The Saviour Empath
There are four schools of empath (Co-Dependent, Standard, Super and Contagion). There are many cadres of empath which layer on to those schools. These cadres include the Carrier, the Magnet and the Geyser, about which I have written previously. A further cadre is that of the Saviour/Savior Empath.
The Saviour Empath’s mission is to heal and to save, to ensure that good prevails. They are the archetypal believer in the idea that there is some good in everybody. With regard to our kind, the Saviour Empath does not consider that we are intrinsically ‘evil’ or ‘bad’. They prefer to adopt the view that there is good locked away inside of us and that it just has to be discovered, unlocked and set free. This notion of course and the desire to address this apparent goodness is a very strong binder which enables us to keep a hold on the Saviour Empath. Indeed, there are those of our kind who will play on this concept and this is addressed below.
The Saviour Empath feels an overriding need to save the world. They wish to right the wrongs, heal the sick, tend to the injured and ensure that injustices are overturned. It is this desire which is at the very heart of the Saviour Empath. The Saviour Empath is often someone who subscribes to a belief system (whether it is organised religion, karma, paganism or similar) although the absence of such a belief does not discount the person as being a Saviour Empath, but a reliance on a belief system is a hallmark of the Saviour Empath. How does this manifest with regard to each school of empath?
Standard Empath – the Saviour Standard Empath regards it as imperative that he or she comes to the aid of people. They will donate to charity, help out voluntary organisations and are giving of their time. With regard to the narcissist, this manifests as adopting a sympathetic and compassionate approach to the unusual behaviours (when the empath is not aware they are ensnared by a narcissist) of the narcissist. Accordingly, they regard the narcissist as a ‘good’ person (supported by the narcissist’s illusory behaviour during the golden period) and therefore when devaluation occurs they will ascribe the behaviour to arising from a third party event rather than seeing it as the behaviour of the narcissist at work. The Standard Empath wants to assist the narcissist and does so by trying to understand and offer solutions linked to the aberrant behaviour that is being witnessed. The Saviour Standard Empath whilst wanting to save the narcissist from whatever terrible third party event or influence that is causing the behaviour (for example, is the narcissist struggling at work, is he stressed, has he got problems with money or drink?). The Saviour Standard Empath will put themselves in the firing line when trying to assist, but they do not tend to regard the problem as much to do with them but rather another factor which they want to tackle and overcome.
Super Empath – the Saviour Super Empath is akin to a caped crusader who fires into action whenever he or she witnesses injustice. They cannot help but interfere when really it is not their business (this is the narcissistic trait of selfishness coming to the fore momentarily). The Saviour Super Empath will not turn a blind eye to someone in trouble, they will help the injured person and then look to tackle the perpetrator (or at least bring them to account through formal channels). Thus is the Saviour Super Empath sees someone being attacked, they will help the victim, look to fight off the attacker and/or chase them down, either themselves or enlisting help. They cannot let any kind of injustice go unaddressed. The Saviour Super Empath has a very strong moral compass and therefore when they see something that is wrong, it very much boils their piss so they spring into action. Whilst they always look to help people, what really matters to the Saviour Super Empath is bringing people to account for their actions. If they see a person cutting into a queue (line) they will upbraid the offender. If they witness a person stealing, they will look to stop them or report them. The Saviour Super Empath is a firm believer in the need for good to prevail, whether this is in a situation or in a person. With regard to the narcissist that a Saviour Super Empath is embroiled with, the Saviour Super Empath knows that this person has a kernel of goodness and if they only triedto embrace it, let it shine etc then such a difference will appear. They believe the narcissist has it inside of them to make adjustments, amend their behaviour and harness the intrinsic goodness inside of them. The Saviour Super Empath knows that they are a force for good and they believe that the narcissist can do the same. The Saviour Super Empath recognises that they themselves are good people but that they have some degree of edge to them (their narcissistic traits appearing from time to time) and they often regard the narcissist in the same light – a person who has edge but is intrinsically good – and this fools the Saviour Super Empath in to wanting to assist and save the narcissist.
