The Online Empathic Target

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You are an obvious target when you engage in on-line dating. Your profile acts as a beacon to us. We see certain phrases and descriptions which have us making a bee line for you. You may as well strap a neon sign to your head stating “Empath” because you are sending a clear and distinct signal to us and we will move in for the kill.

On-line dating websites are popular and growing. They have millions of members and billions of page views each day. There are plenty of people looking for love on the internet. Given the ease through which one can browse, select and interact with a prospective date, it is little wonder that online dating sites are extensively used. The ability to avoid having to plunge into a gene pool of who knows what in bars and clubs and other predictable pick-up joints means that firing up the laptop and tablet and settling back to see who is out there has become a major way of finding that other half. I have mentioned before that cyberspace is a major hunting ground for our kind. From apps to social media, through messaging to the dating websites, the speed and reach of technology is a huge boon to the narcissist in his search for victims. Dating websites are no exception. It is there that we can sift through the prospective victims, assessing the target and gauging whether an approach ought to be made to begin the additional fact finding about this individual and commence the seduction. Dating websites attract a good proportion of cranks, wind-up merchants, no-shows, time wasters, married people searching for some sexting and potentially more and these individuals often stand out a mile. The opening gambit of the pervert who is looking for some topless pictures of you is likely to be

“U r gawjuss, do you have nudes?”

Easy to pick that jerk out isn’t it? He won’t be one of us though. He is just an arsehole. The philanderer may well belong to our brethren but when he starts with,

“I am married but my wife and I haven’t had sex for 2 years so I am not really being unfaithful in looking for some action elsewhere.”

You know that he is looking for some extra-marital fun and being so upfront about it means he is unlikely to be one of ours. You never charm somebody by playing your B.L.U.F. – bottom line up front. Rather, in order to bluff, a far more subtle and insidious approach is required. These individuals may have narcissistic traits but they are not in our gang. They operate on a percentage basis. Keep asking for nude pictures often enough and someone is bound to agree. Keep plugging away for someone who fancies a quick bunk up and somebody will eventually respond. That is all they are interested in. They are not after your fuel. We are.

So, what do we look for when we are scouring the digital directory of potential appliances? Naturally, the cadre of narcissist affects the class traits that the relevant narcissist looks for, therefore the Somatic Narcissist will be concentrating on those who look stunning, are gym bunnies, love travel and shopping and such like. The Cerebral Narc will be looking for those who enjoy literature, the arts, demonstrate a higher education and so forth. Those class traits are highly relevant and we do look for them in the profiles of those who place themselves on an online dating site.

We also look for the empathic traits which signify to us that this person has the potential to be an excellent appliance for us and eventually maybe even be a primary source. We scour for those who have the special traits as well, which amount to a bonus. Finally, we look for indicators which tell us that you are unlikely to put up much resistance. Combine all of these indicators – the class, empathic and special traits, add in the knowledge that you are not going to be difficult to approach and engage with and it all points towards a viable target for our attentions. Not all of the empathic or special traits will be present in your profile, this requires additional investigative work on our part which we will engage in, but we will have seen enough which tells us that you are more likely than not an empath and well worth targeting.

So what are these phrases and descriptions that stand out a mile to our kind and have us converging on you? There are numerous that exist, but here is a selection of ones which are used most often.




  1. Been Hurt Before

Our klaxon goes off to tell us that you are damaged goods and therefore ripe for the taking. Somebody has tenderized you already and thus our insidious charm will meet with little resistance. You will be delighted to find someone so caring, so compassionate, so considerate and so into you. Such a contrast to the predecessor. You will not be warier for the experience but actually more vulnerable because you clearly do not recognise our kind when we come hunting.

  1. Loves animals

If you are prepared to care for a lower life form, feed it, groom it, exercise it, play with it, buy it things, pay vet’s bills and so forth, you are clearly a caring person. Nine times out of ten an animal lover is also someone who is very caring towards their own species too, there is the odd exception of course, but it is more often a reliable indicator of empathic traits than not.


  1. I’m new to this/ I cannot believe I am doing on-line dating

You have not been able to meet anybody through a traditional method and you are telling us this because you feel somewhat awkward and silly that you are doing this. Don’t worry, we will put you at your ease because guess what? We will tell you we are new to this (of course we are not) and let’s handhold on this new adventure. This also tells us that there is a degree of desperation to find somebody because you are trying to suggest you do not use this ordinarily. Well you are here now aren’t you because nothing else has worked?


  1. I like to stay in with a glass of wine and a DVD/cosy up in front the fire/ walk in the park on Sunday and go to the pub for a roast/ have Sunday brunch and read the papers together

You are a love devotee. How so? These standard phrases originate because you have watched the fabricated happy Hollywood couples in film, or read about them in glossy magazines and novels which advocate that this is the way that couples spend every evening or Sunday together. You are susceptible to being sold the ideal of how love is, the romantic and wonderful view of love and by using phrases such as these you are indicating that to us loud and clear. You want an ideal form of love? Guess who can manufacture that in an instant?


  1. Church/God/Spirituality

If you make mention of this on your profile you are exhibiting, you operate by a moral code and therefore you will have empathic traits. If you demonstrate some form of spirituality this tells us that you have a belief system and therefore you are susceptible to suggestion. This ranges from being a good and decent person through to someone who believes that love will solve every issue and problem. That mind set is appealing to us.

  1. Charity involvement

If you make mention of your work at the local homeless shelter, you volunteer with a medical charity or are engaged in fund-raising we know you are a giver and not a taker. We also know that you have significant levels of empathy and that you will go the extra mile to secure the happiness of somebody. We want that attitude directed towards us.


  1. I am a middle child/ I come from a large family

There is a good chance you have not been afforded the attention you might otherwise have wanted and thus we know that we can secure an easy win by lavishing on you plenty of the aforementioned attention. We also regard this as demonstrating that you are quite stoic individual who has been used to just getting on with things, so that having someone come along and help you and put you at the centre of things will really gain your approval and appreciation.


  1. I just got out of a committed relationship

So you have and by writing this you are telling us two things. The first is you want another one pretty quickly because you do not like being alone. The second is that you have evidently been the one who has been dumped or cheated on as you are saying you were the one who was committed and you want other people to know that you were committed. This tells us that you are keen on getting to the truth of the matter, an empathic trait and that you will stick around.


  1. I am looking for a knight in shining armour

So many bases are ticked with this one. You are a love devotee as you are sold on the idea of romantic love. You want someone to save you and therefore you will respond well to such overtures. You have evidently suffered previously and therefore you have been softened up in that regard as detailed above. You are also expecting somebody else to be chivalrous and bear the burden, which translates into you wanting that person to buy you things, take you places and spoil you. No problem, that all comes as part of the Love Bombing package.


  1. I am seeking someone who is financially secure

You have financial problems which we can exploit and/or you were with somebody who had financial problems so you want to avoid that happening again. You are attracted to success (or the appearance of success) and this is a motivating factor for you. We will be happy to factor that in for you.




  1. I am ready for a long-term relationship

You have not been able to find anybody so far, so desperation is starting to creep in. You are also a giver and believe in relationships, you want to be bound to somebody and make it work. You have just tilted your head and exposed your throat to us.


  1. I want to be swept off my feet

Another indication of being a love devotee who believes in excessive romanticism and also a key indicator that our whirlwind approach to seduction will reap significant rewards and find favour with you. You will be swept off your feet alright, you just may have trouble getting up again.


  1. I am tired of games

Again another signal that you have suffered in the past and therefore you are susceptible to manipulation. This offers us the chance to exhibit that we are honest, straightforward and reliable to draw you in and then we can commence our manipulations of you with impunity.




  1. Looking for The One

More evidence of the love devotee, someone who is ready to pour their heart and soul into the relationship and therefore you will be overflowing with empathic traits. Not only that, you will fall prey to our various ways of telling you that you are The One, Our Soulmate and The Person We Have Waited Our Whole Life For.

  1. Mention of the caring professions

If you happen to explain you work in nursing, look after the elderly, you sign for the local deaf community and so forth, this lights up that you have empathic traits and this especially appeals to the Victim Narcissist who will be looking for his own personal carer.

There are many more and we look for a selection of these in somebody’s written dating profile to confirm to us that you will have the various traits we desire and that your resistance to being seduced will be low.

Time for a re-think on what you have written?



359 thoughts on “The Online Empathic Target

  1. Sara says:

    Thx HG will keep a lookout for the devaluation article! I think you could ask the same of a perennial Trump voter. Or of never going to a magic show again bc one knows the secrets. Although, the magician doesn’t actually saw the lady from the audience in half, and in this realm one cannot be so sure (haha?). Perhaps the sensory overload you talked about is a large piece and having to unwind consciously what was largely unconscious. They/you are very good at what you do if ‘fuel’ is the air to breath. And on the flip side, super empath types seem wouldn’t be as bothered by the highs/lows, good/bad behaviour bc they generally want to help and aren’t needy – so it doesn’t seem easy quits with this type or in any intense relationship for that matter, even if one knows what one is dealing with.

  2. claudiasssssss says:


  3. Sara says:

    Well – still getting to the ‘exorcism’ chapter hehe!! I am speaking bout greater narcs but also charismatic exs & just how to get back with someone in general when they decide or start to decide you aren’t their person.. when someone is starting to cross you off not sure if there is cookie-cutter way to prevent it. you gain what I read is negative fuel if someone gets sad/mad/apologize but it’s also pathetic and furthers a devalue, no? It appears you and your brethren might deflect and have tools, and wonder the same. no one likes being devalued/discarded – so even if it is to have the choice or some grace, it could be helpful what recommend..thanks again!

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Yes you gain negative fuel from the behaviour that you describe and at the same time there is contempt for the weakness which maintains the devaluation period along with the knowledge that further fuel can be obtained.

  4. Sara says:

    Tnx so much!! have you written about what one can do if they feel the devaluation coming on to stop it? likewise if they’ve had a discard, have you written on how-to’s to be re-instated if there is another primary focus?

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Hello Sara, there is an article concerning the devaluation as you ask, so keep an eye out for it.
      Why would you want to be reinstated post discard if you know what you have been dealing with?I am interested to know.

  5. Sara says:

    Hello HG tnx for your time and astute thoughts. Wondering what makes one fuel better quality or more potent? For example, what makes you choose one super empath over another super empath if they both relentlessly cater to you? Or if each compliments you, is there something they say or how they say says it that elicits a stronger reaction in you?

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Hello Sara, you are welcome.
      If one has better traits that can be stolen and/or better residual benefits that person will be chosen. Fuel is the primary consideration however.
      In terms of the compliment, if they both say it, in the same fashion, with the same expressions and are both super empaths the effects is the same.

