Knowing the Narcissist : The Martyr Empath

10 thoughts on “Knowing the Narcissist : The Martyr Empath

  1. Candied Pansy says:

    HG, how can one downgrade Martyr to Carrier, or eliminate it? Thank you.

  2. Paola De Carli says:

    Thank you HG for providing these addictional information about empaths, I’ve been waiting a long time for you to explain exactly what “Martyr”, “Codependent”, “Standard” and “Contagion” are. Now I finally understood that Martyr is a cadre and the other three types are schools, but there is something that I still don’t understand: where shall we place the Dirty Empath (Infidelity and relationship breaker) and the Supernova Empath? Are they school, cadres or something else?

    1. NarcAngel says:

      There is no Supernova empath. The Supernova is an event. Input Supernova in the search function to find the relevant article. For further information, the Platinum Collection in The Knowledge Vault explains the Supernova vs The Cliff fight back which is an important difference to understand.

      1. Paola De Carli says:

        Thank You Narc Angel, and what about the Dirty Empaths?

        1. NarcAngel says:

          Once again, avail yourself of the search function – The Dirty Empath.

    2. Jasmin (SOTF) says:

      Hi Paola!

      I have asked HG if DE is a cadre before, here:

      He awnsered:

      “No, it is a class and is not always applicable. An empath will always have a school and cadre, Jasmin, but may not have the relevant class of Dirty Empath. There are various types of Dirty Empath but they are not always applicable to every empath.”

      I hope this makes things clearer for you.

      1. Paola says:

        Thank you Jasmine, this has made the things clearer to me

  3. Jasmin (SOTF) says:

    As I got my ED result back I thought this aspect came from PatriNarc. Now I realise that it comes from my mother who sacrificed too much. I was against it, never understood why but yet I must have picked up some of it.

    I escaped step PatriNarc at 7,5 years old and moved to PatriNarc instead. He future faked and promised change, but he was just drunk as before (alcoholic) so I lived mainly with my grandparents. I liked it there, however they weren’t up to being parents again (I understand that) and after 1,5 year I had to move back to my mother and step PatriNarc.

    I saw step PatriNarc as mean and I absolutely hated him. I never hold his back. I warned friends and boyfriends. I told schoolnurse, at yearly healt control showing I was underweight, that he had said ‘school lunch is enough food for me’ but that I’m hungry when I get home from school. Of course she called home. I was back at dinner table and I felt some victory over him.

    I saw PatriNarc as someone who suffered from disease. I worried about him and felt sorry for him. Yes, I remember these calls at my grandparents home. I heard the tones of their voices and I knew.

  4. Tom says:

    Poor souls must hate living so just take a whole heap of abuse.

    1. Candied Pansy says:

      Maybe some, but maybe others don’t feel allowed to live. They feel like and are seen as appliances, more than anyone else, IMO. Is anyone high martyr, without a narc parent / caregiver? I’d hate living, if it was just being controlled by a narc. Wouldn’t you?

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