Kiss Me



The kiss is probably the pinnacle of romanticism from everything that I have observed. The couple who flirt with one another throughout the film in an attempt to create a will they or won’t they scenario, finally kiss and everybody smiles. The kidnapped child is finally reunited with his parents and is smothered in relieved kisses. The power of seduction that exists in that first kiss between a passionate couple which then leads to their love making. A kiss good bye on a steam filled railway platform. As ever, books and films have played their part in elevating the status of the kiss to near legendary status.

Like so much of what I do, the kiss is a weapon which I use to maximise the impact of my machinations. At the outset I shall use it to overpower you. You are unlikely to have much resistance to my overtures following my campaign of love-bombing but if there is any it will be obliterated the first time I kiss you. I have studied a thousand  kisses. From Burt Lancaster and Deborah Kerr in From Here to Eternity to Clark Gable and Vivien Leigh in Gone With the Wind through to Demi Moore and Patrick Swayze in Ghost. I have viewed Audrey Hepburn jump from her taxi to kiss George Peppard in the rain in the film, Breakfast at Tiffany’s and the post-nuptial kiss between Prince Charles and Princess Diana. It is not just the famous kisses that have been subjected to my scrutiny. I have sat at railway stations and watched the greeting kiss, full of excitement and passion or the departure kiss which encapsulates longing. I have watched the almost frenzied and desperate embrace that arises from a man finally ensnaring his quarry in a nightclub after spending a couple of hours chatting her up. Whilst sipping from my drink in a restaurant I see hundreds of kisses between spouses, lovers, friends and acquaintances all delivered in different styles with varying emphasises. All of this knowledge is collated and stored ready for my use.

I have been told many times how good a kisser I am. I am blessed with full lips and therefore do not suffer the sometimes dispassionate affliction that can befall those who have lips of a thinner nature. From my observations I have learned to make my advance slowly, lingering just in front of the other person’s lips as I reach a hand up to cradle their neck and let my fingers lightly caress the back of their neck. My soft lips press gently against theirs and then I retreat slightly before advancing again and then retreating. I do this several times before allowing my mouth to press on to theirs and remain there as we lock our embrace, lips moving slowly together, each time moving a little wider until a tentative tongue gently probes and touches against hers. My tongue flicks back and forth as the embrace grows stronger. I can hear her low moan of delight and know that this approach is working. I reach another arm around her and pull her closer to me, bodies pressed against one another and now her mouth has opened wider, her own tongue almost battling with mine. I know that the tingle will be racing up and down her spine; I know that she will feel the churning in her stomach and that light headedness will be sweeping across her. I am well practised in the art of the seductive kiss and during our golden period I shall allow you to experience it often. I shall do it when we meet in my house at the end of the day, I will embrace you in that fashion when I lead you by the hand to our bedroom and I shall surprise you by grabbing hold of you in the lift and kissing you in this way.

What of course is all the sweeter about being able to embrace you in such a scintillating fashion is the fact that I will withdraw this marvellous kiss. You will take hold of me and push your mouth against mine only to find that my lips are set rigid and do not respond in the way you have been used to. There is no warmth or passion. You wonder where it has gone. The truth is that there was never any there to begin with. Like so much of what I do, it is an artifice purely designed to capture you and make the inevitable denigration all the more contrasting. I can see the confusion in your eyes as you try again to kiss me but the effect is the same. You look at me, eyes searching for an answer but I do not offer one. You ask me what is wrong and I look away and say that there is nothing wrong. I have a variety of responses which confuse you when you try to kiss me or expect to be kissed. When once I kissed you often and repeatedly I will reduce it to next to nothing. This reduction coupled with a lack of explanation has you flailing around for some kind of reason. You end up blaming yourself of course that is to be expected. I will do any or all of the following:-

  1. Remain tight-lipped when we kiss;
  2. Move my head so you kiss my cheek rather than my mouth;
  3. Put my hand up and block your advance;
  4. Hug you instead so that your kiss flies into thin air over my shoulder
  5. Just walk away

Where once my kiss was magical and uplifting, now it is cold or non-existent. You relished our passionate embraces and now you find yourself remarking how it is like kissing an automaton or a mannequin. I do not care. All I wish to achieve is your pained and hurt reaction to the cold front that I exhibit where once there was heat and passion.