  6. Indy says:

    I’m so happy to read you are back, ABB!!! Missed you. Your wit, smartassery and smarts (plus your well hidden marshmallow heart inside😊always made me smile as well as pushed us to think. Hugssssss

    1. Indy!!!! I read your response to French!!! This is why we connect so well…I do believe we are kindred souls! <3 😉

      Anna Bell! Welcome back…you have been missed by many in here!! Especially in our naughtiness posts…. <3 Even though you called yourself a sociopath (at one point) it was clear that you were either kidding us or yourself and as Indy said your "marshmallow heart" was melting through! 😉 So jump right in and play with us!

      1. Dragon creeper
        Gotta pet named jeeper
        Loves that girl frenchtoast
        Doesn’t need to brag or boast
        Naughty girl is on the lookout
        No narc troubles cuz they cub scouts
        HG is the one exception
        If only he would just let us in
        You’d get that paddle that you talked about
        You’d slap that ass and make em shout
        Kiss his mouth in the French way
        He’d be in for the best 3 way
        Marshmallow friend wants 2 watch please
        Might get dirty and get on my knees
        I’ve got sociopathic tendencies
        So I dont do that shit in dark alleys
        Makin that jump to come play with you
        I’m Anna Belle Black
        I’m here to party witch u.

        1. Anna Belle!!! You hit it right on the head!!! I think I’d love to be between toast and your marshmallow! 😍

      2. Indy says:

        Dragoncreeper, thank you 😊 💕 She completely blew me away with her analysis! Yours was lovely as well and I really dug the story behind your name! (Are you an nner hippy too?) my nephew has a bearded dragon (love that boy and his lizard) though I don’t know what kind a dragon you are referencing, it’s a water dragon? Something that swims in an aquarium? Sounds beautiful.

        1. I am an inner hippy to an extent! 🙂
          I am speaking of a Chinese Water Dragon. 🙂 They are like iguanas but different in their own right! 🙂

    2. Aaawww – Indy
      Ya know I speak – hindi,
      So glad that you – missed me,
      With my smart – assery,
      Got mad skills with rhymes – yo
      Got a heart like a marsh – mallow
      Make a narc think twice – ya know
      Made you smile from the – get go
      Pushin love in your di – rection
      Make HG get an e – rection
      Might be new here to – some
      But not my girls Indy, DC and – 1jaded1
      Anna Belle Black is back in the – hizzy
      With comments galore so I gotta get – busy!
      *black out*

      1. Indy says:

        I’m gonna sound 80 years old when I say:
        You got that flow!
        Glad you didn’t go!
        Better than Raw cookie dough!
        Hindi you say?
        We need to play!
        You just totally made my day!!!


  7. I laughed, I cried” & to end… the last line from our Canadian just for laughs comedy show as the ending credits roll…”Mommy!!…WAHHHHHH…it’s over” Thanks for the great article HG and the laughs one and all x’s

  8. Claudia says:

    Not, I.

  9. bloody_elemental says:

    I do despise long, awkward, drawn out, goodbyes.

    1. I am tickled by this response….

  10. Claudia says:

    I love all of you, dearly… please know this. But, I must leave, now, by my own choice. I do not feel that I deserve to be here, anymore. You are all so very kind <3 <3 <3 I LOVE YOU ALL!!!

    1. AH OH says:

      Don’t be silly. This is not about deserving anything. It is about a choice. You have a choice love. >

  11. alexis2015s says:

    I read a comment somewhere HG about Ns ending up lonely. I can’t find it again now, so I’ll ask my question anywya.

    My MN (who is not very well at the moment and genuinely so) has gone back to an old fuel source for about the fifth time. He needs fuel and neexs it now. This is a fuel source about a year post me. Anyway, she is certainly someone who he would get low fuel from others for their appreciation of him being with her. But a high fuel source in terms of how easily he can manipulate her and her degree of reaction, but low again because she is a’Lee’ and therefore her own emotional range is limited – pretty much to very obvious anger and jealousy.

    His repeated hoovers of me have failed and his attempt to attract a new fuel source (which from my observations, he put copious amounts of efforts into) appear to have failed. So he has gone back to the Lee. It is a desperate time for him (due to his illness) where he needs as much fuel as possible and he is also maxing out on the secondary fuel.

    Anyway. I’m interested, having to go back to the fuel source / appliance he has. Assuming my observations are correct. I suspect he would really resent having to go back to this fuel source. I wonder how this would make him feel. Wpuld he feel resentful ? Or would he justify this in his head that he has selected the best appliance after all?

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Hi Alexis, an interesting scenario. I assume that he is using the Lee as a primary source. He will convince himself that she is the best appliance BUT this state of affairs will not last for long. It will only be a matter of time before he commences devaluation because her fuel level will not suffice for long enough. He will then devalue and be looking for a new primary source, he will also turn to additional secondary sources to prop him up during this time period.
      With regard to the question about ending up lonely, the recent post re Narcissistic Myths will probably answer that for you.

      1. alexis2015s says:

        So he has a permanent primary, a wife of about 10 years. Who is empathetic. His lee is a short term primary source. I assume you can call this his primary ? So there was another being groomed that I was not aware of. I knew this other was a good secondary source of his but I did not think she would become a primary for a few different reasons. Anyway she too is a PD and from my perception, she would not be a good prospect for long term fuel. I don’t like her so really don’t care that she has been targeted.

        It’s all very interesting and I know he likes the PDs and there are many to choose from. However, based on your writings it does make me question some what whether he knows what he is doing in his selections ? That said, I only see this particular fragment of his life. Which is a fair chunk of it, but perhaps he has more empathetic fuel sources elsewhere ?

        I do find it fascinating as although this is a watering hole. There is also a limited supply and he has now been through most of it and has to keep recycling. I wonder how long he can keep this going before everyone works this out ? Not that he is an N, they’re not clever enough to do that. But just that he has worked his way through everyone. There is a constant drip of new supply but that’s small and infrequent.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          Hello Alexis,
          This wife will be the primary source. Lee is an intimate partner secondary source. He may make Lee a primary and the wife a secondary and ping pong between the two. We do not have two primary sources at the same time. Yes, the PDs are usually indicators of excellent fuel, hence our interest in them. How many people are in the watering hole? This will impact on how long he can keep the recycling going for.

          1. alexis2015s says:

            Well there have been another two since then. This last one appears to be receiving some minor devaluations but she makes him look very good so I think he’ll keep her a bit longer. He’s definitely a sycophant and he wants some of her glory off on him, but she is quite dull and I sense he is bored. And he still continues to hoover me. The watering hole always has a trickle of new supply.and he certainly manages to dominate it.

  12. Which version of you? Claudia/claudiasssss/Christine/Tina/Darling/xxxxxx? So many people living in one body, it hard to keep up. Maybe I am not bright enough to keep track? Or maybe you want to throw people off? Or maybe you are the song 32 flavors by Ani DiFranco?

    1. I am glad I am not the only one who confused different users with the same person… I was really confused when they were talking to each other…. but I am pretty sure 2 = 1.

    2. Claudia says:

      But, we all love YOU, frenchtoastweb (wink)… Version of what, beloved?

      1. Claudia,
        Don’t hate me cuz you aint me.
        You dislike me, I don’t know why. I imagine that is why the wink.

        Version of YOU is what I wrote. Can’t you read?
        I am not your beloved and you know that. Hence the smart-ass we all love you FTW wink.

        It is on starting now:

        You got multiple names and multiple comments that suggest that you are slutty, then outraged over sex, then you are sorry for what you said, then you are not, then you want to leave site, then you want to stay, then you post unrelated content then correct it, you are obviously insane. In fact you said you don’t know who you are that you have no identity. I can answer that, uh you’re Crazy!

        Yes I will say that everyone who knows me loves me. I don’t know you and I don’t want to.

        Whoever left your cage open needs to be fired. You need to use gluestick instead of chapstick. You need to come with a warning label or an off button. Why don’t you do us all a favor and give us an intermission to all your drama?

        Oh and I like how you wrote this then
        Then minutes later apologized to me for what you wrote….I don’t know who you are, but whoever you are, I’m sure everyone will agree with me.
        *drops mike*

        1. AH OH says:

          I LOVE YOU FRECHTOAST!!! Come over and I will make some for you. You are a member, along with 1j1 and DC and Bloody and a few others of the ten wives club. >

          1. Ah Oh,
            Thank you. I would absolutely love to eat your frenchtoast…..haha. I had too although I am not from the Isle of lesbos in Greece.

          2. Claudia says:

            I love you all, too…despite what you feel about me.

        2. Claudia says:

          My wink was not sarcastic, DC. My wink is a way to smile in love. I am not into the social norms of others simply because I do not know what they are. I did mean that I do love you. You can dislike me if you wish, but I love you. I love you as the person in whom I see you are on this blog. I love you (wink)..means, I love you (smiles). I did not know the wink was an offense. I never did know this. Thus, I will stop using my winks, now.

        3. Claudia says:

          I mean “Frenchtoast”, excuse me if I said DC…

        4. Wink says:

          “Don’t hate me cuz you ain’t me”?? Very Tacky, Frenchtoastweb…just tacky. Incidentally, your toast is burnt.

          1. Enough! I am back to say to you mpd psycho beotch that I agree with FTW. You said to me on September 28th on the post Everything is not enough that you loved everyone except Anna belle, then said no I love her. You said you were leaving, so get gone. Tacky? That means to show poor taste. FTW has never been distasteful. Thats you projecting. I recall you saying your taste is in clipped toenails ketchup and mustard on a dick and leftover smegma in your panties. Toast is burnt? Your brain is burnt probably because it fried from electro shock therapy. Do us all a favor, exercise your right to remain silent, because what you say is definitely going to be stupid. HG, what is wrong with you for allowing this? No Ad hominem, hah!

          2. HG Tudor says:

            Nothing wrong with me ABB, I allowed some of it (you only witnessed a fraction believe me) to make a point. Some people have grasped it. Other have not yet.

          3. Thank you HG. I know that there is nothing wrong with you. I meant it as an urgent need to address the situation. As I know I deserve no explanation from you thank you for giving me one and I appreciate that you did something.

            On another note. I have been missing you HG and everyone else. I had to keep myself out for a while but I would gladly come back if you allow it. I am in a much better position now and things have calmed down. I had a friendly reassurance from a supportive person who is very good at cutting through the drama and breaking things down to facts. This is what I needed from him. When you have emotional upheaval it’s sometimes hard to see the forest through the trees. I needed to step back and focus on the solution rather than the problem. HG you do an excellent work everyday trying to teach us this. If I would have applied your method in other areas of life, I would have coped faster. So, your methods work not only in a narcissistic arena but in everyday life. If you feed the bad dog instead of the good one that is inside all of us, that dog wins the fight.

