in a one-on-one situation this is designed to ignore what you have to say, treat it as unimportant and make you feel uncomfortable. You will be forced to ask us what is wrong and then chase after us as we remain sullen and silent. Your comments are forgotten as the spotlight returns to us again and the conversation has been successfully derailed.

Do not be derailed

Escape

Defend

Purge

HG Tudor´s work, works!

4 thoughts on “5 Conversational Derailments

  1. A Victor says:

    “We don’t do conversations.” Have I not read this one before? Sometimes they hit too close to home so I pass over them until I can handle them. This must have been one of those. All of these have been used on me by one narc or another. Some by more than one. This means I have likely not had an actual conversation with any of initial main people in my life, parents and romantic partners. I have been learning what a conversation should look like via my children! I knew this before arriving here but didn’t understand how it had happened until arriving here. This makes a lot of sense. But how sad to have to learn such things from ones children.

  2. Asp Emp says:

    Peter Gabriel.

  3. karmicoverload says:

    I heard so many of these phrases, most of them word-for-word.

  4. Joa says:

    “… our conversations with you are tirades, imperious and lofty speeches, malicious diatribes against you where we speak, and you better listen damn well.”

    Mrrrau, I felt a familiar excitement. I loved it when he switched to that tone, as long as he didn’t impose total stupidity.

    No one else allows himself to be in such a dictatorial tone towards me. Strange, I really miss it. As if I would like to throw off some of the luggage that I have to carry myself in my life.

    I also liked when he chased me into a corner in a discussion and proved that he was right. I was discovering an interesting, new, HIS perspective.
    “Answer only YES or NO” and cross-question – great logical fun. Sometimes I had to think longer about the answer, the questions were so confusing and I knew where they were going.

    I used this method later. He got mad and quit having fun halfway 🙂

    In everyday life, imposing your will on whether to make pasta or rice for dinner – exhausting. Nonsense (for me).

    Manipulations in conversation are all too familiar to me.

    My emotions dropped, I did the analysis coldly (as far as I can). This relationship would continue through him after the long silence had ended. He puts me in a different role – in which I was supposed to be hoovering from the very beginning, but the fuel turned out to be too tasty and he got caught up in it – after all, why not take it all? 🙂
    This means he will continue to pay for the child. Just wait calmly.
    Remember the goal.
    Remember the goal.

    Out of the three goals I initially set in this bizarre account, I’ve managed to achieve two. And that’s fine. For years I had NOTHING.

    And he, too, got a lot more than he thought he would win (deliberate treatment). He was beaming that he had managed to deceive me so. He even boasted in front of me 🙂
    I do not mind. For me, it was a means of achieving goal number one and two.

    I am waiting calmly.

    He taught me a lot.

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