Getting Out!


Realisation has finally arrived that you have been sucked into the nightmare world of the narcissist. No contact is the way forward but have you got what it takes to resist the machinations of the Narcissist as she or he does their utmost to derail your campaign? You need to prepare for no contact and who better than to tell you how to do it than the dark-hearted master narcissist. Invaluable techniques are delivered so you can prepare and maximise your chances of attaining no contact and beating the narcissist.

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83 thoughts on “Getting Out!

  1. Kiki says:

    Yes HG this Carmen B lady is plagiarising your work on you tube .
    She is using all your terminology .

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Noted. Thank you.

      1. HG Tudor says:

        I have listened to a short portion of one video and note that there is a use of numerous terms and concepts devised by me. Not only are these being used without permission, she is incorrect in what she is saying and is actually misleading people.

        It would be of use to me if you have identified particular videos where she uses my material, concepts and terms if you could email me stating which terms etc she has used and in which videos, for the purpose of further action. I generally don’t have an issue if people use my terms and reference they originated from my work, but where they seek to pass the concepts off as their own AND/OR do so using them incorrectly then that must be addressed.

        1. FYC says:

          HG, Did you get what you needed? Do you have an address to send a cease and desist letter to her?

  2. Jenna says:

    HG look what I found:

    Isn’t “super empath” your term? Why is this “doctor” using it? I didn’t watch the video though. After the first 20 seconds or so, I could not tolerate it. Idk I just don’t trust a doctor with long fake eyelashes and long fake nails. Doctors are not allowed to keep long nails due to hygiene reasons though. What’s going on? I could watch more and try to figure it out, but I can’t stomach it. Anyone else want to try?

    1. HG Tudor says:

      I use it in a particular way. I have only ever heard it used elsewhere once (it was in an episode of a television comedy and was used more in the sense of what I would refer to as a contagion empath).

      1. Jenna says:


        I think you should put a “TM” after it. In any case, I learned it from you, and I believe in my heart that you came up with it, as you did “magnet” empath etc. Aren’t you mad? I think I would be. Or maybe the SM is having such a great effect on you, that you are learning to control your fury!

    2. Lou says:

      Jenna, I didn’t watch the whole video but I think Dr Carmen B ( I assume she’s a psychologist) is in contact with HG as she is openly using and explaining his terms. She mentioned quickly her “mentor”, and I guess she’s referring to HG.

      1. Jenna says:


        Thank you. I wonder if HG will verify this info. HG, are you in contact with this “doctor”? The plot thickens, and this is getting interesting… !!

        1. HG Tudor says:

          No idea who this person is, so no.

          1. Lou says:

            I just listened to the whole video. She is using your terminology (greater, MR, lesser, Co D, super empath, super nova,fuel, etc) and is explaining each of these terms (with inaccuracy,, which is dangerous, imo). She never mentions you, HG, so she’s not giving you credit (at least not in this video). She just mentions her “mentor “ twice, without any name (that’s why I thought you knew her). It seems she has a FB page but I don’t have a FB account to check. I may check other videos of hers whenever I have time
            She is for sure spreading your terminology.

          2. HG Tudor says:

            Thank you. This requires further examination then. Would you email me links and any contact details you know with regard to this individual please Lou?

          3. Lou says:

            Sure, HG. Will do.

          4. Jenna says:

            Thank you for your reply.

          5. Jenna says:


            Thanks for having the patience to listen to the whole video.

    3. FYC says:

      I reluctantly viewed the link for a couple seconds to get info. (I prefer not to contribute to her ego, er, I mean view count).

      A quick fact check on google reveals she is fake in more ways that one. Aside the obvious physical augmentations, she also inflates her title. According to Healthgrades, she is a counselor that holds an MA not a MD or PhD, and therefore is not a doctor. She is also riding on another’s coattails.

      Put it all together, it starts to sound like some of descriptions we read about here.

      1. Jenna says:


        “(I prefer not to contribute to her ego, er, I mean view count).” Lol!!

        Thanks for doing a little digging. I just couldn’t do it. Those fake eyelashes. I’m not saying fake eyelashes are bad, but those ones are just, I don’t know, really really fake lol. And then I heard her speak for a few seconds, and she just repeats everything I learned here. She might as well just read HG’s articles out loud. So she’s not a real doctor! I had a feeling…

        1. FYC says:

          Hi Jenna, It only took one quick google, no digging required! I’m guessing a possible opportunistic SMR?