151 thoughts on “Kiss Me

  1. Bubbles 🍾 says:

    Dear Pati,
    Are you sure he’s a narc ? He sounds more like your typical average blokey bloke
    Narcs generally have issues with the other fruits of their loins and usually there’s only one who is the shiniest and fairest of them all
    Yes, Mr Bubbles is my other castanet or clacker … will click beautifully together …. 😂
    Luv Bubbles xx 😘

    1. Pati says:

      Dear Bubbles,
      Are you asking me if my husband is a Narc?
      Yes he is and HG confirmed it.
      I am so glad you are in a healthy relationship it must be nice.
      Love Pati

      1. Bubbles 🍾 says:

        Dear Pati,
        I’m so glad Mr Tudor confirmed it for you … at least you know what your dealing with
        It wasn’t always nice Pati, I left home to get married as a, “way out” from my narc mother n narc step dad, only to end up marrying a narc, I didn’t know at the time………he literally “changed overnight” after the wedding
        He’d kick my cats out the way, I had to account for every cent I spent and produce the shopping dockets which he scrutinised, he became extremely jealous and accused me of all sorts, he distanced me from family n friends and he timed how long it took me to get home from work, there was no sex from the wedding night onwards, he ruined my 21st (I didn’t have one) as he decided to work instead and didn’t give me a present, criticised my cooking and had to make what he wanted, didn’t approve anything I wore, the house wasn’t cleaned how he’d liked it, he snooped thru all my things and I wasn’t allowed to buy anything without his approval….l was in constant tears
        It was very short lived, my mantra at the time was …. “if I stay I’m going to continually be unhappy, if I leave I will be happy”
        So I left
        It wasn’t easy… as we had just built a new house
        I had to plan it when he went to work, I took the day off work and moved, my brother helped me and I went to live with him short term, til I found a place of my own
        One of the neighbours, bloody dobber, saw me loading the trailer, rang him at work and told him the house was being robbed ……..he was on his way home …luckily I was gone before he arrived
        I only took what was mine and left the rest
        Mr Bubbles had always been in the background as a “loyal friend” ..he’s been consistent since the day I met him and we’ve known each other since childhood …. marrying him was the best decision ever
        Luv Bubbles xx 😘

        1. Bubbles 🍾 says:

          Ps …I found out later he became a Jehovah Witness (why am I not surprised, haha) ….. never remarried and no kids
          When I met him he was so nice, caring, loving, giving, thoughtful…just goes to show 😱
          Luv Bubbles xx 😘

          1. Pati says:

            They put on a good show !

  2. Gypsy Heart says:

    You all crack me up when you get HG going with the banter. Funny the banter was more exciting than the idea of that first kiss. Guess I’ve never been kissed properly!

  3. misstasia says:

    If my MMR would have been a good kisser it would have been a consolation prize at very least. Maybe that is why I don’t miss him or his embrace they were both cold. What I do miss is my dog that he has(not the dog kisses lol) just the snuggles. I was always told I was a good kisser, hmm, my ex-husband was a good kisser too. Come to think of it knowing what I know now he was a narcissist too, damn it. Oh, what fools us Empaths be.

  4. LK says:

    Ugh… this is so true it actually makes me feel sick

  5. Gypsy Heart says:

    Oh yes, the kiss! He definitely knew that if he could secure that first kiss he would seal the deal. It wasn’t even a romantic leaning in, feeling his breath against mine, lips mm apart anticipating his tongue entwined with mine. Nope it happened bam! He lunged at me while I was talking midsentence. But it worked, and that describes him. No patience or waiting when he wants something. He has to have it then and there.

    There are even song lyrics perfectly describing where we often kissed. “When I’m away, I will remember how you kissed me under the lamppost back on sixth street”. “Wait for me to come home ” (more future faking).

    And oh, how excruciating when he started to withhold those kisses. I would stop under the lamppost and he would say we shouldn’t, I’m concerned we might get caught. Funny that never concerned him during seduction.

    To me the kiss is even more intimate than sex, and expresses him losing interest when he would withhold it. Interestingly enough I start losing that connection too, with the loss of the kiss. That will be my first red flag. Good luck in the future boys. Withhold the kiss and I am outta there!

  6. Witch says:

    “I am blessed with full lips and therefore do not suffer the sometimes dispassionate affliction that can befall those who have lips of a thinner nature.”

