Crazed : How a Mid-Range Narcissist Manipulates

5 thoughts on “Crazed : How a Mid-Range Narcissist Manipulates

  1. Bubbles 🍾 says:

    Dear Mr Tudor,
    Boom ….. it’s that easy ! Horrifying !
    I feel the narc is doing this to our son, that’s why he’s in therapy, (he never used to be, ever) ……….narc’s gaining more control !
    Excellent monologue and your ‘realism’ is what we need to put it into its true perspective
    Thank you
    Luv Bubbles xx 😘

  2. leelasfuelstinks says:

    Ouch, that hurts! Oh that was perfectly accurate, so accurate that it couldn´t finish it due to flashback. 🙁 Could just listen to half of it. Too bad! 🙁

  3. Sophie says:

    I’m a bit confused. I have had this conversation with who I thought was my narcissist. He had said I was abusive because I was having this conversation with him trying to get him help, and he actually did need help and still does. Bits of the conversation sound exactly like him (“don’t interrupt me, I only want to help you, your temper has gotten worse over the past few months, should you maybe call your doctor and discuss your meds?, I’ve done some reading on the meds your on, and it’s quite concerning, I never did that, that was you) and bits sound like me (we need to talk, I’ve noticed this about your behaviour lately, we only want to help you, my parents are concerned, remember when you thought I shut off the stove when I didn’t, I can’t believe you can’t remember what you did the other night, no that was you, not me, I’m not a doctor but) except i actually whole heartedly wanted to help him for the sake of our relationship. He did have lapses in his memory (because he’d stay up all night looking at porn, talking to his exes, smoking a shit ton of pot and not get enough sleep) and he had a lot of issues that he was not dealing with. (Easily angered, frustrated, constantly irritable, communicating mostly about himself, getting angry if the baby interrupted him, if I needed to sleep etc.

    So my question is, was he flipping it all around on me whenever I’d confront him about his behaviour? Or am I a mid-range narcissist because they don’t notice their behaviour is narcissistic?


    Ps: I am on meds for a sleep disorder, I don’t participate in recreational drug use and rarely drink. I am an anxious person but don’t get angry suddenly. I feel like I’ve become angrier due to the relationship with my ex narc. His mother is also more than likely one.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Assuming he is a narcissist, your questioning him about his behaviour amounted to Challenge Fuel and therefore he responded in the manner described as an assertion of control. If you wish to understand more about how you interact with the narcissist, go to The Knowledge Vault and obtain “The 3 Interactions With the Narcissist” and “The 3 Assertions of Control”.

  4. Asp Emp says:

    Interesting in how I thought when I went this video (I’d seen this article some time ago). I say thought because a few weeks ago, I’d be reminded of that MRN. This time, it was the ones at work. The ‘higher-ups’ and their manipulations over me (& other people!). They’ve been doing it especially in the last 15 years….. they started their “s**t” on me from day one – how naive & innocent I was back then. They don’t know why they ‘instinctively’ needed to do this to me immediately = exertion of control; they didn’t like my analytical mind = threat to their control; denial that my intelligence was higher level than theirs = grandiosity (no-one is “allowed” to be better than a narcissist); made me their scapegoat when I pointed out their ‘procedures’ don’t work = blame shifting….. I could go on but some people may be so very bored by now. Point is, I know & understand but won’t accept their treatment of me. Yet I’ve moved on, knowing that they lost a genuine & valuable asset…..

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