A Very Royal Narcissist – Trailer

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A statement from Buckingham Palace has confirmed that Prince Harry and Meghan Markle will no longer use their HRH titles and will not receive public funds for royal duties.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex also intend to repay the money for the refurbishment of Frogmore House.

Has the fight back begun with the Palace putting its foot down or is this outcome desired by Miss Markle as part of her continuing control over Prince Harry under the facade of independence and a move away from the influence of Prince Harry´s family and the British media?

Receive the fascinating insight and accurate analysis in tomorrow’s update to the ongoing saga of A Very Royal Narcissist, only at narcsite.com

 

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  1. HG: so what about Dexter or Red on The Blacklist? Still fiction, obviously, but is either closer to the truth?

  2. Sorry, the comment about singing was to Lorelei, who asked about my vocal coach. He’s not quite ready to admit that hat MM is a full narc (he’s not ready to admit that about an actress who broke his heart some years back either), but he did acknowledge her Narcy qualities.

  3. I’ve done a few musicals, including “Into the Woods” and “Gypsy.” I have a sickening-sweet soprano, which wasn’t terribly castable when all the big roles were being written for belters.

  4. I’m wondering if she’ll adopt as her next move. I’ll bet adopting is a card she’s holding up her sleeve. They’ve said they’ll have no more than two children, for the sake of the planet, but she’s a sly dog. You could read that as two biological children. Adopting one or more children isn’t adding any more strain on the environment. She’s the type to adopt a child (and a minority, to score extra empath points). And she’s the type to have at least 4 children total, or one more than Kate at the end of the day, however many Kate ends up with.

  5. We are so aware of the fact that narcissists project, but if you look at many of the comments about Meghan, it becomes apparent that empaths project as well, and it is one of our pitfalls. People who defend Meghan, one can tell, are explaining how THEY would feel if they were in Meghan’s shoes, and they assume that she is wired like an empath. They don’t realize that Meghan feels something entirely different. They imagine how the racist comments and criticism would affect them, and say that Meghan just “fell in love” so of course she wanted to join the BRF, as if “falling in love” is good enough reason to toss out any rational considerations of the situation, like whether or not you want to be a working royal. No wonder narcissists see us as such easy prey. It is shocking and incomprehensible to us that anyone would prefer power over love.

    The thing that frightens me most about Meghan is that she seems to really enjoy negative fuel, and in a sense she is trolling the BRF. She likes making a mess and watching the aftermath. I hope Charles is prepared for this too, because MM isn’t going away too soon.

  6. I don’t know if they can still use Sussex ROYAL because they are no longer allowed to use “His/Her ROYAL Highness.” They are just the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. Anyone know for sure? I thought they might have shot themselves in the foot my trademarking Sussex Royal and revealing their obvious plans to cash in on it. The Queen might have taken that away by removing HRH.

    1. Bibi – didn’t many of us give up being sovereign over our own lives?

      ““Jesus Christ. I wouldn’t renounce my royal title.”

  7. “Jesus Christ. I wouldn’t renounce my royal title.”

    Buy didn’t we, Bibi? So many of us gave up being sovereign over our own life.

    We were just the last ones to know.

  8. Kip: The press does a lot of things, as we both know: The press tells the truth. The press lies. The press pushes propaganda. The press obeys orders. The press deceives willingly and deceives legally and illegally and intentionally and at some times unintentionally. The press is a vehicle for the machinations of its owners. Some times the press itself is deceived both intentionally and unintentionally. The press is at times a gift for the populace and the press is sometimes a weapon used against the populace. Sometimes the editors of the press make mistakes for various reasons and publish what they should not publish and bypass what they should publish. And they get themselves in hot water with both their superiors and their readers. It is a bit much for me to know what the press are up to. lol.

    And like any other entity, the Monarchy has its own top secret designations, and top secret instructions and hidden aspects and information, regarding many matters and even this matter, that the general populace are not privy. So there is probably a lot of method to what speed they are doing whatever is being presented to the populace and whatever is being hidden from the populace, as well. It is a puzzle and the RF has more of the pieces. Every blue moon an actual leak occurs. And we learn more. Actual leaks, and not just faux leaks for manipulative purposes. Errors do occur: The RF are NOT omnipotent, I have to remind myself at times.

