Prayer For The Victim
“I will pray for you because I know that you seek redemption at my loving hand. It is understandable. You are a lost soul. I know, hush, you need not speak for restoration hangs from my lips. Listen and allow my words to grant you the salvation that you are so desperate for. I know what you are. I know because I am everywhere, I am everyone and I am everything.
I understand what has happened to you. I know how you have been let down. I know how disappointment followed you like an unshakeable shadow, no matter how you applied yourself. Oh I know beneath the sin you are a good person. Your acts and your words are like beams of white light that have punctured through the dark firmament that has wrapped itself around you, cloaking you in the venom that was placed over you so long ago. Others think that they know you, but they do not.
They think that this person who moves through life, never seeking to offend or hurt, never wanting to wound or injure, a person who wishes to bring calm, bring healing and bring solace to this world, they think that this person becomes weighed down by the misery, the chaos and the injustice which rises like some ever encroaching tide. They think that it is this which causes those pure tears to trickle down that unblemished skin.
They think that it is all of those things which coil like rusty chains about you, dragging you down, hauling you into the quagmire of human misery and dejection. They are mistaken. You can readily with those outrageous slings and arrows. You are made of stern stuff. The insults only spur you on to succeed. The recalcitrance is but a signal to you to keep trying. The rejections just symptomatic of those you wish to help not understanding their own pain.
Yes, it is trying, but you are able to rise above all of this. The woes of this world are not designed to weigh heavy on one such as you. I know this. The others do not. I understand that you were sent to bring light and love to the unloved, the broken, the hurt and the despairing.
No matter how poisonous the world you will breathe your purity out, ever giving and ever resourceful until you have pushed aside those toxic clouds, dissipated the polluted fogs and brought restorative blue skies and dazzling sunshine. You are someone who is able to right the wrongs of this world. I recognise all of this.
I also know that it is not these external troubles which mean that I must pray for you. It is the burden that lies deep within you. Few know of it do they? Just you and perhaps him oh and them as well but they do not want to talk about it do they? They did not back then.
They did not listen and you must be heard, isn’t that right? I listen to you. The difference is though I actually hear you. I hear that silent tortured scream which emanates from you regularly. That howling wilderness that exists inside someone who appears to be so wholesome. The rest of them are too eager to avail themselves of your goodness so that they fail to notice the wounds which are riddled throughout you.
The weeping sores, the festering wounds all caused by him so long ago. None of them recognise these things but I do. I am trained to do so. I am attuned to scent your agony which you mask so well but it is that pain which acts like a siren’s call to me because I am the only one that can save you. Those fools that mill about you, all they wish to do is take from you and you allow that to happen because you regard that as your role. It is admirable in the extreme.
The extent of your serenity when they might sorely test you is quite the thing to behold. Yet, there is no solace for you is there? Where is your tranquillity, your place of sanctuary? That has always been denied to you has it not? Well, no longer, for I have been sent in order to redeem you. I am the bottomless receptacle into which you must pour yourself. Alleviate yourself of the leaden weight of despair and with such excellent proclamation, cast it into me. I shall absorb it all.
Everything that has plagued you, pained you and seared through you with terrible agony can now be poured into me. I am your saviour. All I ask is that you allow your every emotion to be exhibited and exposed and in return I will be the one that finally cures you of those entrenched woes. Nobody understands what you have endured, but I do. I did not see what happened to you but I know what happened to you. It is etched across you, in the way you smile, the way you move, the way you love.
Only I can recognise this and in turn that is why it is only me that can be your salvation. Nobody else can achieve that for you. You do not even know it but that is why you are drawn to me in this manner, with such intensity. You think that you know what I am. You do not. You will come to think that you must repair me and make me good once again. But it is you that must be mended.
There is something very wrong with you, something that happened so long ago that often you forget what it is, but it will not forget you. I am the redeemer. I am your salvation.
Kneel before me and with my anointed hand, let me place it on your wretched head and in so doing I shall cleanse you. You have found me now and you shall never be parted from me, for now it is only I that can save you.”
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Contagious, spot the difference.
Contagious: “A true belief may help, mine did.”
Beth: “There is only one Saviour, and His name is Jesus Christ.”
Also Beth: “Control seeks to dominate and keep a person bound.”
Also Beth: “God’s truth does the opposite, it brings freedom.”