            I hope that everyone here will welcome me. I did watch from a distance and could not hold back with the way one individual was presenting. I am empathic at heart and I have a strong sense of justice….government jobs do that to you. I couldn’t watch and not act. I have to fix. I have to stand up. I have to mediate or stay strong in my conviction. I don’t cave, I yield. But God help us all when you pick on me or someone else. I don’t take kindly to that because I grew up in a courtroom. Someone was always making a case, debating their side, calling witnesses, mincing words, trying to sway, recalling past crimes and asking me to be the judge or jury or mediate the case. I almost went into law. My Father was in the city court. He as a narc liked to hear emotional upheaval all day and be the one to control the outcome of people’s lives. Perfect job for him. I asked one time how can you sit and listen to people argue all day? He said I was raised in it and married your mother, it’s second nature. Emotional fuel I know now. We’ll my fellow forum mates, it will feel good to be back. Maybe I should be Anna belle back?

          4. HG Tudor says:

            Helo Anna, it seems to me that you are back and you are naturally welcome to be back.

          5. You are sweet. Thanks for leaving the key under the welcome mat. ♡

    3. bloody_elemental says:

      I am a poster girl with no poster
      I am thirty-two flavors and then some
      And I’m beyond your peripheral vision
      So you might want to turn your head
      Cause someday you might find you’re starving
      and eating all of the words you said

      I love that you mentioned that song French. It is one of my favourites.

  13. SA,
    Thanks for clarifying. Here are my thoughts on your choice and thanks for asking for my input.

    Ah oh…..could mean: aaaahhhh ooooohhhhh like feels good. Or ah (pause) oh. Like uh ya right. Or ah, oh (with a jump) like someone pinched your ass. Or like ah, oh I didn’t get it.

    Uh oh….could mean obviously we are in trouble. It could lead one to think of the cartoon the jettsons Astro the dog saying Rut Ro or Ruh Ro by Scooby-Doo. Both were voiced by the same guy. Or it could be ( and my personal favorite) Beyonce’s Crazy In Love the 50 shades version….sexy.
    Uh oh, uh oh, uh oh, oh no no. (Meaning yes yes).
    And there you have it. Although Stevi Ann is pretty too. Does it come from Stephanie? And I wasn’t invited but Vegas is Narc Nest. Let’s all enter the Lions den. *lions salivating*

    1. French <3 can you do me next?? I am so thrilled with how you have analyzed their names…. it is a little hot!! 🙂

      1. DC,
        Of course I took it there… u next….😗 I’ve heard that before….lol

        Dragon…..of course there is fire breathing. There is enter the dragon….hehe. kimodo dragon reptilian. Dragon comes from Greek Draco. Draconian is a harsh form of punishment, harsh or severe. So bdsm? It also has roots in Mesopotamian poetry, the epic of gilgamesh which goes back to the city of ur which is where chaldeans are from and one of the most famous biblical characters Abraham. That’s not sexy though so let’s get back on point. The dragon is also known as the basilisk so kinda Harry Potter. Draco Malfoy. The context of how you see the dragon is important. Powerful beast? Mythical? Fantasy? Needing to be slain?
        Could be a plant. Ivy is a creeping vine…it wraps itself around something and can choke if not tended to properly. It can be poison. It can be beautiful vine with flowers and fragrance. Creeper can also incite fear. As in That’s creepy. It can also be sneaky….creeping….lurking….hiding.
        It is also in the game Mindcraft. Similar to a suicide bomber but this creature lures prey into its line of fire by frowning and looking generaly sad. People fooled by this act soon are blown to millions of tiny bits as the creeper explodes. The creeper earned its name for its ability to swiftly sneak up on an unsuspecting player and quickly kill them, destroy their construction, and leave them exposed to more powerful monsters.
        So my dear DC, you are a hot myth on fire ready to wreak havoc on the down low. And the stuff of poetry. And you look and smell good.
        Mythical Fire
        Draco Ivy
        Enter the Dragon
        Lingering Fire
        Smoldering Temptress
        Pretty Lusty if I do say so myself.
        Now, why did you pick the name Dragon Creeper? I’m sure HG can come up with something for you.

        1. Oh I love it French! <3
          Once upon a time, back in 2000 when I finally purchased my first computer I went on line and realized if I ever wanted to ride the web and chat with strangers that I would need an email address and user name. I have always LOVED dragons… AND I just happened to own two water dragons: which I named Creeper (I received him first and thought he reminded me of The Creeper from Scooby Doo, lol) THEN I bought Jeeper – we all know where that came from and since they were a pair I thought it fitting. SOOOO…. in thinking of a unique tag I chose Dragoncreeper…. which should be solely mine all over the web but there are a few who have stolen it. 🙁

          Now, I must ask, why FrenchToastWeb?

          The only thing I can really see is French… I am not sure why, but are you french? Or do you just like french toast and are you french and so erotic that if I walk into your web I will be toast? 😛
          It is almost too much for my brain to process… I see french I think of Enigma, and then my mind really starts going where it shouldn't… :p 😉

          1. I like your explanation. Thank you for your back story.
            I will break it down for you.
            I am French in a historical sense. I like to French kiss. I like French lingerie. I like fashion which is related to Paris France. Toast. I love tea and toast. I love French toast. You will be toast if you f*ck with me. I will burn you like toast. I will however love to make you toast. Especially when you don’t feel good or you need breakfast. I am warm and toasty. I like to propose a toast. I’ve gone out and got toasted. I’ve stayed in and got toasted.
            Web. Worldwide Web. Tangled Web. Web of lies. Spider Web. Spiderman with superhero Web. Webbed thigh highs.
            Now Enigma. I almost chose that name so it was quite uncanny that you went there….great minds and all that.
            Conclusion….alluring tasty trap. How’s that sound?

          2. I love it FrenchToastWeb! I really do love your elucidation of words in such an illuminating way… I wish I was at home with my drawing pad because I want to draw what you’ve described for those of us that have been so lucky! <3

            P.S. I think I love those webbed thigh highs paired with that french kiss and we should just get toasted! 😉

          3. An artist. I live in New York part of the year. Artists of ever sort. Always go to the met on my last day. I have an appreciation for any art and fully support the arts.

          4. My art is just for my own fun and it is more like poetry for myself. I used to write but haven’t really felt the need too lately. The stuff I like to draw is mostly whatever is crowding my mind….very busy. I love to draw odd dragons, and I do sketches of people…but I wouldn’t consider myself an actual artist…just creative thinking! 🙂 (Much like your awesome analysis of our names) I definitely love the arts… of all sorts! <3

          5. AH OH says:

            Do you sell your artwork? What medium do you use? I collected art, but I have no room for more. Mostly sculptures , Ng Tuan, M.L. Snowden, Eichinger. A few others too. I appreciate glass art work. I have a Dino Rosen The Violin, chased this piece for three years until I found one with variations pf color I liked. My least favorite is a studio piece of Chihuly. It sits hidden and you actually have to look for it. You are very talented. >

          6. French! Is this your work? I love this regardless! <3 I am nowhere near this caliber… I hope that if I keep with drawing I will only get better… I have put much of my life on hold for narcissists. I do have to admit that some work has been inspired by them…

          7. DC,
            It is not my work but I knew of it and posted that for you. Enjoy!

          8. Thank you French! Since I find myself in a fantasy world often, you have nailed it! <3

          9. I am told that I’m good at nailing it often. He he…..uh oh, here HG comes with the paddle!

          10. Oh french… you are my kind of gal!!
            I wonder if HG will let me do the paddling…

          11. P.S. French, I am not from the Greek Island of Lesbo either but if I were… you’d have my attention! 😉 I just love the way your mind works!! <3

          12. DC,
            Thanks but I got to be careful not to upset the ringmaster.

          13. HG Tudor says:

            Damn right. Pleased you are aware of this.

          14. Sorry HG. I won’t let it happen again. I’ll go to my room and think about what I did.

          15. HG Tudor says:

            Yes, you must think on your sins. I shall devise a suitable programme of atonement.

          16. Now that I’d like to hear….no that wasn’t back talk honest!

          17. HG Tudor says:

            Back in the box FTW!

          18. LOL…. I just felt the need for you to know that.
            HG, isn’t that what you want? A barrage of women who will all work in unison to please you? 😉 AND you know your words do have me captivated… like music to my ears, no come whisper in my ear! <3

          19. HG Tudor says:

            Indeed, a legion of Tudorites fuelling me and spreading word of my works. Go to it faithful acolytes!

          20. I am finally working on my blog… I will mention you in there… of course with your permission first.

          21. HG Tudor says:

            Indeed DC.

          22. My it is getting hot in here…. can I watch, wait I think I want to be punished too!

          23. DC,
            My brain went to the old, and now I’m dating myself, schoolhouse rock cartoons….3 is a magic number…lol if you are too young, look it up.

          24. I was around for the latter years of Schoolhouse Rock lol…. but 3 is definitely a magical number! 😉

          25. Snow White says:

            Hi French Toast,
            You are very talented!!! I walked in the door from work and just read all of your descriptive names and loved them. Made my day! Thanks 😊🍎❤️

          26. Snow White,
            Since you hang out by the wishing well all day and have all those freakin dwarfs to work for, I thought after your hard day I might try to amuse you. I can’t promise you anything…here goes….
            Drifting. Blinding. Soft and wet…ooh prince song. Hard and icy…..not prince song. Cool. You like to make angels. Build snowmen or snowwomen. Snow joke. You like Snowden? Snowflakes. You are an intricate pattern that cannot be repeated. You are slightly different everytime. Snowed in. You like cabins in the middle of nowhere? Snow what? (Ghetto speak, sanow what) that’s pretty good for snow white (Ghetto speak sanow white?) You like cocaine? Snow is a blanket and can be an insulator. It sits high atop a mountain. It can be gentle or harsh. It can soothe or freeze. You don’t know if it will be heavy or light. It can get deep. It can be a gentle dusting. You can stand in awe of it. You could marvel at its vastness. Think of the Arctic/Antarctica. Unfounded territory. So much we don’t know about these snowy places yet they cover so much of the earth. Snowy was the dog from tin tin. Snow dogs…Iditarod? Mush? Your Canadian eh?
            White Stripes fan. Good girl. White cowboy hat.Reflective. White wine. Pure. Innocent. Whiteout, that goes with snow too or takes away mistakes. White Arctic wolf…animal lover? Let’s get deep now. French kings wore white. White is achromatic color, without hue. It’s one of the most common colors in nature. Birch trees. Doves. Owls. Polar bear. Magnolias. Lily of the valley. Clematis. Lambs. Enough animals….I should be counting sheep, hey they are white.
            There is a guy that wrote about snow whites story and religious symbolism. Interestingly he compared the mirror as a warning to narcissism. So how about cool beginning. White represents new. Snow joke. White fang. Snow worries. Arctic white. No color. Innocence reflected. Pure royalty. Sunny Black. Light and fluffy. Pillow. Unicorn. White Falcon. Color blind. White lace. Traces of snow. Flake…naw. it’s sno white ese it’s black…(spanish?) Snowshoes, snowbird. Ya like Florida? Snowplow. Ya run over people? Snow blower? Could be a sexual connotation. Snowbush….even Sexier for you. Snowfall if your a drinker. White house if you wanna be POTUS. Snowballing…a new position? You dirty snow…getting silly now. Snow boarders. If you like to live with people. Snowstorm. You’re relentless? Snow Bank. You’re paid up? Whitetail. In a bar…liking that white tail over there..ha. whitecaps…cuz everyone knows it’s the motion of the ocean and it’s an excellent 3rd eye girl/prince song.
            Wow snow white you were rough. I like it. I’m going to blame my lack of originality on no sleep and the tough job of trying to stop everyones mind going directly to Disney. Now tell us why snow white and don’t tell me you like apples, being in a glass case of emotion and dwarf tossing on Saturday nights.

