Raising the Hoover Bar



The hoover. It is one of the most discussed periods of the narcissistic entanglement. I am referring to it in the traditional sense, namely the three post-discard/escape hoovers, although as you will be aware from my works, there are other hoovers throughout the interaction between us and you.

There are most likely two reasons for the post discard/escape hoover being a prime topic of discussion. First, by the time you have worked out what you are dealing with you will have already experienced the seduction, devaluation and discard/escape. The post discard/escape hoover is what is occupying you now because it may have happened recently, is ongoing, or you anticipate it happening. The second reason is that the possibility of ongoing interaction with us continues to fascinate you and thus the post discard/escape hoover becomes the focus of much of your attention.

I have explained previously that if the Initial Grand Hoover has taken place and failed (this hoover being caused by your escape) then you will face follow-up hoovers thereafter, of a benign and/or malign nature. Their catalyst is whether you enter our spheres of influence through something you have done (spheres one to five) or the fact you have just entered out mind for some reason (sphere six). If you have entered a sphere of influence, we always consider (though dependent on the nature of your type of narcissist the degree of consideration varies considerably) whether a hoover could be effected. There are certain hurdles which will either prevent that hoover from taking place or reduce the likelihood of it taking place. These hurdles may well raise the bar so it is less likely that the Hoover Execution Criteria are met, meaning it is less likely you will suffer a hurdle. Knowing what these factors are and how we regard them is crucial in formulating your defences to maintain No Contact.  What, then,  are those hurdles?

  1. Your Whereabouts

If we do not know where to find you so that we can appear face to face and look to garner some excellent Proximate Fuel by turning up at your home, your work or somewhere else you frequent this naturally poses a considerable problem to us. A Greater Narcissist will apply some effort to ascertaining your whereabouts, a Lesser is unlikely to do much at all. Accordingly, as part of building your defences the necessity of changing where you can be physically found not only pays dividends in commencing No Contact but affecting the likelihood of a later hoover.

  1. Your Accessibility

In a similar vein we need to be able to contact you. If we do not have a physical place to either attend, drive past, leave or note or send a gift, then we will look to access you through electronic means. If we know your telephone number, we are far more likely to hoover or if we have a means of contacting you through an app or on social media. If you have effected a media blackout and managed to sustain it, the prospects of a hoover happening are vastly reduced.

  1. Gullibility of Friends and Family

We may have a lieutenant in your ranks already. If so, the prospects of being hoovered are increased as we will have them lined-up to leak to us where we can find you and how we can contact you. Even if there is no lieutenant, if there is the prospect for a hoover we (or one of our lieutenants) will approach people in your camp to gather this information. It is often done under a separate auspice – there may be an emergency, some post has arrived we need to pass on, there is something confidential to relay to you – and if your family and friends are trusted with contact information their susceptibility to releasing this information is important. Bear in mind several months may have passed and if a lieutenant approaches your parents or a friend, they may not be alert to the danger. If those who might have your contact information remain impregnable then the hoover prospects are diminished.

  1. Happy and Contented

If you are demonstrating (to the outside world at least) that you are happy and contented, then this will affect the hoover prospects. Generally speaking we expect you to still be pining for us and miserable. This is regarded as a condition which is fertile ground for a successful hoover. If we are aware that you are moving forward, you rarely mention us, you appear generally happy and content then the Lesser and Mid-Range of our kind will be less likely to attempt a hoover. This is because they may be easily rebuffed and even though you may do so in a pleasant way, the fuel gained will be minimal. You should be aware however that a Greater will regard you as a prospect to break and therefore will not be dissuaded by seeing you happy and content alone.

  1. A New Interest

If you happen to have moved on to somebody new, which of course is dependent on the passage of time and other factors, then again a Lesser or a Mid-Range is less likely to hoover. The prospect of being rebuffed and thus wounded through criticism will prove too great a risk to them. They will feel criticised already by knowing you are with someone new when you should be holding a torch and pining for them and they are likely to regard the hoover as too risky, with the prospect for no fuel and further wounding. This will not apply to the Greater Narcissist. We are more likely to apply a malign follow-up hoover and lash out at you and your new partner to get a double fuel strike.