    4. PrincessSuperEmpath says:

      Jenna. All roads in the field are leading more and more back to H.G. Tudor. So all his technical terms are finding their way into the lexicon. These mental practitioners of all levels of professionalism pursue and discuss HG Tudor and his works, while he diligently goes forward enlightening the entire field. I am glad he does not focus on many of these people as they acknowledge him, both overtly and covertly, as they read and study his works, and upgrade themselves. I wish I could have more time in the day to catch up on all his works. Because the quality and accuracy and depth and volume is staggering. I am awaiting HG`s new works as well, and other insights that he is still bringing, and he still manages to reply to our posts, and his videos, and his interviews, and his blogging, and his e-mails,etc. I am glad that he does not get bogged down discussing these people. The growing number of people working in this field. But, I guess I am selfish like that. I want more H.G. Tudor. Straight and neat. Un-distracted and Un-diluted. ~~PSE

      1. jenna says:


        I am glad professionals are using HG’s work. But I do think they need to reference him. You make good points though!

  3. Narc noob says:

    HG, I sent an email and you responded without addressing me or signing off. You said just 4 words “hacking doesnt gain fuel”. I then got another email that sounded more like you, suggesting I have an audio consult.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Correct. Do you have a question?

      1. Narc noob says:

        Yes I do have a question. What would HG do if someone hacked his device, namely the one you use for KTN? Would there be any fuel available to an N for doing so. You already have suggested there wasn’t.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          In the highly unlikely event it was hacked, I would know about it and apply counter measures.

          The person gacking would obtain Thought Fuel if a narcissist, but that is weak and transient. They would not receive any Proximate Fuel.

          1. Narc noob says:

            Thanks HG for your time. I appreciate it. 👍🙏

            Further to my last question, would the hacker recieve Proximate Fuel if they had access to the hacked device camera or microphone, meaning they could hear and see you?

            What makes you so sure that you would “know about it” if they didn’t want you knowing?

            I doubt an N has any reason to gain access to your secrets, however you did mention that MRNs like hanging off the coat tails of GENs.

          2. HG Tudor says:

            No because the reaction of the victim has to be generated by the narcissist. If the victim is unaware that they have been hacked and even though the narcissist can see the victim through their camera, the reaction of the victim is not owing to the narcissist, therefore that is not fuel.

            I am hardly going to give away how I would know am I? That would not be very clever would it? Let’s just state given who I am and what I do, I have many measures which tell me lots and this would be one of the things I would definitely know about.

          3. Lou says:

            HG, have you hacked often your IPPSs computers and/or IPads (is that possible) to have access to information, camera and micro?

          4. Narc noob says:

            Thanks HG! I’ll organise a consult

          5. HG Tudor says:

            Jolly good, I look forward to assisting you.

          6. Narc noob says:

            Thanks HG.

            That’s what I thought ie proximity fuel only if the victim was aware of the hack. They could use this for others in their fuel matrix also but not to reveal there hack, just to check up on them and know more about what they are doing so Hoover’s and devaluation can occur more accurately.

            For the discard or escapee a hack and reveal, might be implemented to exert control; aka fear.

  4. Mercy says:

    Should we be concerned that there is a tiger in abw’s bathroom? Am I missing something? Is this a British thing? I’m so confused.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Only if it’s Mike Tyson’s.

      1. Mercy says:

        Haha HG, I’ve ways been fascinated by exotic animals. Mike Tyson’s tigers was the only interesting thing about him.

        1. Abw Flying says:

          Hi Mercy,

          I was referring to this scene from The Hangover movie.

          I have been on strong medication after what happened last June to treat depression, anxiety and panic attacks.My doctor recently increased a dose of meds I have to take ( maybe that’s why I’m flying 🤔).
          Although I know I am not allowed to drink any alcohol sometimes ( it doesn’t happen often but it has happened few times in the past) especially on special occasions or when celebrating with my friends when everyone is having fun I find difficult to resist the temptation to have a G&T or some wine… and these are the consequences. Combining alcohol and my meds makes me act loopy, irrational, it affects my judgement, I say and do things I regret later.
          I am very embarrassed and disappointed in myself.

          1. Lou says:

            ABW Flying, I don’t think you addressed your comment to the right person, as I don’t think Kiki was doing the things you mentioned in your comment. However, I do think you did raise a good point in your comment.
            I often lose patience myself when I see HG is answering questions that have been answered many times before, or the answer is in his material and books, or questions that are being asked just to have his attention. But I think we all must be patient because most of us did that in the past too and people need answers and validation after narc abuse.
            Anyway, HG seems to handle the moderation very well and reply when he can and thinks it’s convenient to do it.
            I just wanted to tell you that you should not self flagellate too much and that I think you had a valid point. It was just not directed to the right person.

