Big Little Lies


Big Little Lies – Your chance to apply your HGT University learning!

Back in 2017, HBO screened ‘Big Little Lies’ starring Nicole Kidman, Reese Witherspoon, Laura Dern, Alexander Skarsgard amongst others in a television drama set in and around Monterey, California. A second series is currently showing. You may have seen it and/or are watching it. If not, I recommend you do so since it is well written but primarily because it contains a host of narcissists and empaths and is a very good condensed array of behaviours and characteristics which are explained and detailed through my work. Assessing these through on-screen activity will aid your continued understanding and march to freedom.

Here is an opportunity for you to determine, using your newly-honed skills from The HG Tudor University, which characters are the narcissists and which are the empaths and which school and cadre do they belong to. Perhaps you see individuals who are normal, narcissistic or empathic rather than empath or narcissist, let’s see how much you have learned.

There will be daily polls with regard to each character for you to vote on and for you to argue your case.

And yes, I will at the end tell you my assessment of those characters.

So, fingers at the ready, trait detecting skills activated and let’s put the characters of Big Little Lies under the Tudorscope!

343 thoughts on “Big Little Lies

  1. WokeAF says:

    Ok this is one I’m confused on
    If I’m dismissing my ET and projection

    I still see what I would imagine is a geyser but I don’t know any geysers to compare to …So ??

    She has high narc traits but I don’t see manipulations.
    AND she’s married to a narc

    Confusing . If I’m not super imposing empathy into her ??

    I’m gonna go narcissistic but not a narc .
    I think.

  2. toyinakodutv says:


  3. WokeAF says:

    In the interest of education, would anyone like to add their school and cadre as a sub-thread, for those of us trying to learn them?

    Just for total clarity, can you say whether this has been determined in a consultation with HG- or if it’s your own self-diagnosis

    I am Standard empath, magnet cadre,
    HG-certified as such

    Look forward to this! Thx

    1. MB says:

      Standard Carrier (per Tudorscope)

    2. Presque Vu says:

      No idea! Still think I’m a mid-range narc!!

      1. WokeAF says:

        No way josé! My Tudor declares that said school of narc would nvr seriously consider that they were such

      2. alexissmith2016 says:

        We’ve all been there PV! It’s a totally normal process to go through. But if you think that you’e probably not. Do you feel guilt if someone else has been hurt by you? Not self pity as in what loss you’re experiencing from whatever you’ve done. e.g. if you’ve cheated on them and they’ve left you and now your lonely and you’re just feeling sorry for yourself and want them back so you’re not alone anymore. But if you’ve cheated on them and they’ve left you or not and you feel sick and terrible about the pain you’ve inflicted on them and you feel deserving of any punishment they may dole out that’s different. Cheating is just an obvious example of course, but it could be anything bad.

        If you experience genuine guilt and compassion for the other person you’re not an N.

        Take the test with HG and find out. It really does help solidify any suspicions/doubts you’ve had and makes sense of what you are and why your behavior follows certain patterns. It helps give real clarity of thought about yourself.

    3. nunya biz says:

      WokeAF, Per HG, I am Super (dominant school) and mostly Carrier (not completely dominant). MB and Woke, did you guys get additional schools and cadres listed at the time of your detector?
      Additional mentions for me are Standard, Contagion and Savior in relatively high percentages and then some Magnet, Martyr and Geyser thrown in in smaller amounts.

      1. WokeAF says:

        Yeah but I forget what . At first he wasn’t sure if I was super or not but eventually settled on Standard Magnet ,DEMB for selfish streak (as s DLS)
        Didn’t see contagion or saviour or geyser
        I think maybe I might’ve had some carrier.
        I fully identify w magnet anyhow

        What is martyr ?

      2. WokeAF says:

        Course this was like a year and a half ago so maybe the consults are different now or more expansive

        1. nunya biz says:

          Woke. Yes I figured he changed it. I think this thinking is helping me solidify my character observations.
          Martyr I assume would be related to offering oneself up for a cause, feeling the pain has value in changing something?

      3. MB says:

        I don’t know how much HG is comfortable with us sharing. Those comments the other week about saying too much about consultations made me nervous. I got a pie chart showing the percentages that make up my empath pie though.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          You may share the outcomes if you wish, it is personal information pertaining to me that should not be disclosed. I don’t do it, i expect those who consult to abide by the terms too.

          1. MB says:

            I don’t think I’ve ever done that. If I am ever out of line, I hope you would correct me.

          2. HG Tudor says:

            You have not done so.

          3. MB says:

            Thank you for that HG. I wouldn’t want to displease you of all people!