Contagious, you speak of what helped you, and from your other posts it is clear that you do not impose your faith onto others. You respect other people’s beliefs, whether faith or atheism. You do not impose.
Beth, on the other hand, contradicts herself in almost every line. She speaks of freedom, yet introduces the dictate of one God and one saviour. She speaks of freedom, yet requires the surrender of one’s will to that same singular authority.
That is not freedom. It is the opposite.
And you, as a lawyer, do not seem to see it, because your emotional thinking sits separately from your logic. The moment you see “Jesus” or “Christianity”, everything else falls away, and you stop examining what is actually being said.
NarcAngel pointed at that contradiction, which neither Beth nor you, nor anyone operating from fanaticism or emotional thinking, seem able to see.
No one is hating Jesus Christ or making false allegations. Yet you present it in that immature way, which only shows that you are not differentiating, not properly reading, and not logically assessing what is actually being said by Beth and NA.
But understand this for the millionth time: Jesus did not stand beside those who later compiled the Bible, nor did he dictate what should be included, excluded, or how it should be interpreted. What exists is interpretation, shaped by third parties, telling others what to believe in, who to follow and how to do so.
Also, Beth explains that her surrender is born from love, peace, and truth, not coercion. So how is it that she then positions herself on a “peaceful mission” to bring others into surrender to the one authority she has decided is the only path and saviour?
Does that not raise any questions?
It does not, I suppose, for someone operating within a martyr framework, where the illusion of martyrdom overrides the ability to recognise contradiction.
Good points Jordy:
No, those who followed Jesus wrote the New Testament. I am guilty of losing logic when it comes to Jesus, my Achilles heel perhaps. I was asking NarcAngel a question but perhaps I should have asked is she against Christianity. Some are. I feel Jesus never pushed his Word. He lived by example and tried to educate them, the teacher. I try to walk in his path but of course I fall short, get up and pray for redemption and try again.
But I am a martyr and carrier. I gladly accept being a martyr if related to Christ and his teachings and I have always believed it’s related to my Christianity. It starts with what would Christ do? You never hear in the Bible of Christ healing and helping the poor who is violent or a substance abuser…. I have tried and failed. Perhaps Christ healed it all. I have no ability. I have taken several people in my life who fell on hard times and they moved on to better lives and were embarrassing so grateful. You just don’t know. I have had clients that I have helped that I felt great about and others… no… doing my job. I guess in the end I try to live by my Faith. I try. That does not mean I am successful. With my exes, I did not know.i wasn’t educated. But Jesus is my strength and got me through. I am never alone. Never. Faith is a strength for people in this life if you chose it. That I believe from personal experience. Jesus turned his back on no one, he said “come to me.”
Contagious, hi love,
Jesus was my first crush and a standard I set for myself early on, so I understand what you are saying, the connection you have, and why it impacts you and guides you. I immersed myself in his teachings for a while. He was a wise man, or those who recorded and interpreted him were wise, who knows who said what in the end.
Ultimately, you can only measure anything against your own inner sense of what is true. Jesus spoke about that as well. “The kingdom of God is within you.”
Walking in Jesus’ footsteps is quite a perfectionist pursuit. It is a heavy standard to hold yourself to.
At the same time, his teachings were rather simple. For you as someone with emotional empathy, much of it feels intuitive. Perhaps his words were aimed more at those who needed things explained in a more structured, cognitive way.
“I try to walk in his path but of course I fall short, get up and pray for redemption and try again.”
If it begins with asking what Christ would do, then remember that he was also a forgiver. Following that path would include forgiving yourself for not being perfect, whatever that idea of perfection even is.
The martyr strives to be perfect, to give endlessly, to please beyond what is possible. But no one is born with a mission to fulfil the needs of everyone. That idea in itself becomes distorted, almost like trying to become a perfect instrument for impossible expectations.
Those who take Jesus as a standard can sometimes fall into two extremes: either a sense of grandiosity, or a deep sense of guilt for not being “enough”, leading them to attempt the impossible.
So do not be too hard on yourself. You already give a lot.
At some point, it becomes important to recognise where the middle lies. When it is enough, and when giving beyond that is no longer required.