    I lean on HG Tudor a lot to understand these matters, Kip. And, my intuition has served me well at times. In this case, what my intuition is telling me, is alarming. But, only time will tell. I have not read what any other site is saying on this matter. Because of my own personal state of mind and the personal challenges in my own life at this time, I can take only so much derp that is going on out there: Which is basically, none: I can not take any of the derp going on out there. I do not have the mental strength at this time. But, the matter is still discussed, a little here and there, in the local news in NYC where I live.

    I keep my bearings without becoming emotionally overwhelmed by reading HG Tudor`s brilliant analyses and by engaging with his readers on here. Plus, we do not have to fear being banned for having various and differing opinions regarding the matter, here on Narcsite. Do not try this elsewhere. Be very careful and subtle out there: Say what you have to say, as rationally as possible, and send people over here, and then bounce. Hahahaha. And of course, we are smarter, together on here, and we learn a lot from each other in this environment that HG has created on here. And, we can vent our spleen.

  9. Hi HG, Did the Queen – intentionally or not – just outmaneuvered Megan’s and called her bluff?

  10. Dear Mr Tudor,
    As an empath, I have never once shirked my responsibilities …. not even a narc had control over that !
    Luv Bubbles xx 😘

  11. I’m sure many of the royal commentators who do get asked for their opinions in the media ‘know’ what the truth is and read websites like this but they just don’t have the cahones to go for it when given a chance.

  12. But did that earlier mention include the clip that was just released? The clip with Harry speaking to the head of Disney (Bob Iger) came out many days ago now. But the one with Jon Favreau (Director of the Lion King) came out in the last half a day (unless I’m mistaken). That’s the one where Beyonce and Jay-Z are standing to the side, looking embarrassed at how Harry and Megan are acting. And both Harry and Megan are talking to Favreau, about her doing work for him. (And about either of them doing work for him, Harry says “we”). Favreau is not impressed. And Meghan ends by saying, “That’s what we came for, to make a pitch.”

  13. HG, please, please, please include analysis of the two videos at the Lion King premier where Harry steps forward like a sideshow ringmaster and tries to get two Disney power players to bow to his wife’s wishes. Harry was so socially tone deaf he didn’t seem to notice how grossly inappropriate his actions were or that everyone in a near radius was taken aback and embarrassed by his comments and requests.

    Maybe I’m wrong, but Meghan did seem to intuit that she and Harry weren’t getting the response they’d expected, hence her “joke” about them only having attended the premier in order to make a pitch. Her joke, too, went over poorly with the others in attendance. I’m not sure she realized her joke was poorly received, yet she did seem to understand that Harry’s schilling on her behalf had created awkwardness. She probably chalks that awkwardness up as Harry’s fault in how he carried it off. But it’s interesting to me that she caught a level of social cues (to some degree) whereas he did not.

  14. Dear Mr Tudor,
    What disturbs me, is the fact they became patrons of organisations businesses n charities ….to rescind on that is inexcusable, abhorrent and unethical
    Commitment is everything !
    Not impressed !

    1. Lack of emotional empathy, lack of accountability and sense of entitlement combined with control over the non-narcissist.

  15. Susan: they may have initial sales. The offers will dwindle when a) another scandal replaces it in the news; b) she runs out of dirt on the RF to spill on the talk shows; c) she doesn’t sell enough tickets, tea towels, or other tat to.justify the fact that d) she’s a pain in the porthole to work with.

  16. I’m calling it….the next major news out is that they are expecting number 2.
    I think she is already pregnant….she can’t let the interest in her die down, she is armed and loaded with her next headline.

  17. Don’t worry, they won’t stay that long. They’re heading for L.A. And Harry will probably come back to the UK within a few years.

  18. It’s sad that PH won’t be doing any more military duties. He loved the military he didn’t just put up with it. You could feel his passion for it and the other men.
    Is that an HM move to make PH miss his true allegiances?

  19. Horseyak: I pray to God that’s what happens. I can see her fucking him over until he’s suicidal. If she tries to cut him off from Archie, he’ll feel he has no reason to live. She’s done everything she can to destroy his confidence. Had you noticed at royal events, she’d give this encouraging little pat on his back, when he’d been doing this sort of thing all his life?

    Should’ve married a barmaid from Stepney. Probably make a better wife, but if she didn’t, his mates would take him down the pub and talk some sense into him.

