Shell Shocked Silence
I was in a consultation with Dr E. We had been discussing the various methods by which I obtained fuel and the conversation had largely been given over to the question of the methods of obtaining negative fuel from those that I had ensnared.
“Tell me,” continued Dr E, ” about one of your favoured states to place a victim in.”
“Tough call that Dr E, I have several.”
“Select one then and tell me about it.”
“Why?”
“I am interested to ascertain what one the states is and in particular what you get from that.”
“Haven’t you been listening? I told you that it is the fuel that I obtain from their emotional reactions, especially the negative ones. That is what I get from these situations.”
“I recognise that but I have seen, through our consultations, that everything you do serves a multiplicity of purposes. Everything of course leads to the harvesting of your fuel but I have seen you gain other things beside your fuel.”
“Such as?”
“I have made notes but I do not want to prime you, I want you to describe the situation and then explain to me what you get from it,” pressed Dr E. I sat and regarded him for a moment. I tried to ascertain if he was getting something else from asking me about this. You see, I have worked out that Dr E is a rascal for projecting. He cannot help himself. He will suggest a methodology applicable to me when in fact what he is talking about is a methodology he wishes to apply. In this instance he was trying to get me to talk about the multiple benefits of a given scenario whereas what I knew was that he was getting more from this discussion than just receiving an answer to that question. I know your game Dr E. You think you are smarter than me but you are not. Still, I decided to indulge him. There was no need to let him know that I was on to his method.
“Okay. One of the situations that I like to create is one of a shell shocked silence.” Dr E began to write. I waited for his reaction before proceeding.
“I see. Please explain more to me.”
“Well, we have discussed at length the various manipulative methods that I apply to get fuel which bring about control and the diminution in my target’s capability to resist me. I lower their critical thinking, maximise their isolation and increase their reliance on me. The sustained and repeated application of these techniques often leads down the road to my target being left in a state of shell shock.”
I waited as Dr E continued to make his notes. He scratched his nose and then spoke.
“Do you do anything in particular that brings about this shell shocked state?” he asked.
“It is the culmination of a variety of manipulative techniques but there needs to be a final flourish, something that will tip this person over the edge into their numbed silence.”
“Such as?” he queried.
“Well, I find that a sudden escalation of a certain act or behaviour tends to tip the balance. It might be the violent destruction of something that they love right in front of them that causes them to stand shaking unable to speak. On another occasion I may reveal that I have been engaged in an affair with someone they trusted and felt close to, say a best friend or a family member. I do recall that once I was having sex with Alex and part way through I told her ‘By God Joanne you are so much better at this than Alex’. Truth be told it is really about the build up, the campaign has to be such that any resistance and ability to fight back must be totally eroded so that when this coup de grace is applied they are just plunged into a broken silence.”
“I see but how does silence provide you with fuel?”
“Easily. It is the tortured look on their face that provides me with the fuel, the strangled sob, the look of total and utter defeat in their eyes. Those tears which trickle down their face as they look at me in a mixture of horror and disbelief. I have told you before about how a wildebeest has that strange expression on its face, something between terror and confusion as a lion eats it alive. It is the same there. Bringing about such an expression combined with this silence produces premium fuel.”
I stretch as I savour the memories which flood my mind at the mention of this technique.
“What is it about that reducing this person to such a state that appeals to you beyond this level of fuel that you obtain?” asked Dr E.
“The fact that is demonstrates that I have total hegemonic control over them.”
“Leaving you able to do what?”
“Anything I like. After all, nobody prevents me from doing what I want.”
“By rendering them into this state you remove their capacity to object to whatever you do?” he queried.
I nod.
“But surely that makes them little more than an automaton and if that is the case how can they be of use to you in such a state? I should have though that they would now be devoid of providing you with the reaction that you require?”
“But this state is a reaction in itself Dr E, it is a pinnacle of the campaign and represents triumph on my part, it exemplifies my supremacy and my power and the desolate eyes, trembling mouth and forlorn expression all amount to a reaction and a satisfying one at that.”
