Impregnate
The issue of our kind impregnating a victim is yet another tool that exists within our manipulative toolkit to enable us to achieve our aims. I daresay some of you may find it abhorrent and reprehensible that such an act as conception and the bringing forth of new life should also fall within our repertoire of machinations. Others of you will not be surprised, long-used to the notion that nothing is off limits to us. Everything is in play. As ever,the issue of impregnation and the forthcoming birth is very much something that is relevant to our kind and as ever, I provide you with the truth of how it is regarded by our kind, no matter how unpalatable it may be.
There are several ways in which the act of conception, pregnancy and the issue of children are used to further our dark agendas.
- The Promise
The promise to give you children at the early stage of the relationship is always done with a view to ensuring that you succumb to our seduction. See how committed we are to you? We want to have children with you. You. Nobody else. What other commitment underlines and reinforces the strength of our desire to you? The joining of two people in love and creating new life together is the epitome of commitment. How your eyes fill with joyous tears and that look of spreading delight crosses your face when you realise that this wonderful, brilliant and magnificent person wants to have children with you. Whether it is impregnating you or us bearing your child, this promise is readily wheeled out in order to clinch the deal. What you should also have regard to that expressing a desire to make you pregnant/become pregnant by you is actually all about reinforcing our dominance over you. From the male narcissistic perspective, the act of having you take our seed deep inside of you, subjugated to our desire to create new life underlines our power. You are not only allowing us to enter your most private of places but you are allowing us to deposit our very essence there as well. To us this is the ultimate act of conquest. We have vanquished all resistance and there, deep in your sacred and intimate place we have placed ourselves. From the female perspective, the act of becoming pregnant by you underlines how we have subsumed you into us. We have engulfed you and drawn that which defines you into our very deepest of places. We have similarly conquered you.
Not only is this promise made early in the seduction, it will be made irrespective of existing children we may have and that you may have. In our minds they are all just tests demonstrating our fertility for this most supreme of acts, the union of you and I. If we are considerably younger than you and you are female, aware of the ticking of the biological clock this promise of wanting to impregnate you will be used as a golden carrot to dangle in front of you. You are on the cusp of being barren, sterile years may well beckon and here we are, youthful, virile, fertile ready to not only give you our perfect love but to offer that perfect love by way of impregnating you. It is a powerful and irresistible promise which many find exhilarating and captivating. Add to this mix any existing issues in terms of trying to conceive or give birth and this vulnerability will be exploited even further. We want to give you what you want, only because it will give us what we want.
This promise will be launched at you from early on and will initially seem like a loving and romantic comment to make, but it is one that is borne out of the need to dominate and conquer and is a promise that will be made good for the second reason.
- Binding
There is no better way to bind you to us than the issue of children. The creation of children means that you are far less likely (and indeed in many cases unable) to escape us. You want the perfect image of a family and with someone who has arrived with such a glorious love for you, who better than us to have children with? We know that because as an empathic person you will dedicate yourself to their upbringing and therefore allow us reduce our own involvement save when it suits us. As you know, when you need support we are invariably found to be lacking. We choose having children as a means of tying you tight to us, ensuring you will provide plenty of fuel for us and have a huge obstacle in your way when it comes to trying to escape us. We have no desire to have children with you because of anything to do with you. We are using you as an incubator. We are like the insect which arrives and lays its eggs in another host causing them to do all the hard work. Once those eggs hatch you will be consumed, cast aside, just as that insect would with the empty husk of the carrier whose role has been completed. You are an appliance that supplies fuel. You are an appliance which is there to carry our offspring leaving us free to cultivate other fuel sources. You will receive little or no help from us, or be doted on, dependent on whether the pregnancy remains in the golden period. Whichever it is we expect you to bring forth our issue without complication or problem because these children are required for the third and fourth reasons.
- Pawns
What better device to use as a means of triangulation than one’s own children? These pawns are used in the ongoing competition with you.
“I love you more than mummy, you know that don’t you?”
“I’m your favourite aren’t I?”
“Let’s not tell daddy about this.”
“Mummy doesn’t really love you, but I do.”
Such utterances are issued in order to ensure that the children understand who is their master and commander. They will be used to provide us with fuel as they find themselves to our manipulations also but more than anything else they are a necessary and brilliant device that is used to triangulate with you.
“I will let you but daddy won’t.”