  20. Violetta,
    Tee hee Hope you r right. But, I’m thinking about some others who made my head spin with the endorsements they managed to get. There seems to be a love for “famous for being famous” around here. Vapid and senseless, but it happens. At least it can’t have HRH slapped on it.

  21. Since the whole H&M “stepping back” bombshell was first announced, Meghan has been discussed and also vilified by many in general. This is understandable. She is seen by many as the “villain” in the piece. Even HG described her as an ‘odious individual’ and I agree with him.

    The vast majority of comments here on narcsite about Meghan are scathing and derogatory. After reading the comments (and the analysis too), and allowing it to sink in for a few days, I have considered Meghan as just another human with human faults and weaknesses and human ambitions and desires. Please don’t think I agree with her or symphathise with her or that I think she is innocent. That’s not my reasoning for writing this.

    The thing is that narcissism develops as a result of biological temperament together with childhood environmental development. Meghan is a product of her biology plus environment. Same with Harry. Same with all of us. Yet, she is on the world stage and is now in a prime position to be judged by the world. Everyone’s a judge.

    We are all susceptible to being judged though. And in the end, what is judgement anyway? It’s opinion.

    Each one of us is a human and each one of us ends up with our own personality for better or worse. Someone is born with autism, another is born with downs syndrome, another is born either with or without emotional empathy, another is born with high cognitive intelligence, another is born with social intelligence, etc etc.

    We judge all of these things as though there is some kind of ranking that makes one kind of personality good while another is bad. In the scheme of nature and natural occurrences though, they just ‘happen’ and mostly, it’s not possible to control when and if they do.

    So, why is there such a fundamental need to ‘judge’? Is it to make ourselves feel ‘normal’ and therefore ‘secure’ in a social sense, as though we ‘belong’ to the ‘normal’ group of people, so then we ourselves are ‘ok’ because we are not like the one we judge? What is ‘normal’ anyway? I think judgement generally leads to greater ignorance rather than greater understanding.

    Meanwhile… back to Meghan… she is such a bitch though! And what the hell is Harry thinking?!

    1. WiserNow
      I enjoyed your comment. Especially the way you ended it haha. True, we are all just working with what we know, until we know something else and have the ability or willingness to change it. We can all be judged as being good or bad depending on our relationship with the “judge”. They are no different. We see more in this high profile example because we have been through it, and from what we’ve learned here, but we have to remember that they don’t even see it themselves and are both doing what is instinctive to them. I see two people who separately have things to offer the world just as they are, but who should not be together because I know it is an unhealthy pairing and damage will result. Especially (and likely) to the child or children if the parental union endures and they are hostage to it.

      1. Thank you NarcAngel. I enjoyed your comment too.

        “True, we are all just working with what we know, until we know something else and have the ability or willingness to change it.”

        Yes, we are working with what we “know”. That’s interesting, because when it comes to the thoughts and motivations of someone else, we can’t actually “know” for sure. So when we don’t “know”, we are more likely to assume, or guess, or try and relate the possibilities to our own perspective.

        When there is scientific or factual ‘proof’ based on research, many equally qualitative responses, or other more definitive evidence, then we *can* “know” and further speculations or judgements are irrelevant.

        This makes me think that in the absence of ‘knowledge’ or factual evidence, we fill that gap with assumption and judgement. Whatever the case, we need to fill that ‘gap’ somehow.

        I agree with you that a pairing between a narcissist and empath is unhealthy and does cause damage to children if it endures. It is ‘unhealthy’ from our perspective regarding the emotional distress and ‘disorder’ it creates.

        It is a strong attraction though, perceived from a purely observational perspective, so according to ‘nature’ it makes some kind of sense, even though it is seen as apparently unhealthy.

        Perhaps nature has made it so that opposites attract for a reason. The offspring of these unions create more of the same, which means that narcissists and empaths are “meant” to exist. If we understood the natural phenomen better and in a more ‘knowledgable’ and factual way, perhaps there is a way that these personality types wouldn’t be viewed as aberrations but as necessary human ‘types’.

  22. Hi HG

    Have you or would you write about eve from killing eve? Why eve is so obsessed with villanelle. Is it because she is the one and she doesn’t know? Or is she empath and attracted towards her? Etc etc.

    1. I have watched about six episodes. Unfortunately I lost interest because Sanrda Oh is an awful actress.

      1. Sad. If you decide to give it second chance and write about it that be great. there are some twist in second season where Sandra is clearly obsessed with female assassins.