“I see,” said Dr E and he continued to write. I waited for him to finish the sentence in his notebook before he looked at me.
“And of course ultimately there is something else that arises from this shell shocked silence.”
“What is that?” he asked.
“Silence gives consent.”
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“I do not hope they beat the other team. I either know they will or they will not and at present it is more often the former.”
Loved your answer, but feel a bit dazed like those folks in the Pat sketches of Saturday Night Live, trying to pull a revealed gender out of Pat
☺️
I can help you with that, I am male.
Non sequitur, but peng. 💋
You referenced struggling with gender reveal, hence I assisted. Simple really.
But SNL was only an analogy for trying to measure what you mean by Favourite team. I connect it with hope but respect your definition.
For some reason I enjoy these sessions with Dr.E. that HG shares. They are very enlightening for the most part.
Maybe he’s also providing some of his own form of backup … the more he knows about HG and how he operates, the more ‘prepared’ he can be.
The game of cat and mouse goes on … and on … and on.
I need a TW. Haha. This article always upsets me. I WILL PUNCH YOU!
I do not condone physical violence, but I do erupt. I don’t go silent. Fighting is fuel, but I’ll be damned if I do nothing.
Dear Mr Tudor,
I believe I was ‘shell shocked, when I discovered my mother secretly moved house without telling me and no forwarding address
I was completely n utterly stunned and speechless
She would’ve known, from a distance
Would that be correct ?
Luv Bubbles xx 😘
Hi Bubbles, if you don’t mind me asking, was your mother a narcissist?
My mom did the same thing to my dad. He was here in the US and my mom and I were in another country as I was his secret love child. He wrote letters to my grandma asking where we moved and when my mom was running out of money she finally wrote to him again. He was a dirty empath and my mom was the narcissist.
Dearest MommyPino,
Not was, still is
🤣
Luv Bubbles xx 😘
OMG haha Bubbles sorry for the wrong tense. I have a tendency to do that! 😂😬
Thank you for confirming! I am thinking that is probably a move that only narcissists would do. I’m adding that to my red flags. 🚩
💕 MP
Dearest MommyPino,
😂 I just saw the funny side of what you said
I understand people who do ‘moonlight flits’ however, this was very deliberate, premiditated and intentional
Fast forward 21 years later when I finally found out, mum said ……
“it was meant to be a joke”
Yeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhh rrrrriiiiiiight, now try and pull the other leg
There was also no forwarding phone number
My mother has an excuse for everything
Red flag ? 🤔 Hell yes !
A ‘normal’ person would inform you, indicate they were house hunting, probably ask you to help in some way, have a celebratory drink or a house warming
My mother’s obviously not normal 😂
What’s the situation with your mum n dad now MommyPino, are they both active in your life ?
Luv Bubbles xx 😘
Haha Bubbles thank you for seeing the humor in it!
Haha the narcissists and their jokes! I disappeared without a trace because I thought it would make you laugh! 😂
My mom and dad are both dead. I was able to unite and live with my dad for almost a year before he died. He was terminal with cancer and I had the honor of taking care of him. He was a wonderful man and he was so sharp, funny and sweet until the end. It was a pleasure to be by his side.
