Knowing the Narcissist : Cheating on the Narcissist

 

CHEATING-ON-THE-NARCISSIST

I know, I know, who would do such a thing, but it does happen. Not often, but it does. How do we react to this in case it was something that you were considering doing?

To begin with, it is worthwhile explaining however just how rare it is to find that our victims are willing to cheat on us. There are several reasons for this:-

  1. During the seduction period there is absolutely no reason to do so. This is exciting, wonderful, love at its finest (apparently) and because of this golden period, cheating on this amazing person who has come into your life would be like cutting off your right arm. Pointless.
  2. The empathic traits of honesty and decency mean that cheating is anathema to the victim.
  3. The empathic traits of being a love devotee and someone who believes in fixing and healing means that the victim would rather address the problems (in the mistaken belief that they can be cured)  with the narcissist that go elsewhere.
  4. The desire to return to the golden period means that the victim does not want to do anything whereby they will lose our kind. Instead, they want to cling on in the hope of matters improving.
  5. Many empathic individuals subscribe to the concept of two wrongs not making a right.
  6. Being a truth seeker, the empathic victim finds themself unable to contemplate behaving in a deceitful manner through cheating.

These factors all militate against the victim cheating on the narcissist. Nevertheless, if on the rare occasions it does happen, what is the reaction of each school of narcissist?

As you should have anticipated, the revelation of your being unfaithful to us is a massive criticism. This tells us in no uncertain terms, that you regard somebody as superior to us. You are our primary source. You belong to us. Yes, we, through our sense of entitlement and lack of accountability will do as we please, but you cannot. We are hugely hypocritical as we commit numerous acts of infidelity, but you must not. Any external observer, though reluctant to sanction such a transgression, would undoubtedly understand why the victim has done so given the onslaught of abuse perpetrated by our kind. That is no excuse or reason in our eyes.

A normal person would be upset and would most likely have cause to wonder why the other person has behaved in such a manner. Leaving aside instances where a person is dealing with a narcissist who is unfaithful, ordinarily the cuckolded individual will wonder why this has happened? Is there something deficient in the relationship? Does something need to be addressed and resolved?

Not us.

You should be kneeling before us on a daily basis and giving thanks for being chosen by us to be our primary source. For you to be unfaithful and cheat on us creates a huge wound. We are made to feel worthless, inferior and desperate. You have acted against us, you have operated beyond our control and you have criticised us. All of the matters which are of prime concern to us – status, omnipotence, power and control – have been eroded by your behaviour. You are a traitor. A base and venal traitor who has been corrupted by some outside and interfering agent. You have thrown everything we have done back in our faces (as we of course conveniently forget everything that we have done to you) and we hate you.

Such an act is one which ignites our fury as we now desperately require fuel to heal the huge wound that you have caused. This is no minor abrasion. This is a savage and deep strike which threatens to topple us.

The Lesser will respond in a furious display of his ignited fury. You will be physically attacked and beaten. You will be forced to identify who the other party is and as the Lesser of our kind drinks in the fuel from your tears and terror, it will not be enough. He will seek out the other party and assault them as well. Property will be destroyed, windows put through, car tyres slashed, rooms wrecked as the Lesser spirals out of control. He becomes a frenzied whirlwind which will kick out at anybody and everybody around him, but most of all you. Cheating on a Lesser carries with is a considerable risk of serious physical injury, even death as he loses control in an instant and cannot regain it. The extent of the wounding is so substantial that the fuel demand rockets. You can expect to be beaten unconscious and for the Lesser to wait until you have regained consciousness to assault you again. This brutality will be sustained and wide-ranging. It is only when fuel has been obtained from you and others that the Lesser’s inferno like rage will abate. He will then depart and seek out an intimate partner tertiary source (such as a prostitute) or an intimate partner secondary source (an ongoing prospect or find one) as he continues his punishment of you by having sex with somebody else. He will return and if you have not made good your escape by this point he will use your infidelity as a repeated stick (both figuratively and literally) to beat you with on a repeated basis thereafter, since each time he looks on you he will be reminded of your infidelity.

