JK Rowling – Narcissist?
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Mr. Tudor–
You concluded that Rowling is Super, contagion, codependent and carrier, savior, magnet. She definitely can get into it online. And she doesn’t back down.
I’ve been thinking about different internet spats…the narcissist remains involved because of a need to assert control over the other person.
1. Regarding Rowling in particular–what is the driver for her argumentativeness online? Her empathy for women? Reduction of empathy for people threatening and verbally abusing her? What other factors do you see involved?
2. What are your thoughts about her motivation for–as you said–branching out to launch an attack on asexuals? I don’t understand her motivation there. I don’t see the pro-women angle there. So it seems like it must be something else. And as far as I have found, she has not stated it. The main articles come with a certain bias–based on the sources reporting them.
3. If everyone (never going to happen) behaving like a narcissist targeting her stopped, how would her empathy drive her to continue working for women? How would it change her behavior regarding just this one issue?
Side note: Henry Cavill might make an interesting subject. He’s been known to be a loud supporter of getting fans what they want–to the point that he has lost jobs.
Thank you so much for all you do. My greatest appreciation.
Dani
1. Setting people straight as an example to third parties. Highlighting the idiocy of certain comments made towards her. Defiance , demonstrating that she will not be shouted down. Coping mechanism , ridiculing individuals as a means of negating their hatred.
2. See above.
3. She would support the causes in the way that has been described in the analysis of her.
Thank you, sir.
I’m tired of all the online anger and bad behavior. And she does participate, though I never guessed her as anything other than an empath throughout your wonderful analysis.
Please be safe. Take care. I appreciate all the questions you answer.
Since the day you made this video, I’ve been racking my brain who JK Rowling’s face in this picture reminds me of, in particular her mouth. Now I know: Mara Wilson in “Matilda”.
Hi Mr. Tudor, you answered so many questions I always had about Narcissism, and I find myself having a new question that’s come up. So last Narc situation I was in, the narcissist tried to drive me nuts and spewed every insult at me trying to get me under control etc.
In the end, it didn’t work and then this Narc started calling me a Narcissist as I knew it was an act of manipulation as I knew I was dealing this individual who was such a manipulator. Tried to drill it into my head that I was one. I never believed it and I always asked for them to back up their claim that I was one that they never did. I even started checking around on YouTube and I started getting your videos on what a narcissist was etc. and also found out through your work that I was dealing with one.
Well after information I got from your videos I wasn’t as such and found myself being better prepared to deal my Narc situation at the time. In the end, out of curiosity, what are your thoughts of when a Narcissist takes this route to call their intended appliance a Narcissist and try to drill into their head that they are one, even though they know they aren’t one. I know this may sound like a confusing inquiry, but it’s a conundrum I always had. Thank you for helping people like me.
Hello HG,
What type of empath is JK Rowling?
You will have to watch this to find out https://youtu.be/dpXEwtJcFhE
Mr. Tudor,
The video for JK Rowling is coming up private. Is this video only for subscribers to your channel? Will you be putting it in the knowledge vault as well?
No it shows as private when it has not reached its scheduled broadcast. Once that time arrives, you can watch it.
HG,
Will this video be available in the Knowledge Vault?
Just on YouTube at present.
Thank you, HG.
I have now watched it on YouTube and found it very interesting.
As I listened, I found myself agreeing with your findings and conclusions about JK Rowling’s Schools and Cadres for 99% of your analysis.
The only part of your analysis that raised a small question for me was your finding that her Schools included a sliver of Co-Dependent specifically in relation to her father.
The reason I questioned this a little is that Joanne had and seems to still have a detached and rocky relationship with him. While she has not cut him out of her life, she has kept her distance for the most part.
In the examples that you described of her including him in her life (in the dedication in her fourth book and her inviting him to her second wedding) my impression was that she did these things as concessions or token gestures rather than as Co-Dependent actions.
Perhaps there is an element of JK Rowling’s fame that makes her aware of her own public image and the way the public perceives her and her behaviour. This and her current wealth and close family (i.e. with husband Neil and their children) may give her external reasons to include her father while still remaining largely detached from him in a personal sense.
This is how I interpret the relationship Joanne has with her father as described in your analysis. I can see though, how and why you see this part of her life to be an indicator that she is Co-Dependent.
Thank you again for this series, HG.
Correction: My comment relates to HG’s video in the series on JK Rowling called ‘Part 9 : Conclusion’ (and not Part 8 as mentioned).
Spoiler Alert!
This comment is about HG’s Tudorscope determination on JK Rowling and whether she is a narcissist. If you don’t want to know the result because you have yet to listen to the series, you may want to stop reading now.
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After listening to Part 8 of HG’s Tudorscope analysis of JK Rowling, one aspect stood out to me.
In Part 8 of his analysis, HG discussed JK Rowling’s traits in summary and considered her traits in relation to the categories of narcissist, narcissistic, normal, and empath. As he did so, HG eliminated the possibilities of JKR being a narcissist and narcissistic.