          27. Snow White says:

            Hello Frenchtoast,
            That was wonderful!!!! Thank you for bringing me joy today.
            From prince to the Anartic to wine, owls, narcissism mirror, ghetto speak, unicorns and snowballing (a new position) LOL!!! So entertaining! You have a gift. Hope someone brings you joy today 🍎❄️

        2. Indy says:

          Wow, FrenchToast!!!! You are good!!!!!! I would ask, though I will stand in line…..nice work.

          1. Indy,
            Let’s have a go shall we?
            Let’s see…one word. Singular. An individual. A non conformist. Or the obvious hippie connotation. Indie rock. Independent. Indie person is one who does not let society dictate what they like. They walk to their own beat. Trendsetter. Or Indy short for Indiana. A Hoosier perhaps? Or Colts football? The most obvious would be Indiana Jones. Are you a college professor of archeology? Do you use a whip or a gun? Do you hate snakes? Are you a romantic and a cynic? Do you like quests and poison darts being chucked at you? Do you choose cups wisely or poorly? Do you like to run from boulders and know God’s name in hebrew starts with an I as in Indy? We could go way out and say its short for India. Do you like yoga and say namaste? Do you like curry and you love bollywood movies? You may like Moulin Rouge because The evil maharajah is defeated and the greatest thing you’ll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return. Come what may. (Can u tell I love that movie and really all Baz Lurhmann films)
            Okay enough questions. Heres the real answers. You can’t say Cindy because your tongue tied. oh wait and your real name is Indy know. Indy skies. Indy spensible. Indy Nile. Indy pendant. Indy 500. A racecar fan? Indy club. Indy ciscive. Indy Go. Your blue? Indy Skreet. Naughty eh? Indy cater. You get Indy gestion. Indy scribable. Yes indy scribable because you are unique and wonderful and a gift to humanity and a true asset to this forum. Now could we get the real reason? Please?

          2. Indy says:

            Hey FrenchToastWeb,

            To quote Keanu Reeves: “Whoa”
            I really like how your mind works. You would be a very talented profiler (are you one?) and someone that can follow multiple paths to explore possible theories….and I am sooo humbled by your kind compliments.

            So, here is what I relate to, and mind you, it shocked me you found certain things in this one word nickname:

            Namaste, my dear.
            I am a sort of hippy…though I do not dress like one. My mind, spiritually, is a close cousin to the traditional hippy. I feel a deep connection with India and all things Hindu. Love Ganesha’s and Kali’s stories particularly, though especially the dancing Shiva. When the Shiva dances, he is the creator of worlds, he beats the drum to which we dance in life and the destroyer of lies (seeker of truth). Independent lady here, indeed!

            My favorite color is indigo. I love the sky and the glowing effect of the full moon against the sky at midnight.

            Thus, Indy was chosen

            Mind blown, Frenchie~! And so grateful for meeting (reading) your beautiful, intuitive, sharp, mind.

            Secret powers? What did you sacrifice to access the spirit world records to obtain such magical knowledge 🙂 ?

    2. AH OH says:

      You are always invited frenchtoast! I will keep it Ah Oh. >

    3. Ah Oh says:

      FrenchToast. all the above at one point or another.

  14. I’m strictly here for your pleasure first right? That is my natural aim as an empath. To please and get rewarded… I thought the learning part was a side benefit for us and a strategic move by you to knock your fellow narcissists out of the competition and give you fuel because you masterminded the whole thing?

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Largely correct.

  15. Rhonda says:

    This girl needs to get out of the office more often, I see adventure is waiting on the outside.
    HG I imagine a day with you is like the last ride I took on the bike. I didnt wear a helmit, the excitement i felt running through my body as I approuched the bike swinging my leg over, turning the key. Pulling the clutch in dropping it into gear,, and ……
    It was the most excerlating ride ever. I only worried i would lose my sunglasses.
    Maybe thats what he changed in me, to experence life.

  16. bloody_elemental says:

    I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again – I largely picture Patrick Bateman when I picture you, HG.

    Only now that Christian Bale has done Batman, it’s kind of a cross between Batman and Bateman.

    Bateman. How completely apropos.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Shall I take you through my morning skin care routine BE?

      1. bloody_elemental says:

        I’ve asked for you to do exactly that a number of times already!!!!

        And don’t forget how many crunches you can do. That is important to me. And to everyone else. Because I say it is.

        Bestseller, I’m telling you!

        1. HG Tudor says:

          Ha ha I know, I must indulge you.

          I can do a thousand now.

          I am counting on it. Absolutely counting on it.

    2. NEWSIES….lets not forget this role….he sings!

  17. bloody_elemental says:

    Oh there he is. The love of my life.

  18. HG, is a “lower life form” another way of saying appliance? You mentioned that pets were a lower life form and decided I was going to try to go there 😉

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Lower life form is an animal. A pet may be an animal or an appliance.

      1. HG, as always, thanks for responding 🙂 That makes sense.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          You are welcome Sarah.

  19. I love how spot on you are with this… I tried to write about it a few days ago but didn’t quite go into this depth… Nice writing!

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Thank you.

  20. claudia says:

    I feel love in my heart

  21. claudia says:

    Oops, not sure if reply went thru…I only hoped to reiterate that I like both, American and British psychos, the very same.

  22. claudia says:

    I love American Psycho, and British ones, too <3 <3 <3

  23. claudia says:

    “…Who can take tomorrow, dip it in a dream
    Separate the sorrow and collect up all the cream
    The Candy Man, the Candy Man can
    The Candy Man can ’cause he mixes it with love and makes the world taste good
    Yes, the Candy Man can ’cause he mixes it with love and makes the world taste good…”

  24. Indy says:

    Oh Ah, you mentioned a “perfect stride” and my mind went to this….don’t hate! It made me giggle. And right now, I need a laugh. HG, I’m sure you could kick John Travoltas butt in looks, but you gotta admit, this scene is funny.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      It’s a good scene, you can tell he wants to start dancing and he is walking along.

      I thought I would share my walk into the office.

      1. Indy says:

        Hahaha….. charming!

      2. nikitalondon says:

        😱😱😱😱 total arrogance 😱😱😱
        That issoooooo out . I work for a company where management salaries are the highest in Europe and we have top managers earning as high as possible and they are humble and friedly…
        this attitude is OUT

      3. HG,
        Can I come over and use your tanning bed? I’m feeling a little pale.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          Sure. I decided to get one rather than attend the tanning salon. You should look into it. When you come over expect me to tell you that I don’t want you to get drunk but that is a rather find Chardonnay you are not drinking. Do you like Huey Lewis and the News?

          1. You should know Mr. HG that before Lucifer came along and my very first visual of your was Mr. Bateman. I will also have you know that even your finest Chardonnay can’t beat a red….blood red that Is! I do like Huey but they are a little too new age. Meg Meyers has been my #1 choice lately. Oh no, seems I’ve changed the course of the movie just a little…hope I didn’t upset you too much!

          2. HG Tudor says:

            Not at all.

            Meet my chainsaw.

          3. Indy says:

            Or cranberry juice (hehe). Hard to get that out of sheets, ya know!

          4. HG Tudor says:

            But I thought they were the best dry cleaners in town?

      4. Love says:

        Just curious, your thoughts on asphyxiation.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          It’s breathtaking Love.

        2. Claudia says:

          Sorry for this comment…oh, pardon me, it is not my comment

      5. Snow White says:

        Thanks HG,
        Between the walk and the CK boxers, I don’t think my day off could have started any better. Lol😂😂😂

        1. HG Tudor says:

          I am just such a giving person you see, SW.

      6. Ah Oh says:

        This is my visual. You read minds too?

        1. HG Tudor says:


      7. Oh, I must say… I do love me some Christian Bale! 😍

        1. HG Tudor says:

          He is a superb actor. I think though your appreciation may not be just for his acting ability.

          1. MLA - Clarece says:

            Have you had a chance to see Christian Bale in “The Big Short”? Such a completely different type of role for him and him and the movie is outstanding.

          2. HG Tudor says:

            I haven’t Clarece and I keep meaning to because I have seen the trailer and it is of considerable interest to me. I am going to order the blue-ray now. Thank you for the reminder.

          3. MLA - Clarece says:

            Good, good! You won’t be disappointed…by any of the acting. Stellar cast with Christian Bale. Not to mention true story that just makes it jaw dropping as to what was happening leading to the 2008 crash.

          4. HG Tudor says:

            I am looking forward to it.

          5. AH OH says:

            a fabulous movie. I lost a few million during this crisis. He is a superb actor. >

          6. MLA - Clarece says:

            Has the movie come in yet for you to watch?

          7. HG Tudor says:

            Yes but I am away from HG Towers at present.

          8. MLA - Clarece says:

            Gotcha! Try not to forget to tell me what you think once you have had a chance to watch!

          9. HG Tudor says:

            I ma sure you shall remind me.

          10. MLAC,
            That was nominated for best picture and Christian Bale for best supporting. He did an excellent job. Worth watching. I totally agree with you.

            My 2 Cents.

          11. He is an excellent actor and you are absolutely correct…

          12. And since we are speaking of Christian Bale, one of my favorite movies with him is Equilibrium. Stop taking the serum HG…

          13. HG Tudor says:

            That is a good film, I always enjoy dystopian works. He is amazing in The Machinist.

          14. I am inclined to agree however I do like the positive outcome, especially when the character(s) persevere!
            Yes, the machinist is an excellent movie, he definitely placed his whole exdistance into his character… I don’t think he has ever been a disappointment…even as Batman, he played Bruce Wayne well. Then again, I’m sure he was already well equipped for eloquence.

          15. BE, I think you and I have similar tastes and I just wanted to let you know that you have me laughing…. at my desk…out loud! Thank you! 😀

      8. bloody_elemental says:

        He was also brilliant in the Machinist, though he looked disgusting.

        Another movie worth checking out is Equilibrium. He was fantastic in that movie. And Reign of Fire. Because he is hot and there are dragons.

