Narcissist Vs Appliances
This article provides you with the analysis of an interaction between a Somatic Lower Mid-Range Narcissist and three Standard Empaths (one from the Magnet Cadre the other two from the Carrier Cadre). The emphasis is not about the schools and cadres of the participants (although the flavour will be evident) but rather on demonstrating the nature of the interaction and how the narcissist regards the two.
The narcissist has a co-habiting partner (Carrier Standard Empath)and thus this person is an Intimate Partner Primary Source (“IPPS”) in devaluation. They have been in a Formal Relationship of partners for two years. Devaluation commenced one year ago.
The Candidate Intimate Partner Secondary Source (“CANIPSS” – Standard Magnet Empath) lives in the same city as the narcissist. She is single. They met on a dating site. They have met in person and known one another three weeks. The Formal Relationship is narcissist and CANIPSS, early dating.
The Shelf Intimate Partner Secondary Source (“SIPSS” – Standard Carrier Empath) also lives in the same city as the narcissist and the CANIPSS. She is single and met the narcissist on the same dating site. They have met several times and have known one another for two months. The Formal Relationship is narcissist and SIPSS, established dating. The SIPSS is viewed as white and is currently on the shelf.
The narcissist awakes and immediately thinks about the CANIPSS. This is a Hoover Trigger (“HT”). She is viewed as white, he has her telephone number, they are friends on social media sites, the Hoover Execution Criteria are easily met and therefore he issues a hoover by sending a text message. Note that a hoover occurs as part of seduction.
“Hi, dreamt about you last night, better not say though, you might get too carried away before work.”
The CANIPSS answers within seconds by text.
“Wow, I like that, go on, you can tell me.” Positive fuel, potency high as CANIPSS, quantity low (written message) and one-off frequency.
Pleased by the effect of the fuel and the rapid response (signalling to the narcissist that the CANIPSS is coming under his control) he replies
“Let’s just say we both enjoyed it. Would be even better in person.”
The CANIPSS again responds in seconds by text.
“You think so? You sound pretty confident, I am no pushover you know, lol.” Positive challenge fuel (potency et al as before).
The narcissist whilst challenged by this text sees it as an opportunity to assert his perceived superiority but in a benign way.
“Of course. I know what I am doing. You will have to let me find out.”
The CANIPSS again responds in seconds.
“I might just do that. Did you have anything in mind?” Positive fuel (potency et al as prior)
The narcissist is buoyed by the fuel but moreover identifies that the CANIPSS is clearly interested and thus his control is slowly increasing. He responds quickly by text.
“How about I take you out for dinner tonight?”
A text arrives from the SIPPS.
“Hi, how are you? I was just thinking about last week and how much we enjoyed that new Thai place. How about we go again? I am free tonight or tomorrow.” Positive fuel, potency high (as SIPSS), quantity low as written word, frequency one off.
The narcissist does not respond however, even though the SIPSS is viewed as white. She is on the shelf and he is focussed on the CANIPSS as he impatiently awaits her response to his suggestion.
The CANIPSS texts back.
“I cannot do tonight. I have something on.”
This rejection wounds the narcissist. It is only mild in nature however as it is by text. He is slightly irritated by this but as he is in the seduction period with the CANIPSS and therefore she is viewed in a white manner he maintains his control so the ignited fury does not manifest. He replies by text to the CANIPSS.
“How about tomorrow night?”
Just then the IPPS (the cohab partner) appears at the bedroom door. She is in devaluation and is viewed as black.
“On the ‘phone again are we? You are never off it, I swear it’s welded to your hand.” she says with a frown and a shake of her head. Negative Challenge Fuel. Very high potency (IPPS), significant quantity (in presence, spoken word, tone, body language, facial expression), frequency one off.
This is negative Challenge Fuel. She demonstrates irritation and annoyance. It is a Challenge because she is ‘attacking’ the narcissist’s right to use the ‘phone when he chooses. Also because it suggests that he is not doing something right because he is on the ‘phone. The narcissist is not concerned that he is texting another woman and his partner has caught him on the ‘phone (albeit she does not know what who he is interacting with) but rather it is the Challenge as described which has to be addressed.
“Yes I am because someone has to work hard and bring the money in to pay for you and your wretched wardrobe haven’t they?” he responds with a provocative comment designed to draw further negative fuel but moreover to stamp on the challenge issued by the IPPS.
The IPPS puts her hands on her hips (negative fuel, very high potency, moderate quantity – presence, facial expression, body language, frequency one off.