        1. Noted.

          Do keep in mind that you are watching a form of entertainment and therefore plot devices and storyline are the drivers, rather than accurate portrayals of human behaviour. People have become so used to television apparently showing them life, they forget that they are watching fiction.

          1. We do not even do TV and this supports not allowing it as a norm HG. I’m not saying there isn’t better programming but it’s a waste of time generally. I watched a lot of nonsense that assisted in the imprinting of what wasn’t normal as a kid. It started with Disney!

          2. Thanks HG. Unfortunately there is a load of resistance to reading (which is a better substitute for tv) except for my oldest. I hate that this is the case. I think I’m going to just become Amish and give up all the fancies.

  23. When I saw the latest news about the Palace’s announcement regarding Harry and Meghan, my first thought was, “I have to see what HG’s ongoing analysis about it is.”

    HG,
    You have embedded yourself in my mind when it comes to the royal ‘Megxit’ saga. I then came here to narcsite, and sure enough, there was a ‘part 12’ already posted. You are nimble and quick with your cyber-critique!

    Seriously though, I think the world is giving the Queen a collective high-five on the way the Palace has handled this ‘stepping back’ by Harry and Meghan. It has been handled swiftly, courteously and with very little harm caused to the monarchy or the British and Canadian populace and diplomatic relations. It was especially interesting to see that the Queen was “particularly proud of how Meghan has so quickly become one of the family”. I would seriously love to know what the queen *really* thinks of Megs.

    I think the Queen should be the one to handle Brexit, given her wise and efficient approach to Megxit.

    I like the photo used here for your article HG. Both Harry and Meghan look like they don’t quite know what hit them. Well, they wanted ‘financially independent’ and now it looks like they’re going to get it. I’m glad they’ve been given the receipt for the Frogmore cottage refurbishment too.

    Do you think that they’ll still be able to use the Sussex Royal trademark now that they will not formally represent the Queen and will no longer have their royal titles or be working members of the Royal Family?

    I think this whole Harry and Meghan roadshow is not over yet and there will be a few more instalments to come.

    In the meantime, I feel sad for Archie. He is the innocent victim who crucially needs a secure and consistent attachment right now. He will bear the brunt of his parent’s decisions and choices.

    1. WiserNow:
      “I would seriously love to know what the queen *really* thinks of Megs.”

      Did you see HM’s face when Anglican Bishop Michael Curry gave his thoroughly Baptist-style sermon at the wedding?

      The real fun is Camilla. At one event, as Megs sidles up in her obvious way to make conversation, Camilla can be heard muttering, “help…help.”

      1. Violetta,
        I didn’t actually see those incidents with the Queen face and Camilla’s reaction. I can imagine what they were really thinking though. I don’t think Meghan is making any sincere or warm friendships in the family going by some of the things she has done.

    2. WiserNow: let’s hope Archie has a good nanny, although of course Meghan would replace any nanny she thought Archie preferred to herself. Plus she’s impossible to work for anyway.

      1. Violetta,
        I hope Archie has a good nanny too. I think it’s pretty clear that Meghan does not regard Archie as her number one priority in recent months.

  24. At your service HG. The not so intelligent commoner narc known as RMM will not be able to hide. The tide will turn on her, no doubt in my mind. I have been spreading the word. It disgusts me that she is slithering around the city in which I live. Never was a royal watcher or supporter before but now, God Save the Queen, and Harry as well.

  25. Well well well, wouldn’t it be too bad if MM became incandescent? :-( From what I have read, Her Majesty has legal custody of all the Royal children. I have been wondering if Archie’s being named a private citizen and this certain degree of his parents’ abdication from having royal status, might have something to do with child custody? Also removal to Canada, where neither Harry nor Meghan have citizenship (or does Harry automatically as a royal?) Archie was born with dual citizenship US and UK. Meghan’s application to be a UK citizen is now being questioned as she may not be spending enough time there to qualify. So many questions. But, it seems likely that every step of this was thought out long ago.

  26. PrincessSE, I appreciate your insights about the need to think in the long term. I was wondering along the lines of “why was the Queen represented to want to hurry these big decisions along in 72 hours”? It’s so hard to know what might be the truth since the press suggests and extrapolates possibilities of what might be the truth. They do their best, I think, in many cases, but what we read is all we have to go on. I only had a vague idea what a narcissist is before now, having lately watched Meghan seemingly try to throw the British Monarchy on its head. (Toxic environment for which I am too pure.)