At the stage where HG discussed whether JKR is a normal, her traits could have gone either way. As HG pointed out, she is defiant, argumentative, bold, and can be dismissive.
Then HG discussed JKR’s philanthropy and her meaningful initiatives and actions to help various people and causes. It was this part of her life and behaviour that made it clear that she was definitely an empath, according to HG’s analysis.
The thing that stood out to me about this is that JKR’s philanthropy could not have happened if she had remained a struggling writer living in poverty still trying to make a better life for her daughter and herself by eking out a living as best she could.
JKR’s philanthropic actions and generosity only came to fruition because she became very successful and reached millionaire status. It also made a huge difference to her philanthropy that JKR married a supportive, intelligent and grounded man who is a doctor.
If JKR’s traits were exactly the same in every respect apart from her philanthropy because she was still living in poverty it’s very likely that HG’s analysis would have determined that she were a ‘normal’. This is because the evidence of her empathy would have been limited to her family and those closest to her.
It makes me think that having resources and means – and also status – makes a huge difference to the ‘evidence’ and outward appearance regarding the level of a person’s empathic traits.
Firstly, if JKR were still a struggling and unknown writer, HG would not even know of her let alone consider her for the Tudorscope.
If JKR was say, a single mother paying a mortgage and working a regular job; sending manuscripts to publishers and hopefully waiting for her big break, she would not be able to travel to poverty stricken countries to fund new and progressive child-care facilities. It’s more likely that she would be waiting on a train platform in the mornings with 50 other people and thinking about whether her daughter needed new shoes.
If JKR was not a very well-known and respected author but a regular unknown person and she began arguments with trans activists on social media platforms, she would probably be described as outspoken, a ‘rabble-rouser’, or even a trouble-maker. She would not be afforded the attention and respect that she receives as a famous, well-known and very successful author.
My point here is that ’empathy’ is relative to circumstances and also status and social opinion. Empathy is like a sliding scale with regard to external social views and opinions. The evidence of empathy and the level of empathy demonstrated by a person is also determined by things outside of a person’s traits, such as financial means and family circumstances.
Therefore, HG’s determination of JKR as an empath as opposed to say, a normal, is relative to the context in which JKR happens to be living.
It makes me think of how many other ’empaths’ there could be in the world if given the means and financial resources to be able to exercise their empathic traits.
Fair observations although it is important to make this point clear.
“Then HG discussed JKR’s philanthropy and her meaningful initiatives and actions to help various people and causes. It was this part of her life and behaviour that made it clear that she was definitely an empath, according to HG’s analysis.” – Indeed, but it was not just based on her economic firepower but the determination, as explained in the video, based on her REACTION to what she witnessed re the orphaned children. Whilst you rightly point out that if JKR had not found fame and fortune with Harry Potter I would not have been talking about Joanne Rowling, nevertheless her reaction to seeing the boy in the cage and the other matters I referenced were responses she would have irrespective of poverty or wealth on her part. She was able to do far more given her wealth, but the underlying response applies regardless of wealth or its absence, which proved instrumental in the determination. Similarly, I should imagine she would hold the same views regarding the rights of women and the trans movements regardless of her wreath, which similarly provides an important piece of evidence to formulate a picture of what she is.
Thank you for your reply and explanation, HG.
If possible, can you answer a couple of questions, please?
If JK Rowling had a strong empathic reaction to seeing the orphaned boy in a cage, however, she could not do anything about her empathic reaction because she did not have the means or the time or she was otherwise occupied because she was about to begin a promotional tour for her latest book, for example…
– how would you know that she had a strong empathic reaction?
– would your determination of her being an empath still be the same?
Thank you, HG.
Given the fact that we know she had a strong empathic response because it was explained in the interview, it follows that she does have a strong empathic response. Therefore, JK Rowling may see a child in peril on another occasion but we are not told about it, we would however be aware that she would experience an empathic response to it by virtue of her empathic status.We know on this occasion not because we are told, but because of what she is. You know it is night and day because this is what you have witnessed as the earth turns. If you were underground and you could not see whether it was night or day, you would still know that night and day have passed.
Thank you for your answers, HG.
I can see what you mean by being aware of someone being an empath and then knowing that they will have an empathic reaction after that by virtue of their empathic status.
In making my earlier point, I wondered whether the determination would still be the same if there was a lack of evidence of an empathic reaction.
The empathy may still be felt by the person on the inside however if there was no way to show a reaction or describe the feeling of empathy, how would you have evidence of it?
Mr. Tudor,
I just finished listening to the video on YouTube. Thank you for doing this analysis. I’m so pleased to hear the JK Rowling is an empath! Will you be doing a video explaining her empath schools & cadres? Her ability to draw a line in the sand with her father and her first husband makes me think she has some super in her.
I may do so.
I would also very much enjoy a video detailing Rowling’s schools and cadres. Please, sir, we want some more (about JK Rowling). *gives Mr. Tudor a hopeful, imploring look*
This has been a very enjoyable series, sir. I love the vast majority of the analyses. There are some where the behaviours have been so extreme that I found them sickening to listen to. I am glad that they are there, particularly for those who have found them and seen their own circumstances reflected back. I am glad they are there for those who are interested in those individuals. I hope it leads them to greater understanding.