“Yeah, you know what I am talking about.” goads the narcissist with another provocative remark. As he says this, he texts the CANIPSS again.
“I know this really good Thai restaurant which you will love, my treat naturally.” (Of course this is the same Thai restaurant that the narcissist went to with the SIPPS evidencing his lack of distinction between the people he is engaging with as they are appliances to him.)
Rather than wait for her response barely a minute after suggesting the restaurant, his lack of boundary recognition and sense of entitlement causes him to send this text. Further, the black view he has of the IPPS remains a stark contrast to the white view taken of the CANIPSS. In his mind the IPPS is a traitor, the CANIPSS the increasingly loyal saviour.
“Oh and you never buy any clothes do you?” retorts the IPPS in annoyance. Negative Challenge Fuel, very high potency, significant quantity (presence, spoken word, tone, facial expression, boy language) , frequency one off. Challenge since the IPPS is suggesting that he is a hypocrite.
“I can buy what I like you money-grabbing ungrateful bitch, I earn it.” The narcissist increases the provocation with a gratuitous insult designed to garner more fuel but mainly to establish superiority again.
“Oh and I suppose I do nothing other than run the house and do a job do I? Anyway, I haven’t got time for this, I will see you at 1pm for lunch right?”
This is negative Challenge Fuel because she is suggesting the narcissist is ungrateful and does not do as much as she does (therefore she is superior) and furthermore she is trying to close down the discussion by having the last word which also challenges the narcissist’s notion of superiority. As she says this a text arrives from the CANIPSS.
“Yes, tomorrow would be great, I will be free at 8pm, let me know the name of the restaurant, I cannot wait and if you are good you can come back for coffee afterwards.”
Positive fuel, high potency, low quantity and one-off frequency. The narcissist’s control is increasing.
“Excellent. Cannot wait. Wear something hot, that blue dress really suits you.” he texts back.
His prescriptive nature about telling the CANIPSS what to wear evidences his sense of entitlement and increasing ownership of the appliance that she is to him. He also, owing to this sense of entitlement and lack of accountability sees nothing wrong with doing this and making the IPPS wait for him to respond. She stands waiting, glaring, providing further negative fuel. Her Challenge to him has still not been dealt wth. The narcissist is edified by the positive fuel from the SIPSS, more positive fuel from the CANIPSS but especially from the negative fuel from the IPPS. His day has started very well indeed and it is only 7-30 am.
“Oh I cannot make it, I have to go through the pitch with Ian.” answers the narcissist. This is a lie however his lack of conscience means he has no issue with stating this to the IPPS.
“You haven’t mentioned that before, well tell him you cannot do it,” responds the IPPS in irritation. Negative Challenge Fuel (telling the narcissist what to do), very high potency, significant quantity, one-off frequency.
The narcissist is under attack again and his verbal responses have failed to assert superiority as required. He has no fuel problem however. Since he has been accused of not telling the IPPS something he responds verbally
“Yes I did, I told you yesterday, but you do not listen, you never do, too caught up in yourself.” He issues a denial against her accusation of not having told her about the engagement with Ian which is part of the Narcissist’s First Line of Defence (see the article The Narcissist’s Twin Lines of Defence). He is also seeking to stamp out her challenge by shifting the tack of the discussion (an instinctive response) through the manipulation of Projection by accusing her of the very thing he does.
“No you didn’t. you did not say anything,” she says in annoyance. Again Challenge Fuel of a negative variety. Potency et al remains the same.
The narcissist shifts manipulation (instinctively) again by ignoring her. Present Silent Treatment. Her status as viewed black causes him to think of asserting his superiority further even though she IPPS will not know what he is doing, in his mind, he is gaining superiority through this next act.
The narcissist texts the SIPSS.
“Hi, good to hear from you, I was just about to text you when you texted me.” (A lie but it will make the SIPPS feel wanted).
“How about lunch today at 1pm? My treat. The Thai restaurant is open at lunch as well.”
(Note the second offer to buy a meal for someone outside of his relationship – a somatic gesture of generosity)
The IPPS stands waiting for an answer. She is still providing negative fuel from her stance, frown and glaring eyes. The narcissist continues to ignore her maintaining the Present Silent Treatment.
The SIPSS replies by text
“Yeah, great, I did have something on at 12-30 but I can move it for you (Carrier Empath – poor boundary assertion) I will meet you at 1pm, cannot wait.”