          4. Lorelei says:

            I have the best gravatar ever replacing my toe! 5 days left HG! God I hope. (And I’m not relying on it..)

          5. HG Tudor says:

            It is an entertaining gravatar.

        2. Lorelei says:

          MB—where is this thread or the basics of what was communicated?

          1. MB says:

            I don’t remember Lorelei.

          2. K says:

            This may be the thread.

            HG Tudor says:
            July 3, 2019 at 19:11
            You have nothing to be concerned about NB.
            I do not have an issue with those who have consulted sharing knowledge e.g. their cadre from an empath detector consultation or what school and cadre the narcissist is. It is not an issue if they want to share the information provided to them which has been helpful, say for a friend, to recommend my work to that friend. There is no issue with knowledge sharing, it is the sharing of personal information which is the breach.


          3. K says:

            I like this comment.

            HG Tudor says:
            July 3, 2019 at 10:45
            Hello Lou,

            I cannot disclose the content of where my discussion with Desiree ended as it is covered by the confidentiality terms of the protocol for the consultations. I take the obligation of confidentiality very seriously, it is unfortunate that certain individuals fail to do so (not aimed at you Lou or Desiree).
            It is possible but I can only discuss the same with you or anybody else through an audio consultation as th issue of emotional thinking must be addressed and assessed first.

      4. MB says:

        Nunya Biz, Since I’ve gotten the go ahead: I’m 60% standard, 17% co-d, 15% super, and 8% contagion

        60% carrier, 25% martyr, 8% magnet, and 7% geyser

        So…Standard Carrier is my official label based on my prevailing traits but that doesn’t tell the whole story as you can see. A whole range of behaviors is studied. It’s quite comprehensive. From what I understand, it may be even more so now. I was one of the first (I think?) I’m always willing to be a guinea pig for HG’s new stuff.

        That Tudorscope is laser accurate! I hope you have good insurance on it HG!

        1. WokeAF says:

          Ooh! Yes that is rather expanded, percentages and such

          1. MB says:

            HG is da bomb. It’s amazing the things he can see/hear/know from the information provided to him in consultations. (I hope that’s ok to say!)

        2. nunya biz says:

          Thank you for sharing, MB! I think the chart is very interesting. It gives me a lot to think about.

          1. MB says:

            NB, it’s well worth doing the Empath Detector if you haven’t.

            Oh, and 23 and Me says I’m 60% British & Irish too. And 20% Broadly Northwestern European. (Whatever that means) All kinds of MB stats coming your way today!

          2. nunya biz says:

            I did it MB, I posted it on this thread.
            And apparently I’m mainly German, Irish, English, French or whatever. I feel sure there must be other stuff in there. They are still tuning these things I think, my impression is it’s far from precise. It even told me I’m less likely to be agreeable. I told my husband I disagree with that and he laughed at me.

        3. Lorelei says:

          I’m only mildly convinced I’m not just a random asshole on most days..

          1. nunya biz says:

            Lorelei, I’ve always thought a little humble self-deprecation is a good thing, and I partake for sure. I think HG calls it “self-flagellation” : )

          2. WokeAF says:

            Lorelei – I think empaths can be assholes.

    4. alexissmith2016 says:

      Magnet SE – HG’s seal of approval!

      I met someone I believe to be a geyser (probably CD) the other day (and geyser to the nth degree) – lovely lady but jees I felt like I’d been put in a washing machine on a superfast spin lol It was almost as though someone had injected her with truth serum too. I’ve not had much experience of geysers, I now see why HG says Ns grow tired of their fuel very quickly, it’s so out there!

      1. nunya biz says:

        That is a funny visual about the washing machine.

        1. alexissmith2016 says:

          Lool Cheers NB! She was truly adorable and was pretty magnetic in her own right too. Although I suspect it not CD pretty reliant on others. I would imagine a very popular person. I’d love to be able to help her keep her emotions in check because I suspect she is a total magnet for narcs

          1. nunya biz says:

            I wish I was more geyser, I like the idea of that energy : ). She sounds interesting!

          2. alexissmith2016 says:

            I think it must actually be pretty emotionally painful to be a geyser, whether your either feeling positive or negative emotions when they reach the top at both ends, it must be quite hard for them.

            There are other sources of energy which are far less painful, I would imagine?

          3. nunya biz says:

            Oh that makes sense, alexis. I hadn’t thought about it that way. I have not identified this type of person.

          4. alexissmith2016 says:

            It’s only my perception NB of what it must be like. I could be wrong. HG is the master of perception.