The Co-Dependent – the Co-Dependent who is of the Saviour Cadre finds the world to be a terrible place and wishes to administer succour to the downtrodden, to assist the hurt, and to heal the wounds of the injured. They are less concerned about bringing the offender to justice and more about attending to the people who are left cowering and broken in the wake of oppression and violence. The Saviour Co-Dependent is a person who is extremely caring and compassionate – the type of person who would join Medicins Sans Frontieres and arriving at the scene of a humanitarian disaster would work themselves into the ground to try and ease the suffering of each and every person even though it is an impossible task. They are often overwhelmed by the cruelty of the world and despair at its evil ways, but this will not stop them from trying to save each and every person who is in need of help. This applies to the way they engage with the narcissist. The Saviour Co-Dependent (“SCD”) knows and is absolutely convinced that the narcissist is at heart a good person and with the right application of guidance, support, compassion and tolerance the narcissist will change, will improve and let that goodness shine. The SCD will not give up on the narcissist, even to personal cost to themselves. They know that redemption is just around the corner, that improvement is on the horizon and they will, with a zeal bordering on delusion, grasp at any sign of improvement or alteration in the narcissist’s behaviour as evidence that their faith has not proven incorrect.
The SCD will flagellate themselves in the pursuit of trying to help and heal the narcissist, their emotional thinking and innate desire to do good, plus their own need to achieve validation through their giving of themselves means he or she will continue to try to achieve the impossible. They will not wish to give up, they will see glimmers of hope, slivers of optimism and fragments of possibility in order to achieve their aim of saving the narcissist.
The Contagion – the Saviour Contagion Empath (“SCE”) will manifest their desire to assist as a consequence of the severe impact felt by them of the negative energy, suffering and misery that accompanies the human condition. The desire to save and resolve, to eradicate the diseased and bring about the healing is different to that of the other schools of empath. The SCE needs to achieve this in order to secure balance, which is their primary aim. By redressing the bad, through their saving good works then balance is restored and the polluting impact upon them of the negative energy which they feel – the manifestation of the woe, misery and hurt that others feel – is removed and no longer (albeit temporarily) ceases to be a burden upon them. With regard to the narcissist, the removal of the dark energy surrounding and flowing from the narcissist’s behaviours has a considerable impact on the finely-tuned SCE. In order to alleviate their own pain, in order to prevent themselves from being consumed by the darkness which they acutely feel, the SCE seeks to save the narcissist from their dark self. They similarly wish to achieve balance with their own personal narcissist or narcissists.
How are these various schools of Saviour Empath regarded by our brethren? As you might expect, the SE is naturally desired by narcissists for their empathic traits, class and special traits too. Accordingly, no narcissist will ever shy away from the ensnaring of the SE. There are certain schools and cadres of narcissist however that desire the SE in particular.
Victim Narcissists desire the Saviour Empath owing to their need to be mothered, looked after and saved from their various ailments (real or imagined). The SE’s desire to bring about healing and resolution is savoured by this cadre of narcissist. Lesser Narcissists will not turn away a Saviour Empath, but they are not favoured (unless the Lesser is of the Victim Cadre) since the Lesser has no truck with the idea of being healed or saved. From what? Will be the mocking response as their complete lack of self-awareness means that they have no comprehension or need to be saved in that manner.
Mid Range Narcissists treasure Saviour Empaths because of the fact that some Mid Range Narcissists like to play the ‘troubled soul’ or ‘personal demons’ approach. Whilst unaware of what they are, their awareness that there is something not quite right, coupled with their passive behaviours and need for attention, means that the Mid Range Narcissist truly sees the Saviour Empath as the one who will save him from himself, even though this is just part of the manipulation to keep the Saviour Empath hooked. The Mid Range will revel in becoming the pet project for the Saviour Empath and will instinctively play along by tossing a bone of apparent awareness or improvement in order to maintain the hoped for glorious redemption that the Saviour Empath craves.
The Greater Narcissist is likely to prefer other cadres but again is not going to kick the Saviour Empath out of bed for eating crisps. The Greater may find tormenting the Saviour Empath a delightful machination by increasing the visibility of their dark side so that the Saviour Empath sees a challenge which has to be surmounted. Of course, the Saviour Empath is blind to the fact that the Greater cannot be healed or saved, but that will not stop the Saviour Empath from trying time and time again.
18 thoughts on “The Saviour Empath”
Muchos apologies, HG, for not inserting my following comment in the correct section on your site – so I am putting it in ‘here’…..
A “newish” condition?!?!
Complex Post Stress Traumatic Disorder ?!?! (CPSTD). Apparently.
I am now seriously questioning the whole DSM-5 so called “system”.