The SIPSS is on the shelf still (short exchange) but will be taken off the shelf for the lunch appointment – assuming the narcissist attends. He may not if circumstance dictates this benefits him. She remains viewed white.
Her text is positive fuel of high potency, low quantity and one-off frequency.
“Oh forget it!” hisses the IPPS he remains ignored as the narcissist starts flicking through a set of pictures he has exchanged with the SIPPS which gives him a small amount of Thought Fuel alongside the negative fuel that the IPPS continues to pump out as she is ignored and annoyed.
The IPPS storms off and slams the front door leaving the property. This last act provides another does of negative fuel because it is an annoyed gesture. The well-fuelled narcissist smiles and finally rises from his bed. It is only 7-37 am and his day has begun rather well for him.
IPPS remains in devaluation and painted black.
Candidate IPSS is prime candidate in seduction, painted white and the narcissist will repeatedly hoover her during the day in a benign way, ahead of their date tomorrow night.
SIPPS is on shelf until lunchtime, painted white and ranking behind the Candidate IPSS still.. with no prospect of any immediate shift in that status.
15 thoughts on “Narcissist Vs Appliances”
The book Fuel is integral in understanding these interactions. I highly recommend all Tudorites read it.
re the following: “(…)and therefore he issues a hoover by sending a text message. Note that a hoover occurs as part of seduction.” , and: “(…)and the narcissist will repeatedly hoover her during the day in a benign way”
1) I don’t understand this. Why is it classified as a hoover, while they are dating and texting everyday?
2) Is it classified a hoover with every IPSS?
3) If in this example the N texts the IPPS after her leaving and slamming the door this morning, would this also qualify as a hoover?
1. It is a hoover because it is a form of activity which is inherently designed to assert control and gain fuel. Each text is a hoover. Each date is a hoover.
“1. It is a hoover because it is a form of activity which is inherently designed to assert control and gain fuel. Each text is a hoover. Each date is a hoover.
Thank you Mr Tudor,
for all those years I have thought wrongly a hoover was only post discard or post escape. Where can I learn more about this? Manipulated? The Devil’s Toolkit?
It sounds exhausting. What does the “one off frequency” mean?
A text message or an email, for example.
Dear HG, I absolutely love this work. I love your work that explains the interactions between the Narcissist and others. It’s informative and funny.
“It is only 7-37 am and his day has begun rather well for him.” Haha, HG.
I would’ve never known that Narcissists like Negative fuel haha.
Reading how they operate HG, is so helpful. Especially in making it feel less personal. It’s the feeling of worthlessness that binds me.
It would be good if this scene was acted out!
Hi Whitney, I am sorry you are feeling a sense of worthlessness; nothing could be further from the truth. You are worth everything. Have you felt this way always or only after your N engagement?
Thank you FYC, what a wonderful person you are!
I always felt worthy, thank you so much. Being second best (triangulation) made me feel worthless. It binds me because I believe they love the other woman, and that they are capible of loving. Just not me. Yet I love them. I picture them with the other woman and create false reality.
They all used triangulation.
I’ve been with 3 in a row. I got Narcissist Detectors for all of them 😊 LMR Somatic, UMR Elite, UMR Somatic.
Well, Whitney, that is an awful trifecta of tyranny you suffered. I am sure you know now from HG that these Ns cannot love anyone. They saw a vulnerability and used it to control and gain fuel. I have no doubt you genuinely love. But, be careful not to project your love onto these Ns. Dismiss any intrusive fears or lies about your inherent worth. When these fears/lies crop up pause and tell yourself you know with certainty that these Ns do not love *anyone* because they cannot—and you know this to be true by the highest authority on the matter, HG. So banish those old thoughts/fears immediately.
I am very happy to learn you know your worth in general. I’m equally happy you are not still with these Ns. Please know that when someone leaves you for another, whether N or not, they are doing you a favor! You don’t want them. You want the guy that truly loves and appreciates all that you are and would not even consider another. There are millions of people in the world that you don’t want too. That’s normal and a good thing. It’s more about finding what you do want and these Ns come nowhere near that mark.
Thank you so much FYC. I screenshoted your response so I can always remember it. I’m sorry for not replying, I don’t know how to be notified so I check for replies manually. You are the absolute best and I hope you stay clear from Narc scum too. You are like an angel. Thank you again 💖
Whitney, You are most welcome, and you are the sweetest! I hope you find true happiness. You deserve it. To receive notifications, just regular tic the box “Notify me of new comments via email”.