Johnny Depp: Empath or Narcissist? Pt 10

37 thoughts on “Johnny Depp: Empath or Narcissist? Pt 10

  1. Contagious says:

    I said at the start of the trial, Johnny is an empath and substance abuser. What clinched it for me in HG’s series….was he gave Vanessa 150 million or half without being married. No narc would ever and I mean ever do that. End of. What’s sad is I have no idea what the jury will do.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Without prejudice to the outcome, if it suited a narcissist’s pursuit of the prime sums to hand over 150 million dollars, the narcissist would.

      1. Facade management.
      2. Control – hey kids you have a great lifestyle because Dad here is so generous
      3. Control – to ex spouse – don’t forget how generous I was
      4. Control and fuel – what have you been spending my money on now? Provokes a response.
      5. Control – you should buy this, use the money to do that. Of course I can have input it’s money I gave you.
      6. A narcissist that wealthy is not left on the bones of his arse. It’s not like he’s paid her 150 million leaving him with just 5 million and all associates liabilities to service.

      1. Witch says:

        “Left on the bones of his arse” !!!

        I’m stealing it

  2. Liza says:

    I love this series of videos, I couldn’t wait to have a celebrity that i love so much, going under the Tudorscope.

    Regarding Mr.Depp’s seemingly refusal to be sober and stop using drugs, i think i can understand his mindset. Assuming that the doctor who diagnosed him with ADHD was right in his assessment, in that case, Johnny Depp simply does not trust himself. What most “normal” people don’t understand, is that in the mind of an adult with ADHD, when they start something, the question is not whether they will succeed or fail, it is more like they are sure they will fail at some point, they just try to guess at which point they will do something they shouldn’t have, and since this state generates a lot of anxiety, most of the time they just give up or knowingly self-sabotage to get rid of that restlessness. People who have ADHD are not good at tasks that do not have distinct beginnings and ends, so i don’t think that the reason he abuses drugs is out of a sense of entitlement it must be out of despair.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Useful observation

      1. Liza says:

        Thank you !

    2. Witch says:

      @Liza

      I think the fact he started when he was 11 is what is going to make his addiction much harder to control.
      Only 10 years of his life has been drug free from birth but we don’t know what his mother was taking while he was in the womb which also might have primed his brain for addiction.
      He would probably have to remain in rehab for a few years and cut off all his rock star friends and avoid parties for the rest of his life. But at his age he’s probably thinking “I have about 20 years left anyway, if that, so what’s the point.”

      1. Liza says:

        Hello Witch,

        I think you are right about the fact that his starting self-medication at such a young age compromises his chances of remaining sober. Sadly, he didn’t have the chance to develop any healthy coping mechanisms, and abusing drugs and alcohol became his default response to calming his stress. I hate being so pessimistic, but I think that unless he undergoes a very strict rehab, and then has a very healthy environment to help him create new habits, there is a great chance that he would relapse. Plus, it seems that he is narcissistic, which means that even if he feels a certain level of accountability towards his loved ones, it is not strong enough for him to consent to bear the background sadness and anxiety that is caused by his condition.

  3. Leolita says:

    Are you not publishing the last one? Missed the live stream, unfortunately.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Listen to the videos and you’ll have your answer.

  4. WiserNow says:

    Thank you for the series of videos about Johnny Depp, HG. You have waded through a lot of information and your analysis of Depp is well-researched, articulate and very informative.

  5. Christina says:

    Hg – have you ever heard of Brene Brown? I feel like she deserves to be put under the Tudorscope.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      I do not know that name.

      1. Contagious says:

        I am listening to this psychiatrist for Amber on narcs. HG : whatever you decide on Johnny Depp, you could wipe the floor with this “ expert.” It’s hard to watch. I wish you would do a cross online. How can a doctor be so inept?

        1. HG Tudor says:

          Atrocious performance

          1. Contagious says:

            He looks like the mad scientist in Back to the Future and just as knowledgeable… sad.

    2. T. Lane says:

      Christina, agreed. Ever since her series was released on HBO I’ve been feeling that she is a False Empath.

      1. WhoCares says:

        Is that T. Lane B from YT?
        If so, nice to see you here.

        1. T.L. Sensei says:

          Hi WhoCares! This is T. Lane B which is my actual name in the real world. I changed my YT name to Strangelove.

          1. WhoCares says:

            Noted!
            I appreciate you letting me know.

