The Narcissistic Truths – No 169
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HG – what do you think the experience would be like for you if you were completely isolated from humanity for a considerable amount of time?
Dropped onto a deserted island, or in a cabin in some remote mountains you’re unable to pass. You have the ability to look after your own basic needs (shelter, food, water, clothing, warmth) but you have no contact with humans.
What do you think would happen? How would the experience be for you? How do you think that would differ from ‘normals’ and ’empaths’?
See previous comments to this question.
And where may I find these previous comments, please?
I read this as an empath pulling away from an N, thinking isolation would keep them safe.
Or maybe he changed the names! 😉
Oh ABB, you got the Jackpot. It is so good to hear that it is possible to find a good one after a poisoned childhood. Normally all the couples, I meet who are happy with each other, do not talk about. It is normal for them. And I see the love between them and I watch them appreciating
each other after 20,30 or even 40 or more years. I remember my uncle who got a special award and hold a speech in front of about 200 people and he said that it would not have been possible without his wife. And they looked at each other with real Love. No lie HG! No pretending of Love! Both blushed a little bit. I had to go out because I had to cry. I wish they can stay together for a very long time. They are now about 70 years old.
I wish I had that. 🙁
They are blessed to have each other, Mona! And they KNOW it, which makes all the difference! 🙂
HG there is one that will understand this, she will have a part of herself that no one has ever seen locked from the world, her reasons are different from yours, yet still the same.
i am not saying this will bring change to you, but maybe one that you will learn to trust. One of the easiest things to destroy and twist when young.
One that accepts you just as you are, the uncensored HG.
He has found the one, anyone that will get up daily at 6 am to shine his head; have to be the one.
No…she’s not the one I remember he refered to her as a minion.
HG,
No man is an island. You have isolated yourself, your heart. Such a sad state. Totally alone. Empty. Constantly needing. Never quite getting. Misdirecting hate. Constantly moving from one activity to the next is not life. That is time filling. It is not happiness, you know that. Sharing yourself with another builds up not tears down.
When my husband asked me to get married I was afraid. Even though I had all those other proposals I knew his was real. It scared me. No more games, no more lies, no more fakery. Just me. I cried and cried. I told him I couldn’t do it. He told me that marriage is a beginning not an end. He said the more we did together, the more we shared together would be the start of our building. Each memory a brick. Everything we would experience would keep growing bigger and stronger and more secure. Because we built it together. We built it with seeing our dreams come together. Our hard work in action and ups and downs in the construction of a life of love. I said okay, I will try it. I live it. It was all true what he said. I never seen that in marriage. I had two parents that have spent 52 years building and tearing down, over and over and sabotaging each other’s works. They are not happy. They don’t sleep together, they yell at each other, abuse each other and for what? They are enmeshed in their narcissistic behavior. They take turns being the predator and victim. My mother hates my relationship. She always would say when we walked in her home, “Oh good, here is the happy couple” in a totally derogatory tone. They wasted their lives. Don’t waste yours HG. Share your island and your cherries.
Wise words, Anna Belle Black!
Most narcs are either oblivious to their condition or too far gone to heal. But the few who are self-aware have at least the *chance* for a fulfilling life, if they can muster the courage to take a leap of faith!
Wonderful story of yours! 🙂
Love this, ABB. So pleased you found yourself a decent.
It does seem like a wasted life, doesn’t it? What’s the point?
KIT
You dont know its a waste if youve never felt these things. You just do as you do and believe that those things people tell you are fairy tales and lies because that’s what you see and have experienced. I believe for the most part they are- there are a lot of people just hangin out together waiting to outlive the other. It doesnt help that normals cant seem to keep their shit together. But then you hear ABBs story and you think maybe……
NA,
Did I find a fucking unicorn or what? Lol.! Don’t forget that part of my story is wanting to mess the whole thing up by cheating on him. How about this……I’ll give you my nice guy husband in exchange for that direct line to Tudor Towers? If I can get HG to take my call I’m sure I can convince him to lend me some sugar. He’s from a chocolate factory dynasty after all.
Anna Belle Black.
I love your comment.
Good for you too..that you did marry him. Its lovely to hear and know real love still exists…
Of course it does …its just that its not always easy to keep believing.
So thank you for your lovely post for us to read. A post of hope..thats how it feels. Xx🌷
Coincidence?
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2006/apr/27/broadcasting.guardianobituaries
KIT
Very interesting……
I actually think his “Uncle Peter” is his grandfather, and his mother is “uncle Peter’s” daughter (HG’s mother).
KIT
* Glances furtively around with finger to lips*
Shhhhhh! The walls have ears, but your secret is safe with me.
*Grins evilly while stabbing the number of Tudor Towers into her cell phone while walking away*
“Hi B.E, we have a problem-theres been a breach……yes, a very popular CHOCOLATE bar, and NOT one of ours has been sniffing around and stirring up some cocoa……..whats that? Ahhh yes….I shall have the “package” to you by midnight. Yes……. By the fruit and nut vat. Right-see you then.
