The Faces of Devaluation



This period of the narcissistic dynamic is regarded as always being part of the dynamic and understandably the worst part of it. Those who consider it as an ever present part of the dynamic however are over-stating its presence because whether devaluation appears at all and if it does, how it will manifest, depends very much on the nature of the dynamic with our appliances.

Commencing with the Tertiary Source, most of the time our engagements with Tertiary Sources do not include any devaluation. There are two main reasons for this :-

  1. The engagement is brief. We either engage with the Tertiary Source once, for a short time and never again or we engage with them repeatedly but it is only ever brief in nature; and
  2. The needs of the façade mean that engaging with the Tertiary Source in a benign way is the most effective method of proceeding.

It is the case however that Tertiary Sources are devalued. They will be insulted, ignored, triangulated with other superior-ranking sources. This devaluation may be because the Tertiary Source has ignited our fury (for instance a bar tender failing to serve us ahead of someone else) but the devaluation may just occur because we regard it as an expedient response. For instance, we see that it would draw amusement or admiration from our friends (Non Intimate Secondary Sources) if we pour scorn on a homeless person in the street or we insult the waitress in a bar. Neither of these people will have necessarily criticised us but we consider them expendable and by devaluing them we gain negative fuel from them and positive fuel from other sources.

Any devaluation of a Tertiary Source is short in duration. It is a burst of negative fuel but it is not hugely potent (indeed the admiration from the secondary or primary source which it brings about is more potent) when compared to other sources and the quantity of fuel provided is low. This is because the Tertiary Source will not be bound to us and therefore after a period of time of responding in a manner which provides this negative fuel the Tertiary Source more often than not will dis-engage.

The period of devaluation for a Tertiary Source may be less than a minute if they provide negative fuel and then back off. Of course if they continue to engage us and provide Challenge Fuel, we will keep provoking them and also asserting our perceived superiority over them in order to put them in their place. We also of course cannot have some upstart Tertiary source making us look bad in front of other superior sources. We are unlikely to keep ‘pursuing’ the Tertiary Source. Thus, if we upbraid a waiter and he retreats to the kitchen, we are unlikely to follow him and keep the devaluation going. Instead, we take the negative fuel from his angry reaction and let him withdraw. We consider it largely beneath us to keep pressing such an individual. Of course, if the waiter returns to us, we will devalue again and keep doing so for as long as he keeps appearing in front of us.

It is unlikely that the Tertiary Source will be smeared as a consequence of this devaluation because ultimately within our fuel matrix the Tertiary Source is not of significant importance and therefore it is not worth expending the energy and time on smearing them.

We may see this Tertiary Source on another occasion and provoke them again or we may engage with them in a benign fashion. It does not matter to us how we treated them on the previous interaction because of the way we compartmentalise.

In respect of secondary sources, devaluation does occur but if and when it does, it is for a reason which is directly linked to the behaviour of the secondary source.

If someone is a non-intimate secondary source, therefore they are a family member, friend or colleague, they will usually enjoy an elongated golden period. Devaluation of the secondary source will only occur where that individual has sought to expose us, challenge us extensively or has turned off the fuel supply completely. The devaluation will be longer than that of the Tertiary Source because the secondary source will be bound more closely to us. This binding will be as a consequence of the nature of the relationship – the person is in our social circle with other people, they work with us or they are in our family circle – but also because we will have put more effort into binding them to us. Accordingly, the secondary source is less likely to withdraw in the same way that a Tertiary Source would. Instead, the secondary source is more likely to want to try to find out why they are being treated this way, to seek to make amends and to gain our favour once again. Sometimes this devaluation occurs as a consequence of needing to send a signal to other secondary sources that they ought not to cross us so that they realise it is preferable to remain loyal to us than cross us in some way.

The secondary source who is devalued is likely to be smeared by us. We will want other secondary sources of the same circle or ilk to turn against the devalued secondary source and complete their isolation and to ostracise them. We are conscious of the maintenance of the façade and therefore we will look to present a reason for why this secondary source has fallen from favour, is no longer invited, is not welcome at certain gatherings and so forth.