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And yet, Beth, I identify you as accepting the same manipulations you point out in HG’s post. You merely applied a different perspective to help you accept immersion in religion as different than narcissist ensnarement. The result being the same – control. I understand that you likely won’t see that any more than the narcissist’s victims do while ensnared.
NarcAngel : you and HG. It is always a question. Why God allows good faithful people to suffer. Even when Jesus walked this Earth and performed miracles not to mention He gave his son to death ( who rose) to forgive us for our sins. Yet, pain and suffering remains HERE in this short time we walk the Earth. I am an absolute believer but it does not stop me from recognizing the value of HG ‘s work or the reality of pain and suffering on this Earth. Do I believe God could stop it? Yes. But so did the disciples in thinking they could protect Jesus. I have no answer yet I believe. This is a reality so basic that it is un-disputable. BUT I don’t see TRUE applications of what Christ taught: love, kindness, compassion, humbleness, sacrifice for others, forgiveness, giving to the poor, the sick, the meek, focusing on community and love versus money as in anyway equal to a narcarcisst’s pursuit for fuel. So I dispute your allegations to Beth, a devout Christian. I am not sure if you are attacking Christ through your comments but if so, you are ignorant of his fundamental teachings. HG is correct: narcs exist on this Earth. Their harm is real. A true belief may help, mine did, but God has not stepped in to stop inarc abuse any more than any pain and suffering we endure on Earth to date through time. So we are here to help each other through our own free will maybe some stemming from the teachings of Christ and for others maybe from their beliefs an easy hints I have great respect for all that love fellow men snd help make this planet but the important fact is we help each other. We help our brothers and sisters and I believe HG’s work does just that;)
If you hate Christ and want to discuss his existence or message Any-day and anytime. Ask HG if Christ was a narc. Sam said he was. I would love to debate the historical evidence to the contrary.
But perhaps Narc Angel your blog message did not say that….
Hi Contagious,
I don’t know about Christ being a narc, but I suspect God has a bit of the psychopath about him.
https://youtu.be/36Og-bWIB1g?si=WYpwrDEqsCxRT3Kv
(I’m going to have to blag my way in now!)
Jesus was the absolute opposite. And God spoke to 7 others directly in the Bible. Moses: 10 commandments. Not a bad way to live. Not once does God mention harm on people while on Earth when speaking direct to the 8 he spoke. Warnings of what I would call legal codes. But so much of the Bible is based on beliefs and writings a long time ago arising from a limited jewish sect. I don’t follow the bible. I follow Jesus and his teachings which in my belief … Jesus was a message who came from God. I like v his message, follow it and believe!
I thought Jesus played for Arsenal these days?
Here is an easy sentence to complete for you, HG: If Jesus plays for Arsenal and they are in second place, ….
…tears of disappointment will trickle down his face.
lol HG better hope not… number one religion in the world. Right now your team is TIED!
Hi Contagious,
My last comment was a little tongue in cheek but that clip does raise the age old question of God and human suffering. Plus, Mads is just perfect in that role!
I agree with you in principle. Many religions at their core teach about how to live a good life. You referenced the Ten Commandments. I don’t disagree that these on the whole are healthy guidelines to live by. From reading your comments I get the impression that it is the moral code advocated by religion that is most important to you as opposed to the actual man made institution that is the church itself.
I think often it is the institution that people reject. Myself included. I link it to control. Almost unattainable goals that set people up for failure. Do this and enter of kingdom of heaven. Do that and the powers that be will determine you as unworthy. To me, that signifies control. The setting of a standard with the promised gain of eternal life. Probably. Bear in mind though, one lie will keep you out. Unless.. unless.. unless.. It’s that part. The man made institution with its standards and control, God’s representatives on Earth, this is the part I reject.
I do have a faith of sorts, but it’s linked to my own moral code. My moral compass, internal, driven by me. In reality, you and I probably conduct ourselves similarly in our day to day lives. Our actions in the world are likely more important than any pronouncement of affiliation to one religion or another.
Crying is kind of mandatory for him. If he did not do it, they might take his passport away next time he travels to Brazil.
I understand your perspective, but for me this is not about religion, control, or blind acceptance. This is about relationship with God, knowing His Word, and living from a surrendered heart that is willing to hear truth even when it corrects, convicts, and transforms.