  6. Duchessbea says:

    HG,
    I’m still leaning towards codependent Empath. I know in Part 11 you are going to be doing for and against with Johnny, but we can all do that about ourselves. Good days, bad days, surrounding yourself with good people, hanging out with the wrong crowd. We have all been there. One thing that can be said about Johnny is his kindness has been thoroughly consistent as far back as Winnona Ryder and even before. Some things everyone can fake, but a genuine kindness is hard to pull off for that length of time. I’m rooting for Johnny, I know he is an Empath. HG, if I can make one request, would it be possible to wait until the end of the defamation suit to hear the answer on Johnny. There is a possibility of him been called back to the witness box again next week and I am very much enjoying aligning your work with the case, – the behaviour as witnessed both inside and outside court and the testimonies. I hate to keep guessing about Johnny, but this series I think is even better than Harry’s Wife. We can see it all in real time. Opinion is swayed on what the outcome of the case is going to be. In my opinion, Johnny has already been exonerated in the court of public opinion. The real Amber Heard showed up in court and the mask fell a few times. Johnny has been consistent in his evidence and behaviour. I don’t agree with and find DV abhorrent. There are many people who suffer on a daily basis in silence with DV. For Amber to make false accusations against Johnny Depp like that, makes a mockery of the suffering people go through on a daily basis with DV. She lost Johnny and tried to ruin and smear him with false allegations. Disgusting. Amber Heard’s behaviour is appalling. Johnny Depp might have had his faults with substance abuse etc. Which quite clearly was brought on by abusive behaviour, he turned to these things for support. She tried to take advantage of that weakness and exploit it for her own gain. Amber Heard should be ashamed of herself. I back Johnny Depp all the way.
    Best,
    DB

  7. mollyb5 says:

    HG , I can sense jd was an empath when I watched many of his on screen rolls . I could sense in the characters he developed and how they are a part of him. I saw a video of him in a hospital entertaining kids who were very sick and staff at the hospital. He wasn’t scripted , he listened and sensed his responses with their energy levels , which were very low , he didn’t go over the top. He knew when it was appropriate to show affection and he sensed when it would be out of place for that child. He wasn’t putting on a show for the camera …he was emotion in action.

  8. In so many words says:

    After the ten part series, the picture seems painted. HG is like a scientific researcher — it’s all about being evidence based. My prediction is that Johnny Depp is a co-dependent empath with a strong super empath element, as he has many narcissistic traits. And since he slips into quirky characters to the point of becoming one with them, and seems to need time alone at times (the tapes at trial), probably a contagion element as well. Part magnet, part savior, maybe part carrier (he got that trailer over to where it was needed).

    1. Asp Emp says:

      In so many words, interesting to read your suggested schools / cadres of Johnny. I have suggested the same. It will be interesting when HG reaches the ‘reveal’.

      1. In so many words says:

        Asp Emp nice to know you reached the same conclusion. I now listened to the whole series, and would only add “and an addict, with ADHD.”

        1. Asp Emp says:

          In so many words, thank you. You two additional considerations, I would agree.

          1. In so many words says:

            We got that wrong, haven’t we Asp Emp 🙂 I actually went from originally thinking that he is narcissistic to thinking that he is an empath based on the series. I was particularly convinced by past partners coming to his defense, by his willingness to give Vanessa Paradis half his fortune, his taking care of his mother at the end of her life, and in person charity appearances which were not extensively covered. And explained his impulsive bad behaviors by ADHD, addiction, and reaction to abuse from Heard. But then again, I made that mistake where it was far more consequential for me. I attributed my narcissist husband’s abusive behaviors to ADHD (and he does have ADHD), and thought they could change with treatment.

          2. Asp Emp says:

            In so many words, yes, we certainly did. But, hey, it is totally understandable, because there is ADHD, addiction to substance abuse behaviours to take into consideration too. Some of those behaviours are not always so ‘visible’ unless they are understood fully. I am not as familiar with the ADHD ones but I do know a couple of people who have it. I suppose my lack of hearing does give me a certain disadvantage but I should notice the body language / facial expressions. It was still a very interesting journey about JD. (thank you, HG xx). It was good to read your thoughts, thank you for sharing them 🙂

    2. I am on the fence – I see too many parallels between him and my ex – so yeah I am biassed xx

    3. Viol. says:

      There’s footage of him feeding a baby bat. Unlike ‘Arry’s Wife, he looks more at the bat than at the camera. Could be he’s just a better actor, but he does look convincingly nurturing.

  9. Wendy says:

    Bravo! 👏👏 Brilliant analysis HG!

    Just in case anyone wants one they are now selling various Johnny Depp T-shirts including Captain Jack Sparrow holding a mega-pint of wine from the The Hearsay Brewing company with the logo “Isn’t happy hour anytime?” 😂😂

  10. Asp Emp says:

    Johnny did so much for people, charitable work, donations. The fact he responded and carried out a request to speak some lines of a production that Ed Norton did not do (who, it looks like, left it until the last minute to “respond”). Johnny responding to this request within 5 minutes does not indicate a narcissist’s response. If Johnny is a narcissist, he would have made some ‘unreasonable’ expectations ie asserted his control by suggesting, yes, or no but responding at a later date; he would not have necessarily been so quick with the task on hand (it took him 5 to 10 minutes to do the task).

    No, I am absolutely sticking with my original decision, Johnny Depp is an empath.

    Not once, have I seen any evidence of blame-shifting; deflection; plausible deniability; the cold stare; all sorts of narcissistic behaviours.