The period of devaluation for a secondary source varies in terms of the actual engagement and the period over which the person is regarded as ‘black’. If the secondary source wants to talk to us to find out why they are treated this way, we will keep devaluing them so this might be a matter of minutes or a couple of hours. If they remain proximate to us and keep providing negative fuel, we will keep devaluing and provoking them. If they retreat and try to engage us on another occasion, they will remain ‘black’ until they do something (or there is an external act) which causes us to regard them as ‘white’ and we welcome them to the fold again. For instance, if the secondary source seeks forgiveness and has a residual benefit we want, we will extend our graciousness to admit them into the relevant circle again. If we see no purpose, other than negative fuel, then they remain painted ‘black’ and they will be dis-engaged from and we will find a replacement for them soon enough.

In some instances the secondary source may dis-engage and have nothing more to do with us, thus a friend never socialises with us, the family member withdraws or the colleague moves workplaces or department. Sometimes they may not have such an option and instead they remain in effect a scapegoat for us, remaining ‘black’ for years and are devalued further each time there is any interaction with us. Thus, every time there is a family gathering they will be subject to contemptuous comments, triangulation or silent treatments. Of course, this long-lasting devaluation may be intermittent as we may only see this secondary source at certain events or places. Similar to the tertiary source we will rarely keep seeking out the secondary source to devalue him or her.

Where the secondary source is of an intimate variety, either an IPSS or DSIPSS, then the dynamic alters. There are two potential forms of devaluation.

The first is used as a corrective measure to bring the IPSS or DSIPSS back into line. Thus devaluation and dis-engagement is not a certainty but instead, if the IPSS or DSIPSS responds favourably to this ‘warning’ then the devaluation will halt and the golden period continues. This is because the IPSS or DSIPSS’s fuel is regarded as still valuable and not stale and devaluation is used because they are not complying as they ought to do. This corrective devaluation brings them back into line and thus the corrective devaluation halts.

The second is where the IPSS or DSIPSS does not respond to the warning and thus their failure and treachery means that he or she must now be punished as we head towards dis-engagement. The devaluation in this instance will be more intense than the corrective devaluation but it will not last for long because either the IPSS or DSIPSS stays out of our way or if they do not, we want to turn to a different IPSS or DSIPSS (or find a new one) and therefore dis-engagement comes along quickly.

Finally there is the IPPS. The Intimate Partner Primary Source is the person who suffers the longest devaluation, the harshest devaluation and is the one which is recognised by most people. This happens because

  1. You promised to be The One. Your failure to live up to our ideals mean you must be punished, we are not going to let you off the hook easily;
  2. Your negative fuel is potent, plentiful and frequent and therefore we want to keep drawing that from you;
  3. This negative fuel also provides contrast and the motivation for our seduction of your potential replacement;
  4. You are bound to us and therefore you are far less likely to withdraw from us. This binding is both emotional and non-emotional. Emotionally it arises because you want to return to the golden period, you want to make everything alright, you are a love devotee and want to have love triumph, you may well be co-dependent, you do not want to admit defeat and you are addicted to us. The non-emotional are matters such as finances, children, house, family pressures and so forth. The combination of these factors means that you cling to us and because you most likely live with us your devaluation occurs each day;
  5. We grant you Respite Periods. This takes place within the umbrella of the Devaluation Period and means that you are given renewed hope (so you stick around) and also it means your potential for becoming numbed and unresponsive is reduced by these periods which allow you to gather some strength again;
  6. The IPPS may be the only person in our fuel matrix who is being devalued and this will usually take place behind closed doors to preserve the façade so there is less likelihood of external interference which will disrupt the devaluation.

The devaluation of the IPPS is the most brutal of all the devaluations of appliances, it continues for the longest, it can be years, even decades in some instances and within this devaluation comes a whole host of manipulations and abuses which cover the emotional, the financial, the sexual and the physical.

22 thoughts on “The Faces of Devaluation

  1. Caroline-is-fine says:

    If a Greater has a family member as an NIPPS, how does the family member fare, in terms of degree of punishments/devaluation? Any significant difference?