    5. Desirée says:

      Per Tudorscope: Geyser Empath with strong Super Empath Minority Element and Strong Magnet Element. I feel like having all of the minority elements taken into consideration is incredibly helpful. Otherwise, reading the Geyser Profile for example would just have left me thinking “Yes, BUT!”. Different parts of our personality come forward in different situations and it truly helps to have them adressed in this test. I took it last May, so I don’t know how that test would have changed over the past year. After reading your response, I would be curious however, if this is something that would slightly shift over the course of a year. Although I doubt there would be a significant change in anyones test results.

  4. WokeAF says:

    Anyone wonder if Jane actually did engineer this whole thing? I mean – what ARE the chances she’d move to the town of, put her kid in the class of, become friends with – her rapist, & his family & friends? Mary Louise does have a point as she’s pretty friggin perceptive

    1. WokeAF says:

      I also can’t get a read on Jane.

    2. alexissmith2016 says:

      hmmmmm I don’t believe she schemed the whole thing, its just an unlikely plot to create good tv.

      I’m pretty sure Jane is an empath

      1. WokeAF says:

        Yes I thought so too …but somethings up

      2. WokeAF says:

        Like when she went to Mary Loiuse’s Door and demanded she stop the custody battle
        There was an air of….familiarity. There. I got a sudden idea maybe they had been in touch more than we know. I dunno.

        1. Sweetest Perfection says:

          I kept clicking and clicking to move to the next episode until I realized the season was over! It left us there JUST LIKE THAT???? It can’t be true.

        2. nunya biz says:

          I go back to the scene where ML shows up at Jane’s work to discuss paternity and that was a scene with no other characters and in third person viewpoint, so I don’t think they knew each other.

  5. Alexissmith2016 says:

    HG, is the writer of big little lies one of ours or one of yours?

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Do you mean the author or the screenwriter?

      1. alexissmith2016 says:

        I’ve not read the book to compare the two so lets go with screenwriter please.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          I do not know enough about David E Kelley to advance a firm assessment. Based on what I have seen however, an interim view would be that he is one of our kind.

      2. alexissmith2016 says:

        Oh crap! Just googled him! He has to be an UGN elite! No wonder Celeste had so many sexual encounters! blimey!

        Please correct me if I’m wrong HG

        And the author therefore….. she looks like one of ours? But that is only a guess from one pic?

        Your opinion as always is very much valued. My brain is a bit scrambled, yours is so perfectly precise about everything!

        So yes please, screenwriter and author if I may

        I feel I must read the book now to see how different it might be. Would you recommend? 🙏

        1. alexissmith2016 says:

          erm cheers!

          okay well, I’m going do one of two things now!

          either assume I’m correct based on your lack of response hahahhah


          simply add it to my ever growing list (you know the list I’m referring to)

          Potentially both. although if I do both, that would mean rather than making an assumption based on your lack of response, it would be more like, just assuming I’m just correct.

  6. WokeAF says:

    I’m so excited for Celeste to be able to get Mary Louise up on the stand! I’m hope she asks what happened to her other son because I’m pretty sure there’s a story there That would make her unfit as a caregiver

    1. MB says:

      WAF, I thought the same. Could be a story around her husband’s death too.

  7. K says:

    S2:E6 The Bad Mother

    Where do I begin.

    1. I think Gordon is a narcissist (stress management…ha ha ha).
    2. Holy shit, Celeste was busy getting jiggy with all those men, WTF!
    3. Mary Louise had a shit eating grin on her face after she closed the door on Jane’s melt down (she was having a fuelgasm).
    4. I think Bonnie is a Standard Empath.
    5. I hate Detective Adrienne Quinlan. Perry’s death was a defensive act.
    6. Nathan busted Ed talking to Tori.
    7. Celeste got it together at the end.

    Looking forward to next week’s show.

    1. MB says:

      Just when we thought Gordon could get no more slimy, there comes to light “other services rendered”.

      K, or anyone: I’m not sure what *exactly* slimy things Gordon did you get himself arrested and put them in bankruptcy. Somebody on here said gambling, but with the feds involved…I thought I heard “securities fraud”. He was arrested in such a flurry of activity, I really don’t know what he did. (Whatever it is, he’s guilty AF.)
      Any help is appreciated. (Truth seeker here. 🙋‍♀️)

      1. K says:

        If I remember correctly, Gordon had inside information and shorted the stock and lost tons of money so he was arrested for securities fraud.

  8. alexissmith2016 says:

    Stewardess…I know I am ugly and you are beautiful, but please help us

    Stewardess, please help us!!

    Where’s our daily fix HG?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!god damn it!

  9. Chihuahuamum says:

    I hope you do more series or movie discussions in relation to ndp HG. This was a lot of fun! I think bc you see it in action.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      I am pleased you have found it useful.

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