Control seeks to dominate and keep a person bound. God’s truth does the opposite, it brings freedom, healing, discernment, and peace. There is a clear difference between manipulation that ensnares and truth that sets a person free.
A surrendered heart is not the same as being controlled. It is a willing heart that chooses to listen, grow, and align with what is righteous. That kind of surrender is born from love and truth, not coercion.
Beth, I know you tend to speak in loops within your posts, repeating the same ideas, but the contradiction level here has gone through the roof when all of your comments are taken together. This kind of self-contained narrative is, in reality, one of the hardest to break through.
What you are describing aligns closely with what is known as Stockholm syndrome, a form of surrender that emerges under a different kind of pressure and conditioning.
You use familiar phrases of the “good doer” going from door to door trying to bring others to freedom through a single path, a single saviour. In doing so, you implicitly discourage people from relying on their own capacity.
What is missing, however, is anything concrete. You do not explain what it is that God or His word actually directs you to do, nor how it manifests in real, tangible outcomes. Instead, what comes through are platitudes blended with popularised psychology that is currently circulating.
Perhaps you could share what this actually looks like in your life. Not in generalities, not in abstractions, but in specific, lived examples.
Something real, rather than repeated serenades about surrender.
I love your support of Jesus!
P.S.: Observe how Beth may shift over time. She presents as a perfect breeding ground for a pattern.
There is a lot of “expert talk” about real love being basic and not needing to be earned, yet in the next breath love is tied to growth, and underneath it all there seems to be an attempt to earn something she is not fully aware of. Many of the phrases are drawn from popular psychology content circulating right now, rather than something grounded in lived experience. The contradictions hint at that.
There is also a strong fixation on one superior saviour, which suggests clear codependent tendencies. It will be interesting to observe how this develops over time, because people who speak in absolutes, especially around “good”, “truth”, “freedom”, “love”, and one singular path, can be very susceptible to influence.
When attention or pressure increases, those same individuals shift in ways that contradict what they initially claimed to stand for. The moment pressure or attention appears, they can turn and attach themselves to whatever authority reflects what they have been conditioned to respond to. Their own obsessive attention is then simply redirected from one imaginary friend (authority) onto another. That is why they are subconsciously or consciously chosen by manipulators.
It is a familiar pattern. And quite predictable.
I see what you mean dear Jordy but what about classic martyrs. They never changed and sometimes died for their fixed beliefs. For example Martin Luther King Jr., Socrates and you know who and many of his right hand men. They had um pressure. They are those I admire. Harriet Tubman, she lived but remained absolute despite the risks. I marvel at them. There are others in other cultures too, people who face unbearable pressures to change society. Don’t you agree? And it is never ever just about them.
*Fixation on one superior saviour suggests clear codependent tendencies, because the codependent carries a similar void to the narcissist. And the bigger the void, the stronger the need to fill it with something equally vast.
That “substance” is then sought either in a grandiose individual they attach to, or in a grand, all-encompassing idea of a superior saviour.
Narcissists gravitate towards absolute, divine authority. Codependents, lacking a stable sense of self, do the same. The void demands to be filled, so it will be filled, either through a living “supreme being” (a narcissist, psychopath, or someone grandiose, power), or through a supreme idea placed above everything, dictating meaning, life, and order.
It traces back to an unfulfilled need in childhood. When the superior adult did not provide stability, care, or attunement, that gap remains and is later projected into adult life.
The narcissist places their targets on a pedestal as the supreme candidate. The empath places the narcissist on that same pedestal. Or replaces it with the idea of God.
Real, embodied in a person, or imagined.
Hello Jordy:
Also Matthew 18, Jesus felt anyone of the little children who should cause his children to stumble should put a millstone around his neck and drown.