        He really is physical perfection.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          Ha ha, I have just mentioned The Machinist.
          Reign of Fire seemed like an alpha male content between CB and Matthew Bongplayer Bongsmoker

          1. bloody_elemental says:

            He still looked hot.

            I don`t have much use for Matthew McWhateverTheFuck in anything he`s ever done.

            His new Lincoln commercials make me want to buy one, just so I can drive over him with it.

          2. HG Tudor says:

            Now that made me laugh.

          3. bloody_elemental says:

            Me too.

          4. AH OH says:

            Me tooooo! I am still laughing. He has played some great roles and did a great job too. All right all right alright >

          5. Indy says:

            LOL, I used to have a crush on him…now, meh….love the southern accent and the beachy casual look…but those damn commercials with the Lincolns. Tool.

    2. claudia says:

      I love this song! The Bee Gees! I watched GREASE 25 times <3 <3 <3

    3. Claudia says:

      John Travolta is priceless in this, and also in GREASE. I love him So Much! He is so disturbing HOT!!!! I want him so much.

  25. Indy says:

    Oh Ah, Millitary uniforms do it for me to, especially those guys that know there stuff and can kick some butt too. Recent ex that was a narcicist was a Navy boy meteorologist. I’d beg for that uniform to come out!
    For all us girls looking for some candy…. This is my style here:

  26. 1jaded1 says:

    I’ll never have an online dating profile. That said, the comments here made made my day…so hilarious. Sorry HG, I won’t be chasing after your toenails.

    1. Indy says:

      Toe nails???? Wait, is this a thing? Claudia, you wild thing! I can honestly say, I’m pretty open minded in the sexual-sensual department, but you, girl, got me beat!

      Engaging in some healthy distraction, yeah a DBT skill Claudia. Been a rough night (death of an ex that was still a good friend)…..addiction sucks. Doing some self care today and some healthy tears. Toe nails made me giggle….even your damn toe nails HG, are being discussed. For cry not loud, you must be thoroughly amused and somewhat fueled! No one talks of the Queen’s toe nails!!!

      1. HG Tudor says:

        Nobody should speak of the King’s Toenails either.

        1. Indy says:

          Agreed! Now, how’s that hang nail coming? You know, from aerobics class 😉 “Walking on sunshine, I feel good, hey!”

      2. Claudia says:

        I am sorry about your loss, Indy..

        1. Indy says:

          Thank you, Claudia. Been saying that a lot today. He’s in peace now.

    2. Claudia says:

      More for me..

  27. Oh how I love intellectual sex talk! Thanks for making my Monday! Got on a dating site for a hot minute…disaster😲👎😲👎
    disaster😲👎😲👎 and yes Im pretty sure I put I giant target on myself.

    Just got a FB IM dick pic from one of DN’s old “friends”. Said he sent it so I’d trust him then ask for a pic from me….ba ha ha….um no…never!!!! He’s definitely not a narc…just a conceited dumbass that DN probably shared all my dirty little secrets with and then some so he thinks a pic will make me go numb and spread em…nope NEVER!!! Had to tell him to F off and I’m still not sure he gets it.
    One thing DN always had was a way with words and making me feel like my body and sex with me was the best thing there could ever be.

    1. Mondays need a little spice!

      How the heck does showing a dick pic make you trust a man? Maybe if it were a peanut lmao….

      On a serious note, your narc never put down your body or sex? See, mine never put down my looks and I always hear that they will put your physical attributes down in order to keep control over you. I think the only thing he’d put down is if I put on eyeliner…he didn’t even like me wearing mascara. I do thank him for giving me the confidence to leave the house without makeup.
      I know it’s silly but that never wavered with him.

      1. DC,
        Quite the opposite. He always complimented my body but he definitely twisted it and made me feel guilty and slutty at times when I now realize I was nowhere near.

        Yes, the turd that wanted me to “trust” him was exactly that, a turd. Didn’t fall for it. DN would say that I asked for it, that I said or did something to make turd boy do that…my fault….I can hear him now.

        1. Oh that is an interesting perspective… I never thought about it that way either. My first narc ever would not allow me to dress provocatively…I was 16 – 17 with him, when you want to dress a little revealing! Then the narc I married wanted to show me off and wanted me to wear make up and dress provocatively. My last one didn’t want me dressing revealing, wearing make up, none of that stuff. He too thought I was asking for attention. In the end, though, he did enjoy me dressing up in revealing dresses when we’d go out. I think I got to the point with this last one where I told him I will wear what I want because I get the same attention when I am wearing sweats and my hair in a pony tail. Then again I am a glutton for punishment…
          I hear the same jealous and insecure voice ringing through your words! Gah!

      2. claudia says:


        1. Yes, hot, burning, flavor, taste of fun? 😉

          1. Claudia says:

            I like Spice!

          2. Spice is good…ketchup and mustard are not… Well mustard ok but please don’t add mayonnaise to this mix…I think I’m going to lose my cookies too! (Wait, no cookies… yogurt would be more like it).

          3. Claudia says:

            I like cookies and yogurt!!

          4. Yummy treats!

  28. Rhonda says:

    Well this got interesting, makes me want to let my hair down and learn some new things.
    DC very visual, love it, images running through my mind will provide for an interesting night.
    I have never role played.

    1. Come, follow me to my darkest fantasies…. I think I just read too many dark fantasy books. Of course I have a preference in writers… I think HG, if he wrote fantasy, would fit right in to my favorites. There is something very alluring about the 18th century and a writer who can convey sensuality, darkness, twisted love and immortality! *Swoons* I’m at the writers mercy!! 😉

    2. claudia says:

      I will braid your hair for you

  29. I no longer have dating-site profile because I love Patryk !

    1. claudiasssssss says:


  30. Blackwidow says:

    Brilliant article. So on point in regards to the pool of losers who inundate the dating sites.
    Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa. I guess I had it coming when I described myself as a hybrid between a Victoria Secret model and Mother Theresa.
    The narc was so drunk on the prospect of fuel he asked me to marry him before our first date. I even admited to him on being an Empath -I had never done that before-. What followed was a rollercoaster of emotions and an unpleasant visit to narcville.
    I thank the high heavens for being able to detach in time.
    I’m taking some time off, but the next time I need a online profile, I do need you to write it for me HG. Will gladly pay the fee. 🙂
    Thanks for the enlightening articles.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Thank you Blackwidow. We can discuss my fee for your profile.

      1. Blackwidow says:

        HG, thanks for the response.
        I don’t think I will be needing a profile until after:
        a) I lick my wounds from the recent romantic fiasco with the CaptNarc.
        b) Quit my profession/passion (I am a pediatric intensive care nurse). As I learnt on this site what I do for a living makes me an instant target.
        c) I convince myself -again- that despite the many toads which populate the online scene there are still a few decent human beings of the male kind out there.

        When all that happens you can name your price for my online dating profile. I won’t even bargain.
        Glad that you eliminated your agent from this equation. Nice touch! 😉

        Thanks to everyone for the laughs.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          Fair enough Blackwidow, I shall await your contact in that regard. Or I may just come and hoover you….

  31. I wish to bathe in his savory, white cream of his fuel-driven hot-rod, and to feast deeply, upon his very essence with each and every one of my senses. I am not being sexual- no. It would not be proper. I am merely speaking of practical sentiments, in those things of which should simply be a factually normal mode within the daily “activities of living”.

    1. Claudia, you never struck me as one who factually functioned in the normal mode of daily life…that is what makes me look forward to your posts 😘

      1. Claudia says:

        Ohhhhh, Sarah…you do thrill me so!

        1. Claudia, coming from you, I actually take that as a compliment 🙂

      2. Indy says:

        Agreed! Never vanilla here. This is why I love this place so much too!!!

      3. Claudia says:

        Sorry, Sarah, for all of my comments and those you might have not read, as of yet. I am leaving Blog by my own choice, but before I do, I wish to express my regrets for my comments and for my slippery boundaries and footing. Hugss!

        1. No worries. It was actually good – I am here to learn and don’t need to get distracted – I am not really a WP blogger so sticking on HG’s but I am sure your blog is beautiful and with your creative mind and have no doubt it will do quite well!

      4. claudia says:

        Thank you, Sarah. Sorry for delay. Been forever away. 🙂

        1. Glad your back and hope you had a good trip!

          1. claudia says:

            Thank you, but I am going to upstate NY within next couple of days…I love to travel:-)

    2. Leilani says:

      Who are you? You ought to be in a show or movies being yourself. I find it exceedly entertaining in every aspect. A very educational post HG.

      1. claudia says:

        Thank you. However, as you might well know, my sister and I have been banned from this site by popular vote. But, I do appreciate your comment, Leilani. Do not know if this reply will even be allowed through. xxxooo Hugsss. P.S. Sorry for taking so long to answer.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          Claudia, if you had been banned how on earth would you be commenting?

          1. Leilani says:

            Wait HG, let me get my raisenets and popcorn.

          2. HG Tudor says:

            Ha ha. Are those chocolate covered raisins?

          3. Leilani says:

            Yea HG, my favorites on the set.

          4. MLA - Clarece says:

            There’s two chiming in?

          5. claudiasssssss says:

            You are bloody-smart, HG!

        2. Leilani says:

          Thank you Claudia.

          1. claudiasssssss says:

            Leilani, you are most welcome <3

      2. Leilani says:

        MLA- Clarece, there maybe 3-4 in one. Get your raisenets and popcorn. Intriguing. May be better than a show or movie I am used to…

  32. alexis2015s says:

    Thanks for the tips HG.

    I’m setting up my online profile now. I’m the nurse stroking the cat that I picked up from the animal shelter I raised a lot of money doing the fun run. I’ve been on my own for a little while and I’m looking for ‘the one’ someone to spend the rest of my life with. I don’t want anymore drama in my life !

    I’m waiting patiently for my rescuer, must be financially stable.

    Oh and willing to spend a lot on our first few dates. Because the type of person I’m lookjng to attract doesn’t do that for too long. So I need to maximise your outlay to impress me from the start and I don’t plan on sticking around for the devaluation.

    Im only in it long enough for you to spend lots of money on me and take your eye off of other fuel sources. Then I’ll be off and you’ll have to go cold turkey for a while.

    I’ll already have another big spender lined up ! And I need to maximise my gains 😘

    1. HG Tudor says:

      That is just nasty Alexis. As for cat stroking, am I to call you Blofeld now?

      1. alexis2015s says:

        I was thinking more Jessica Rabbit

    2. Alexis…I like you 🙂

      1. alexis2015s says:

        Awww thanks Sarah ! I always like someone who likes me 🙂

  33. Can I just say that I love you gals, it seems we are all on the same neurotic-erotic page (no pun intended).

    I do love a VERY clean cut man… I will even go as far to say that if he SHAVES everything that is infinite points here. (Judgement call on the scalp though, most men just look sexier with a clean hair cut.)