Bwa hahahaha……….
I’d rather this guy be THE Uncle Peter. He’s smart and cute and I bet his nephew is too. Plus if you watch his interviews on YouTube he seems like a ex-narc.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/nov/21/thorntons-chocolates-family
ABB
An ex narc is a dead narc lol.
That could them too. What a coincidence though, two narcs named Peter in the chocolate business. But also I read things about Peter Cadbury’s sister, Felicity Cadbury Loudin, and she sounds like how HG describes his mother.
Nooo! That’s my name! I don’t want to have the same name as HG’s birth giver!
FLICK
Dony worry about having the same name. We would never use the name for you we use for her.
He did say in a previous post that he liked the name Felicity……
Oh yes – that’s true *breathes a sigh of relief*
Give it up flirtatina, you’re HG’s sister aren’t you?
Well if I am, it means that all those disturbing dreams I’ve been having means that I am way more fucked up than I thought.
If he’s a Cadbury I am the easter bunny. Rabbitses are cute too.
Flickatina – Well, my name is that of a well-know dead Queen, but I am very much alive.
Well having the same name as a queen is perfectly acceptable Kit – to imagine having the same name as HG’s sorry excuse for a mother is somewhat less acceptable!
What’s all this chocolate business? What have I missed?
HG is apparently an heir to a chocolate fortune. His Uncle Peter and his mother are cut from the same cloth. Read “Fury” and you will see.
Read the books sunshine. Tudor will not tolerate lackluster acolytes!
I can’t. I have an inborn resistance to giving narcs what they want.
I think it should be enough for HG that I keep re-visiting his site and the repeat impressions are boosting his revenue from the adverts on the site.
This is also my theory about HG’s real identity! Felicity Loudon is definitely a narcissist. Just read this article about her gardener http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1327171/Cadbury-heiress-Felicity-Loudon-evil-eyes-rant-African-gardener.html. And also see how she stole her looks from Diana Spencer 🙂 But she may be a little too young to be his mother. I wonder if it is his aunt.
Anyways, I think we should leave HG alone with his real ID (Guess the G is for George?)
Sorry HG.
No need to apologise.
Funny its assumed she is the Narcissist (surrounded by dogs no less and much to HGs horror lol) He could be covert and playing the victim. He did acheive the goal of getting his family over. They both could be. The only thing clear is that the golden period is over. Diana? Really? Oh! Is one of the dogs named Diana? My bad then.
You are right NA. It is difficult to know if a person is a narcissit or not just by reading an article on-line. And yes, the gardener could also be the narc in the story. I just read this many weeks ago as I was trying to learn more about the Cadbury clan and I guess I wanted my theory to fit and wanted to see possible narc relatives of HG. That is all 🙂
But if you google Felicity Loudon and see the images you get, you will see she does have a Diana Spencer attitude in some pics.
LOU
Oh Lou, Im just messin with ya and playing Devils advocate. Its what I do. It’s an interesting theory and lots of fun to guess, but Im thinking if we were closing in Willy Wonka wouldnt be publishing our comments lol.
HG, is it possible some narcs actually do like dogs as that gives them a feeling of having power? Dogs obey most of the time and follow their masters. Could that give fuel to a narc?
No, an animal does not give fuel. It might form part of a façade though and an image by which to lure in victims.
Funny, now that I think of it, none of the narcs in my life had or have pets. And if they have children it’s only one.
I also read this article about Mrs Loudon http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/cadbury-heiress-felicity-loudon-seeks-sweet-revenge-on-kraft-7720690.html
All this talk about chocolate! There is something that lies heavy on my heart, the disappointment has never left me! Once upon a time, I was a happy girl feasting on the most delicious chocolate ever: Lindt Excellence Walnut. In an obvious moment of madness, someone decided to discontinue this very product. I nearly got a heart attack out of rage when the shopkeeper told me that they no longer sold the bar. Why, oh why? What a cruel world to deny me this pleasure! So, I scoured all shops in my vicinity for the beloved treat. Alas, chocolate does not last long in my household! 😀 The withdrawal symptoms were brutal, especially as there is *nothing* that compares to it. And to my knowledge, they have not brought it back on the market :’-(
Small pieces of walnut, caramelised for that lovely crunch, covered with finest milk chocolate… hmmm! Since you are related to chocolatiers, and your half-mad uncle is interested in developing new flavours -the barbecue scene comes to mind- you might suggest ‘walnut milk chocolate’. Pecan nuts might work just as well, perhaps even better! You could pass it off as your own idea, I would not mind. I’d only care about the result: the chocolate bar in my hands! 😀
On the contrary, NA, not publishing our comments would be admitting there is something true about it. By publishing them he can bluff. Anyway, maybe we will know his real identity one day, or maybe we won’t. At the end, it does not matter what his real name is but what he writes about, right?