    This killed me! Lmao

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Sounds like you need the kiss of life then.

      1. MB says:

        Prince Charming

      2. Pati says:

        HG, kissing is healthy ,we all need it .you do say you have full lips eh?

      3. MB says:

        It’s the kiss of my life I’m waiting for!

    2. Violetta says:

      Thin lips can work just fine. Better than a drooler, anyhow. the

      1. HG Tudor says:

        Stop kissing dogs then!

        1. Violetta says:

          Dogs kiss ME. They try to put their tongues in my mouth, and they don’t even do dinner or a movie first. The CADS.

          1. HG Tudor says:


          2. Pati says:

            They can lick your Injured knee it will heal. Lol

          3. HG Tudor says:

            All good on that front thank you.

          4. MB says:

            Pati, was it his knee that was injured/re-injured? I missed the details. I only saw the crutch and legs on IG.

          5. Pati says:

            MB You did the Three That Got Away right ?

          6. MB says:

            Yes I did Pati. I thought you were talking about his recent injury. The pic from IG. I can’t follow all of the threads on the blog so I thought it may have been discussed somewhere. The truth seeker in me wanted to know. Was it his knee, ankle, big toe? How did it happen? Did it require surgery? You know, all the pertinent details that are absolutely none of my business 🤣

          7. Pati says:

            Oh no MB not at all ! It was in the article the Three that Got Away when he talked about his injured knee . Oh yes the Instagram pic not sure of those were crutches or not . Sorry if I didnt explain myself properly. I am a truth seeker too.
            I need to know everything.
            Hugs xoxo

          8. Violetta says:

            I agree. Especially the part about no dinner or movie first. What kind of a girl do they think I am?

          9. HG Tudor says:

            A dog´s breakfast evidently.

          10. MB says:

            Ewwww Violetta!

          11. Violetta says:

            No, they try it even if I’m wearing corporate casual. And babies want to eat my fingers.

      2. MB says:

        Violetta, What about drooling and trying to lick your tonsils 🤮. Please God let me experience a proper kiss before I shuffle off this mortal coil!

        1. Violetta says:

          Erg. First make out partner in Jr. High did do tongue right away, no lip-play, but not a drooler. And he didn’t rotate his tongue clockwise around mine, like that was supposed to achieve something, the way one date did.

          1. MB says:

            Violetta, that is a lot of detail! Ha ha I can see how wrestling with a rogue tongue could be problematic. Your dog has probably had more kissing partners than me so I really have nothing much to add. I’ll have to live vicariously. You can keep the dog kisses all for yourself though! 😂

          2. Violetta says:

            I don’t have a dog. I do pet strangers’ dogs on the street, and many of them try to kiss me. I’m told this is a remnant of wolf cub behavior: the mother usually swallows prey for the cubs whole rather than dragging it back to the den, and licking the corner of her mouth starts a puke reflex. So basically, they see me as their Mum. ❤️

          3. Violetta says:

            MB: HG clearly got one thing that some men never learn their whole lives: gentle nibbling before the tongue goes in.

            That could probably work as a metaphor for a number of things, so I’ll stop there.

          4. MB says:

            Violetta, I think you’re right. Re: some men never get it right. Mine is untrainable, but not a Narc, so there is that! If I have to choose good kisser narc, vs bad kisser normal for the rest of my life, I have to go with the latter. Why can’t I just have it all! 😩😩😩

          5. Lorelei says:

            Why is he untrainable? MB—throw him down on the bed and give orders. I
            mean it. It is not impossible and you can do this. I don’t prefer it myself—I’d rather they take charge and just do it but he’s proven this is not his default. Only you are able to reset the start button.

          6. MB says:

            Lorelei, what a funny visual! Thanks for the laugh 😆 I shouldn’t say he’s untrainable. That’s doing him down unfairly. The truth is, I gave up.

          7. Pati says:

            My ex boyfriend years back , actually bite my tongue .
            He was an aggressive kisser .

        2. NarcAngel says:

          This conversation is making me nauseous (and not just the dog kisses).

          1. MB says:

            I know, right NA! Just guessing that you’re not real big on kissing humans. Correct me if I’m wrong. It’s quite intimate IMO.

          2. Lorelei says:

            I don’t kiss dogs.