The Mid-Ranger will also lose control on learning of your infidelity. Whereas the Lesser will adopt an all-out assault, the Mid-Range will alternate between attacking you and wanting you feel guilty. He will want to talk the matter through as he struggles to comprehend how someone could this to him after everything that he has done. He will keep you up all night as he takes an almost masochistic delight in cross-examining you about every detail of what has happened. He will want to know who, what he does, where you met, how many times, whether the sex was good or not, did you use protection, why did you do it, why he is not good enough. The questions will be like machine gun fire, spat at you as he forces you to explain yourself. He will weep and then slap you. He will provide you with a litany of his good points (rejecting any suggestion of his failings being a catalyst for what you have done) and then spit at you. He will tell you that you should leave but he will not do it because he wants you to suffer. He wants you to look on his apparently heart-broken face and feel guilt and boy does he know that you do guilt. He wants to relish in your discomfort, your heart felt remorse as he gains fuel from your upset, your sympathy and your apologies.

Ever the attention-seeker from the crowd you can expect the Mid-Ranger to call your parents, your friends, your colleagues and anybody else he can think of to tell them about what you have done. He will stand on the telephone as he declares how hard hit is he by your awful behaviour and you will listen. He will organise a crisis committee and ensure several people immediately come to the house as you are put on trial again. He will relish in receiving the sympathy of others and the downcast looks as shame washes over you. No matter how justified you might have felt at seeking the attentions of another, the Mid-Ranger will keep at you until you break and sobbing wail your sorrow.

The Mid-Ranger will use this as evidence of you being a sex addict, that there is something wrong with you and insist that you attend a doctor of go to therapy to address this. He will not cast you aside as he wants you to do penance for your crime. He won’t confront the person you were unfaithful with, he is too much of a coward to do so but will rather ensure that your infidelity is used as a method of control. Thus, if you slept with a neighbour, you have to move house. If it is a friend, you see him no more and none of the associated social circle. You are placed on a curfew, not being allowed to go out for months on end in a social sense. If a colleague, you must move jobs. The Mid-Ranger will want you to work at repairing the marriage or relationship but he will not address his faults. Not at all. It will be all about making you improve.

The Greater is likely to know about your infidelity before you admit it. His extensive desire to control and his reliance on monitoring your movements through technology and his network of spying lieutenants means he will compile a dossier of information. In such an instance, where the Greater, aided by his own sense of paranoia, has suspicions, he will be able to keep his control in check and we shall return in a moment to how he responds when he has gotten wind of your cheating.

If he has not realised and you confess then the Greater will not be able to control his ignited fury either. He will erupt and it is in this instance that the Greater is likely to use physical or sexual violence against his primary source. His pain from the criticism is substantial but what actually tips him over the edge is the fact that he had not realised and he ought to have done so. His sense of being all-knowing and all-powerful is mortally wounded by your behaviour and this is just as bad as the fact that you have sought solace in the arms of the other. His usual substantial control will be lost and his malicious fury will be vented against you. You are likely to be attacked and then ejected from the property. All attempts to mollify him, to apologise, to try and make things right will be rejected. He will need a fierce burst of fuel from this one explosion and once it has been received he will assert his control again. From that point he does not need fuel from you. Indeed, you are no persona non grata. He will discard you and turn to another, embedding the prospective primary source as quick as possible in a show of defiance but it will not end there. You will be subjected to malign hoovers as he punishes you. He does not want you. You are soiled goods, tarnished, but he will not let you forget what you did and thus you will be smeared and subjected to a vicious campaign of malign hoovers.

If the Greater has worked out what you are up to, his delight at gathering this information (and thus reinforcing his cunning, guile and superiority) means that he can maintain control. Instead he will plot and plan. He will be quietly smearing you behind the scenes. He will be scheming to unveil your infidelity and to shame you. It is likely that he will use your birthday, an anniversary or an impromptu get together with friends and family so that he can have a grand audience for your execution. He will strike when you least expect it and the evidence that he has acquired (and he will go to considerable lengths to obtain it) will be unveiled on the big screen to all assembled. Thus, hidden video footage of you giving a blow job to your paramour in the house you shared with the narcissist will be shown. A slide show of the texts you pinged back and forth will be compiled after your ‘phone was breached. A recording of your conversations will be replayed (and suitably edited to make you sound even worse) to all of those who are gathered.

As the tears of shame trickle down your face, the Greater will revel in your downfall and the shocked and disgusted reactions of all around you. He will cement the façade and have you cast as the whore, the scarlet woman and the ungrateful bitch. Try pinning the blame on the Greater when your family and friends have witnessed two minutes of you being pounded by the neighbour on the marital bed. You have no chance.

