HG, is our ‘Jack Savoretti’…… in some way, I feel it is apt – for this article – because of the ‘Tree of Knowledge’ and HG is the tree (and the book)…… thank you, HG.
For me as an ACON it´s a very long journey anyway and I know I will never be normal, there will always be scars of the abuse I had to endure as a child. Some wounds may heal but there always will be scars. Besides, I´m also here for study purposes 🙂
Thank you Leela, your calm acceptance that you will never be normal is a good thing to read. I won’t either but hadn’t thought of it that way, and I’ve been striving for it I think, something out of reach. Very good thought, thank you much.
For as long as you keep writing and/or recording, I will be reading and/or listening. Knowledge has no limits and academic is my last name…so down the rabbit hole I go.
Maybe I speak only for myself, but …
I think us victims get a “healthy”, detached dose of our narcissist, by proxy, by coming here. We have an unfortunate desire or magnetism for the narcissist, and rather than engaging with “our” narcissist, we can get our fix by experiencing HG through his delivery of audio and writings. I think it somewhat fills that “sick” need we have, and we can do that from a safe distance.
Winning Path, I have thought the same thing, getting our fix while learning, accepting, sorting things out, building strength etc. I am hopeful that there comes a point where the fix is much less important, I can visit occasionally but still avoid narcs in my real life.
Very timely. Add the title Thought Snatcher to your list of titles HG! I have questioned this of myself on more than one occasion and again most recently. The unrivalled information I have obtained here has lead to a successful result regarding the questions that prompted my arrival, but also so much more than I expected. I sometimes feel at saturation yet at the same time not quite quenched if that makes any sense. I have questioned for instance the effect of continued involvement on any Saviour element (not for narcissists but their targets). Your description of Academic pursuit seems more fitting currently. Also, I enjoy your creative flex in delivering the information, and of course – you are fascinating as an individual and I consider you the only narcissist worth “knowing”.
My colleague actually called your voice sounding god like 😄 .Eveything in this video audio file I agree with . I believe this journey will not end .I’am just starting to understand more and more by applying and investing in your work . Its usefull in every stage towards change and every layer has his own devil . It’s very important to keep coming back to your work even when the small voice draws us back to the self destructive pattern . Eventually logic will win again in the end .
I’m so grateful for this video. Every now and again, and I feel like it is my emotional thinking, I wonder if I should just leave the whole topic of narcissism alone. Am I encouraging my addiction by accessing this material? If I look at it logically, the fact is everything I have learnt here has lessened my emotional thinking and addiction to the narcissist. I was bereft in many ways when I arrived. Even though I put up a fight at the end of my relationship, it didn’t’ lessen the sense of loss or betrayal. I badly needed this dose of medicine, and in many ways it has proved to be the cure. I can’t imagine where I would be if I hadn’t taken it. I know I would be very lost, feeling vulnerable, and still a target. It has made such a difference to me, as has the opportunity to engage with other empaths who ae in the exact same position. It’s so nice to be with other people who ‘get it’, where you don’t have to explain yourself, and where you can receive encouragement and solace. So badly needed in the process of escape. There is also the inimitable sense of humour HG applies to his work and which allows all our spirits to be lifted from time to time as we deal with the dark subject matter. The first and most important point HG makes is the accessing of correct information. Where that is possible, and it is here, then you can know the medicine, no matter how bitter, will ultimately be to your benefit. Not everyone wants to take their medicine of course. Some have been taking it in massive doses as required. I think I’m one of the latter. It’s the one thing I could say I was grateful for in the year that was 2020 and will continue to be grateful for in 2021. Thank you for the reassurance this video provides, HG. It is so easy to second guess ourselves when others don’t understand. .
@lickme I swear I typed in a response to you here earlier. I mjust’ve not hit send. What I’d said was that I really appreciate what you said here and many congrats on coming through the other side. I’d said that I would love to pick your brain because I have a feeling that you know something that no one has ever told me or that I’ve come across that would help me become unstuck and would get me over the edge of where I’ve been spinning my wheels for far too long now. Ever since I made the decision to heal my childhood wounds–this was 3 1/2 years ago–I’ve been hit nonstop with one narc after another, some I knew and others are new to me, with no respite and it’s been unreal. My healing has been stunted and that’s why I’m stuck. I can’t get to the other side of this madness because I’m too busy fighting them off and everything about me has paid the price. I’m surprised I’m still here actually. Suicidal ideation has been my travelling companion for over 3 decades. I’m currently in the devaluation phase (I think) by a narc whom I’ve known for about a year and a half but only gotten to know well the past 5 or 6 months. We got along great with just a couple of issues up until about 4-6 weeks ago and then he started laying the b.s. on real thick. I want this one to be the last one, at least for awhile, but another one seems to make his way to me before this can occur. I just turned 50 last month and I’m tired. lol. I really am though and over all of this nonsense. The current one is a lot more dangerous than any of the others I’ve dealt with and that worries me a little. I would really, really like a break before I break.
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I listened and read the lyrics on this song…..
HG, is our ‘Jack Savoretti’…… in some way, I feel it is apt – for this article – because of the ‘Tree of Knowledge’ and HG is the tree (and the book)…… thank you, HG.