          3. Pati says:

            Late dedicate a song to HG, who let the dogs who who who, fior who let the Narcs out !

  7. #hgfan says:

    I can spot a kiss minus emotion at 100 paces. Ugh.
    The first kiss my narc gave me felt weird. He actually TOLD me he was a good kisser!
    Oh…not forgetting the kisses on the head!

    1. NarcAngel says:

      Whenever someone tells me they are good at something, I say with a smile and in a light tone: I love your confidence, but that’s really for me (or others) to decide. How they handle or respond to that is very telling.

  8. Emextraordinaire says:

    Quite quickly this it the first to go and the first sign to let go unnoticed until…

  9. Emextraordinaire says:

    Withdraw this marvelous kiss…

  10. Esther says:

    How exciting!! Can I have a kiss HG!? 🥰hahaha 😁

  11. Pati says:

    I just want your extra time and your 👄👄👄 kiss

    1. HG Tudor says:

      One of ours.

      1. Pati says:

        Because your kiss your kiss is on my list
        HALL and OATES! This ones mine .

        1. Violetta says:

          Lends new meaning to Faith Hill’s line, “it’s criminal”:

          I don’t want another heartbreak
          I don’t need another turn to cry
          I don’t want to learn the hard way
          Baby, hello, oh, no, goodbye
          But you got me like a rocket
          Shooting straight across the sky
          It’s the way you love me
          It’s a feeling like this
          It’s centrifugal motion
          It’s perpetual bliss
          It’s that pivotal moment
          It’s impossible
          This kiss, this kiss (Unstoppable)
          This kiss, this kiss
          Cinderella said to Snow White
          How does love get so off course
          All I wanted was a white knight
          With a good heart, soft touch, fast horse
          Ride me off into the sunset
          Baby, I’m forever yours
          It’s the way you love me
          It’s a feeling like this
          It’s centrifugal motion
          It’s perpetual bliss
          It’s that pivotal moment
          It’s unthinkable
          This kiss, this kiss (Unsinkable)
          This kiss, this kiss
          You can kiss me in the moonlight
          On the rooftop under the sky
          You can kiss me with the windows open
          While the rain comes pouring inside
          Kiss me in sweet slow motion
          Let’s let every thing slide
          You got me floating, you got me flying
          It’s the way you love me
          It’s a feeling like this
          It’s centrifugal motion
          It’s perpetual bliss
          It’s that pivotal moment
          It’s subliminal
          This kiss, this kiss (It’s Criminal)
          This kiss, this kiss

      2. Layla says:

        Not a chance!

      3. Mary Robinson says:

        Prince was a narc?

        1. HG Tudor says:

          That is what I stated.

          1. Pati says:

            He was also Jehavas Witness, and he would go door to door. I take it he got fuel from that.

          2. HG Tudor says:

            Not if the door was unanswered.

          3. Pati says:

            True ,its funny how so.many N are religous. You would think they would be empathic people . Interesting you learn something new everday.

          4. Kim e says:

            They are only religious if it gives them fuel. It is ALL a lie.

          5. Pati says:

            They lie to themselves and God!
            They are probably all atheists.

          6. Kim e says:

            If being an atheists gets them fuel, then they are. If being the cookie monster gets them fuel, they would turn blue in a minute.
            (My youngest keeps telling me he is an atheist until Chrsitams rolls around and I tell him he cant have gifts to celebrate the birth of someone he doesn’t belive in. He just laughs….LOL0

          7. Pati says:

            Haha good one They will do anything for fuel.
            I need to say something about my situation. one of my sons was diagnosed with a mental illness and tried to commit suicide. My husband did safe him a lot of times from jumping. Now you see my situation. My son is stable now and is on the right path thank god. Why was husband so caring why Kim?

      4. Renarde says:

        Knew it! Prince. I never warmed to him. I could see he was a genious and I do like his songs but he left me cold.

        Prince was obsessed with paisley. I have a lovely cloth paisley brooch which is on my blazer. I also have a postcard of part of the Mandlebrot on my wall.

        One day I was just gazing at both and then it struck me that the subset of the Mandlebrot, the Julia set (first to be discovered) was stylistically very close to the paisley motif.

        This does not surprise me but it was a real a-ha! Moment. Ancient cultures, Hindu and of course sanskrit, knew what they were doing. It’s only the arrogance of western cultures who think they are superior. The Arabs for example knew about optics long before Newton caught on.