    Suit and tie is nice but I would rather see how well he dresses outside of work where a suit and tie is not necessary. Casual but clean.
    There is always room for fantasy roll playing… if I found a gorgeous and intellectual part time, mid 1800’s dressing vampire… I would totally be enamored.

    1. Snow White says:

      DC, that was quite a visual!!! Lol.
      Role playing and a vampire. This is getting better and better.

      1. Snow, you haven’t the slightest idea what fantasy play books my mind can conceive. Jump on in…just dont get lost, I fear that some dirty thoughts could have you eating that poison apple! :O

        1. Snow White says:

          Hello DC,
          Now I’m picturing a play room that you must have to go with your books. Lol!!!!
          I can go into my costume closet later. 😉

          1. Oh Snow! Costumes eh? Mmmm, I like that! I wish I had a play room but I just set the mood with music and candle light. If I had a lot of costumes I may dress up as well…that sounds tantalizing! Now you have me thinking… I do not think my wench costume will do for my books though. I do like those elegant erotic types… I do have to admit, Violin (Anne Rice) is my absolute favorite. It probably isn’t very erotic to many but I love the violin and naturally I have to play coordinating music to place me there…as if I am listening to the violin talk to me. *Sigh*

          2. Snow White says:

            Well DC, now that Love has told us about what happens in New Orleans that sounds like a great place to dress up and and spend a few days there. Lol… I can feel the mood being set all the way to the States. I can see all 5 of your senses at work there😉
            Do they have Comic Con over there?

          3. <3 It is funny, I lived a few hours from New Orleans growing up, always wanted to go but never did, instead I drove 1500 miles to the west… California isn't all that great…
            We do have Comic Con here, my daughter loves it… I prefer the Renaissance Faire! <3 I think I was born in the wrong century.

          4. Snow White says:

            DC, are you staying put in California? I made a pit stop there on my way to Hawaii. Long flight. The next time I will stay for a few days.
            Any excuse for me to dress up and I’m there. Lol… I dressed as the queen of hearts last year but would love a renaissance faire just as much. ❤️❤️❤️
            I enjoyed Harry Potter world also. I think of you when I see the dragons. 🔥
            So much to see across the States.

          5. Snow, yes I will be here and very close to LAX if you fly through here! 🙂 My favorite faire out here happens April to May… if you are coming this way that would be fabulous! I must admit, I enjoy being a wench but if you want to be royalty… I will be your servant! 🙂

            Oh, I have wanted to go to Universal Studios Harry Potter World! <3 It is a shame, I have all of these attractions around me and I don't even bother to go. AND I am glad you think of me when you see dragons! They are such fun and fierce mystical creatures! <3
            Where are you from Snow? If you don't mind me asking.

          6. Snow White says:

            DC, I wish I was flying that way soon but no trips planned for awhile. 😔
            Are you a wench at that faire every year? Lol.. I bet it’s a blast. I could easily put on a wench costume with you.
            You would love Universal. I went to the one in Florida. Very magical! They have a dragon roller coaster for you. Lol
            I am in Ohio. Have lived her all my life. Would love to move though.

      1. claudia says:

        I do not have dirty thoughts 🙁

        1. Yes you do Claudia… stop playing coy.

          1. Claudia says:

            If only you knew what I was thinking about, right now 🙂

          2. Hopefully not toenail clippings dear.

          3. Claudia says:

            DC, anything for LOVE.

          4. Claudia says:

            I suppose I could do with putting some ketchup and mustard on a pulsating, hard-on, put it inside a hot dog bun, lick & suck away. I love ketchup and mustard combined! (A side-order of cum would go simply splendid with this lovely meal 🙂 My mouth is watering just thinking of it! I suppose my thoughts are not as fantastical as these other commenters, but I am a simple girl. Nothing too elaborate for me.

          5. Claudia says:

            Perhaps ‘she-bopping’ with a woman who who also has a throbbing, hungry, male-member still attached…ahh, the best of both worlds…Satin sheets, too! I do enjoy silk and satin (blush)..

          6. Claudia says:

            Sorry for this above comment

          7. Claudia says:

            I did stop being coy, DC, and everybody got angry with me. I cannot be here because anything I do is not correct by reader’s standards which I do not always understand. <3

          8. Okay Claudia, you just have to keep a happy medium. If you have a hard time with it just think really hard before you post. Ask yourself, is this appropriate to post? Sometimes I start to post, reread it and then come back to it later because I am not sure about it. Sometimes I just end up deleting it.
            You just have to be conscience about what you decide to post (or say to others).
            Do not be hurt by what was said to you, no body has ill will towards you but you do have to remember to play nicely… you know kittens, butterflies and rainbows! 😉 <3

          9. Claudia says:

            Yes, DC..thank you for helping me. Sometimes I do not know exactly what is socially acceptable, or not. I will do better. I give my word. And, I do love kittens, butterflies, and rainbows! I write poems about them 🙂 🙂

          10. I know it can be hard Claudia, we are all different… which can be a wonderful thing but we do have to be respectful to others as well. If you feel like joining in to be naughty, just keep it sweet like a cupcake, okay?
            <3 I love kittens, butterflies and rainbows too.
            Did you know, in Costa Rica they have a rescue center for jaguars? AND A beautiful reserve for butterflies and various other animals?

            My dear Claudia, you need peace and serenity! <3

          11. Claudia says:

            Thank you, DC. I wish for peace and serenity <3 <3 <3

          12. You can have it… think positive thoughts! All thoughts you have that are bad…have those cute little fluffy kitties push them out! <3

    2. Love says:

      DC, visit New Orleans. They actually have a vampire cult. Try Dragon’s Den or the Dungeon.

      My apologies Mr. Tudor. Somehow we’ve turned your respectable blog into an all girl slumber party.

      1. Oh Love!!! I have been wanting to go to the Vampire Ball for Halloween!! Are you in New Orleans? 🙂

      2. Love says:

        Hi DC. I just got back from New Orleans. Great town and Halloween is the perfect time to go. Avoid Bourbon St. as much as you can. Its a tourist trap. I prefer Frenchmen St. Its more the local spot.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          What is it like Love after the flooding? Is there any sign of its impact still or has it all been dealt with. Astonishing to think that was 11 years ago.I cannot help but think about Kanye West’s outburst about Dubya when referring to this topic.

      3. Love says:

        New Orleans has been revitalized. I did not see any lingering signs of the destruction, but that’s because I was in the trendy area, French Quarter. Funny because this city’s founding fathers and mothers were drunks, thieves, and hookers. This is actual fact not gossip. So you have to take everything with a grain of salt when in Nola. Interestingly, Baton Rouge was heavily flooded when I was there… Yet the Big Easy was just fine.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          The French Quarter missed the worst if I recall because it id above sea level. I would like to visit, it sounds a fascinating place.

      4. Oh thanks for the tip Love! Do you mind me asking if you are close to LA that you frequent New Orleans often?

      5. Love says:

        Good morning DC. No, I don’t go to New Orleans often. I chose it cause of that darn Zika virus. Normally I like to travel to Latin America or the Caribbean.

  34. I. Can'tGoBackwards says:

    Lmao *…tilted yr head, exposed yr throat to us….*

    So good! 😉

    Did my former narc act as an expert witness/consultant on this one?

    He LIVES on those sites. Yep, ALL of ’em, lol. Anywhere in the world!

    I so don’t miss His Loserness, but he’s fun to make fun of, given all the grief he caused! 😉

  35. I made an online dating site and used: Hugsforyou as my name. And, as Heading, I said: I Want to Enjoy a British Man. I did not think about predators when I wrote it.

  36. Fool me 1 time says:

    Yes he is brilliant!! To bad none of it is real!!

  37. nikitalondon says:

    Agree with BE and a very illustrative post.

  38. Snow White says:

    HG, I can’t wait to read that. You must have stories that you could tell for years.

    Indy, not as pure as before. lol.. I lived on the dark side for two and a half years. Definetly not the same person. Lol

    1. HG Tudor says:

      There is a lot more to come from the keyboard of HG Tudor, I can promise you that. A lot more.

      1. Snow White says:

        Which book is closest to being released?

        1. HG Tudor says:

          There are three which are fairly well advanced and it depends where I apply my mind to over the next week or so in order to complete one.

          1. Does the choice of finishing and putting out and applying your mind (wow, where’s this question going? must be the thread) depend on machinations as well? Do you post or repost articles to manipulate those you are engaging with? It seems alot of people here have dealings with you on dating sites or email or Facebook? Or am I getting the wrong idea and you don’t engage on a personal level with blog people?

          2. HG Tudor says:

            No I do not post or repost articles for the purpose of manipulating those who read them. I do it to disseminate information and understanding and to flex my writing skills.
            Nobody on this blog has engaged with me on a dating sight. Or my personal FB page. They may have engaged with me on the FB page for Knowing the Narcissist or they may have sent me a private query through e-mail or a PM on the blog’s FB page.

          3. HG,
            Sorry if I offended you. I didn’t intend a negative tone. I just wondered if you keep in mind what is going on with your followers and may post accordingly to save yourself time. Not trying to spark that fury fire..♨

          4. HG Tudor says:

            Quite alright FTW you did not offend me.

    2. Indy says:

      SW, balance of shadow and light is always real and makes one interesting …..lhaven’t been pure since ……that confessional booth incident in the 80s…hehe.

      1. Snow White says:

        I think I was missing the balance. Lol.. The dark side intrigued and seduced me. 😈

  39. bloody_elemental says:

    That`s why HG is such an effective machine.

    He titillates and conquers one of the most important body parts – the brain. He infiltrates and penetrates and cajoles and caresses the grey matter until the victim is blinded by the beauty and perfection of his words and actions.

    And even though it`s all too good to be true, the victim can`t process it because it`s kind of like wandering through the field of poppies in the Wizard of Oz, only it`s HGs words that make you drunk and lose consciousness/perception of reality.

    It’s bloody brilliant and it’s no wonder he is so good at what he does.

    1. Very well stated Bloody!

    2. I got so intoxicated after reading one of HG’s articles that I ran into the wall. I have to make sure I am sitting down, and brace myself whenever I read from him.

  40. Indy says:

    Well, shoot!! No wonder….I am a bloody target! When I go out there again in the dating world, I am really not sure what to put in my profile now. You wrote it above, HG.
    I met my recent ex online and he was a upper mid cerebral type with victim qualities. Now I totally know why he was drawn to my profile. 1,2,4,5,6,11,13, and 15 all apply and many were in my profile.
    I love animals, am spiritual, love intelligence and think of myself as intelligent, work in a caring field, etc etc….
    HG, I don’t have a profile anymore….crap.
    Now, write me one…hahahahah…do you have a fee? LOL
    Laughing at myself….

