Why Does the Narcissist Seem Like a Different Person?



It is accurate to state that we operate in three essential states. There are varying degrees within those states, differing levels of intensity which are affected by factors such as the type of narcissist that we are, what we require from you, the level of empathic individual you are as well as several others. Nevertheless, there are three basic states. The first, as you would expect, is the golden setting. We are at our most wonderful, most brilliant and most loving when in this state.

This always appears during our seduction of you and we will reinstate it from time to time and often when we hoover you in order to suck you back in and keep you hanging on to us. The second is the dark setting when we instigate our devaluation of you. This dark setting allows us to deploy our various machinations against you, a variety of different of manipulations as the abuse begins and we make your life particularly unpleasant.

This requires effort and energy on our part and whilst we will be rewarded with fuel, a certain degree of application is required to use these manipulations against you. When we unveil our dark setting it is upsetting and confusing but often you will find some reason to explain our behaviour. It is usually the wrong reason but you will find one nevertheless as you like to understand and have a reason to explain why someone is behaving in a certain way towards you – you decide we are stressed, tired, hungover, in need of affection or perhaps you are unduly harsh on yourselves so that you, in that usual empathic manner, blame yourself for the behaviour we have meted out against you.

Perhaps you did not listen when you ought to have done, perhaps you should have realised that we wanted to go out tonight, or that we would not want chicken for a second time this week.

There is a third setting and this often proves more confusing that our unpleasant dark setting. This setting might be regarded as a neutral setting, somewhere between the golden and the dark, but it is not. This setting is on the road to the dark setting and is closer to that than the golden. This particular setting is the stranger setting.

There will be times when we do not wish to apply considerable energy to our continued devaluation of you, but the devaluation must continue. It may not be as harsh, since there is no shouting, no violence, no insults and such like. It is not the golden period because we show no affection, we do not do things for you and we do not exhibit any of the charm that once flowed so readily from us.

During this stranger setting we are neither wonderful nor awful but we behave like someone who doesn’t really know you and you are certainly left feeling like you are dealing with somebody else.

If you telephone us we will not dole out a silent treatment and ignore your repeated calls. We will not answer in less than a ring and speak to you with affection and enthusiasm, instead we answer and engage in a monosyllabic conversation. It is like drawing teeth. We confirm that nothing is wrong and you may think there is but we have not responded angrily or harshly. We have not accused you of anything, we have not labelled you in some way but the conversation is flat.

It is as if our personality, whether golden or dark has vanished and left almost an automaton in its place. We function, we talk about our day but with little detail and certainly no enthusiasm. We ask questions of you but they are polite and perfunctory as if we are just going through the motions. There is no nastiness, no backbiting or sneering. It is difficult to process because it is not nothing, that cannot be the case because we are talking to you, but it feels like nothing.

We may call around to see you but it feels like an inspector has called around. We sit, we decline a drink that you offer us and we answer your questions without offering you anything much in return. Where has the charmer gone? Where has the monster gone? Who is this stranger that looks like us, sounds like us but is not behaving like us?

You cannot accuse us of being unpleasant but it feels unpleasant because you are dealing with someone you do not recognise. Any questions about what is wrong with us are politely answered and you are assured there is not a problem, but we seem lifeless. You flatter us, compliment us and whilst we accept them there is no spark of interest, there is no response.

Why are we like this? Why is this being done? Why do we seem like someone else? It is as if we have been abducted by aliens in the night and replaced with a robot which is neither wonderful nor savage but is frustratingly something else. This third setting occurs during the devaluation period. It is not a respite from devaluation as that is the golden setting once more. It is clearly not the dark setting as that is the rolling out of nastiness and abuse.

This third setting is an indicator of the calm before the storm. Whilst there are occasions where we might switch from golden to dark setting in the blink of an eye, this third setting is used when we wish to conserve energy in readiness for unleashing a particular savage next stage in the devaluation as we will move to the dark setting and crank it up to eleven. You are not cruising along being driven by fair winds, nor are you being thrown up and down buffeted by a storm, instead you are becalmed or moved along by a weak breeze.

This is the time we are girding our loins, gathering information and plotting. The switch of functions to the organisation and scheming of what is to come, along with the intense outpouring of energy required to sustain the vicious intensifying of this devaluation means we adopt this near automatic state.

You may not ever see this happen dependent on the nature of the narcissist you have become entangled with, but when you do, you should be aware that a storm is brewing and not just any old storm but a supercell storm of savage and damaging proportions.

This is a warning.

15 thoughts on “Why Does the Narcissist Seem Like a Different Person?

  1. lisk says:

    Yes, neutral setting. I remember it well.

    I can still see him sitting at the dining room table, staring out at the night sky with a glass of ice water in his hand.

    I found him there after waking up to an empty bed and looking to see what was up. I knew something was up because he would ALWAYS sleep straight through the night.

    I asked if he was okay. And yes he was fine he would be back to bed soon.

    I can still feel that horrible feeling in my gut as I looked at him continue to stare, like he was already gone and making plans without me.

    It still took some time before the intense devaluation would begin. Now after reading HG, I know my gut feeling was right about that moment.

  2. Empath007 says:

    Urgh. So I haven’t changed at all. I put myself
    At risk at the wedding tonight all to make everyone else happy.

    I guess the next best thing I can do is to try and not feel guilty about it. And rest so If I get sick I can fight it off.

    I’m terrified 💔

  3. Fire_D says:

    I urgently need to know:

    At this point, is there no way to fix this? As in, could this be a corrective devaluation that can be steered away from the storm brewing? At this moment, can we get painted white if we prove to be a valuable positive supply again? If you could help me out here, that would be amazing. I hope my tone of desperation is coming across through text, as well as my willingness to understand.

    Thank you!

    1. HG Tudor says:

      No, you cannot, with any guarantee of success, control someone who must control.

      1. lisk says:

        This in itself is a great stand-alone quote.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          Indeed it is and it is one I regularly utilise when people ask me to help them manipulate the narcissist in some way.

      2. Eternity says:

        HG, so the Narcissist wants to control everyone including us. I have learned this from you. We cannot control the Narcissist and he will switch to a different manipulation instinctively .

        1. HG Tudor says:

          The narcissist has to obtain The Prime Aims which include control which is very important. If you do something which the narcissist perceives as controlling him or her, it is threat to the narcissists control (see The 3 Key Interactions) and this will cause the narcissist to respond in accordance with The 3 Assertions of Control.

          1. Eternity says:

            Thank you HG, I re read that one. Challenge Fuel is very interesting.

          2. HG Tudor says:

            Indeed it is and The 3 Assertions of Control should be read by EVERYBODY in order to understand narcissism.

      3. Fire_D says:

        Thank you so much for responding! You’re absolutely correct that I cannot control the person who needs to be in control. Now I’m a bit concerned that I didn’t realize that what I was asking for would be a form of manipulating the narcissist.

        What I had also wondered was how to differentiate this above state from a form of corrective devaluation. Since, as you’ve said, there is no way to control he who must be in control, the only way to answer this question on my end would be to wait and see what ends up happening. That’s the conclusion I’ve reached.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          You are welcome. To receive additional assistance with regard to your situation and thus gain understanding, I recommend that you organise a consultation with me and I will be pleased to provide you with the benefit of my expertise.

  4. Asp Emp says:

    He was a ‘stranger’ towards me in front of others. When alone with me, appeared “normal” yet he was still ‘distant’, especially in the last couple of months before my supanova. I deserved an explanation for the ‘changes’……

  5. conmycat says:

    Thank you HG Tudor. The information you provide is valuable. It is amazing how precise you are!!!

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Indeed and you are welcome.

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