        What the Hindus were doing with Tantra, well, its astounding. Tantra isnt really about sex. Its about energy raising. I’ve deliberately chosen at this point not to study it. I want to be The Fool here. I’d far rather let the mystery be unfolded rather than take on western interpretations. However the Hindu concept of ‘prana’ is INCREDIBLY important to Empaths. Prana is the life force. The natural energy that Emps can naturally sustain but must be harvested by narcs. Fuel.

        To bring this back on point, my very first kiss was when I was 3. I felt the energy of the kundalini rising within me. I would get a strange squirmy kind of feeling in my belly. This was my sacral (orange) chakra unfurling. Dont get me wrong. Those kisses were innocent. They truly were. I’ve never been sexually abused. I dont think anyone would dare to be honest.

        The funny feeling kind of peaked around 6 or 7? By puberty it had gone. Even now as an experienced energy practitioner, I’ve never felt it again. Not like when I was a child.

        But oh my god, he was a fucking crap kisser.

    2. Lorelei says:

      Prince was a fabulous concert. Saw him 13 years ago. I was pregnant. He didn’t finish a song—he knew the audience would want this and denied it!

      1. HG Tudor says:

        His autobiography “The Beautiful Ones” comes out tomorrow. He only wrote a first draft (in pencil) with regard to his childhood and then died. He selected a white, 29 year old writer, who was not from Minneapolis, who had never written book, to assist him with writing the autobiography.

        One of Prince´s favourite films was Kung Fu Panda 3. He also stated that he wanted to “solve racism”.

        1. Lorelei says:

          Stupid favorite movie—lacks culture. Grandiose to solve racial issues. Was his plan on a global scale? Writes in pencil—enough said. I did find him to be a musical talent though—just not a well rounded genius.

          1. HG Tudor says:

            Yes his plan was on a global scale.

          2. Lorelei says:

            Very grandiose. Fun concert though. I wore a green skirt.

          3. HG Tudor says:

            What shade of green?

          4. Lorelei says:


          5. HG Tudor says:

            Olivine, olive drab or olive green?

          6. Lorelei says:

            Army olive—try being pregnant with no options.

          7. FoolMe1Time says:

            HG Why would you egg her on?

          8. HG Tudor says:

            I am not.

          9. Desirée says:

            “Army olive” IS olive drab. I’m not sure it flatters you the most, try emerald next time!

          10. HG Tudor says:

            Indeed it is. Shit, I am getting dragged into this. Think I will go and hoover an ex instead, far healthier.

          11. FoolMe1Time says:

            You put yourself in there HG. Lol

          12. Lorelei says:

            I love emerald green!

          13. Pati says:

            I like lime green it’s so bright . It will match HG bright orange shorts . Dont forget your sunglasses. Lol

          14. HG Tudor says:

            I am obliged you did not refer to them as being red.

          15. Pati says:

            The bright colour orange capri ( not red ) brings out your tanned legs
            You need to admit that.

          16. Lorelei says:

            Why does HG not like shorts referred to as red?

          17. NarcAngel says:

            Because his shorts are not red but tangerine. He likes things to be accurate.

          18. HG Tudor says:


          19. Pati says:

            I think because sometimes we see things differently from their perspective of I am not mistaken.

          20. Lorelei says:

            I know! Olive green often sucks but I was pregnant with a limited selection! I was pregnant 3 out of 4 years a decade ago. It was crazy.

          21. Desirée says:

            Enlighten us…HG. As a man of refined taste, you must have an excellent eye for colours and look formidable in Navy Blue, Azure in the summer.

          22. HG Tudor says:

            I cannot disagree and bravo!

          23. Pati says:

            HG do you like wearing ties that match your girlfriends dress. I also see that at weddings these days . Would it be considering mirroring ?

          24. HG Tudor says:

            Their dress matches my tie. HG first.

          25. Pati says:

            Oops sorry Sir my mistake.

          26. PrincessSuperEmpath says:

            Desiree and Lorelai: I have been thinking, and now I want a Designer Handbag or other high quality handbag. It is your fault, Lorelei. But, in NYC, Chanel and YSL are everywhere, although I have nothing against those brands. And they do hold their monetary value very well, I hear. However, I would not mind a designer handbag, but that is sort of different, just like the Tissot brand of watch, is rather different for around here. If no one really knows who makes the handbag while I am wearing it, I would not have a problem with that, either. As long as I am satisfied just like with a Tissot watch. Could you give me some Brands of handbags to look into? Thank you.