My mom died last year from tuberculosis. It was supposed to be 💯 curable but her need to assert control meant she refused to follow the doctors’ instruction and didn’t take her medications as she was supposed to do. She was also very disrespectful to the doctors and nurses and refused life saving medical procedures. I was able to go home to our country and take care of her a few days before she died. My relatives said she was just waiting for me. Her last motherly advice to me is that I should try to not be a hypocrite because even if I act squeaky clean God can see what’s really in my heart. 😂. It humored me and I didn’t take it to heart as I already knew what she was. I was more irritated that she wasn’t taking her medications. But I am happy to think that finally she is at peace. I think that it’s for the best. 💕
Dearest MommyPino,
I am so happy for you to have spent time with your Dad MP, sounds as though you’re a “chip off the old block” (your dad), being an empath like him and thankfully will always have those precious memories to treasure
Your mum seems to have possessed that stubborn narc streak, no one tells them what to do, they know best, that need to upset the apple cart right to the end
Our dear old friend is like that, he refuses to get under the bed covers, sleeps in his clothes, have showers and a colonoscopy and obstropolous every other time
Rings me frequently saying he’s dying and everything is bigger and greater than Ben Hur and GTWT put together, woe is me 😩
It’s ‘ironic’ your mother called YOU a hypocrite, narcs are the biggest hypocrites on the planet, so glad you didn’t take it to heart even though she tried to guilt trip you one more time
You’re a good person with a good heart MommyPino, that’s all you need to know
Luv Bubbles xx 😘
Thank you so much Bubbles. Your kind words really struck me. It is really very kind of you.💕
Thank you, I am forever thankful that I got to know him in person. I only saw a few sides of him through his letters. It was fascinating to see that I had more things in common with him even though he didn’t raise me. It was really important for me to have that chance to connect with him beyond the letters and it has made a really big impact on me.
I’m sorry that you also had to deal with that kind of N. They are very difficult and chaotic. It sounds like your N friend is also a Victim and maybe a Lesser too or a Lower MR. I hope that he doesn’t have kids. I’m glad that you also found HG’s works to help you understand him and your mom. It really is a game changer to understand what we are dealing with. I hope that he doesn’t bother you as much or at all. And the same with your mom. I hope that you’re able to have a safe and healthy distance with her. It’s so difficult to have Ns in life and it’s amazing that you are able to maintain a positive outlook. 💕
HG remember Anthony Hopkins in Silence of the Lambs .
You remind me of that character , in your opinion did they get that correct , the mindset , charm , cleverness to unnerve.
Kiki
Do you mean did they get that right with regard to those features for me? Yes.
I do not eat people though. I prefer to play with them.
At least you don’t play with your food.
Although of course I do.
HG, be a good boy and eat up all your vegetables . Dont play with your food.
Ha Ha
You’ve misunderstood
It’s always more fun to play first Violetta
Well Thank God For That !
I’m sure HG you are far more handsome than Anthony Hopkins though .😉
Kiki
Correct although he is nearly as good an actor as me.
Guess I am watching Silence of The Lambs again with a whole new perspective
Doubtless with a box of Chianti eh my humble empath!
Anthony Hopkins is definitely not a turn on.
Same problem as John Wayne. Many men adored them but they don’t do it for me.
These things are subjective/in the eye of the beholder!
You might even say it’s a matter of perspective!
HG, looks like Daniel Craig.
“HG, looks like Daniel Craig”
And sounds quite a bit like Roger Moore.
(is it just me?)
My eyebrows do not move as high as Roger Moore´s.
Men adored John Wayne? Never thought about that Another Cat!
And definitely subjective, Emma. I’m always coming from a subjective POV here, unless I say otherwise 😉
Haha, HG 😛 Looks are certainly a matter of perspective. This is one where I’ll accept relativism comes into play. Personal taste or choice as to what you find attractive. I’ve already given up two of my hotties here.
They certainly did, if they were the Marion kind. Aaaaffaaaaannkkkuuuu!
LOL to the Marion kind, HG. I forgot that was his real name.
I got ghosted with a John Wayne line, the last words he said to his wife apparently:
“Of course I know who you are. You’re my girl. I love you.”
And then he phucked off! What a POS. And yes, another narcissist.
Pleased you picked up on that.
Haha. Marion. Even if they knew they wouldn’t dare.
And it only took me a minute 🙂
Some days I’m fast on the trigger!
BUT HIS ACTING IS !!!!
My thoughts exactly!
I thought of that character – along with Christopher Lee’s portrayals of Dracula and Rasputin!
He’s good, he’s fucking with you.
Oh he’s not good, he’s trying. I have him right where I want him and I’m now starting to squeeze.
So this must be very challenging for you then.