    1. HG Tudor says:

      My agent will be in touch concerning the fee Indy.

      1. Indy says:

        Care to barter? 😉

        1. HG Tudor says:

          What are you offering?

          1. Indy says:

            Sweeping the dirt from my mind…..

          2. HG Tudor says:

            Bet that takes some doing Indy.

          3. Indy says:

            yeah, need a Hoover

  41. anteah says:

    Well, while HG is certainly super informative and also happens to be helpful, not by altruistic design, as I understand, not all of us are attracted to suited up man sitting in the board room meetings being smug and superior, driving nice cars and wining and dining people to impress. I can imagine I am saved in a lots of ways by being attracted to bad boys/girls who look and act like they are bad from the get go, gives you a bit of premonition as to what’s to follow. Clean cut, preppy style thankfully never been my preference, but I can imagine there is a lot of dirt that can be covered by this appearance.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Anteah, sometimes I don’t wear shoes and socks at my desk. That’s how bad I am! I can feel you tingling from here.

      1. Snow White says:

        Maybe tomorrow when you are at your desk you can strip from the waist down! Lol… No one will ever know.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          That reminds me a board meeting. You will get that story in Work and the Narcissist.

        2. Indy says:

          Oh Snow is not so pure!!! Hehe

      2. AH OH says:

        I do not wear shoes at the piano as I want to feel it vibrate when I depress the peddle. Does this count?

      3. The thought of your naked feet, Sir HG, thrills me like none other! I feel like I might get pregnant with child just thinking of it …

        1. AH OH says:

          Easy Child! Do you have a foot fetish? It is actually the my least favorite body part. I get pedicures twice a month and I have nice feet too. But I still do not like to touch feet. >

          1. AH OH, anything that belongs to Sir HG is a feverish for me. I would thrill to dash to the very ground and collect each and every bit of his toenail clippings; if only I might have the privilege to do so! I would count myself rich beyond description!

          2. AH OH says:

            Please girl, that just grossed me out. I almost lost my cookies with this post. I had to walk away from my manicurist one day when she was clipping toenails. OH boy. I need to get this visual out of my head as it is drying my stuff up and honey I don’t need any help. >

          3. This is, indeed, a very delectably, slippery post today.

            Had Mr. HG just said he’d “almost lost his cookies”, I would have lost complete control due to the sheer, unadulterated ecstasy of the mere thought of his beautiful “insides” being actually made visible to me thru sight, taste, touch, sound, and scent. (Yes, even taste.) What could be more deliciously erotic than to experience that- through all the senses-which had been inside of this man, only moments before?? My heart is throbbing.

          4. Claudia,
            Losing your cookies means throwing up. Not baby batter. Just so you know. Your welcome.

          5. HG Tudor says:

            That got a laugh at this end.

          6. Claudia says:

            Frenchtoast, 🙂 🙂

          7. Claudia says:

            Sorry HG Tudor, and Readers, for my comments last night. This is today, and I am deeply regretful. Before I leave, I am expressing my apologies upon all of my comments.

          8. HG Tudor says:

            You have expressed your apologies Claudia, you need not keep posting them.

          9. Claudia says:

            Thank you then, HG Tudor, for helping me to stop posting them without getting angry at me. You are gentle and kind. I will miss you. If you could see me noe I am crying. I cry not because I feel sorrow for myself; I cry because I will miss you, HG, Sir..and DragonCreeper, Frenchtoast, Sarah Mercedes, ILOVEJESUS, and several others. I am so sorry. Good Bye <3 <3 <3

          10. AH OH says:

            Accepted and just write it but do not post it if this helps. >

          11. Claudia says:

            I will do as you say, although I do love to share. But, I will keep it to my own writing, AH OH.. Thank you <3 I like you.

      4. MLA - Clarece says:

        I think the big question now HG, is boxers or briefs? CK or DKNY? Lol

        1. HG Tudor says:

          Boxers. CK. Since you ask.

          1. MLA - Clarece says:

            You’re welcome Ladies!

          2. Indy says:

            MLA, I like your style. Subtle, to the point….and you achieve results 🙂
            I liked how you profiled his bum, literally.

          3. MLA - Clarece says:

            Less is totally more. Lol And personally I was checking for easy front access…which is nice with boxers.

          4. HG Tudor says:


          5. MLA - Clarece says:

            hee hee

          6. claudia says:

            Before I leave, I want to say that I LOVE BOXERS!!!! Now, good-bye.

          7. HG Tudor says:

            We heard you Claudia.

          8. Claudia says:

            Sorry for above comment, HG Sir.

      5. Ah Oh says:

        Boxer Briefs are very sexy if the guy has the right body to put in them.

    2. AH OH says:

      You go on with your bad self Anteah. Love the honesty.

      I prefer the preppy look. I prefer the white collar world. I wish I could do bad boy because there are some hot ones out there.

      1. bloody_elemental says:

        A bad boy in a suit.
        It doesn`t get much better than that!

        1. Indy says:

          AGREED!~ Now, give me that tie (i.e. leash). Manicured hands, nice smell….the façade of delicate (refined) until you know him….nods…

          However, also, I love a little grunge look too. An artist in ripped jeans, a hippy boy, etc…they can be yummy too…..if they also have a brain and give me some woo-woo spiritual talk….yep….yum. Now, let’s talk astrophysics and how it relates to human unity while eating nachos….pass it to the left (jk).

        2. AH OH says:

          And some uniforms. A well decorated military man can get my attention. The Jet pilots mainly F/A 18 aviators, I am talking rock star status, holy hell are they amazing. It is due to their big egos. They are up for anything if they are challenged and boy did I target them when they were here for RED Flag. I have had a couple. My first being when I was training at the hospital at Nellis and I met a Thunderbird pilot. I learned about the ego of these guys then when I was not impressed with what he did. He was so shocked too. Yes, I loved them and they loved me.

  42. Snow White says:

    Thank goodness I have never been online. I would have said all the wrong things and met all the wrong people.
    I am a sitting target without all of that.

    1. AH OH says:

      Snow White let us vet you future guys.

      1. Snow White says:

        AH OH,
        LOL, I have no doubt that you would be able to find the good ones… I would love to be in Vegas with you for a few days. You and Bloody would be able to teach me a few things. I could learn a lot. ❤️❤️❤️❤️

        1. AH OH says:

          Please come. I am here unless I am not. I do travel often. Not in the past month as my cat of 15 years is not doing well and I have to go to Colorado at the end of the week. It is only for four days.

          1. Indy says:

            Poor kitty 🙁 I lost my kitty of 15 years just this past June. Now I have he infamous kitty I was given by the ex and just adopted another this past week (2 kitties). Yeah, yeah…Cat Woman here.

          2. AH OH says:

            as long as you are not known as the crazy cat lady in the neighborhood. prrrrrr

          3. Snow White says:

            AH OH,
            Vegas is a place I have always wanted to see. I have not been out west before. Just up and down the east coast. Now you have me wanting to go to Sweden. Lol
            I am sorry to hear about your cat. I am an animal lover❤️

          4. AH OH says:

            Thank you. It is hard to make the decision to end the life. I will know the time. They let you know somehow. He has bone cancer so I have a good dose of his pain meds that if he breaks his leg in the middle of the night I will take him out with a lethal dose of the medicine. I have made this decision. My vet will come to my house to do it otherwise. >

          5. Snow White says:

            That is soo hard to go through. The pain I felt from making the decision to end my dogs life was excruciating. I had never felt anything like that in my life.
            Unfortunately now I have felt the pain from ending my narc relationship and that is at the top of the pain ladder. Only the people here would understand.
            Two pains that I don’t wish for anyone to have to experience.

          6. AH OH says:

            I agree. The pain with my narc was not ending it but the reality that none of it was real. Ending it was the easy part.
            He told me that he did love me but only when he was with me. Every touch, every glance was real. But once I was not in his sight, I did to exist. This is what is hard for me to grasp. He would be depressed more then not. At the end of the day it wasn’t healthy, it wasn’t healthy, it wasn’t healthy. It wasn’t real, it wasn’t real, it wasn’t real. The best thought is it is not real for any other women he will be with.
            He would be hovering if I lived closer.

            Think about this, what am I thinking choosing men so far away from me. I have always dated men who lived in another state. I would date them here too, but preferred them at arms length. What is my issue?

          7. I’m here unless I am not. Funny. If you don’t see me, I won’t be there. Think I’ll use that the next time I get an invite to something I don’t want to attend. Lol. Thanks Ah Oh. And ah oh are you also SA? Confused by same picture. And Bloody Elemental was blood and Thunder? And Claudia was uh..multiple personalities? For lack of a better term? No offense Claudia? I can’t keep up with the name changes. And Ah Oh, I guess I am asking you because I just thought of it and I don’t want to put you on the spot or be inappropriate, so you don’t have to tell me. Maybe I should have asked HG. Don’t be mad k?

          8. AH OH says:

            No IT IS ME…..SA Do you like uh oh or ah oh? I think I will fix it.

          9. Claudia says:

            Frenchtoast, I am terribly sorry for all of my comments from last night… This is today..and I am sorry.

  43. bloody_elemental says:

    This makes perfect sense and it`s so true.

    It is rare to find a man who can hold an interesting conversation. Typically it`s exactly as you wrote above, sometimes it`s even worse than that….”Letz fuck?” Like, are you asking me if I want to fuck you or just putting it out there as a suggestion?

    There is no doubt a man like you would be able to sweep anyone (man or woman) off his or her feet. You are well spoken, you are intelligent, and you have a way with words that could melt the panties off the most frigid femme.

    Not only are you able to “make love” to a woman’s body, you are also able to “make love” to her mind, heart and soul, which is one of the most important things to any woman worth her salt.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Thank you B&T, I am pleased you have noticed.

      1. bloody_elemental says:

        You make it impossible not to.

        (This is going to be my default response from now on).

        Seriously though, it`s true.

        And that is likely why, HG, you attract such a high caliber of fuel. Because you have mastered the creation of the perfect mix of gentlemanly sexiness, intelligently erotic conversation, and dangerously irresistible bad boy.

        You`re the perfect man.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          I am obliged and just pinning that beside one of my many mirrors.

    2. AH OH says:

      Hmmm do tell Bloody. Will it make a good erotic story?
      Spot on with your comment men can’t hold a decent conversation.

      1. HG Tudor says:

        Er excuse me!

        1. AH OH says:

          Did you misunderstand? I hope not again. You posted how great HG is in intimate arena. I was hoping you would give me a thrill and share. But it is ok. I am sure you are not one to kiss and tell. If I misread the post, the blanket of sorry.

        2. AH OH says:

          So sorry. Present company excluded! >

      2. bloody_elemental says:

        Oh it would, Ah Oh!

        In fact, there would be a lot of Ahhh`ing and Ohhhh`ing in my story, along with a few bottles of Corona and a Terry`s chocolate orange.