          2. Abw Flying says:

            Hi Lou ,

            You’re to kind but you might be right that I addressed my comment to the wrong person … I was catching up with the staff on the blog and I think I got triggered by someone who asked how much is 100 USD in GBP or something…
            Regardless I take full responsibility for my actions. The last time I offended some innocent people on IG …😐

          3. Abw Flying says:

            Re: HG seems to handle the moderation very well
            Too well sometimes…😉
            This is the time when I wished some of my comments would stay in moderation for longer… like forever… or end up in dungeon for once .

          4. Mercy says:

            Haha Abw I’ve felt like that before. Hoping a comment won’t make it past moderation or hoping it’ll get lost in conversation.

            I have a friend that use to give me her phone so she wouldn’t drunk text haha. Jokes aside I know meds and alcohol can be a dangerous mix. Please be careful.

          5. NarcAngel says:

            ABW Tiger Blood

            Combining wine and dinner doesn’t always spell winner lol. Shit happens. We’ve all been there and you’ve explained and apologized so hopefully that has been taken into consideration. I’m concerned though about other effects that can occur due to that combination and urge you to be cautious. We tend to take the warnings lightly but we should not. Take care ABW.

          6. Abw Flying says:

            You are absolutely right Narc Angel.
            I don’t like doctors and l don’t like being told what to do or not to do but I should have not ignore the warnings..
            The affects of mixing psych meds and alcohol are profound and dangerous.

            No sex , no wine …what kind of life is this…
            Like mobile phone without battery ..
            Job without salary…
            Pen without ink….

            Wine me , dine me , 69 me…

          7. Lou says:

            Yep, I often think Alain’s should be reading HG’s work. It seems to me she has been dating narcs most of her life. Lol

          8. Abw Flying says:

            Mr Tudor….

            Aguero just scored probably the most important goal for MCI and you are moderating?!

          9. HG Tudor says:

            I can walk and chew gum.

          10. Lou says:

            But can you read comments, watch the goal and make a victory sneak hips dance at the same time?

          11. HG Tudor says:

            Oh yes!

          12. Hairy Little Empath says:

            Wow, you really ARE a God, Mr Tudor. 😍

          13. Lou says:

            And do a sneak hops victory dance! Do.

          14. mommypino says:

            ABW, I haven’t seen which posts you regret but it sounds like you just had a natural reaction to the meds and alcohol combo so don’t sweat about it. Thank you for explaining.

    2. NarcAngel says:

      The Hangover.

      1. Mercy says:

        NarcAngel, Headslap! Sometimes it takes me a minute

      2. Mercy says:

        I probably shouldn’t say this but when HG mentioned Mike tyson I googled to see if he was British or lives there.

  5. Kiki says:

    Silly question just highlights my emotional. Thinking of course no golden period is worth it it’s false.

    1. foolme1time says:

      Kiki their is no question that is silly. If HG does not have the time, or simply does not want to answer because of being asked the same question time and time again, there is always someone on the blog kind enough ( if they know the answer) to give you the answers to your question. You should take the time to read some of the comments and questions on Instagram, then you will realize your question was not silly at all!🥰

      1. Kiki says:


        Thank you for your kind comments. I have no prob with HG not answering me , I kind of answered my own question there also as I thought in hindsight after what I learned it was a bit of a silly question.
        I’m late to the instagram though was off the site for awhile but decided to come back for some more insights.
        I’m just intrigued by all this Shield maiden news.


        1. foolme1time says:

          Kiki their are many on here who are intrigued by the continuing story of HG and the Shield maiden.

          1. Twilight says:


            I can say I am not intrigued in HGs private life. Do not desire to “feel” the tides of emotions from everything connected to it. I have enough in my own life……slight disappointment with someone I really liked.

          2. foolme1time says:

            Twilight I am not intrigued by his social life, I was more intrigued by where he was going with all of it as another way in teaching others about narcissists. I have found out however that being on there is very draining and filled with to many emotions for me to handle. I wanted to support HG in this endeavor but have found that even dropping in from time to time leaves me in a state I simply don’t know how to explain or understand. Disappointing people is something I’ve done my whole life, so why would it be any different on here.

          3. foolme1time says:

            Twilight you are one on here that I have the utmost respect for! I am very sorry that I disappointed you.

          4. NarcAngel says:

            I can’t speak for Twilight, but if she’s not able to respond right away, I don’t think she meant you.

          5. Twilight says:

            Narc Angel

            You were correct.
            Thank you.

          6. foolme1time says:

            NA Thank you! 😪😘🥰

          7. Twilight says:


            You have never disappointed me. I have a deep respect for you.
            I was referring to someone in my private life. Someone I was sharing my deepest thoughts and dreams with. There was a misunderstanding.