Not especially.
Makes sense HG, I think that you are outsmarting him though. I think this is just a job for him. Dr. O sounds more genuine. This is just my opinion
I got no sympathy for this guy. After some of the quacks I’ve encountered, he deserves every bit of it
Fucking A, Violetta.
I’m not too fond of his questions to you. A bit voyeur asking cul de sac questions which can only be answered by giving out painful personal details. Putting you on the spot.
You are right V, this guy sounds weird and the question he asks is strange however he thinks he is doing his job but I believe something else is behind it. I feel like he cannot be trusted for some reason. Gut instinct.
I think HG has already indicated that this guy is a sock puppet for the family, but I’m smelling some mid-range schadenfreude. Like teachers telling me, “Don’t you WANT to get along with people? Working with others can be FUN.” I wondered why I could make friends with neighborhood kids or scout campers, or even kids in the same school but not the same class, despite that fact Mrs. Poison Pollyanna or Ms. Strychnine Smiley-Face were trying to help me.
It wasn’t despite–it was BECAUSE. Dr. E is focussing on HG’s sadism, which HG is honest about, while failing to address his own–about which Dr. E is not.
Remind me, why do you have to talk to him? It’s like a Brain wanking competition.
Are you in prison or what’s this shit about?
I have not told you the first time why I have to talk to him, therefore I cannot remind you. Obtain Knowing HG.
No, I am not in prison.
I hear bells. Do you hear bells?
HG’s brain is bigger and has more gyri and sulci. It’s the Rough Rider ribbed version of brains.
Hahahaha!
V, I think Dr. E. Is learning from HG than the other way around. HG should be asking him some serious questions. Where do some these doctor’s get their degree from I shake my head.
Eternity:
He could be learning from HG, but there is a limit to what he can learn. He will filter everything through whatever his terministic screen is, whether it’s Freud, Jung, Carl Rogers (whom I would gladly beat to a pulp if he were still alive), or whoever was the flavor of the month when he got his training.
He will try to learn just enough from hg so he can manipulate him, or help HG’s family manipulate him. He will not be aware that this is what he’s doing, because he’s some kind of mid-ranger.
It’s ironic: I used to think Dr. O should get off the case because she obviously wasn’t able to stay completely objective about HG, but her intentions are pretty straightforward. She has no desire to manipulate.
I’m going to guess that Dr. E’s tactics are challenge fuel. Yeah, go ahead and try to manipulate HG. Tell us how it went.
Bottom line V, in the end Dr.E is going downhill and HG will win.
OTOH, maybe Freud knew something. Michael Cohen has confirmed the Golden Shower rumors about Trump. Between Trump’s weeing wenches, Amber’s poopy pallet, and Meghan’s camping experiences earning her the sobriquet “Princess Pee,” it appears the US must have gone through a protracted crisis in toilet-training.
Certainly does sound to me like he’s 100% wasting his time in trying to treat you.
He can waste his time, but not mine.
So you dont mind that he asks you all these questions HG? He is really worth the money? Look at all the advice you give us here on the blog ,we dont go to therapy because we have you.😉
I am far more effective than therapy.
I object to some of his questions however, the end justifies the means. Victoria aut morte.
What makes you say that? While I’m aware that there are dodgy psychotherapists and the like out there (and it’s my personal impression that psychotherapists are trained to know how to manipulate – even if the end result is an intended beneficial one to patients with the better ones out there), I couldn’t pick up on any obvious clues from reading that alone!
Dr E seems to ask cliché questions which could make anyone suffer, they don’t seem specific about HG.
In another article, Putting A Sex On You, about whether HG is anxious about aging, losing sexual libido, and death. I mean this creates a depressing mood for anybody. The way it was timed and phrase, it felt like an old cheap shot question bought in Aldi.
HG , are you still in treatment with The Good Doctors? Do you find it has helped you in your personal and professional life and how to deal with people on a more empathetic level or I should say cognitive level.