For me as an ACON it´s a very long journey anyway and I know I will never be normal, there will always be scars of the abuse I had to endure as a child. Some wounds may heal but there always will be scars. Besides, I´m also here for study purposes 🙂
Thank you Leela, your calm acceptance that you will never be normal is a good thing to read. I won’t either but hadn’t thought of it that way, and I’ve been striving for it I think, something out of reach. Very good thought, thank you much.
You´re very welcome, AV! 🙂
Here you can perfectly see that I´m a Super Carrier 🙂 Always looking for what I can DO about it even if it´s just to make the best of it. 🙂
For as long as you keep writing and/or recording, I will be reading and/or listening. Knowledge has no limits and academic is my last name…so down the rabbit hole I go.
Me: “maybe I should give narc site a break…”
Also me: checks narcsite 150 times a day
Maybe I speak only for myself, but …
I think us victims get a “healthy”, detached dose of our narcissist, by proxy, by coming here. We have an unfortunate desire or magnetism for the narcissist, and rather than engaging with “our” narcissist, we can get our fix by experiencing HG through his delivery of audio and writings. I think it somewhat fills that “sick” need we have, and we can do that from a safe distance.
Winning Path, I have thought the same thing, getting our fix while learning, accepting, sorting things out, building strength etc. I am hopeful that there comes a point where the fix is much less important, I can visit occasionally but still avoid narcs in my real life.
Very timely. Add the title Thought Snatcher to your list of titles HG! I have questioned this of myself on more than one occasion and again most recently. The unrivalled information I have obtained here has lead to a successful result regarding the questions that prompted my arrival, but also so much more than I expected. I sometimes feel at saturation yet at the same time not quite quenched if that makes any sense. I have questioned for instance the effect of continued involvement on any Saviour element (not for narcissists but their targets). Your description of Academic pursuit seems more fitting currently. Also, I enjoy your creative flex in delivering the information, and of course – you are fascinating as an individual and I consider you the only narcissist worth “knowing”.
Thank you, NA.
All of it.
My colleague actually called your voice sounding god like 😄 .Eveything in this video audio file I agree with . I believe this journey will not end .I’am just starting to understand more and more by applying and investing in your work . Its usefull in every stage towards change and every layer has his own devil . It’s very important to keep coming back to your work even when the small voice draws us back to the self destructive pattern . Eventually logic will win again in the end .
I’m so grateful for this video. Every now and again, and I feel like it is my emotional thinking, I wonder if I should just leave the whole topic of narcissism alone. Am I encouraging my addiction by accessing this material? If I look at it logically, the fact is everything I have learnt here has lessened my emotional thinking and addiction to the narcissist. I was bereft in many ways when I arrived. Even though I put up a fight at the end of my relationship, it didn’t’ lessen the sense of loss or betrayal. I badly needed this dose of medicine, and in many ways it has proved to be the cure. I can’t imagine where I would be if I hadn’t taken it. I know I would be very lost, feeling vulnerable, and still a target. It has made such a difference to me, as has the opportunity to engage with other empaths who ae in the exact same position. It’s so nice to be with other people who ‘get it’, where you don’t have to explain yourself, and where you can receive encouragement and solace. So badly needed in the process of escape. There is also the inimitable sense of humour HG applies to his work and which allows all our spirits to be lifted from time to time as we deal with the dark subject matter. The first and most important point HG makes is the accessing of correct information. Where that is possible, and it is here, then you can know the medicine, no matter how bitter, will ultimately be to your benefit. Not everyone wants to take their medicine of course. Some have been taking it in massive doses as required. I think I’m one of the latter. It’s the one thing I could say I was grateful for in the year that was 2020 and will continue to be grateful for in 2021. Thank you for the reassurance this video provides, HG. It is so easy to second guess ourselves when others don’t understand. .
@lickme I swear I typed in a response to you here earlier. I mjust’ve not hit send. What I’d said was that I really appreciate what you said here and many congrats on coming through the other side. I’d said that I would love to pick your brain because I have a feeling that you know something that no one has ever told me or that I’ve come across that would help me become unstuck and would get me over the edge of where I’ve been spinning my wheels for far too long now. Ever since I made the decision to heal my childhood wounds–this was 3 1/2 years ago–I’ve been hit nonstop with one narc after another, some I knew and others are new to me, with no respite and it’s been unreal. My healing has been stunted and that’s why I’m stuck. I can’t get to the other side of this madness because I’m too busy fighting them off and everything about me has paid the price. I’m surprised I’m still here actually. Suicidal ideation has been my travelling companion for over 3 decades. I’m currently in the devaluation phase (I think) by a narc whom I’ve known for about a year and a half but only gotten to know well the past 5 or 6 months. We got along great with just a couple of issues up until about 4-6 weeks ago and then he started laying the b.s. on real thick. I want this one to be the last one, at least for awhile, but another one seems to make his way to me before this can occur. I just turned 50 last month and I’m tired. lol. I really am though and over all of this nonsense. The current one is a lot more dangerous than any of the others I’ve dealt with and that worries me a little. I would really, really like a break before I break.