Kicking The Hornet´s Nest

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Does the narcissist keep coming after you?

Are you being repeatedly hoovered?

Want to know what to avoid doing to provoke the narcissist?

Need to understand why the narcissist will not leave you alone?

You need to grasp the concept of “Kicking The Hornet´s Nest”

Through this Logic Bulletin you will gain more insight and understanding into why the narcissist behaves as he or she does, through a plethora of examples so you can ensure that you never got stung again.

Just US $ 15 obtain this clear and effective Logic Bulletin which is provided by an email audio file.

Hornet´s Nest


53 thoughts on “Kicking The Hornet´s Nest

  1. WhoCares says:

    If one truly wants to encourage the narcissist to ‘go away’ this information elucidates where we are actually discouraging the process. Well worth a listen!

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Absolutely WC, thank you.

  2. lisk says:

    Took advantage of the deus28 discount and purchased this, too, today.

    Really enjoyed listening to it just now. I appreciate your sternness in this one, HG: “No excuses!”

    1. HG Tudor says:

      You are welcome.

  3. Notme! says:

    You can be invisible to them electronically, ignore all their attempts and the relentless bastards can still keep trying. You can’t control them or avoid them if they feel minded to pursue you. I’m not ready to change my job, leisure activities and my name, go off grid and whittle spoons in the woods somewhere in the Outer Hebrides so I’ll content myself to continue to ignore the nonsense. An in person hoover might entice me to kick the hornet’s nest however.

    1. Hope7 says:

      LOL. “Whittle spoons”. I see you’ve thought this through.

      1. Notme! says:

        Haha, I have considered all the options Hope, but hopefully for everyone there comes a point when you say ‘enough now’. He and I don’t even live in the same country, whatever rubbish goes on in his head in my absence is his own personal problem. He can still send things if you chooses and send me messages through other people, if it fills his time then maybe he has less time to irritate other people. Onwards and upwards!

  4. MB says:

    This is an excellent logic blast. We have way more control over what the narcissist does than we at first think. Their actions are mostly reactive and instinctive based on what WE choose to do.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Glad you think so MB.

  5. zwartbolleke says:

    Do people actually do this??

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Repeatedly and often.

      1. zwartbolleke says:

        “Repeatedly and often.”

        Repeatedly and often????
        What in the world happened to self esteem?
        Never in my life did I think of any of these, I was more perplexed by the revelation of the methods than the knowlegde of not doing so…
        You learn every day here 🙂

        1. HG Tudor says:

          That is what this place is for.

        2. Lorelei says:

          Thank you for asking. I’m as ok as can be. Had to throw away flowers today from my mother’s service and became upset. Didn’t expect that. The cats are hiding. One under a bed and one in my crawl space. They can’t hide forever! They apparently eat and I scoop litter daily so I think they come out at night.

          1. Kristin says:

            I did not realize that your mother had passed, I am so very sorry. ❤️

          2. Lorelei says:

            Thanks Kristin, I’m really struggling today. Can’t focus. I am glad to have another week off work and I did buy tickets for Falsettos to see tomorrow night. Having coffee with a friend in the morning too. I’m trying.

          3. Kristin says:

            My thoughts and prayers are with you, I cannot imagine what you are going through. Keep taking care of yourself as best you can and enjoy time with your friend the Falsettos tomorrow. xx

          4. Lorelei says:

            Thanks Kristin—I’m waiting on my coffee friend. She’s a counselor who likes to do that EMDR stuff on people! She also thinks HG is a psychopath so won’t read his books but I forgive her. I feel better, rested today.

          5. NarcAngel says:

            He is a narcissist psychopath. All the more reason to read his books. How can she hope to be effective when she does not have all of the facts, and direct from the source at that?

          6. HG Tudor says:


          7. Lorelei says:

            Exactly. Exactly. Now don’t get me wrong—I’ve been her colleague. She does some nice clinical work at times—but how augmented it would be if she didn’t demarcate his work as nonsense based on having a diagnosis. We had a nice discussion and I’m leaning heavily to doing what seemed a much more remote endeavor as recently as a few weeks ago. I think I will piggy-back my current pursuit with psychiatric provider capacity. My landscape of possibilities is enhanced by doing so. We discussed this as well.

          8. NarcAngel says:

            But never mind all that today. Just have a nice visit and coffee with your friend and unwind. That other is for another day.

          9. Kristin says:

            Take her up on anything she can do to help you!! Yes, HG is a psychopath but he is a gift. No regrets here and I know you feel the same.

            Do whatever you need to in order to take care of yourself. Blessings to you my dear.

          10. FoolMe1Time says:

            I’m sorry Lorelei that today is a tough one for you. Remember sweetie it’s ok to mourn. Please be good to yourself.

          11. zwartbolleke says:

            Oh Lorelei I’m so sorry, I had no idea your mother passed away.
            Forgive me for talking about the cats when your heart is in such pain at this moment.

            Mourning is love that has become homeless.

            It’s hard, I hope you can smile for all the good memories, I send you love

          12. Lorelei says:

            Thank you. Her passing occurred after I brought the cats here so the timing was good to have already managed this part of the process. Any tips on how to get them out of hiding I’ll take. The black one is in the crawl space scared. The other is under a bed.

          13. Kristin says:

            We have 3 cats so I get it. Do they have treats that would entice them? Ours come out of hiding when we shake the container or maybe wet cat food? I know it’s a pain but they will come out eventually. Hope thing improve soon.

          14. Lorelei says:

            Cats are everywhere!