  27. A royal “clap back” LOL…Pelosi style. I laughed out loud when I heard they had to pay back the money for Frogmoor)sp. Are they going to live in Vancouver?? You Gotta be kidding. It’s just a short flight from there to Los Angeles… Oh my God I thought it was going to be in the more “British” and closer to the UK! eastern side of Canada… Holy moly.
    I would imagine that “H” when he is away from MM— realizes how much easier it is to get along with other people and life is a little more light ??… I was thinking that as they showed him in the UK doing some charity stuff meanwhile ding dong was over in Vancouver visiting women’s shelters. I know I used to feel it when I was away from my narcissist… I would be thinking how would it be if she was here and thinking oh it probably wouldn’t be very good. People wouldn’t like her. I would feel constantly worried about how she is feeling and is she happy is she bored… Anyway cannot wait till the next installment w00t woot.

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  29. NutMeg is a full blown psychopath. She has never won this BIG before. She is going to feed on Harry for as long as she can. …she’s not done yet that’s what really disturbs me. Poor Harry and LITTLE Archie. I hope someone stops Rachel. HG get people to post links to here on Daily Mail UK articles with most comments to educate the masses about and what Rachel really is. People from UK…US…Canada around the world hate her. You had her pegged from the beginning HG. I smell a streak of EMPATH in you HG.

    Meghan’s back home having gained worldwide fame and a fortune. Harry’s lost his title, his friends, his country and his family.

    1. Hello T&S, she is not a psychopath. There is no empath in me, what you may have confused is my understanding of empaths and their behaviour which manifests as cognitive empathy.

    2. Tea and Sympathy: a number of us have been directing readers on many sites (including DM) to HG’s work. We can’t post links on some of them, but I’ve been mentioning specific articles (“A Very Royal Narcissist” series and “Dropping the Narc Bomb,” since she always pulls this stuff on Christmas or somebody’s birthday).

      I’ve noticed comments from other Tudorites recommending articles on the Golden Period or Devaluation, which should give readers a better idea of how MM’s routine has progressed so far and what will happen next.

  30. Susan: it will be like sugar-coating a pile of horse-puckey. You can’t market this null set. Remember the Vogue issue? She’s this year’s Peaches Browning/Rita Jenrette/Darva Conger.

  31. PSE:

    “I do not underestimate this monarchy.”

    No one should. HM said she was “particularly proud of how Meghan has so quickly become one of the family.”

    Ooh, that Liz can lay it on with a straight face! She’s had the practice. She knows exactly what NOT to say to give the MegBots any ammunition. Meg’s a rank amateur by comparison. She may not realize she’s been outflanked by HM for years.

    1. Violetta: Even though I do not underestimate that Monarchy, because this entire situation is infested with Narcissists, from that family itself, from leaders of other Countries, and even from powers in the media, that are supposedly running stories and interviews about this couple, it is said, without even vetting the stories first with the RF, something is frightening about it all, I find. So Magical Thinking, and Blind Spots, and Narc Bombs, and Control Battles, Selfishness, Grandstanding, etc. are clearly in the midst of all this, and coming from many different directions. And general errors that any one of these characters involved, can make singularly or in unison, at any given time, along with some possible unknown unknowns, all can combine. Yikes! I find something quite eerie and strange, about it all. Like something bad is lurking somewhere, and may come out and surprise me when I least expect it. And even may impact society more even over here in the U.S., where I live, and thereby impact my life. What could that surprise be? I do not know at all. Perhaps I am feeling overly uneasy and I am feeling unnecessary alarm. I just do not know, Violetta.

    2. Bingo – so well stated.

      “Ooh, that Liz can lay it on with a straight face! She’s had the practice. She knows exactly what NOT to say to give the MegBots any ammunition. Meg’s a rank amateur by comparison. She may not realize she’s been outflanked by HM for years.”

      More will be revealed of course. In the meantime, anyone else have their ptsd and obsessively focusing on the narcissist triggered by this debacle and blatant case of narcissistic abuse? The only saving grace is I’m not obsessing about the numerous narcs that almost killed me. But frankly, I’m saddened and alarmed that my power is being sucked out of me by my outrage and morbid fascination of the evil dumpster fire that is RMM.