          27. Lorelei says:

            Brahmin is fun too! I have a lovely one for this fall!

        2. MB says:

          HG, do you think the autobiography will be worth reading or FOS? (Full O’ Shit)

          1. HG Tudor says:

            I can predict it will be short. Like its subject.

          2. MB says:

            You always make me laugh HG

          3. HG Tudor says:

            I know. Cool huh?

          4. MB says:

            It is way cool HG. I’m pleased to have you virtually in my life.

          5. HG Tudor says:

            You are a lucky lady.

          6. MB says:


          7. WhoCares says:

            “I can predict it will be short. Like its subject.”


            MB – will you read it? I’m with Lorelei; I like his music.

          8. MB says:

            WhoCares, I probably won’t read it. I like his music but I don’t consider myself a fan. He did the best half time show at the Super Bowl that I’ve seen in a long while.

            Right now, I’m just trying to get through ‘Catch and Kill’. The way it is written, I’m having a hard time following. I get lost. HGs writing has spoiled me!

        3. Pati says:

          Thank you for sharing this, I am huge fan of Prince.
          I am also a huge fan of you too HG!

          1. HG Tudor says:

            Thank you. I am alive, so that´s a bonus.

          2. Pati says:

            It certainly is . I pinch myself and say to myself I am still alive . Alive and Kicking ( Simple minds)

        4. lisk says:

          Well, there’s always Elton John’s, “Me,” which recently came out . . . or “dropped,” as they now annoyingly say.

          1. HG Tudor says:

            “Dropped”. Ridiculous isn’t it. It really ought to be, er, dropped.

          2. Pati says:

            I am listening to George Michael Faith Album
            What do you think of him ?
            I dont think he was Narc.

          3. Violetta says:

            I don’t get that. When agents figure you aren’t worth it, they drop you. Why is this a good thing to do to music? Didn’t they use to release music, just like movies? It’s not that long ago.

          4. lisk says:


            I was referring to the usage of “drop” in entertainment media, e.g., “Taylor Swift’s new album, Scary Swift, drops on October 31st. Celine Dion’s new album, Celine Sings Celine, drops just in time for Christmas giving.”

          5. Lorelei says:

            Lisk—I see Elton next month! Nearly first row. Excited.

          6. Violetta says:

            Lisk: I’ve heard it, I just think it’s bizarre.

          7. NarcAngel says:

            I’m reading Elton John’s “Me” right now. Interesting to read things from his point of view when you know what he is, because I don’t think he does.

          8. HG Tudor says:


          9. lisk says:

            . . . which is hilariously ironic, given the title he chose for his book.

          10. Violetta says:

            I took Elton’s book out of the library today, but I’m probably going to read Henry James’s ghost story collection tonight in honor of Halloween. OTOH, James might be less frightening than some of the chemicals Elton poured into himself when he was younger.

          11. NarcAngel says:

            In “Me” you will see endless flapping red flags of narcissism but note how he acknowledges and explains his behaviour but takes no real responsibility for it. It’s exactly as HG describes. In the moment, instinctive, and mostly thinking they’re the victim.

          12. Witch says:

            Read the turn of the screw by Henry James, if you haven’t already, it’s an amazing ghost tale

        5. Emextraordinaire says:


        6. Yolo says:

          The 29 year old non writer probably shared other things in common with him. Opioids??? Very sad, so many people have been affected by them. H.G. no fuel giving!! With all the raging fires.

          During a interview a bystander( homeowner)with no emotions told the reporter ” we are going to Hawaii” hopefully this will be over when we return”. My cousin was shocked and kept ask asking if she heard her correctly. 😂😂 I referred her to the blog for the 10th time. Happy Narc Day..🥳👹☠

      2. Pati says:

        Prince is an excellent singer/song writer.
        I wonder is he A Narc
        I know he was Jehovas Witness

        Purple Rain best movie/soundtrack

        1. HG Tudor says:

          Already answered that.

          1. Pati says:

            Yes you did sorry about that he is one of yours.
            Thank you

          2. HG Tudor says:

            Quite alright.