Following this shaming, you will be discarded, a new primary source already primed and waiting in the wings and then the malign hoover campaign will begin, aided and abetted by our coterie, our Lieutenants and the now converted and disgusted third parties. You receive the equivalent of being tarred and feathered.

11 thoughts on “Knowing the Narcissist : Cheating on the Narcissist

  1. Asp Emp says:

    FFS that Lesser accused me of such when I’d refused to let him in, my house following an argument earlier in the day. Another time was my talking to another guy because I was pissed off with fucken Lesser. MRN didn’t accuse me of such, because he was the one doing it anyway and he probably knew I’d throw that back in his face! I’m a good girl, never cheated 🙂

    1. A Victor says:

      I’m a dirty empath, bad girl. Had to sort through a lot of shit over that personally too. Happy for you though!

      1. Leigh says:

        AV, Ugh! I’m a dirty empath too. I didn’t always make the best choices either. I don’t think that makes us bad, maybe just a little misguided. I know for me, I used infidelity as a way to get justice. Is that wrong? Absolutely. Was it bad? I don’t think those things are necessarily that black and white. I think we made errors in judgement. That doesn’t necessarily make us bad. In my opinion, I don’t think you’re bad at all. You don’t judge and in my book, that makes you good.

        1. A Victor says:

          Thanks Leigh, I have felt bad in my life over that choice. I stayed with my second husband far longer than I believe I would’ve been otherwise because of that. My comment here was intended to indicate that we are not defined by a decision such as that unless we allow ourselves to be. I do not. I have sorted through the shit and moved on. I hope all empaths who have made similar choices are able to do the same and not made to feel they are inherently bad for those choices.

          1. Leigh says:

            I agree 100%, AV.

          2. Asp Emp says:

            AV, the fact that you stayed with your second for far longer says a lot about you as a person. I never cheated simply because, a) parental narcissist had relationship with another man around 6 months after my father died, b) I was cheated on around 20 years old – so I learned by experience – both of those experiences was ‘enough’.

            Having said that, it does not mean I judge others for seeking ‘solace’ outside their marriage. I ‘lost’ my security, stability & ‘regularity’ at 9 years old. It has nothing to do with validation (for me anyway).

            In your case, you had someone by your “side” since your 20s and you felt ‘lost’ after your marriage ended, followed by your father going.

            There is a big difference in cases, our reasons for being who we are today. The main difference at present is, I am free of narcissists in my life, I have no one ‘relying’ on me, I’ve not had support around me in my real life when in fact, I’ve had a very difficult time in recent months and not gone into detail, nor, talked about it, despite needing the support. I’ve worn a ‘mask’ and kept it hidden because a) I had no idea what was really happening, and, b) no-one, apart from HG had an idea, and has been ‘there’ by distance. No-one else had been able to “read” between the lines and reach out to me. As everyone knows, I do not have that support network locally, nor family and the local “friends” turned out to be, guess what?!

            Now, that I have had my results, in more than one “area” of concern, I can, now, move forward. I plan to execute with what I had planned to do and the fact that I have nobody to stop me is a real privilege. No-one should judge me for that in itself.

            However, I have seen otherwise. I do not dwell on it. There are more important things in life, as you will know, because of your grandchild. It changes ‘angles’ of life. There’s a new ‘focus’, not quite the same, yet, different from where you may have ‘viewed’ a year ago, two years ago. Do not let it stop you from achieving what you aimed for when you first came here.

            Stay on the path, AV x

          3. AspEmp, I noticed you had been quiet lately and I’m sorry that due to a lack of awareness of difficulties you might have been experiencing no one reached out to you. Like AV, I’ve had new family committments that have taken up a big chunk of my time, but I did miss your interactions and the generally supportive and light hearted spirit you bring to the blog. I’m glad HG was able to give you some of the support you needed and hope that the outcome you have decided upon will give you some relief. Being separated from my own family of origin, I understand what an element of the lack of that can mean, especially when you are going through a hard time. Those must be the times when you wish your father was still around as a reliable support. Discovering more narcissists around you at the same time would deal an even greater blow. I want to assure you I noticed your absence, and wish now I had followed up on it, not just assuming you were busy, too. I hope you are doing OK and that the path going forward will be easier for you xox

          4. Asp Emp says:

            Hi LET, so sorry that I had not seen this until now.