          15. Kristin says:

            I am sorry, last night is the last thing you needed and I hope you’re ok. Taking care of you is what is most important and that means doing whatever the hell you need to right now. 😘

          16. Lorelei says:

            Last night was interesting. The house I went to for help was equipped by a man in a towel, but once he got dressed he revealed he was a mechanic for Lexus. He changed my tire in 15 minutes and I fell in love with his 150 lb dog. The dog knows how to open the door to go potty—very sweet animal. His wife came home—she was lovely as well and they have messaged me today. The dog was a Presa Canario and I have a thing for beastly animals (which is why I’m attracted to narcissists). I could have taken the beast home.

          17. zwartbolleke says:

            Mr Tudor
            If you would be so kind to allow this crazy cat lady give a little advice to the foster mom of some cats in needs, thank you so very much… (I will limit it and keep it short)

            Lorelei, bring scentsoakers in your house. What is this? Clothes from your mother, pillows, blankets, everything that can hold a smell from your mother and to which they are used to and place it everywhere in as many rooms as possible. (This is temporarily until their stress is eased)
            Also their former cat beds if not already, blankets as much as possible.
            If possible, try to block the entrance to the crawl space and the space under the bed, under the seat, so they are forced to become more secure (obvious after there are scents in the house that they are used to).
            Playtime is very important. Get a handsfree toy, so a feather toy on a stick (so they don’t get afraid of your hand, cannot bite, and don’t learn the wrong association). Play every day for at least 15 minutes with each cat. Cats are hunters, they are designed to hunt, not to hide under a bed, the motto is: hunt, catch, kill, eat! So after playtime (=hunt, catch, kill), you give them their food (=eat). This is a routine and it eases the stress.
            Last thing, to ease the stress, cats just loooooove those cardbord structures, which in Europe I buy here: , but I’m sure something like this exists in your country also.
            Also, 2 cats, this means 3 litterboxes, to avoid getting shielding of property and peeing outside the litterbox, which you don’t want!

            This should do the trick…

            I wish I could help you better. Keep me posted!

            Thank you Mr Tudor

          18. HG Tudor says:

            Just this once.

          19. Lorelei says:

            Thank you—It’s going to take time.. I have not had much luck with anything lately. First car accident in years last night. Many years. Ice ice ice and slid right into a boulder I swear. I’m not doing a f%^*ing thing today. New car too! I then knocked on some guys door wearing a bath towel. My life is a calamity of mishaps and I’m burying my head in the sand.

          20. zwartbolleke says:

            Oh Lorelei, that’s everything together ☹️…
            Sometimes life’s a bitch.
            Always get back up. Nothing and nobody will hold you back, never lose your spirit 💛

          21. Violetta says:

            Lorelei: if running the can opener doesn’t do it, you’ll just have to wait until they feel like coming out.

            Sorry to hear about the car accident. Curl up on the couch and spoil yourself. It’s actually possible that the cats will come out to comfort you; I’ve known that to happen. My friend’s cat regularly hid behind the refrigerator when he was sulking; usually, he’d come out when he got sufficiently hungry, but on one occasion he came out early because her boyfriend had dumped her and she was crying hysterically.

  6. MB says:

    I’ve enjoyed the picture accompanying this post. It’s a good one!

    1. HG Tudor says:

      I agree. Make sure you utilise this, very clear examples of mistakes which are made time and time again by people and then they wonder why they land up in difficulty.

      1. MB says:

        I don’t *think* I’ve kicked any nests recently, but I definitely don’t want to get stung! Is this logic bulletin the equivalent of an epi pen?

        1. HG Tudor says:

          Hell yeah!

        2. WhoCares says:

          MB – “epi pen”…haha..

        3. zwartbolleke says:

          What is epi pen?

          1. Lorelei says:

            Medication used to treat a life threatening allergic response—people with a severe allergy to bee stings often carry it.

          2. Violetta says:

            Injects antihistamines and epinephrine. If people are severely allergic, they don’t have time to wait for Benadryl to kick in (although the syrup is faster then the capsules).

            Hikers with allergies to bee-stings are advised to take EpiPens with them on trail, so they don’t go into anaphylactic shock and die before emergency personnel can get to them.

          3. zwartbolleke says:

            Thank you Lorelei

            How are you?

            Are you able to handle the problem with the cats? I could not remember the threat so I was looking to find you, took me some time 🙂

            If you want (I do not want to push myself) I can give some do and don’ts, I’m the crazy cat lady after all!
            Just one thing, a cat who bites, is always telling you something. A cat will never ever bite for no reason. He/she is in pain, stress, panic, anxiety, ptsd, afraid, environmental insecure, …

            Let me know anytime!

          4. zwartbolleke says:

            I think I forgot to thank you Lorelei 🙂
            Thanx for the explanation

          5. zwartbolleke says:

            Thank you Violetta!!

        4. njfilly says:

          I need an HG injection.

          1. HG Tudor says:

            One will appear right about…

          2. njfilly says:

            The system would not accept my gift card.

          3. Hope7 says:

            Gross! LOL

  7. Claire says:

    This Logic Bulletin is another brilliance of HG and absolutely must have material for any new escapee who wants to retain their NC regime intact.
    After listening to it, I immediately spotted the mistake that I made recently in keeping my NC. The consequences of that mistake are still manageable because my stubbornness is legendary.
    On the other hand, fellow readers, do not take any risks. What we think is right to do can be used against you in a spilt of a second. Do not be misled my your ET🙂.
    Instead, get more weaponised with this marvellous LB.👍🏻

    1. HG Tudor says:

      HG approves. Thank you Claire.

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