  1. Your Fuel Potential

You will have been an excellent source of fuel at some point, that is why you were chosen and ensnared, but that changed. The reason hoover fuel is so potent is that you will have recovered to some extent from what has happened to you, you will want to see us or be relieved that we have come back for you (not always but often) and most of all the fact that we have abused you and yet we can still entice you either to start the Formal Relationship again or even to provide fuel shows how powerful we are and thus adds to the potency of the fuel. If you are a super empath or a co-dependent you will be a prime prospect for hoovering. However, if we regard you as still badly crippled by what we did to you so that you have been in effect numbed so that your emotional output is muted or deadened, this will affect whether a hoover will take place. In such circumstances a proxy hoover may take place so a lieutenant can scope you out. Or you may (if circumstances allow) receive a paving the way message which is not a hoover in itself but rather a way of seeing how the land lies to then decide whether a hoover attempt should be made.

  1. Your Knowledge

If we are aware that you know what we are or have information which could be damaging to us in the form of amounting to a serious criticism this will lessen the likelihood of a hoover. Whilst a Lesser has no awareness of what he or she is, if you do know and you keep making mention of it and adapting your behaviour accordingly, he or she will at least sense there is little fuel to be gained and/or the risk of criticism. Similarly, a Mid-Range will realise that there is something “off” with the situation and think very carefully before being exposed to less fuel and/or criticism. The Greater is not concerned by your knowledge of what he is. He will deny it and look to manipulate the situation to his advantage to draw further fuel, but he will be concerned by anything that could cause criticism.

  1. The Façade

This carefully constructed and maintained device which we use to repeated effect against you is important. Not only do we use it against you but it will be used against other victims and those who help create the façade provide us with fuel. We do not want this to be damaged or fractured in anyway. If we ascertain that there is a risk of this happening if we hoover you (for instance you have damning evidence of our behaviour which could be circulated if we engage with you) then we will not want the façade damaged by such exposure and accordingly the prospect of a hoover happening will be diminished.

  1. Energy levels

If you enter our sphere of influence when energy levels are lower as a consequence of lower fuel provision, then the hoover may be regarded as not worth the effort. If, however there is easy accessibility and the prospective fuel gain is considered to be significant then even low energy levels would not be a dissuading factor but if there are other factors as above in place which would prove difficult then when we have low energy levels this makes us less inclined to want to perform the hoover. This situation may arise where we are still embedding a new primary source after your escape or we may not have one yet and we are reliant on fuel from primary sources. If the hoover is perceived as having hurdles and energy levels are low, even though you may have entered a sphere of influence, we may look elsewhere for fuel and not engage in a hoover.

  1. The Type of Narcissist


The particular type we are has a bearing also. The Lesser will be looking for easy gains, low-hanging fruit and immediate results. The immediacy is important. Lacking the calculation of the Mid-Range and Greater, he will be inclined to hoover if you are in near reach even if there are other hoovers because he is unable to control his thirst for hoover fuel. He will however risk being rebuffed and this will in turn ignite his fury causing him to lash out at you with potential repercussions. If the Lesser does not see an immediate opportunity he will move on. He is akin to an opportunist burglar. The Mid-Range will put a little more effort and planning in but will be cautious in his approach, mindful of the potential repercussions and therefore a few hurdles will put him off. He may apply a little effort to consideration but it does not take too much to cause him to move on. The Greater will need considerable hurdles to prevent a hoover happening when a sphere of influence has been penetrated. If he knows there is very potent hoover fuel he will apply considerable effort, like a well-planned heist, to get those jewels.

These factors need to be taken in consideration with one another to determine the likelihood or not of a hoover happening once the sphere of influence has been penetrated.

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23 thoughts on “Raising the Hoover Bar

  1. Violetta says:

    DM headline:

    “Managing director, 50, harassed 45-year-old teacher he met on Plenty of Fish with gifts, messages and a new vacuum cleaner in bid to win her back after they split”

    It’s finally happened. Someone tried to effect a Hoover with…a Hoover.

    Unless it was a Dyson. Or a Shark.

  2. alexissmith2016 says:

    I have just been ‘removed’ from a WA group. The person who controlled the group a mid range type B conspiracy theorist (hurry and write this HG, I’m keen to buy) removed me. I knew him from several years ago and he always used to hit on me (unsuccessfully) along with every other living breathing female. He was the lead of a group of people (not a cult or anything) with a shared interest. I was heavily involved to begin with and would then dip in and out on and off over a few years. He would always hit on me each time I returned with the odd positive hoover inbetween. Our last engagement he was wounded by me, very slightly but along the lines of no I’m still not interested as politely as possible.

    the WA group was set up during a period of my inactivity and when I dipped back in again another group member added me. today I get removed from the group by the ‘leader’ for no reason other than I have not engaged in any messages for over a year or so because I’m not really interested. The group has about 40 members.

