Consent is not a matter which preys on the mind of our kind much at all. This is driven by the following factors: –

  1. Our sense of entitlement. We do as we please, how we please, when we please and with whom we please. We are access all areas;
  2. Our inability to recognise and respect boundaries. This links with our sense of entitlement whereby nobody is off limits to us. Somebody is in a relationship? So what, they are fair game to us. That seat is taken. Yes, it is, by us. That drink was meant for somebody else? Tough. We invade personal space, take things which are not ours, commandeer other people’s resources and act as if we own the place because in our minds, we do.
  3. You are part of us. You are subsumed within us, attached to us and since you are a part of us, why on earth do we need to ask ourselves for permission to do something? That is nonsensical from our perspective.
  4. We are unaccountable. Even if we actually thought that we might need consent it does not matter because the consequence arising from failing to obtain consent to do something will not apply to us. We are able to escape blame, evade liability and shirk culpability.
  5. Our sense of superiority. Consent is a chain. It restricts and hinders. We are the behemoth that strides ever forward and as such consent does not apply to a titan like us. Consent is what the little people have to obtained.

This attitude to consent means that we behave like a marauding invader. Everything is up for grabs. How might this manifest?

With the Lesser it is blatant and obvious. He will tell you that he is moving in with you and turn up with his suitcase and guitar (with broken string) and smile as he breezes past you into the house. Your resources are taken – money, food, energy – without any explanation offered. Your friends are seized either to be shoved to one aside and told what the Lesser really thinks of them, or flirted with and identified for triangulation potential. The Lesser will invite him round without asking, use your car without checking first (and not replace the petrol that is used). He will readily incur credit on your behalf. If you challenge him about this failure to seek and obtain consent all he will hear is that you are criticising him. He will rarely bother to even think of an excuse for his actions. He does not need to explain himself to you. If he does decide to respond the explanation is usually obviously incredible but this does not matter to him because he can do as he pleases and you need to get with the program.

“We share everything in this house.”

“What’s yours is mine.”

“I can’t believe you are making such a fuss.”

“No I didn’t use it.”

“It wasn’t me.”

“Somebody else must have taken it.”

He can do this because he is who he is and you had better quit you complaining out you will get what is coming to you and then some. Your person fairs no better. You will be groped in public, he will get up in your face during arguments, assault you, rape you, expect you to look the way he wants you too without any consideration for whether you wanted his name tattooed on your neck or whether short hair actually suits you. He is entitled. Full stop.

The Mid-Range is less brutish and obvious in his sequestrating behaviour but is no less invasive. Where he differs from the Lesser is that he has enough control not to fly off the handle when challenged about the fact that he used the housekeeping for beer or used up all the hot water without putting the immersion heater on. Instead, the Mid-Range will offer an explanation, even an apology (although it is not meant) in order to ensure that consent is retrospectively given.

“I thought I had already asked you.”

“I am sorry, I wasn’t thinking. I will remember next time.”

“It was an emergency and I did not have time. Don’t be angry with me.”

“I will replace it tomorrow (that won’t happen) let’s not fall out now, I have something good to tell you.”

“I meant to get another one, I just plain forgot because I was busy running around after you.”

“I was hungry; you don’t begrudge me having something to eat do you?”

The Mid-Range will con you into granting consent so that he can file this away and use it for next time.

“But you didn’t mind last time.”

“Last time you said it was okay.”

“You said nothing when I did it last time, so how am I to know you don’t agree now? I am not a mind-reader.”

The Mid-Range will especially engage in making you feel sorry for him so you grant the consent retrospectively, he will make you feel guilty for objecting and make you seem like a spoilsport if you do not go along with what he wants.

What about the Greater? As you would expect there is none of the out and out grabbing of the Lesser as the Greater finds such behaviour vulgar. Nor would he engage in the pitiful mewling of the Mid-Range, that is ignoble and beneath the Greater. Of course the Greater has just as great, if not greater expectations that he can do as he pleases however his increased cognitive ability and awareness means that if need be, he will just plough on regardless and do as he pleases but he recognises the value in actually obtaining consent. Indeed, the extraction of this consent from a seemingly unwilling victim is a challenge the Greater relishes as it draws fuel, underlines his power and emphasises his superiority. You can expect the Greater to use emotional blackmail, bribery and coercion to extract the consent.

“If you agree to do it, I will take you somewhere good for dinner.”

“If you don’t do it, I will leave you.”

“If you refuse I just might have to publish those pictures I have of you.”

“I never thought of your as boring, everybody else does it you know?”

“My ex would do it without question. Maybe I made a mistake leaving her for you?”

The Greater applies pressure, immense pressure in order to extract this consent so that the reality is that consent was never properly given, but that is not going to stop the Greater. Once you nod, say you agree, mutter “okay then”, consent has been delivered and he will plough on with whatever it is that he wants to do. Do not think you can change your mind. In the world of the Greater, you cannot withdraw consent once given and it holds good for the rest of the relationship. It is not applicable as a one off.

The Greater also will apply plausible deniability to any situation where consent becomes an issue, so that if he is challenged by a third party with regard to the issue of consent, for example, taking somebody’s vehicle or using their money, he will use a combination of charm and out and out lies in order to damage the victim’s version of events and make it appear that consent was provided. The scheming intelligence of the Greater combined with the traits mentioned at the outset of this piece enable him to behave with impunity with regard to the issue of consent.

27 thoughts on “Consent

  1. Matilda says:

    “Or to find the balance between being tough and staying open.”

    Yes, that’s difficult, Mary… I have become callous to some degree after severe and repeated betrayal by my narc and others. A few days ago, I received another hoover mail. He told me about my kindness and warm-heartedness, how that made me stand out. He feels the need to keep telling me this, and I cannot help thinking ‘there’s not much left of her’.