I am, although the level of interface has reduced because I have been away from the UK for extended periods of time.
I have found the process very useful for achieving my aims.
Thats great HG! I wish you the best of luck even though you dont need it.
I enjoying reading your sessions with The Good Doctors .
HG , so basically the victim is broken down to the point where they cant speak , but you see their reaction in silence. So is that what gives you Fuel and control because you caused this to happen with your words and behaviour towards your victim?
Silence is not fuel, although there is not complete silence if you will (facial expression, look in the eyes, body language remain and provide fuel). The consent provides control.
Thank you HG, I am starting to understand the concept.
Jolly good.
The silence gives consent to what?
I’m a little confused about the ‘consent’.
What exactly are they consenting to, HG?
Their total destruction?
I think he means consent to do whatever at all he wants with her in that moment. The revelation causes such shock that the empath is unable to react or respond. It is the feeling of absolute loss for her and the feeling of full and absolute control for him.
Correct.
I can definitely 100% appreciate why the gaining control part is accurate. But consent? If somebody is in such a state of strong shock that they can’t react or respond as they usually would then don’t logically see how that works – anymore than a rape victim is giving consent to being raped when they’re date rape drugged. It’s just not clear to me…
Emma
That is because you are thinking as an empath and not as a narcissist. Their thinking works for them to achieve their goal/aim They are not concerned with the other person. This is not how you normally think – thus your confusion.
I was going with control until I realized the control was already in place (at least from my perspective). Consent after gaining control can only mean one thing and that is absolute domination. Complete conquest. Which in my mind also relates to destruction. Destruction of the will. Which this sounds like to me. Going a step further than control to conquest.
“I have told you before about how a wildebeest has that strange expression on its face, something between terror and confusion as a lion eats it alive. It is the same there.”
I just have to ask … did you eat any of them?
Them?
Your conquests.
I’m just kidding, btw.
But, they might have gone well with a nice Chianti and some Fava beans 😉
(You were talking about ‘silence’ …)
No.
I’m hoping the poor wildebeest’s nerves have stopped functioning and it feels no pain. That’s why it looks confused.
Well, you know what I tell you about hope.
I hoped Arsenal won the FA Cup. and they did. I also hoped they would beat Man City in the Semi in order to reach the final and they did. Hope, hope, hope, hope, hope oh I’m not one to gloat, gloat, gloat.
I think you’ll find the footballers won the FA Cup and it had nothing to do with you hoping they would. Your hoping has no effect at all and was thus pointless.
hmmmm well statistcally speaking my hope has been very effective so far, I hoped Man City would beat Real Madrid (I hoped that just for you) and they did. I hoped it would rain this afternoon and it did. I hoped it would be hot as fuck all weekend and it was. I hope I’m going to have an indian for dinner, I’ll let you know the outcome if you like? I’m feeling pretty confident. I have this hope thing sussed!
I hope you shut up, oh look it failed!
Hahahahaha love it! oh god thst was a good one for you HG
See, hope is useless.
“Good one for you” yes because I am well known on the blog for having no sense of humour.
Go and find some more famous suspected narcissists and make a list to send me. You know you love doing that.
Gaaaggghhh nooo you know I love you loads xxxxx
I know, you big flirt.
I also hope my last comment will be taken in the spirit it was meant.
But some hopes have more chance of success than other hopes. Up the gunners!
god I’m sad lol
I hope I don’t get to shell shocked silence
HG to AS2016
” Your hoping has no effect at all and was thus pointless”
But cheering at the stadium helps the players.
HG, when you watch your favourite team, do you hope that they beat the other team?
(I’m asking about wordchoice)
Yes AC and hoping is not cheering and cheering alone does not beat the other team, it will give the players a lift admittedly but it does not secure wins. Take for example the fact that teams have continued to win with no fans in the stadium!
No, I do not hope they beat the other team. I either know they will or they will not and at present it is more often the former. Anyway, must dash, I have a flight to Lisbon to catch.
Alexis2016
I hope the indian escapes.