I have a feeling that Rowling is not a narcissist. I remember you scoffing in an interview at the idea of it, but it may have been scoffing at the level of evidence people suggesting it were using. It’s been some time since I heard that video. I deduced that you’d figured out what she was some time back. She’s just shaking out quite differently than any of the other analyses that you’ve done, particularly the recent Lively and Reynolds ones. I like the way there are twists and turns in all of them…Depp’s I think has been a real favorite for me because I was guessing till the end. I couldn’t see the empath outcome for him, but I know that many of his fans were eager to be told that.
I don’t want to say what I think she is just yet, other than I don’t think she’s a narcissist. I am hopeful that I’ve got her right. I’m quite eager to see if my feelings have taken me away from logic. Whatever the outcome is, it will be a learning experience.
Thank you for everything. Looking forward to more of this. It’s been a very enjoyable and engaging break. I also love the NarcIsland series. It’s superlative. Looking forward to the next episode of this analysis and the next NarcIsland.
You are welcome and pleased you are enjoined Narc Island also.
Thank you for posting the videos for Narc Island and Rowling here. I feel more comfortable leaving longer comments here. I appreciate the opportunity to have discussions about your work. I enjoy discussions about you and your work.
Thank you for everything you do. I appreciate it all.
HG : I have loved it because it shows that empaths can make a difference in this world. I knew from the get-go what she is. Question is class/cadre. I see super, carrier and maybe contagion and maybe co-d as a small minor given her ex, mom illness and father. I hope you tell us as I so admire this woman in so many ways! Thank you!
Hi Contagious,
I thought super too. I hope we’re right!
Contagious,
What makes you so certain that Rowling is an empath? I feel certain she’s not a narcissist, based on what I have learned…but the rest is a mystery to me. So looking forward to the conclusion.
I would love an analysis of Diana, Princess of Wales, too. Even knowing what she was…magnet majority cadre…HG said. But I wonder about the rest. We need more empaths being analyzed.
I knew instantly. You know it’s weird Dani, I can spot an empath a mile away but not a narc! Maybe because I grew up with them , have friends with normals and empaths, most relationships are with them then voila! I got ensnared. Shocked. Confused Harmed. Moved on finally! Without HG, I would still be looking at this exotic creature with a broken wing trying to figure it out and fix it…. While it pecked at my head!!!!
HI Contagious!
Apologies if this comes through twice (I got a funny failure)
I was very hopeful that she was an empath. But I wondered about normal, as I think she has taken some things too far. I don’t know that some attacks have been necessary. But I have seen narcissistic behaviors among many groups of people, and I think she is likely reacting to those behaviors, if not outright narcissists.
I hope Mr. Tudor shares her school and cadre info. I have been pondering it. I think she is a different school from me, for sure…and I think that her cadre mix is probably different, too.
Do you have thoughts on what schools/cadres you saw in her?
Hi Dani:
First it’s the eyes. I see kindness and compassion. The eyes are the window to the soul. I have written about the empaths in my family and they had a sparkle in their eyes. I looked up to them with reverence even awe. I recognized it in JK. My one Aunt was quiet, modest but when she did speak it was with intelligence and conviction. She was as good of a person as it gets but although quiet and mild mannered, she was no pushover. She would matter of fact and with a smile state her opinion and if you disagreed so be it. She never judged you for yours. She would smile in acceptance but never wavered from her stance. And that non-chameleon nature, the consistency, the long thought out stance… signs of an empath.
2. There were telltale signs in HG analysis. I have followed him a long time. Her treatment of her children, her reaction to seeing a caged disabled child, her being ensnared by her first husband and she didn’t leave “ at once.” She tried to fix it then left. Her civil relationship to her father despite him being a narc or problematic. Her modesty and privacy regarding loved ones, her charity work , etc…
3. and Hands down Harry Potter. She is a Christian and not just in words. The book is CS Lewis style. Good v evil. Redemption. Fight for the underdog. Chock full of morality. And empathy….and empathy….lots of empathy….
But in general it’s a sense I get from her, it’s in her eyes, and I love that she consistently and with earnest conviction stands up for what she believes and it’s directed to helping others.
I bought HGs pick 20? I think… people and HG will tell you what they are… and I intentionally choose 20 empaths for him to tell me. I got two wrong. And I was surprised. One wrong answer … it was solely based on what I saw in his shows, I knew nothing about his personal life so bad uninformed guess ….and the other was a genuine surprise. But in general, I knew the empaths. And I am a big champion of our kind. We are strong. We bring compassion, unity, community and love. And it’s authentic, true and exists despite challenges faced.
I am a great admirer of her. And of course big fan of her books. Such talent!
Thank you, Contagious.
I love the Harry Potter books, too. It’s such an amazing world that she created.
Mr. Tudor,
I’m enjoying these series as well!