LOU
Correct. What he provides in words that dance off of his fingers and tongue and into my soul, and that enlighten my brain is all I have evr cared about. Not his identity or his coping mechanisms. He does what he does. I can choose to participate and at what level. My choice. Always my choice.
Thanks HG. I know animals don’t give emotional attention/reactions (at least not in the way a human does), but I thought that they could give a certain feeling of power. However, when I think of all the narcissists I know, none of them is interested in animals. Indeed.
Thanks again for your answer.
Sometimes I wish I were a fly sitting on your computer and could see your reactions when you read our comments HG.
I would seat very still so that you did not squash me.
I daresay you do Lou.
I envisage a mixture of head scratching, interested contemplation, laughter, banging head against keyboard and incredulity.
Or perhaps just a permanent look or boredom.
I say permanent look of boredom. Since Mr. Tudor does not go through a vast array of emotions and we do not have the power to evoke his fury, I picture indifference.
Odd. That is exactly how I feel right now in my life.
Me too. Safer with walls and boundaries in place. There are more sharks in the water; island of isolation is lonely but safe.
The narc only comes so close. Then, he will act aloof or be consumed with work at his beck and call. Then, if I act indifferent towards him, he will talk more, come over and hug me. But, he determines how fast or slow the relationship moves. I got tired of that after 2 years. For 2 months now, I don’t encourage anything. I act as if I am not phased by his conduct. Funny, he has been nicer, and he hugs me, even though I broke off our personal relationship. We live and work together. We use to hang out as friends, but now I am the one who is deciding….
Oh but we can!
There is a website dicksbymail. Run dont walk there. For $15 you can anonymously send a bag of edinle dicks that says eat a bag of dicks. I suggest sending it to the workplace but thats just me. Yes I’m serious!!!
HG. you must add this to the list in your revenge book.
Are they cream filled?
Ah – they are gummy – suitably soft then! Limp dicks for limp dicks
FLICK
I wish you could send banana Jello puddin pops.
Ha ha ha ha ha!! (Laughing at your comment below because I can’t reply to it.)
NA – gotta say – they sound revolting! Cream filled chocolate dicks would be good! I’d send some to myself!
FLICKA
Well Jesus Flick, theyre not for US to be snacking on!
Picture them with a soft yellow limp pudding pop and them reading the card: Thinking of our nights together. No signature if course-make them guess.
NA you are hell on my imaginary
I was hungry when I posted that! I just fixated on food.
NA,
I must share since you brought this up…
I have seen that company.
Last July, 2 days before the anniversary of when JN pulled his most hurtful stunt that pretty much led me here, I got an email from that company for a 4th of July sale. I NEVER joined their email list.
I forwarded it to HG. He said it had JN written all over it.
Oh yes, they love to do that!
It was actually kind of comical.
MLA
I find the humour in it but lots wouldnt and I guess the timing matters. Did you find it comical at the time or was it still too fresh? In any case, you can laugh at it now and thats good. I actually admire if someone can “get” me with something like that-it shows me theyre thinking of me and it requires some effort lol-ups my game. Im thinking of setting up a foundation to subsidize those who want to send but cant afford to. Lets face it-Its just in me to give.
Most definitely timing matters on this. lol This is something you have to be patient and methodical and send several months or a year or two after an event. Not right on the heels of something happening.
I actually saw this company through a friend’s post on FB around April Fool’s Day last year, so I had clicked on the website with my co-worker for some laughs.
To have just received a harmless email solicitation (not a package), I did find amusing when that came in early July. I know I never signed up for their email promotions. And the fact I didn’t get any solicitations from them when I first found their website, connected the dots that JN was pranking / prompting me to react. Which I did, because, well, I always have some pent up frustration I can send his way and he clearly wanted to tussle.
Would I ever send anonymous gummy dicks to someone? That particular gift option is not to my taste. What appealed to me was their other gift option to send an anonymous glitter bomb. When a package is opened a spring form release (or something) pops a box of gold or colored glitter all over the room. That is where you’ll have someone questioning for a couple years after when they’re still seeing glitter in their home or office, “Was this that GD Clarece still lingering with her glitter?” That’s the one with the real staying power and revenge.
Throwing your happiness around like glitter only for real. Narcs everywhere pissed off about glitter in berber carpet. I like that. *MLAC in fairy costume bag o’ glitter in hand, throws everywhere*
MLA
Glitter IS the gift that keeps on giving lol, but you may want to consider……………
Glitter at a later date=sixth sphere
trigger=hoover
Oh hi JN, whats brings you here?
But what a great reason to rip into him for coming against my character after x amount of months following no contact? (Got to make it that long first. #Narcgoals). Oh the fun to tell him to think about the list of other hurt millenials by him that would stoop to this. I like to make people feel happy like there’s a glitter bomb exploding inside of them. Not a disaster of a mess outside of them.
I’ve seen this!
I KNEW this one would be pertinent, just seeing the number before the truth showed itself.