“Isn’t Mummy grumpy today?”
“Here, take this money but don’t tell your mother.”
“Aren’t you happy you look just like me?”
Your parenting of these children will be questioned. What you once did so well, will become the subject of scrutiny and criticism. Any perceived failure on the part of the advancement of these children – in education, popularity, sport and social competence – will be laid at your door. You have failed them. This heartless and savage criticism, attacking your competency as a parent is a fantastic method of causing you to spill fuel. All the while to the outside world we will appear the doting dad, the marvellous mother, the perfect parent. Little does the façade reveal of the tyrannical reign that emerges behind that closed door. The tears and sobbing never cross the threshold.
- Legacy
We wish to live forever. Someone as brilliant as ourselves deserves this and children provide the ideal conduit for securing that legacy. Our magnificence lives on through the accomplishments and achievements of children.
“He gets his brains from me.”
“Yes I was a champion sprinter as well.”
“He has inherited my artistic side.”
“I always knew he would follow me into the profession.”
“It is in the good genes I gave her; I always knew she would be a brilliant swimmer.”
The child never achieves anything. We caused those achievements. The credit will always be hoovered up by us. Sucking the admiration and fuel from onlookers as we grasp the glory and seize it for ourselves. We never give credit to anybody else and we make no adjustment to this selfishness with our children. They are just a further extension of ourselves. We attached you to us as an extension but we actually created these extensions, that is how powerful we consider ourselves to be.
We believe that children are the future. Our future.
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For some reason I have just had a flashback of my MR mother claiming that God had told her (in a dream) that He would protect her and had saved a spot for her.
She DOES regard herself as a saint. A saint. That’s how messed up she is.
The problem is, thanks to the facade she has built over the years (which involves strict religious observance and going to church every day, among other things), people believe that BS.
This is what happened to me…
Single Mum…he dangled the another child carrot and that made me feel so special 🙄
5 years of on and off relationship and I told him I was booked in to get AI and have another child on my own…
He told me how revolting I was and that he’d never speak to me again if I did…in a moment of weakness I was seduced and 9 months later my daughter was born. Everything was on his terms and I cannot believe I was so silly to fall for the manipulation…we’ve never been together since that time, amazing how I wanted a baby for years and he withheld it until I was walking away..
Now that was an epic preventative hoover Lynni!
The narcissist I was involved with told me once that he dreamed about getting me pregnant and even manipulating the dream saying that I was the one demanding of him to get me pregnant. Gushing about how a wonderful mother I would be.
This was happening while I was retreating from the relationship, knowing around that time that there was something really wrong with him. Silent detail, I told him a few days earlier I was infertile (I lied to get rid of him), I could barely contain my laugh of how ridiculous he sounded. So he basically was future faking, triangulating and manipulating while using a dream! Narcs really know how to save their energy. He’s absurd “dream” only confirmed my suspension that he was a freak and that I needed to get the hell out.
It’s sickening how true this is. My ex and I just had a baby February 2018 and I found out after 3 months that he has another pregnant girlfriend. She looks to be 6/7 months along already. Even though I left when I found out, I’m scared for my daughters life. I don’t know what he’ll do next
Angela G. I’m so sorry, that must have been devastating. Big hugs.
HG soooo sorry to say THIS IS SO AWFUL…MORE THEN ANYTHING.. I know men who have done this to women in relationships who had issues, breaking up getting back together so on and then a child was born. So then for the child sake they get married….hahahaha….causing more harm then good. Children are under their caregivers to take care of them, until they can take care of themselves. They are abused by the ones that are suppose to protect them. They are innocent as all of us were when we were little. IT HURTS so much thinking “Why is my daddy or mommy beating me, when they are suppose to protect me from harm of the world?” The blessing is hopefully, they will be blessed of having someone coming into their life to protect them.
This is a difficult read but an important and very informative article nonetheless.
A key article for greater understanding in my opinion.
The use of children in an agenda is despicable, but that is how the pattern is repeated, how behaviours are learnt, how abuse continues to revolve in a cycle..
I always thought another reason to get a target pregnant might be the want to generate the maternal instinct .
( maybe more of a want for the victim school of narcissist).
Or potentially a reason why some women are targeted who have children, a single mother, or not single in some cases …
I believe that I became more vulnerable when I became a mother, my maternal instinct was so strong, and I formed an amazing connection and attachment to my children.