          3. lisk says:

            I wonder, could Prince have been such a great entertainer had he not been a narc?

            I’m guessing that talent is not necessarily narcissism-dependent, but putting that talent out into the world is.

          4. HG Tudor says:

            Valid observation.

          5. Lorelei says:

            Lisk—he would not have been such a great entertainer without the narcissism. Part of his allure on stage was not finishing a song—the need to capture and control what the crowd wanted. It’s like a narcissist stopping in the middle of sex. Ever had that happen? It’s ups the ante on the dynamic. An empath would finish the song and give the crowd what they rightfully paid for. (Honesty and decency)

          6. lisk says:

            I’m pretty sure Mick Jagger finished most of his songs onstage. He may not have got his satisfaction yet, but he sure has given it.

          7. NarcAngel says:

            I wonder what women have to think about to stomach having sex with the likes of Mick Jagger or Steven Tyler. Creepier yet – Gene Simmons.

          8. HG Tudor says:

            Dollars or pounds sterling

          9. Pati says:

            Lol, more like steel.

          10. Lorelei says:

            None of them strike my fancy.

          11. Lorelei says:

            Mick Jagger is unusual. He’s ok.

          12. alexissmith2016 says:

            Is Stephen Graham one of yours HG? a MMRN perhaps?

          13. HG Tudor says:

            He is a fine actor.

          14. alexissmith2016 says:

            He most certainly is

          15. WhoCares says:


            “I wonder what women have to think about to stomach having sex with the likes of Mick Jagger or Steven Tyler. Creepier yet – Gene Simmons.”

            That made me laugh.
            How *did* Liv Tyler happen??

      3. PrincessSuperEmpath says:

        Well, Prince can do no wrong to me, at least. If anyone wants to type about those people from the United States, with racially confused theories and sweet dreams that they have of global racial unity, because they are confused by all of the experimental racial and social social conditioning going on over here in full progress promoted by the governing entities, have napkins available and bandaids available. Because you will have the opportunity to type until your fingers bleed. Prince was a great artist and fought for the ability of all artists to have control of and remuneration for their work. And many powers in the arts hated him for his advocacy on behalf of artists, and the same powers hate the various laws Prince influenced to come into being that benefit all artists, including once starving artists. God Bless Him. Purple Reign. And the physical height of people is often overrated. The Borg are ugly. Variety is beautiful.

        1. lisk says:

          PSE, great point.

          Prince had the power to advocate and he leveraged it well.

          1. Lisk: Actually, Prince started advocating for artists when he had very little clout. The powers in Music were telling stations to not play his music and all that, because he spoke out. Many resisted and still played his music and many folded and did not play his music. Survival. That is understandable. He wrestled with the powers, and he was so young when he started to fight back, and often without help, because other artists were afraid to risk their own tentative standings. Survival. That is understandable, again. He wanted artists to be able to control their work more and to be paid more and to reclaim their work that was lost often through artist naivete, desperation, and various forms of deception and fraud and unreasonably sophisticated contracts and also unfair contracts and on and on. He considered changing his name to somehow be able to relicense and reproduce his work, and other ways to fight back, and he became the Artist formerly known as Prince and all of that such a thing, to fight back. HG says he is of the Narcississt brethren, therefore to Control is to Cope. Prince aided other artists in their ability to have some control and the ability to cope better in a difficult industry. An industry especially known for theft of artists` work and labor, even still. His battle brought about more fair laws and more beneficial legal precedent for all artists. His desire for artistic control for artists benefited and is still benefiting many. Many artists learned a lot from Prince`s battles. Even now artists are still fighting. Youtube baited and switched against an entire generation, and now is not willing to pay many of them, lately, more than pittances, now that Youtube is strong, but from their work. And they are complaining about youtube`s bait and switch tactic against them. Kindle and such are making a fortune on offering unlimited reading, while some of the writers are making a pittance and some other writers now are withdrawing from Kindle, because Kindle`s payment and advertising model benefitis some writers very little for the work they have placed with Kindle, etc. Taylor Smith made a stand as well against the large music apps that were ripping or are still ripping off some artists, remuneration wise, although I do not know much about what stance she took, but I do remember she came out and made a statement against at least Apple Music, if I recall correctly, because I saw her doing so, on Television, a few years ago. Disclosure: I am not a Taylor Swift enthusiast as some may know from my other posts, and I do not know much of her music, but I remember that she stood up for artists and their work and renumeration. And Rihanna spoke about how they rip off artists with their accounting methods, but she was shut down swiftly, and given more mediums to make money. The powers will remember her negatively for speaking out, when the time is right. They never forget. Hush money for now, I call it. I appreciate artists. The world would be very dull without them. They are very creative and help us to transcend the banal and the trite and the ordinary. And nothing that I am saying here is something that I googled. And more artists may be speaking up, but I know for a fact that these that I mention, did so. I do not listen to the media discuss Prince. Because the media are and have been biased against Prince for decades, because their Masters are biased against Prince. They consider him an adversary of their lucrative, but often highly unethical business mode and often fraudulent business model. And he constantly exposed what they were secretly up to. And other artists learned and slowly joined Prince in the battle for more fairness. I am sure the powers leaped for joy when he died. I am not joking. I know plenty of people like this. But, few will remember those that ripped off so many artists when they die, but many still do remember Prince and will continue to remember Prince, because he was an artist and a champion for all artists. May he R.I.P