Interesting: Jesus does not say forgive those who harm little children. Interesting how protective he was of children? Again: is there a value or message said by Christ not the Bible but by Him, you disagree? Please tell me, I know of none. He didn’t get to everything and even his silences on topics are gold because he would have said… I think. Elon Musk is a cultural Christian. This is often espoused by scientists and atheists who don’t believe but like the values of Jesus. Love, compassion, community, protect the children, respect for women, respect for everyone no matter your race, religion, creed or sex, forgiveness, forgiveness of even your enemies ( hardest for me) Jesus said to the Romans torturing him “ “ Forgive them Father for they know not what they have done.” ( Hello? Very hard their was a journalist decades ago killed in South Africa and their parents forgave them… ummm wow), Jesus said it wasn’t money it was the soul… the meek should inherit the Earth, He healed lepers, disabled, mentally ill or outcasts of society not the top 1% or the rich, demonically possessed, he chose a “ prostitute to follow him as part of his inner circle. It is said she was the first to see his resurrection… a women? Those writers should be fired. If a lie, what a stupid thing to do have a prostitute female be the first witness to a resurrection and that…. !!! boom! It went 5000 in an instant and number one worldwide. Witnesses? Debunked say ye. Ummm. then he forgave the criminals by him on the cross, the thief. “ Repent.” Who isn’t welcome to “ Come.” Love, forgiveness, compassion.
My point is Christ ‘s message even if you want to believe or not believe in God, his values are the best. And the best for society. Agree? Other religions have a practice of peace… Buddhists? Yes. . I have a great book by a Buddhist Christian monk…. Others. But as Carly Simon sang , “ No one did it better…” That is my personal view and I have read on it, attended many Christian churches from 5 on, studied Buddhism, gone to lectures ( uma ‘s dad included, I met him. He is big on the differences in his faith and knowledgeable), I have close friends who are Muslim, Shinto, Jewish, Bah ai, atheist, deist, agnostic ( my brother), Hindu and Wiccan or pagan. All are filled with Light or they wouldn’t be my friend with different paths to the same place. My voice, my path is Christ. But all are compassionate, kind, empathetic, good people. The message I received from Jesus is to accept, love, help and forgive. But by extent “ Come to me.” I personally think he gives the message and the way to be … within the Light. So why others thump away on the Old Testament and views and myths… other than Gods direct words. There were 8. Moses and Jesus was the messenger. I don’t follow the Bible literally. I put it in context of the times. Sorry ! Not a proper religious Christian. Just someone who really listens to what Jesus himself SAID. I can’t find a group or religion who says Jesus Only. I would join.
But to me that was the Alpha and Omega. Him. His message. His word.
If you disagree with Christs teachings or his actions… let me know. Which one and why?
Let´s wind down the religious discussion, this is a blog about narcissism, not religion.
“His values are the best. And the best for society.”
If logic, critical thinking, and reason are underdeveloped, then even the best values in the world are useless, because one cannot clearly see what emotional thinking does to oneself and may twist those “best values” to serve what is claimed to be “the best” for society.
This post reveals how deception often comes wrapped in the language of rescue, understanding, and false redemption. This is exactly how many victims become ensnared without even realizing what they are being drawn into. The voice presented here imitates comfort, discernment, and even salvation, but it is a counterfeit of what belongs to God alone.
No human being is anyone’s savior. Redemption, healing, and restoration do not come from another person demanding surrender, dependence, or emotional submission. That belongs to God alone through Christ. The danger for the unaware victim is that this kind of voice speaks directly to old wounds, unmet needs, abandonment, and pain from the past. It identifies the wound and then places itself as the only source of relief. That is where the trap begins.
This is why spiritual discernment is so important. The enemy often moves through confusion, emotional vulnerability, and false comfort, especially when someone is carrying unresolved pain. What appears to be understanding can in reality be manipulation wrapped in spiritual language. The Holy Bible “For God is not a God of disorder but of peace” (1 Corinthians 14:33, NIV).
The true voice of God never enslaves, never demands that someone kneel before another human being, and never replaces Christ as redeemer.
For the victim who is unaware, this is exactly how trauma bonds and emotional dependency are formed. The person feels seen in their pain, but in reality their wound is being used as the doorway for control. The truth is that healing comes from bringing those wounds before God, not laying them at the feet of someone who seeks power over broken places.
There is only one Savior, and His name is Jesus Christ.
You better preach, Beth! Say it louder for the people in the back.
God is love, and TRUE love ‘does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails’ (1 Corinthians 13:6-8a, NIV).
Hallelujah and a thousand times Amen!
Guess nobody divorces then.
Amen. I agree Faith. This does not stop Narcs however. But prayer is always the best. God also gave us two hands. One to help ourselves. The other to help others;)
Perfect! And unlike Sam Vatnimwho lost many given Christianity is the largest religion in the world…. I have never heard HG attack Jesus, my Lord and Savior.