    1. Mary says:


      It really is hard not to be callous when being anything else has gotten us hurt. It’s to self-protect, but also a natural result of being exhausted from caring so much. I am going to bet that your kindness and warmheartedness, which he keeps reminding you about, is still very much a part of you. It will be a long-term process to learn who is safe to show our warmth to, and also figuring out how to trust ourselves.

      1. Matilda says:

        “It will be a long-term process to learn who is safe to show our warmth to, and also figuring out how to trust ourselves.”

        I agree wholeheartedly, Mary!

  2. Matilda says:

    “If you don’t do it, I will leave you.”

    The correct reply would be: “There’s the door, and don’t bother coming back!”


    After all I have experienced and learned… if I ever got ensnared again, I would totally do that. Life is too short to spend it being miserable.

    1. Mary says:

      Matilda, YES! This! Anyone who threatens to leave if you don’t give in does not deserve to be in your life.

      1. Windstorm2 says:


      2. Matilda says:

        “Anyone who threatens to leave if you don’t give in does not deserve to be in your life.”

        Exactly…. it took me *so long* to toughen up, Mary… better late than never 🙂

      3. Mary says:

        Yes, Matilda. Better late than never. And I am still struggling to toughen up. Or to find the balance between being tough and staying open.

    2. catlady2468 says:

      Except when they refuse to leave to spite you following such a statement and devaluation becomes all out war

  3. Ajo says:

    God I wish I found you 6 months ago. But, seriously who am I fooling. He had me totally deceived. Whenever you talk about the mid ranger, it always is HIM!! One of his favorite phrases was “I am embarrassed”. He used that one to get out of so much stuff!!!

    1. HG Tudor says:


  4. Mary says:

    HG, would a narc who has gotten permission to do things in fantasy sex use it to force me to do things in real life and then call it consent? And it so, what school of narc would that put him in?

    Mine used to say “don’t be silly,of course I’d never force you” but then during fantasy play he would say “if we meet up again, you’re agreeing to this.”

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Yes. Any school would do this, most likely Mid-Range though.

      1. Mary says:

        Thank you. Would a mid-ranger also be polite and let me make the first move when we are in his parked car? This is what he did.

        Would such a mid-ranger be careful not to push things, to make me feel very safe with him physically, only to get me to trust him enough to be in a more secluded place later and THEN turn into an attacker? Or am I being ridiculous here? He did not try to force anything the one time we met.

        1. HG Tudor says:


      2. Mary says:

        Thank you. Would a mid-ranger also be polite and let me make the first move when we are in his parked car? This is what he did.

        Would such a mid-ranger be careful not to push things, to make me feel very safe with him physically, only to get me to trust him enough to be in a more secluded place later and THEN turn into an attacker? Or am I being ridiculous here? He did not try to force anything the one time we met.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          This is entirely consistent with the behaviour of a MRN.

    2. catlady2468 says:

      Mary my ex mid MRN did all of these things, especially post breakup in supposed reunion aka covert revenge. Everything is fakery manners and niceties but always built on the foundations of underhanded motivations.

  5. AH OH says:

    This is a two way street.

  6. sues423 says:

    Hi HG,
    How does this way of thinking play out in your professional life? You must have superiors or no? If so,this kind of behavior typically wouldn’t be tolerated on a regular basis so there would have to be a different dynamic right?
    How would it play out with a mid and lesser as well?

  7. Yolo says:

    The mid did that with a cellphone. Gosh, he swore i gave it to him because i wasn’t using it. It was new and I’d planned to return. I had to threaten him by saying i was filing a police report. His dumb ass kept saying he was a welcomed guest in your home. ( Gosh, i am so glad i don’t have to do the dog head tip anymore) All i could say what does that have to do with the price of tea in China.

    The next time i saw him he got on his knees and handed it to me. Insinuating take your precious little phone queen☺ Or, maybe he just wanted to be closer to my feet😂😂😂. Wow…

  8. C★ says:

    can empaths have a “sense of superiority”?

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Indeed. Just don’t show it near us.

  9. RecoveringNarcGal says:

    You are him and I don’t like it… the twin duality of giving (information) and receiving (I know the Narc doesn’t give for free). Yet you are still the good guy for giving insight right? Or are you?

  10. mistynolan01 says:

    I could never last one day with the lesser narcissist. UGH! No “finesse”– no subtlety. Nothing to admire.

    The *Master* Greater Narcissist (that adjective is reserved for you, HG!) is the prize!

    Top Dick! I mean that in the nicest way. 😊

  11. RS says:

    First, two new words I had to look up “subsumed and behemoth”. Thank you. The mid- range sociopath I was seeing was always saying things to make me feel sorry for him. His wife didn’t understand him. His family was awful and his mother said only bad things about him. ( Poor baby) 😜 I worry so much about all the naked pictures and videos he took of us. I hate to think where he has posted them. I told him once “these pictures are just between us right?” To which he replied “I’m not stupid” well yes, he is. He also used to tell me things like “My wife does it and so can you”. Of course I could not be outdone by her, could I? I had to go above and beyond. He told me multiple times I gave the best blow job he had ever had. I did it was such enthusiasm. I am sure I am not the only person he told that to. It was the only compliment he ever gave me. When I asked him “I give you compliments all the time why do you not give one to me?” He stated “because you have asked for one so I will not give you one”. I am reading your book “exorcism” and hoping it gets him from running loops in my head! Your kind really pisses me off!! Your books and information really helps though, and for that I am grateful.

    1. windstorm2 says:

      Your comment about asking for a compliment brought back many memories for me. I heard that, “Because you asked for it, I won’t give it to you” many times. I really hated that. All gifts had to be a surprise, so if I asked for anything, it guaranteed I would never get it.

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