          2. lisk says:

            Right, PSE. As I said earlier, Prince had the power to advocate and he leveraged it well.

            No doubt HG understands the need to obtain proper remuneration, as well 💵💶💷💴

          3. PrincessSuperEmpath says:

            Lisk: Yes. Prince fought the good fight. And I am a great enthusiast of altogether fit and proper remunerations. And regarding your point regarding HG Tudor, he is not only a hard worker and a smart worker, but he is also very artistic. And as the wise proverbs say: the labourer is worthy of his hire. So, Ditto!

  12. Pati says:

    HG, thank you for this one. My husbands never kisses me EVER! He turns his head or when I kiss him on lips they are so tight I cant kiss properly ! I just thought he hated French kissing

    1. Bubbles 🍾 says:

      Dear Pati,
      Has he always been like that?
      But you have 4 precious little cherubs …. i 👶👶👶👶
      Luv Bubbles xx 😘

      1. Pati says:

        Dear Bubbles,
        He never liked kissing much honestly, I do have 4 – 3 are older but he seems to give kisses to our youngest 5 year old .
        He is not very affectionate at all!
        Only if he wants something.
        Love Pati xoxo

        1. Bubbles 🍾 says:

          Dear Pati,
          Lack of affection in any relationship, will inevitably have a detrimental impact, (including the kids)
          Sounds like your youngest is currently the golden child
          I’m so sorry to hear precious, however not surprised, he uses it as a bargining chip
          Hugs n Mwah 💋 to you lovely one 😊
          Luv Bubbles xx 😘

          1. Pati says:

            She is the golden child spoiled rotten,
            Last night she needed help with her homework got frustrated, threw her pencil and starting crying . My husband did nothing squat !!!!! He said it’s ok sweety .I told my husband we need to be on the same page when we discipline her .
            He doesnt care he likes to see me upset.
            Any ideas ?

          2. Bubbles 🍾 says:

            Dear Pati,
            I’d be frustrated doing homework as well
            We never had homework at 5 years of age (I think it’s a bit much personally and totally unnecessary)….. she’s probably dog tired
            Do you follow some sort of routine or schedule when she arrives home, one simple enough for a man to follow (haha)
            Not being on the same page undermines your authority and is fraught with emotional frustration
            She will be daddy’s little girl and take sides
            How was he with your other 3 Pati?
            Mr Bubbles never likes to see me upset, but then he’s not a narc
            Luv Bubbles xx 😘

          3. Pati says:

            Bubbles .
            I try having a routine yes.
            My husband and my other kids get along fantastic!!!!!! I swear. That’s why it was hard for me to believe he is a Narc. He has never ever yelled at them or spanked them ever .he treats them amazing like gold.
            As for me is where I realized something wasnt right .
            My youngest is daddy’s girl
            You are so lucky that Mr. Bubbles is not a Narc.
            I take it that’s your other half .
            Love Pati xoxo

    2. Renarde says:

      For the Goddesses sake Pati, leave him.

      1. Pati says:

        I want to so bad , I need a plan and HG’,it not that east for me but I will eventually.
        Thank you hugs

        1. Renarde says:


          Can you supply school and cadre?


          1. Pati says:

            Lol sure. Low Midranger Narcissist – Somatic

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