However this instinct transcended to other areas of life, my compassion grew, my empathy grew.
But most fundamental was the self sacrifice position you adopt when you become a mother ( I know this is not the case for all).
As soon as my first child was born my needs were secondary if even thought of at all. Game changer.
So I believe that the narcissist may have targeted me due to this also, alongside other vulnerabilities he may have identified in me.
I think he saw the maternal / caring nature I have, and the self sacrifice, putting others needs before my own.
I still believe he is looking to find a replacement for his mother, the woman he is resentfully reliant on.
She was the first woman to reject him, the woman who turned her back on him when he was being physically and emotionally abused by his father. The first woman to fail him, the first woman on the never ending list.
It will always be this element of knowing him that will tie me to him to an extent. Regardless of who he has become, I can never hate him, I never have really.
He showed me the hurt and abused child, even though I do not want him in my life, I do not wish him harm or ill, he does enough damage to himself.
The women he targets are deeply wounded but they can heal, they can reject him in the end and move on to a more meaningful life without him.
He remains stuck in his cycle, he remains living with the woman who hurt him the most, the woman he relies upon, the first woman to fail him.. a daily reminder … what a shit life ….
Quasi – I agree with you about motherhood. Same here. I didn’t recognise myself post-baby, tbh! 😂
My Narc also has (IMO) mother issues too, for the exact same reasons, although I don’t think he is aware of them. Mine never has a bad word to say about her, which I think is strange, given his past. He will maintain she’s done a lot for him, whilst I’m secretly thinking, “But, she’s fucked you up!!”. Probably facade management, but I still think it’s odd he can’t even nod an acknowledgment to it.
Hi black unicorn..
The man I interacted with would not say a bad word about his mother in normal conversation, when he had the facade in full force. Then he would advise he was her carer to reason why he still lives at home. He would say she was great.
It was the moments when I thought he exposed his true self and the mask slipped that he would speak differently.
Usually when he was quite drunk and not as in control. It was like talking to two different people, more so then the normal when your drunk and when your sober versions people have.
He would be overcome with sadness that I could feel, he spoke of how his mother knew full well what was happening but turned her back on it and allowed it to be, how she’s did not protect him. He also broke down when he spoke of his father, stating that all he wanted was for him to Be proud of him.
These moments were different to the pity plays, they were genuine, I could feel the rawness and picked up on his energy, totally different then his falseness when laying on a pity play. When he did them I picked up nothing.
This is why I got pulled in more, and so deeply- I cared for him and he let me see his wounds. I knew then and know now that there was nothing I could do about it, but I still cared. I was still there for him until he decided to cut away from me.
This will always be the weak link/ tie to him. Luckily I have been able to squash it down and rationalise it, so that Link has not ruled since the day he cut me out of his life…
Hi thanks for sharing. Did you leave your narc? We have a 4 month old and I walked away a month ago. Even though HG told me this was the right thing to do, I still struggle with guilt and I’m wondering if you have a similar experience.
Hi Angela,
I think your comment may be aimed at black unicorn, but I thought to respond Also to say this…
You did absolutely the right thing for you and you’re baby… it will hurt like made, you will be torn by guilt. But he will not be there for you or the baby, not in the way a real father would be. Your baby will always be your priority, and there is no place for the narcissist in that dynamic.
You should be so proud of yourself, and you’re strength. Especially leaving a relationship with a newborn. You are inspiring for others here in my opinion.
Hold on, and place all your focus on your baby and care for yourself, let him fade away ..
Totally agree with this perspective also. I was pretty selfish prior to having kids, but it’s a change you can’t stop and your empathy grows exponentially (or hopefully it does, IMO). I also learned more how to put myself in someone else’s shoes because of being a mother, thinking about what the kid’s saw, heard, needed, etc. I did all of that in the relationship with the narc too, along with typical empathy stuff like blaming myself and self-flagellating. As mother’s we are very good at self-flagellating also…for all the things we think we do wrong or could have done better for them. Even though not all narcs are of the victim variety, they all love to be cared for, supported, pitied, etc. All traits implicit in motherhood/maternal instincts.
hg you mentioned 1 in 6 as a statistic before. Is that 1 in 6 have narcissistic traits or 1 in 6 narcissist as in actual personality disordered.
NPD.
So 1 in 6 are dicks. Good to know.
There’s never a dull moment with you around NA.