Knowing the Narcissist : Revenge
You will never secure revenge over a narcissist unless you understand how the narcissist thinks and behaves.
You will never secure revenge over a narcissist when you are blinded by emotional thinking.
When victims believe they have obtained revenge, they will invariably have fallen onto The Devil´s Pitchfork and failed. Avoid that fate, by reading the work of the expert.
Revenge is a dish best served by HG Tudor.
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Oh HG:
I laughed so hard. You married your stalker! Is that true? my guess is you are throwing shade.
But moreover, you confirmed my suggestion that with your blog, fame, style, looks, wealth and status, as a celebrity particularly in this field, you are at risk. But I think it would genuinely help others if you revealed your response. I know it didn’t bother you, but what did you do? Ie block, not respond, threaten legal action, say something that is noteworthy?
Of course you already engage in privacy protection to the T. Others won’t be so lucky…but if I experienced stalking, I would look to you as to how to handle it. So if you can shed some light that would be great. Baby reindeer demonstrated how ineffective the legal system can be and this is true even in LA. I recall meeting Ms. from Criminal Minds ( Penelope Garcia) at a trial I attended and her ex was stalking her and my friends father who is also a dear friend represented her ( a celebrity lawyer) and she was so frustrated with the legal system as her ex found ways around the injunctions and was intense in his pursuit. It is really mentally damaging as described by her.
I know consults with you would help but any revelations that you could share that shut it down? It might be unique;)
Mr. Tudor–
1. In “The Three Types of Revenge” video today you said that the narcissist is likely to cease displaying character traits that were acquired from the painted black appliance, is there any story that shows this in action? What types of acquired traits usually suffer this fate?
2. Do you have any clients who’ve sought revenge, beyond the no contact version?
3. Have you had a client/clients go for the option that involves you taking the reigns and being the puppeteer to attain their revenge?
4. For those who have gone for the assassin’s revenge, have they been able to manage it alone or have they checked in with you to know that they are doing well?
Thank you so much for your time. Much appreciated.
1. There is nothing specific on this point.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.
4. Checked in.
Thank you so much for answering.
1. What are the commonalities amongst your clients who sought revenge (beyond no contact), if there are any? Were they empaths, narcissistic people, normals? Were they dealing with similar types of narcissists?
You personally:
2. What is the relative frequency at which you want revenge?
3. From which schools have you in any of your identities taken down narcissists?
4. What are similarities amongst people who earn jam today?
5. What are similarities amongst the individuals who earn the assassin’s revenge?
6. When you seek revenge, is this a conscious or instinctive decision?
Thank you so much for your time. Much appreciated.
1. Some were empaths, some were narcissistic, many were unaware narcissists.
2. Rarely, I get my retaliation in first.
3. I do not have this information.
4. I do not have this information.
5. They apply what I tell them re emotional thinking.
6. Conscious.
Thank you so much for answering!
1. Have you ever stopped seeking revenge once you started?
2. How effective is no contact with a greater or the Ultra if they are set on revenge?
3. How has your ability to plan revenge changed over the course of your teen/adult life? More effective, more elaborate…
Re: “I get my retaliation in first.”
4. When retaliating, which of the prime aims is your greatest focus?
5. What are the typical goals, if there are typical ones? Fuel, making them retreat, listening to them acknowledge they were wrong to oppose you, etc?
6. What happens to you personally when someone retreats from you in the midst of your retaliation?
7. Is the level of retaliation related more to the position of the appliance in your fuel matrix or the level of infraction?
Thank you so much for your time. Much appreciated.
1. Yes.
2. It is better than maintaining contact, but it is not a failsafe.
3. My reach has extended as has my knowledge.
4. Control.
5. Their defeat.
6. I am amused yet mildly disappointed.
7. Both are relevant.
Thank you so much for answering!
1. What prompted the cessation of hostilities on your part?
2. Do greaters or the Ultra hunt down victims with ease when they try to implement no contact but the greater/Ultra is intent on revenge?
3. For you, personally, is there a pleasure in getting revenge if the other person doesn’t know you’re driving it or do you want them to know (at the end) that you caused their fall (full-horror)?
4. What effect does repeated wounding from a victim have on the continuation or cessation of hostility from the narcissist?
5. Does your psychopathy give you any edge in dealing with wounding in process or bouncing back from it?
Control is the prime aim that most causes the revenge seeking. You have three ways of asserting control. 1. Directly (which is what I would interpret the revenge to be. 2. Indirectly (telling others what a crappy person the victim is) 3. Withdraw and consign them to oblivion.
6. What drives your compulsion to assert control directly when there are other options available?
Dani: Is the level of retaliation related more to the position of the appliance in your fuel matrix or the level of infraction.
HG: Both are relevant.
7. What are the other relevant factors, if any?
Thank you so much for your time. I greatly appreciate it.
1. In relation to what?
2. If the Greater/Ultra deems it necessary to hunt down a victim then it will happen.
3. My knowledge is sufficient. It is not necessary that they always know it is me (although they usually do, because, after all, who else would it be?)
4. See Understand Wounding.
5. Yes.
6. Control is everything.
Mr. Tudor–
Have clients of yours who seek revenge and are unaware narcissists often taken the EDC or NDC?
Thank you so much for your time! Much appreciated!
Usually the NDC.
Thank you, sir. Much appreciation.
Hi HG:
I am highly enjoying your Baby Reindeer analysis and I wondered…
1. Have you ever been stalked?
2. Can you tell immediately the potential of someone being a stalker of you?
3. How?
4. What did you do?
I would imagine you are at risk due to your fame, good looks, education, wealth and the subject matter you cover. Even if not stalked as HG, my guess is you have been in private life.
1. Yes.
2. Not immediately.
3. N/A
4. Married her as reward for her devotion.
No, I ignored her. A freaky obsessed female is hardly going to bother me.
Thank you so much for answering, sir!
Regarding your psychopathy giving you an edge in combatting and dealing with wounding…it would be interesting to have a story about that.
HG: In relation to what?
Dani: 1. Have you ever stopped seeking revenge once you started?
HG: 1. Yes.
1. What else was happening that prompted you to cease?
2. Is it more likely something positive or negative for you?
Assuming that you’re seeking revenge against a business rival…
3. What impact would an IPPS entering the sustained devaluation have on a revenge business situation vs what impact would a candidate IPPS falling perfectly under control have if you wanted revenge on a traitorous, soon-to-be former IPPS?
4. In terms of a business revenge situation…Have you ever been interrupted for a substantial amount of time and resumed where you left off?
5. What well known historical examples of a greater narcissist beginning a campaign based on revenge and stopping before the completion of it (while they remained alive) do you know?
Thank you so much for your time! Much appreciated.