What on EARTH are science and the medical ‘world’ DOING now?!
People have enough “information” that is being “bandied” around the internet.
There is something SERIOUSLY wrong with the whole “system”. Because they are simply adding MORE and MORE trivia and BS to what they are NOT admitting!
Truth is, medical & science world still do not know what the fuck is going on. So, they add more BS to the so-called, already, seriously fkd up DSM-5.
Someone, hello? One person needs to take full and utter control of all this crap that is just adding unnecessary ‘fuel to fires’ and SIMPLFY the whole fkg system. FFS.
If I could fkg sort it out by myself, I fkg would. And tell them stupid asses in science and medical world (FFS, fkg useless) to go and shove all their fkg “theories” up their fkg asses. I am sick and tired of BS and ignorance…..
This RANT IS NOT OVER……
I’ll take the cloak if it’s on offer 🙂
This aspect of my makeup is largely the reason it is so difficult for me to accept certain things, like that the narcissist thinks differently than normal and empathic people or that they cannot change.
This is also the article that made me realize in what ways I am more standard than super, they were close, and that it makes sense. I am not a caped crusader, unless it’s a child or an animal. I have been known to call the police upon witnessing atrocities but not to actually step in myself. Also, I volunteer if I believe in a cause.
Really enjoyed this article.
I have only Savior minority elements but not very strong, I though they were stronger. When I saw the EDC results the first time I was surprised that Savior is only minority element but if makes perfectly sense.
Same here. After reading HG’s response below, I can see how my minority traits shape my majority traits in different scenarios. My majority Standard/Super and minority Savior are likely why I travel to dangerous countries to do volunteer work.
I’m confused. I thought the cadres were in a group of their own as major or minor, between them? And the schools likewise. The cadres being layered over the schools but not major or minor to them. What am I missing? I have done the EDC so would like to understand it correctly. Thanks!
I am a total hybrid. I have representation from all cadres. However, since two are “insignificant minority” I asked HG if they manifest. I suspected that they did, but I wanted to be sure. That said, expressions of my cadres appear in relation to their compositional representation.*
You likely care to stop reading at this point, but here are a “positive” and “negative” example.
1) Standard/Super–Savior I will travel to dangerous locations abroad to volunteer because justice compels me. I am called to it despite my loved ones’ concern for my well-being. I know it hurts them and they are scared, but I must do it.
2) Standard/Super/Contagion–Geyser–While I am abroad, I work and work and work and absorb all the trauma and pain, until I quite literally cannot hold anymore and break down. It all comes spilling out at once. If I have time to recharge, I’m just fine, but my break downs are frightening if you’ve never seen them.
*Of course our individual E/N composition also make a difference. I am moderately high N.
Oh, BC30, thank you! That makes perfect sense. And I appreciate your further explanation. I am also Standard/Super/Savior but have no interest in travel to dangerous locations to volunteer. My N is moderate-low, E being moderate, this may indeed be an important factor in our difference here. Very interesting, thank you again!
Two more things:
1) I appreciate that we can speak with HG and at a reasonable cost. What other expert can one so easily consult with ?! HG takes time to answer your questions, so if in doubt, schedule your Audio Consultation straight away.
2) I have not found another Total Hybrid cadre on the forum yet. I’d really like to tho.
Tomorrow it´s my turn 😉
I agree A Victor, I thought they were grouped as schools and then cadres. My schools are majority standard, strong minority super. I have no majority cadre. They are all equal. Perfect hybrid of Carrier, Geyser, Savior.
Although I can see how they are all intertwined.
Leigh, my Savior cadre is majority with significant Carrier and insignificant Geyser. I *think* I didn’t realize the conversation was a continuing one where Leela and BC had already established it the way you and I thought it was, based on BC’s reply to me.
And I understand now why I can deal with difficult people/clients so well. I stay calm, I analyse, I look for practical solutions, I analyze and discuss options to practically solve the problem. That´s my forte. Typical Carrier. 😀
This was very interesting to read, I could see myself in some parts of this article yet will not know for sure until I have had my consultation. It will be interesting to observe the amalgamation of the empath & narcissist traits.
A good article, HG, thank you.
When Asp Emp!?? I’m probably just as curious as you are at this point.
HG – When one has an “insignificant minority” of a particular cadre does it manifest or is it latent? Why are insignificant minorities present if they never manifest?