    What I have observed, is, that he does not do any eye contact with AH when she is in the witness stand. That, alone, tells me what I already know as an ACON who has Aspergers. In the past via instinctual reflect, I unconsciously avoided eye contact: a) when I was hurt / upset by someone who was abusing me; b) when I am talking about myself as an individual; c) when I am discussing a topic that I need to maintain my concentration on. I also have an idiosyncratic sense of humour. I suspect Johnny does too as I have observed him ‘responding’ at things being said in the court proceedings that may have appeared as “inappropriately” laughing / giggling.

    I suspect that Johnny is avoiding the eye contact with AH deliberately, maybe he is aware of what she is but would not shout it out because, as HG says, an aware narcissist will not admit to being a narcissist because they cannot and will not see it. I suspect Johnny is aware, ie, has probably ‘clued’ himself up on narcissism.

    I would like to add another thing here, the fact that his marriage to AH was pretty short because he got to the point of ‘I am not putting up with this abuse any more’, whether it was more instinctual at that time, rather than cognitively. It does appear that AH is the one that “maintained” her facade and after she married Johnny, could not control him.

    Thank you, HG, for all your excellent hard work into these series. Much appreciated 🙂 xx

    1. Truthseeker6157 says:

      Asp,

      Me too. I’ve got to stick with empath. I have considered Greater Narcissist too though. I have to rule out Greater on the basis of JD explaining himself. The recordings of him dealing with AH don’t sound like a Greater at all. JD was telling her he was going to leave the house, then he was going to come back and they could talk again for example. A narcissist, particularly a Greater would just leave. He wouldn’t ask to leave. If faking leaving as a threat, he wouldn’t then leave! He explains himself far too much. If he was a Greater, it’s unlikely he would choose AH in the first place. It’s empaths that explain themselves because they safeguard the feelings of the other person before doing something. Narcissists don’t safeguard and normals wouldn’t think to safeguard in the first place, so he’s an empath.

      He’s certainly no angel. He has his dark side thanks to numerous high narcissistic traits. I think he has been surrounded by narcissists throughout his personal and professional life. He is repeatedly in hunting grounds and on top of things AH is correct, he will have been surrounded by yes men telling him he is God’s gift and pandering to his every whim. Even an empath would act out in that environment. His main problem is that he has no one to trust. Everyone has some skin in the game.

      The ADHD was interesting and does look very feasible as an added complication to his susceptibility to drug and alcohol abuse which has further eroded his empathy.

      He tries to leave, tries to withdraw, desperately needs to be alone at times to decompress. Honestly, if someone followed me like AH followed him, shouting and creating I’d feel like a caged animal. Keep me confined and I’m coming out fighting, absolutely no doubt about it. He just couldn’t get away from her, that would drive him near enough insane.

      He didn’t hit her, I’m convinced of that. I think he has restrained her, barged past her, shoved her out of the way to get past her, broken things in sheer frustration, but he hasn’t hit her, not in my opinion. I think he has responded in kind to her verbal abuse of him and has suffered serious empathy erosion for an extended period of time.

      Super Empath, Strong CoD minority Element, strong Contagion minority element. Magnet cadre with a strong Saviour minority element, possibly a Martyr minority element.

      That’s my guess, final answer Chris.

      1. Asp Emp says:

        TS, thank you for your thoughts. Now we know what JD is 🙂

        I’d suggest that since he was ‘diagnosed’ with ADHD, that would be the first / primary neurological pathway that exists. The ACON would be the secondary ‘psychological’ pathway. The third ‘afflict’ (psychological pathway) would be his substance abuse.

        That is how I would suggest it to be.

        The substance abuse would exacerbate his ADHD thoughts and emotions regardless of an empath, or a narcissist ‘victim’. That would become enmeshed with the ET / LT of a victim of narcissistic abuse.

        It was still a revelation to learn that JD is narcissistic 🙂

    2. Hi Asp,

      I am sure you are right.

      I think I may be reading too much into things. My ex did a lot of charity work. I think to myself = while he was giving out money to the homeless – was he expected to be somewhere important. How can one get angry at such a sweet gesture? My ex would have been seen as a great guy when he gave a car to someone who needed one at work – one he had said was mine a day before and did not discuss it with me – or even say sorry.

      I just cannot see an empath sending such horrid texts about someone close. I know I could never – but am I going on my own experiences? Also – he brought others into the arguments – if he needed privacy = why? He brought attention to himself due to his addictions : on set – giving an award etc – than said he needed to self medicate because of the attention.

      I think all his relationships – or the majority have lasted around 3 years – when he quickly moved onto the next. Almost like he had one lined up before leaving the current.

      I know I am likely influenced by personal experience and far from impartial – it is clouding my thinking I think xx

      1. Asp Emp says:

        PAWA, what you say about your ex and the car, it reminded me of occasions when muvver did something similar towards me, taking from me and giving it to my sister.

        My relationships prior to the last two ensnarements laster around a year because of my trust issues. The last 2 relationships were narcissists, hence why they were longer because of the manipulations they used. Interestingly, the ‘break’ in between them were around 1.5 to 3 years!

        RE: your last sentence, I think there are others who have a similar mindset because of the possibility of an additional neurodiversity.

        Thank you for sharing your thoughts 🙂

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