    1. HG Tudor says:

      It would be extremely rare for a Greater to have a family member as a NIPPS.

      1. Caroline-is-fine says:

        Ok, thanks, HG.

      2. alexissmith2016 says:

        What about in the case of Jimmy Saville?

        Quite a rare example. Would his mum have suffered hugely HG or was it his other fuel sources who suffered the most?.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          Most likely the non-intimate version of a Stepford Devaluation. She would be largely idealised and his malice meted out on hundreds of secondary source and tertiary source victims.

          1. alexissmith2016 says:

            Ah so please I received a notification for this one (I’d forgotten where I’d written this comment). Extremely interesting. Thank you once again. I’m feeling a bit spoiled today. I should let someone else have a turn.

          2. alexissmith2016 says:

            It literally never ceases to amaze me how you know all of this.

          3. HG Tudor says:

            Vast intelligence, savage work ethic, keen observation and driven by pride. All equal brilliance.

          4. alexissmith2016 says:

            I don’t doubt it at all! I’m still in awe though! It’s incredible! You’re incredible! albeit not very nice. gritted smiling teeth emoji

  2. zwartbolleke says:

    Mr Tudor I have a question. When you are writing these articles, forgive me: excellent articles, don’t you ever think by yourself when you explain all that ridiculous behaviour: oh my god, why don’t we just enjoy the sun, a glass of wine, a good book and my gigantic bank account and leave everybody to live in peace?
    I understand well enough for a narcissist it’s about fuel and control, but when you write this down, and you read this with the mind of an outsider, don’t you ever think what-on-earth-are-we-doing?
    Can you imagine what I think when I read this? I can only laugh with such behaviour, honestly. I have lots of collegues doing exactly as you described in this article. The non-narcissist at work such as me, we experience absolutely no control in such behaviour. Zero. In fact we make fun of it.
    (Have to admit I have a big mouth, some indeed are scared by the lash-outs, fury and smear campaigns)

    1. HG Tudor says:

      If by “we” you mean all narcissists then the answer is no, because the vast majority of narcissists do not know what they are and therefore see no issue with what they say and do, either through a total lack of awareness of because it is justified.

    2. Lorelei says:

      A good question—they walk around imprisoned by a defense mechanism essentially. The lessers are the truly ridiculous because the behaviors are not even masked with an elaborate facade.

  3. Wiser says:

    The narchole that I dumped nine years ago used a hell of a devaluation cycle. I will add that was the last narc I have been intimately involved with.

    He was a real nut case would start fights out of the blue told me lies about how everyone loved his ex and it culminated with him phoning the police on me when I picked up the last of my items at his place thank God I never moved in.

    Then he went full court press trying to woo me back. Everything failed.

    I lurked and found out, surprise surprise. His new victim is a man.

    Have I missed the part about the majority of narcissistic males are closeted bisexual?

      1. Wiser says:

        Thanks just bought the ebook it will start on it now.

        Have absorbed much of your videos very
        helpful. I’m a widow & being careful about dating bringing new guys around etc. you know how vulnerable widows can be. But not me so far so good. I spot and block narcissists I laugh at their antics. So obvious they think everybody is stupid and to be played. Silly flattery love bombing mirroring staring etc. Nope!

        I’ll come back to this thread and review the e-book.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          Thank you for doing so.

      2. alexissmith2016 says:

        HG, as a guess. What percentage of Ns would you say are bisexual? and does this lend itself to any particular school/cadre more than any other?

        1. HG Tudor says:

          It depends on the cadre, naturally with Somatic it will be highest amongst them, around 60-70%.

          1. alexissmith2016 says:

            Jeees! Okay then presumably elites are around the 50% mark

          2. alexissmith2016 says:

            This explains so much, so very much indeed!

          3. zwartbolleke says:

            Oh my God!

  4. Christopher Jackson says:

    Very true this peice as well very detailed I appreciate that spelled out to the”T” once again very good caption and very true I swear my mother was in devaluation for like 10 + years and I often wonder how we got here…but oh wait the “golden period” must have commenced once again I’m sure of it

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