          8. foolme1time says:

            Dear Twilight,
            I was so very concerned, I’m so glad it wasn’t me that disappointed you! Without the strength and logic of women like you and NA, I wouldn’t have ever been able to find my own strength and voice to comment on this blog. I am so very sorry that someone in your private life has once again hurt and disappointed you. I hope you will be able to find peace and calm within yourself once again. 💞

          9. Twilight says:

            Hello FM1T

            Thank you, your words brought tears to my eyes. I don’t feel strong at the moment due to fighting my own emotions. I made the mistake with this person and I am working on forgetting them yet every morning I wake to thoughts of them. For the first time in a very long time I actually felt safe in someone’s arms.

            Take care FM1T you have come so far from when we first “met”.


          10. foolme1time says:

            I am so sorry yet once again you have been hurt. This may sound very strange to you, I can actually feel that pain and hurt! Even in the comment that I misunderstood yesterday, I could feel your hurt and it brought met to tears just as this one has! I am on overload right now as far as emotions go. You are amazing and a very beautiful person and I hope you can find the path to heal and find peace once again. I think we all need a trip to Assateague! Please take care of yourself Twilight. 💞

          11. Twilight says:


            A trip to Assateague is happing soon for me, I need some time near the water.

            I am not surprised by you “feeling” my pain. That was the misunderstanding between them and I. I scared myself due to becoming vulnerable to them and I know they felt it.

            Thank you for your kind words. I will find my way back to inner peace I just need to work through my emotions and accept things.

          12. foolme1time says:

            Twilight enjoy Assateague! I am going there again in about a month also. The ponies are calling me! I’m surprised to read that they felt your vulnerability? Most people can not do that, no wonder you are so hurt. I know you will find that inner peace that you deserve. 💞

          13. Twilight says:


            They felt my fear, in other words I made them feel my fear, they are an Empath. The vulnerability made them feel protective of me the fear repelled them. They didn’t separate the fear and took it as their own and I triggered something they fear showing and feeling vulnerable.

          14. foolme1time says:

            Now I understand. Thank you for explaining that to me. I realize there are some who think the schools and cadres some of us have are gifts! They are not! To some like myself I am just beginning to learn how much they have affected me my whole life. I am so sorry Twilight.

  6. Kiki says:

    Hg I’m late to the game with following your instagram.
    Wow Shield maiden must adore you right now.
    I detect a slight Irish lilt in her voice not born here in Ireland. but maybe her parents.
    It’s very slight not the stupid Irish accent Hollywood depicts.but I bet she has some Irish background.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      No, not Irish.

      1. Kiki says:

        she is going to be devastated Hg when the devaluation begins.
        Do you think her golden period will be worth her pain.

    2. Abw Flying says:

      Then why don’t you make some effort, do some research and find the answers to your question yourself and save a man some valuable time.
      Why people tend to always choose an easy path… a shortcut.
      Sometimes I’m under impression that people asking Mr Tudor a questions just to have a ‘ conversation ‘ with him.
      And I’m not saying that to discourage anyone as he is always very patient and considerate.
      Just please … think twice.

      1. Kiki says:

        Excuse me Abw Flying

        Do not assume I have not done my research .
        I have been here a while have read the majority of HGs books and had several private consultations.

        Now let me ask you this.
        Why do you think HG has set up an instagram page for us to view.
        Oh yes for no one to look at , no one to make comments ,no one to ask questions about SM.
        I think not what would be the point .

        There is nothing wrong with asking HG a question , the problem is demanding a reply.

        I have never done that .and never had an unpleasant comment made towards me here either.The vast majority of us do not insult others.
        So please think before you presume.


        1. Abw Flying says:

          To be honest I don’t quite remember writing this comment…
          I’m sorry that I caused offence.

          1. Kiki says:

            No worries Ab, sometimes. It’s easy to get our wires crossed here.
            Apologies for my defensive reply also.


          2. Abw Flying says:

            Thank you Kiki .
            No need to apologize . Clearly I was at fault here.

        2. Abw Flying says:

          I woke up to find a tiger in the bathroom..

  7. Kristin Stephenson says:

    HG I am wondering your opinion on emotional masochists? I have most recently discovered I may be one on top of being a super empath. Someone posted, in a support group, a nasty email from her narc. He was obviously a greater narc and new what he was and told her she was his possession. I was JEALOUS that my narc has completely discarded me and wanted nothing to do with me and her narc couldn’t resist her supply. It made me totally sick I felt this way and baffled me I believe it is more than a trauma bond for me I think it is a nasty culmination of several things within me including masochism.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      The capacity for self flagellation is an empathic trait.

      1. nfl3 says:

        Ohh so true!! Even when it’s been pointed out, it’s impossible to change this mindset.

      2. Claire says:

        Would it be typical for a narcissist to engage in beating oneself up for sympathy?

        1. HG Tudor says:

          Figuratively? Mid Rangers, yes.

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