    3. Violetta – I noted and admired that phrase from HM too. She knows the family has been described as toxic by mm and who hasn’t spoke to Kate for 6 months and who clearly hasn’t settled in at all deliberately and yet HM said how well she’s settled in. Clever HM.

      1. PSE, Susan, Em: Meg’s behavior around the little cousins is another oddity. She wants to be Diana, but if Diana had been at a polo match with a new baby, she would have been getting Charlotte to hold the bottle, teaching George how to burp a baby, letting Louis give the baby a finger to clutch. If the baby was asleep, she’d have held a finger to her lips, and let them peek if they promised to be quiet. It wouldn’t matter if she got on with their parents or not: at one dinner party, Diana was so bored by the adult conversation that she sneaked upstairs to play with the kids!

        Like most American girls, Meg did some babysitting when she was growing up, so her inability to relate to.children, even look natural holding Archie, is jarring. I know Harry isn’t the most observant of men, but you’d think the contrast between his mother and Meghan would have struck him by now.

  32. Alexis: he couldn’t say if he had: confidentiality.

    But this is as good an example as any that there are empath men out there. Some of them will be recovering from Narcissistic ensnarement, just as we are working to do–and as Harry may soon have to do.

    And he’s a good example of how empaths don’t have to be boring “nice” guys. He wasn’t a wimpy woke wuss before Meghan worked him over. Just hope the Cheeky Chappie is still in there somewhere.

  33. Jesus Christ. I wouldn’t renounce my royal title. But that’s just me.

    HG, you were in my dream last night. I dreamed that the Mid Ranger showed up at my place of work and wanted to reconcile. So I thought I needed to let HG know, so I emailed you, wherein you responded with a slew of emojis, one which included the upside down smiley face. In my dream I thought, ‘Someone hijacked HG’s account b/c he would never send this shit.’ Then I woke.

    1. WokeAF: She will not last long without her red carpets and pap walks Remember how much she LURVED camping in Botswana–before they married?

      The last thing she wants is “peaceful.”

  34. Kip: Titles are decided by the title giver, in this case the Queen, including titles that pertain to Henry/Harry/H. and her entire family. They are given and taken away and restored or cancelled, rinse and repeat. at her pleasure. In short, she giveth and she taketh away, and she reverses, and she changes, at her pleasure and as she deems wise, and she can keep and she has kept names and surnames and titles in her household hidden from the general populace and public records, until a later date: Wisdom.

    So, I am staying tuned and I an not rushing to say whom will be called what, and especially I will not guess a timeframe, that such names and titles will be removed, and changed, or, if and when they will be restored in the future, in such matters. I will not pretend to know what is recorded by the Queen in the private records, regarding this matter, that may be hidden from the general populace.

    Some entities plan decades ahead, and a few generations ahead, and some plan centuries ahead and some plan millenniums ahead, regarding some matters.. I have heard it said many many times that the average person plans for 5 years ahead at the very most. lol. These monarchies often plan their chess moves many many many moves ahead of the general populace`s attention span.

    I do not underestimate this monarchy. And, sometimes, they stoop in the present, to Win in the long term.

    1. This is just Meghan trying to save face before the slimming down of the monarchy that Prince Charles was planing. Since she is out she is trying to put them down.

  35. Wish the duke and duchess titles had been removed, too! Not being mean but now they will never go back and we are stuck here on the opposite side of the pond with their influence. Everything from sippey cups to yoga tights to restaurants to raincoats will showcase their tastes. We have so much celerity influence here it’s nauseating. They will push it to another level so they can maintain their lifestyle while they punish the environment in secret.

    1. Or you could not buy the tat and start spreading the information contained in my articles far and wide so more and more people understand.