        1. AH OH says:

          Did we kiss and make up Bloody? Do not be selfish with the story. I want to live vicariously through you.

          1. bloody_elemental says:

            Mmmm yes, she of the Raven Hair. We have kissed and made up.

            I think it would be much more interesting for us to work together than against each other. Even an Army of One could use a little entertainment and ego stroking now again, don`t you agree?

          2. AH OH says:

            Yesssss my pretty.
            Now where were we. Oh HOT GUYS. Yes I like them so much.

      3. AH OH says:

        We are talking about OTHER men. Not you HG. You are the perfect man. Bloody said so and I am going with this. I stand now with clarification of my comment.

      4. Indy says:

        OK, this is where I miss ABB, y’all. She’d love this convo.

        Indeed BT, HG is perfect in the “gentlemanly sexiness, intelligently erotic conversation, and dangerously irresistible bad boy” and genuinely smart and helps others (despite his bad-ass self 😉 …..with a catch(devaluation stage) ….but, let’s not go there…I’m digging this conversation. It’s Monday.

        1. AH OH says:

          Me too. I need some excitement.

          1. Claudia says:

            No, you AH OH cannot handle excitement

          2. AH OH says:

            I can’t handle grotesque, distasteful people or writing. >

      5. bloody_elemental says:

        Ah Oh, I am not fortunate enough to know HG outside this arena I`m afraid.

        But a girl can fantasize, and you best believe I am blessed with one hell of a fine, albeit dark, imagination.

        1. AH OH says:

          I agree. I see him as 6 ft, Dark hair, very deep blue eyes, not much body hair. Smooth pale skin. I hope his eye teeth come to a point too. Lean, but muscular. Not the bulldog stature, you know, thick neck and such. Chiseled jaw, thin nose, with full lips. And a stride like no other.

          I just totally tortured myself.

        2. Me, too! I fantasize about he, and I, holding hands and walking through a beautiful park together. And, we see a rainbow! And, there are birds everywhere singing! It gets me high <3 <3 <3 And, then he gets me an ice cream cone, and we share it together. He hugs me. (Sigh)..

          1. AH OH says:

            Awe Claudia this is so sweet. What flavor of ice-cream. >

          2. I like many different flavors, Ah Oh.

          3. Claudia says:

            Sorry for above comment, Dear Readers 🙁

        3. Claudia says:

          As I am..

      6. Love says:

        Ladies, thank you for the laughs. This blog is so entertaining!
        Ah Oh, your description of our dear Mr. Tudor is that of Edward Cullen from Twilight. I’d personally prefer him to be Khal Drago of Game of Thrones, but then he’d be a lesser narcissist Neanderthal.
        Any other movie character comparisons?

        1. AH OH says:

          In the twilight movies, I liked the father of Edwin. >

        2. AH OH says:

          Edward. I like Edwin better as a name too.

    3. Maddie says:

      I couldn’t describe it any better. Dear G. You are perfect!

      1. Thank you, Maddie 🙂 You could come with us, and the three of us could fly a kite together amongst the deep-blue sky. Do come!

      2. Confusion. But, please do still come with us! Or, Ah Oh can come with us. How lovely to enjoy the company of another from here <3 <3 <3

    4. MLA - Clarece says:

      To you B&T and HG,

      HG – Very informative piece and spot on to what I encountered the first few years of my divorce when I tried several dating apps / sites. I hope you’ll do a part II that shows what a typical Narc bio will read to lure what he wants to him.

      I pulled my former bio from a dating app, and I’m curious what you each would think of it if you read it (obviously from the friend’s point of view for you B&T if you were helping me write it. lol) I haven’t been active on dating sites for about a year now, but this was my last one.

      As brief as I try to be with sounding approachable but not giving away too much info, I’m wondering if I still have sitting target written all over me. Here goes:

      “Divorced a few years following a 17-year marriage. I’m a one-guy kind of girl. great conversation with good drinks or coffee is a nice way to start. Grew up in Cleveland, OH. Go Tribe!!”

      At times, I have left the bio completely blank and had more hits than when I took the time to write even this. It goes to show with men, they are so visual, they basically just look at pics anyways. FYI – I do not do duck faces either. lol

      1. MLA - Clarece says:

        Still moderating my online profile I opened up for critique? Jeesh how bad is it? Lol

        1. HG Tudor says:

          I’m busy using it at the moment.

          1. MLA - Clarece says:

            Well then never mind… copying is the biggest form of flattery!

          2. HG Tudor says:

            I know, that’s why you should all be delighted when we mirror you, oh, you are. Marvellous.

          3. MLA - Clarece says:

            Oh until the delight turns to digust when we figure out you’re a mirage…boom.

      2. HG Tudor says:

        Thank you Clarece, I have such a work in the pipeline.

        Turning to your profile:-
        1. Divorced – likely to have been hurt or disappointed with marriage, but the fact of being on a dating site suggests commitment to the concept of love. Two bases potentially covered – damaged goods and love devotee.
        2. 17 year marriage – stickability, likely to be empathic as despite the marriage ending in divorce, stuck with it for 17 years, denotes individual likely to try and stay and fix things. Having been married, also suggests a love devotee.
        3. One guy kind of girl – monogamous which denotes fidelity and honesty, further empathic traits.
        4. Great conversation – cerebral class trait highlighted
        5. Good drinks or coffee – likes to go out, therefore sociable, unlikely to cause problems from secondary and tertiary sources engaging by providing fuel as will see this as natural social engagement
        6. Grew up in Cleveland – damn, run a mile, it was going so well.
        (Only joking)
        7. Go Tribe! – I assume this is a reference to Cleveland Indians, the baseball team – interest in sports would tick a somatic class trait
        8. Absence of duck face – would have been a somatic class trait ticked.

        Yes you are correct about the visual element but that would go for the “normals” our kind would scrutinise picture and bio.

        Summary – you would register on the narc radar as meriting further engagement to establish the extent of the empathic and class traits. A promising prospect.

        1. MLA - Clarece says:

          Wow! Quite the forensic analysis. I thought I had dwindled it down with a pretty safe, concise bio, but I see through you where there are big loop holes to make a grand entrance. I guess my ace in the hole though is my hometown Cleveland. They must be stopping in their tracks on that one since I don’t get bombarded. Lol
          Thank you!! That was fun to get your perception and take on it.

          1. HG Tudor says:

            You are welcome, I enjoyed dissecting it for you.

          2. MLA - Clarece says:

            LOL, I’m sure you did!

  44. AH OH says:

    I was on two and shut them both down because the men on there are just creepy. I hide my profile most of the time. I realized I am the one for me. 🙂

  45. ILoveJesus says:

    You say Somatic Narcissists gravitate to beautiful gym bunnies and Cerebral Narcissists gravitate to intelligence and intellect. What if your empath is beautiful and intelligent what then?

    It is not a crime to have a Faith and Love animals btw

    1. HG Tudor says:

      The she is prey for an elite such as I.

      Nobody said it was a crime to have faith or love animals ILJ, indeed I am pleased people do, for the reasons in the article.

      1. “Beautiful Gym Bunnies” are merely Hairy-Jack-Rabbits in disguise.

    2. This is a very good question, ILJ! <3 <3 <3

  46. @rheffelb says:

    So sad but true again HG. Even the most “seasoned” recovering empath could be shaken by this blog and quite possibly duped by these extremely covert “cyber” attacks to our vulnerabilities. I have committed to myself and found it quite safe to NEVER use social media of any kind for a night out on the town for these very reasons that you have stated.

    But the paramount prerequisite to even thinking about dating again is to find one’s own peace within themselves and their own solitude first. Once one has managed this primary recovering trait after a cataclysmic relational disaster, one simply must have to identify and recognize our own vulnerabilities (triggers) in the face of a Narc’s (triggers). When you discover that magnetic draw of triggers between “you and them,” you are most certainly on your way to a permanent recovery.

    I wish you all the very best in your personal protection in discerning these vicious cyber attacks against our very “BEST” yet extremely “vulnerable” kindnesses.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Thank you Roger, well articulated as ever.

    2. bethany7337 says:

      Thank you Roger. Very well said! I agree, self awareness is paramount to avoiding another collision with a Narcissist, for me it is always about the energy I feel and sense when in presence with one- every cell in my body responds…not always negatively. There exists that eternal wound – the original one- that responds to a certain type of narcissist. Hard to walk away when that dormant torment becomes activated by the beckoning call of the Narcissist who shows up as Safe Protector. I have had enough therapy to recognize my Daddy issues and still, the allure will always tempt me to walk into those big wide open arms. Lil Girl wants to soothe and heal his “control issues” and love him into wholeness. It’s quite comical this dance and I’m grateful that Big Girl has confiscated the keys of the bus.

  47. Di says:

    “U r gawjuss, do you have nudes?”

    Hilarious HG!
    I had just taken a sip of water and this made me choke with laughter! You are so clever. 😉

    This is very good information! I did meet my X online and I can see exactly the areas that marked me as a target. Thank you for sharing.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Hello Di, thank you for letting me know. The errors of the idiots pave the way for an accomplished operator such as I to succeed. I hope you have recovered from your choking episode!

      1. Di says:

        I’m quite recovered, thanks! I did wipe spewed water from my screen. LOL The laughter was worth it!
        I have a feeling you have heard the horror stories from female friends and acquaintances.
        The way was definitely paved by one liners such as you mentioned. I found only a small percent of the men had any interest in an actual conversation. I was on the verge of deleting my account when I was blown away by a particular email, the rest is history.

    2. AH OH says:

      I also met my Narc online but I went after him. I was bored one night and went on and clicked on guys I thought were halfway decent looking with white hair. He was one of them. He is a narc of a lower level. We did not last long as a couple. We tried to interact being friends but I decided he is not worthy. His birthday is today. Happy Birthday asswipe.
      I will say he had me to the point that I wanted to shoot him in the face. He is lucky that I am not crazy, I found this blog and I was saved from a life of crime.
      Not really, but you know the drill. I can’t believe I was so upset for 60 days. The reason was I had no idea what had a grip on me. Once I was educated I felt so much better. Now I am back to being me. It feels good.

      1. 1jaded1 says:

        Lol @ Happy Birthday asswipe. Good that you are back to being you.

  48. Rhonda says:

    Thank you so much for this one, Even thou I want to be alone, truth is I dont. I see how I must have looked sense I fit most of these, you have given much to think of how to word things when I do decided HG.

  49. This is exactly why I have never had an online dating profile… people are fake and even if you aren’t a narcissist people still lie to get what they want from you. It is too easy, you are out there as a target for anyone… including psychopaths. That alone is the only reason I once made a profile, talked to someone for a bit, got cold feet when it came time to meet and ran away…never to look back! (okay, I did cancel and let him know why, I am not rude.)

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