            As I’ve said previously, no-one knew details of what had been happening ‘behind the scenes’ so to speak, caused by a lack of focus by the medical professional who should have been paying more attention to the symptoms I was experiencing which led to further ‘negligence’ and more medications being issued (contributing & compounding to the overall issue). Over 8 years. For the last 2.5 years my health was being monitored – it was difficult as I had to put my life on hold because of this. It was only a few days ago, I as informed that the ‘dark cloud’ is no longer being monitored, meaning, it is no longer a major concern. That is one big ‘mask’ to wear and bear. It is one of those things that my very close friends (I’d told a couple) did not know how to answer, I need to inform them of that and lift their concerns too. I’m still in a bit of a shock at present (as I was back 2.5 years ago!). It is (in my view) not a subject that I’d go all and sundry about ie go public about it.

            Having said that, it was still good to put myself through HG’s work as it highly contributed to my character building, otherwise, if it had not been for HG’s work, I do not think I would be as strong as I have had to be, or, where I am today.

            Thank you, for your acknowledgement (understanding & compassion) towards me, it means so much. You have always been such a support and I appreciate that, greatly. I trust that you are well? I am pleased for you, that you have the new family commitments, that would, no doubt, be a very welcome ‘intervention’ in your life. Thank you so much, LET. xx 🙂

        2. Asp Emp says:

          Leigh, you judge others yet fail to actually self-reflect in an honest way. Don’t ever judge me, ever again, directly, or indirectly. What you tend to do is to drag others into what your real problem is, failure to really look at yourself. I understand why you do not like me. I stood up for myself, to you and I refused to back down. You are too judging. In your professional life, you are a Human Resources Manager?! In my view, one hell of a crap one, because, you only “see” your view and pretend to ‘see’ other’s views.

          You refused me to have my own views, my own voice, my own mind. That is my “issue” I had with you.

          I’ve kept quiet, until now. You basically accused me of being a narcissist without actually apologising for such accusations. You’ve apologised to some others, not all those that actually deserve one from you!

          You’ve “allowed” a couple of people to state what they had to say but not others.

          Like I said, don’t ever judge me, ever again. Directly, or, indirectly. If you do, I will call you out on it, there and then. End of.

          1. annaamel says:

            Asp Emp, this post goes beyond assertiveness. It is aggression.

            I looked for the discussion where Leigh implied you were a narcissist and found this:

            https://narcsite.com/2022/02/09/down-17/

            The conversation shows you feeling frustrated and defensive and accusing Leigh of invalidating you. She eventually voices her own frustration at your accusations and suggestions that she’s been gaslighting you. She identifies aspects of your behaviour and says ‘who is gaslighting who’. She adds further behaviours that are narcissistic manipulations and she’s correct. You were using them.

            I see you as having very a strong pride trait. Not only does It drive you to defend yourself – but it leads you to feeling slighted more easily. If someone has very strong pride, any time they feel insulted, disrespected or devalued, their pride will push them to act because it’s been damaged. They must restore that damaged pride.

            I’d say this is how many of our narcissistic traits work. I’m certain a number of empaths on the blog have pride as a significant trait because I’ve seen the evidence of it.

            I believe it’s pride which has caused you to react to Leigh this way now as well. Leigh is also affected by her pride – I’ve seen it in her responses as well. I suspect abuse experienced as a child is very damaging to healthy pride and in its place a slightly less healthy, but very strong version takes its place.

            I hope you can consider whether your pride might be affecting your responses and whether you might feel small damages to it as uncomfortably painful. This would be very understandable. I hope, too, that both you and Leigh can work through this. You are probably more similar to each other than you might currently recognise.

          2. Asp Emp says:

            annaamel, thank you for your views. I have just seen this. Interesting to read what you have to suggest. From my perception, my position, (and this applies to anyone), since finding HG’s work, I came to realise how much ‘brain-washing’ I had experienced prior to my learning here, and the abuse as a child brings me to a stance of ‘not going back there’ (ie it’s my mind, my emotions, my life – no-one’s elses). All my life I had to ‘defend’ myself. Some of my “beliefs” back then(chidhood) have changed since finding HG’s work because of the many corrupted traits. I appreciate what you said and thank you for your time in doing so. Now, I’m going to reply to LET’s comment that I had also missed previously.

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