  36. Apparently the dynamic duo are not completely off the hook yet…one article said Meghan will be expected to return to the UK for several months while the two of them complete some assortment of royal duties. Now that it is reported she described the royal environment as “toxic” and claimed she wanted to get Archie out of the toxic environment, if those reported sentiments are true, how can she face the Queen and other royals after the insults? I get the impression from the majority of comments that the British public have her number; who will still show up to her events? Many sound very bitter. Also, why are Harry and Meghan not now Mr. and Mrs. Harry and Meghan Mountbatten-Windsor instead of remaining the Duke and Duchess of Sussex which titles will still enable them to use the brand Sussex Royal? Is this because Harry was born a Prince and will always be a Prince, which is a royal position? Duke and Duchess are not technically royal titles, are they? So they are not going to be technically private citizens like they made Archie? I keep thinking it would be more ethical if they really want to be independent is to relinquish the Duke and Duchess titles and be private citizens. Or is allowing them to keep their titles the thing that would allow Queen Elizabeth to check them if their commercial ventures turn out to be in conflict with the Monarchy? It still seems rather muddy…

    1. KM…I’m curious about the Sussex titles too. I can see arguments for both retaining and stripping from Queen’s POV.
      MM would be incandescent if they were taken away and I would imagine the Queen would like to see her grandson again. Unfortunately, Harry has served his purpose and propelled her onto the world stage – so, the question is, does she think they are stronger together (aka the Beckhams) as the Sussexes, or is she big enough to go it alone now?

        1. WAF – I’ve no idea. I would have thought she was too, but I don’t know what schools.
          VB could have left him over the scandal with Rebecca Loos, but she didn’t, and I always put it down to the fact she realised they could make more money together than separately. It was a business decision.

    2. “if those reported sentiments are true, how can she face the Queen and other royals after the insults?”

      Easily. She has no shame.

      “I get the impression from the majority of comments that the British public have her number; who will still show up to her events?”

      People who want to boo. Hope they also sing the Monkees’ “Steppin’ Stone”– amazingly prescient.

    3. When Edward VIII abdicated to marry Wallis Simpson, he kept his title and she got one too. This was mostly so the Royal family still had some dibs on them. Without the titles and links to the family otherwise, they probably couldn’t have stationed him in the Bahamas to prevent him further exploring his fondness for Nazi Germany during WW II. Would of looked rather bad for the brand if he was running about supporting the “other side” – not to mention the true horrors that were not unveiled till later.

      So yes I imagine it’s Lizzy saying “use these titles at your disgression, but if I don’t like what your doing, I’ll make sure you know about it.”

      Apparently she’s not exactly putting her best efforts in over in canada to boot https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7898081/Meghan-Markle-never-actually-stepped-foot-Canada-womens-center.html

      1. SpaceKitty: He did not abdicate to marry her. She was a convenient excuse for him to APPEAR to step down on his own accord, to not alarm the populace over much, because he happened to end up on the wrong side of the war in a major way, at that time, and he was forced to step down or face more severe repercussions. He had to go.

        That is a fairy tale of the grotesque: that he decided to step down to marry the unsuitable woman. She is the scapegoat, to hide that his treasonous and alarming intrigues, according to the govt., were the reason he was forced to step down, according to how that govt. worked at that time. Many women love that fairy tale and continue to bring it up.

        I rarely hear a man bring up that gross fairy tale and lie. Men largely know better. If I hear that grotesque fairy tale one more time, I shall scream. arggggghhhhh…..I just got the scream out of the way. I am sure I will hear that fairy tale of the grotesque plenty now, because of the Duchess of Sussex and Henry/Harry/H. The power of a lie is often almost incredible. Unbelievable.

  37. What a tease.
    Must be a hit back from the RF. MM would have wanted that title like crazy I think.
    Now she will whine.
    Can’t wait to read the HG analysis.

  38. What a fool Harry is being, but I’m glad this has happened they can’t have their cake and eat it.
    MM thinks there’s plenty of fame and money for them without the restrictions of the monarchy. Ironic that I do believe one of the reasons he married her was thinking she could cope with the spotlight .
    Can’t he see that she can cope with the spotlight , loves and chases the spotlight continuously , it just must be on her terms and the type of spotlight that she wants and thinks she can control better. Is Harry really so dumb that he thinks they will have less press intrusion now !!!!
    It did not go well for Diana after her title was taken, it all went down hill and became a shambles ending in tradegy. Let’s hope she dumps Harry very soon for his sake.

    1. It never seems like it at the time it happens, but disengagement amounts to a head start on achieving freedom.

    2. Lisa: My vocal coach pointed out that Meghan is an expert at finding the camera, but she doesn’t seem to know what to do with it once she’s found it.

      That will come back to bite her, even if her unethical behavior doesn’t.

  39. Wow im surprised they will pay back prince charles for refurbishing frogmore maybe to make him feel guilty for expressing her disappointment over it and say no its ok.

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