    I presume this is a malign hoover on his part because he must have been lacking control somewhere in his life and needed to feel in control over anyone he can. I would be pretty insignificant given my next to no level of involvement for a very long period of time.

    Pre knowledge I would have been upset by this, wondering why and what I’d done, although my N trait of pride would probably have prevented me from acting on it.

    Today it simply brought a smile to my face as I fully understand the dynamics of what was going on.

    Thank you HG for making other people so explainable and my life so simple.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      You are welcome, AS 2016.

  3. Eternity says:


  4. Eternity says:

    My apologies entirely HG, I misinterpreted it and read it wrong . Sorry it must be the wine then.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Not a problem, Eternity.

  5. Eternity says:

    HG, when the N tells you if you wanna leave then go what are you waiting for. Do they really mean it?

    1. HG Tudor says:

      In that instant yes, but of course it comes with The Narcissist´s Conditional Asterisk.

      1. Eternity says:

        Thank you HG, I may want to go a revisit that article

  6. Yvelyn says:

    HG. Why have you gone silent on youtube. Your voice is so singularly exciting it is a shame just reading this shit. Likewise your books, no voice attached. How annoying.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      If you have found that I am on silent on Youtube you may wish to syringe your ears.

      1. Eternity says:

        Ha ha HG , that is a good one big time! Love it !!!!

    2. Eternity says:

      Yvelyn, HG’s articles are not shit. I suggest you back on YouTube and listen to HG’s voice again from the beginning to remind you of that . He has plenty of articles with his delicious voice.

      1. HG Tudor says:

        I don’t think Yvelyn is suggesting my articles are shit, she is referring to the situation of dealing with a narcissist as shit. She also meant to ask why have I not posted any new videos and the answer to that is that I have been addressing other matters and that a new channel will come in the course of this year. You are correct Eternity, there are many, many videos still there with my delicious voice, so that I have not gone silent.

        1. Eternity says:

          That’s good HG we wouldnt want you giving us the good old silent treatment now would we?

          1. Violetta says:

            I’ve barely made a dent in the ones already up, and there are certain ones I listen to repeatedly because they apply only too well.

            But yeah, there can never be too much of the Tudor baritone.

        2. Yvelyn says:

          I meant *new* material.

          I have been listening to things that appear years old or at least nine months old at my last checking and that’s not satisfactory for me. Therefore I am complaining and taking my issue to management. 😂🤣

          When I said this shit, I am not disparaging the content. I want it to be very clear that every time I see a new article it irritates me because I want to hear you reading it to me. So every new article makes me frustrated and aware that I am not getting what I want, and I think to myself “what is this shit” as in the experience itself.


          It is obnoxious I cannot buy the books on audible and shiver in what appears to be a mixture of terror and attraction, which is not something I can honestly say I have ever felt. I enjoy it. Naturally, I want more of what I enjoy. 🤷🏻‍♀️

          Then again, I could certainly see the fun in recording nothing and torturing people like me. That is also amusing. The frustration I feel amuses me. The whole experience is singular, odd.

          Why in the hell would I want to listen to something 9 months old? I want to hear what’s happening in that throat NOW. Every little pause, crack, nuance, breath, inflection.

          Everyone has an interest, I suppose this is mine.

          I read things all the time. I love the written word. It is the voice that interests me, not laziness on my part.

          1. HG Tudor says:

            Thank you for clarifying.

            Your complaint is noted and has been placed in file B1N.

            I understood you were not disparaging eh material, I stated as such in an earlier comment to Eternity.

            You can obtain Narc Tales Volume 1 in The Knowledge Vault for audio ecstasy. You can also obtain a wide range of spoken Logic Bulletins and Assistance Packages also in the Knowledge Vault, give yourself some eargasms and even better, it is ALL currently half price. My generosity overflows. More books will be narrated and added, they will also be uploaded to Audible.

          2. Yvelyn says:

            I know you understood. I clarified my point for the benefit of others in the comments who were offended, as if anything I could peck out feverishly on my phone could disturb you for a second 😂. Thank you very much for pointing me in the right direction. Beautiful dragon.

          3. HG Tudor says:

            Thank you for that clarification.

          4. Violetta says:


            And you thought my mouth needed soaping.

          5. HG Tudor says:

            Ha ha.

          6. Violetta says:

            Effective use of the l3t3, btw.

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