HG,
In your opinion how would the CoVid lockdown effect the different schools of narcissists? There would definitely be breaks in the fuel matrix. Do you think the creature may come up to the surface more? Would there be more hoovering or more violence? Do you think that this pandemic and forced isolation could cause narcissists to finally reflect and adjust their behaviours?
I think most people have a bit of this creature hidden in them but the narcissists festers into a gaping wound eating away at their subconscious. When you dont face your fears and past it festers and grows it never goes away. This creature is that!
Dear HG, I think Creatures must vary inside each narcissist, in intensity and the words the Creatures say.
I think an unsettled core often stems from a mother’s negative way of interacting with her child. Even within the span of 5 minutes, you can clearly notice negative patterns of interaction between a parent and child. That 5 minute interaction is repeated millions of times and leaves internal damage.
Dear HG, I’m so glad you shared The Creature. It is my favourite work of yours. I’m determined to understand you (My God) in particular. I wonder if all narcissists feel the same inside, HG.
Im not sure I should get this right now. I am struggling even trying to decide if my guy is even a narc or just misunderstood by me. If I get this I believe my ET will get in the way even more and I’ll feel sorry for this guy. I already make excuses for him. I’m thinking this might be better when my LT is stronger…
The thought that occurred to me as I listened is that the creature causes the narcissist to become a parasite. Can’t wait to learn more about this when the book comes out.
NA,
You asked “Do you (or can you) care to explain what caused your reaction?”
From the first sound of the hollowing wind, I got goosebumps and an uneasy feeling. As it went on, I almost turned it off as it was so depressing to me. It was as if I could feel the anguish in HG trying to keep the creature at bay.
I was surprised that you really did not seem to be effected at all. So many different reactions. None right or wrong……
So deep. So sorrowful. I have compassion for all narcissists but particularly for you because of all the good you are doing now. Also, because you have many gifts to offer the world; intelligence, insight, creativity, leadership. I’m sure there are more.
I read a comment you wrote on YouTube from a couple or so years ago. You said you were considering going into seclusion for a while and depriving yourself of fuel to see the results. Have you done that, or are you still considering it?
I love the wind, and I love the sound of the wind. It is one of my favorite sounds and I listen to it often.
I am fascinated by this concept HG, (in complete isolation) I hope you do get the opportunity and share with us all the outcome. I have witnessed a situation similar but not the same, in terms of complete isolation, but near complete isolation. Where the main empath in the dynamic passed away, and the second empath in line (me) stopped the supply of fuel, for a period. It was only prior to a major operation did I return, and it was in the eyes, what were clear crystal blue, now were murky greyish…absent. It was as soon as I was present that they started to change, I firmly think he was absorbing my energy, and if I hadn’t he wouldn’t have made it through the operation, he was to wounded from the loss of the main empath. After recovery, I removed myself again for a period to recover myself, and the family structure near collapsed. Loss of a long term job, infighting, etc. To which, a frenzied, malicious campaign to extract fuel began, upon innocent ppl. The normals in the family didn’t get it, nor did the other two empaths, but I did, even more so thanks to your work. I do not think you would respond entirely in this fashion, you have far greater self awareness…but the concept is almost like man walking on the moon for the first time, uncharted territory.
A narcissist in isolation sounds like a very interesting experiment. I have gone to silent meditation retreats a few times and there are always people who can’t seem to handle the silence and lack of interaction, they always seek and find ways to break those rules of the retreat. They say they like the meditation and self-examination but find the silence extremely difficult. I sometimes wondered why as, for me, it is very easy and I love that aspect of the retreats – the possibility to truly escape from a busy life and focus on the inside for a few days. It is the healthiest form of escape I have found, I engaged in more destructive ones before. For me it can be amazingly refreshing. I always thought because I am just a pretty strong introvert and introspection excites and entertains me endlessly, but perhaps some of the people who cannot tolerate that condition have the narcissistic traits that make daily quite intense interaction necessary for them to feel okay in their skin. I must say I prefer to have a bit of time each day to use the internet though even in such a retreat, without that I definitely don’t feel calm and content. Next time I attend a retreat like that I’ll pay attention to this more, observe those people a bit more.
Merry Christmas ThePolicyOfTruth🎄🙂!
You don’t have to reciprocate🙂!
It is a great pleasure to make a fellow reader smiles with HG’s help🙂👍🏻!
I live in Down Under, aka Australia:) – I have posted previously so this is not so personal information:).
Thank you AnneB! I am now on the wrong side of my mid-30s so I’m feeling a little decrepit, but growing older is a gift denied to many so I’m looking on the bright side!
Just getting ready to head out of the door to watch Star Wars. I hope it’s better than Episode 8! That was a monstrosity!
Bit of a quiet birthday this year. We recently had a family bereavement so nobody is really up for a party!
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HG I listened to this piece yesterday. I was very moved. (Not to tears, but moved nevertheless.)
You are all fighting an internal battle that the rest of us cannot even begin to imagine, and that must feel so difficult and indeed so lonely.
So whilst I don’t condone a narcissist’s behaviour, I can forgive it, even though forgiveness is not sought.
You read the piece exquisitely as usual. You ought to be on some dark adult’s version of Jackanory 😉
Remember, your perceptions of difficulty and loneliness are from your perspective. I neither find it hard nor lonely, but I appreciate your sentiments nonetheless.
Do not allow your emotional thinking to lure you down the route of compassion and pity by seeking to hijack those empathic traits.
Darkanory – seems to me that this must come to pass.
Thank you Anne, SP, and Kim! Well I can confirm that SW E.09 was definitely better than SW E.08. Okay one part was a little pointless but on the whole it was a good ending to the saga. Worth watching.
I’ve been gifted not one, not two, but THREE boxes of chocolates. What on earth am I going to do with that many chocolates? Anybody want a chocolate? *passes the boxes around*
HG that’s a fair point. I can no more feel the way you do, than you can the way we do. I shouldn’t project.
Darkanory! I love it! Quoth the great Yul Brynner as Ramses : “So let it be written… so let it be done!” 😉
Violetta to be honest I think you really need to watch 7 and 8 before 9. There’s till time though, I’m sure 9 will be on at the cinema for a while.
I tried so hard to watch Rogue One, I really did. Due to my work I know the guy who played Darth Vader in it (the body, not the voice, I clearly do not know James Earl Jones!!), so out of obligation I tried three times to watch it, but all three times I fell asleep before Darth Vader even shows up. So I just gave up.
Absolutely mind blowing article! I eagerly look forward the whole book to be published.
I was listening and so many thoughts were running though my mind – from soul dualism to Freud’s structural model of the psyche to the images of MRI scans of human brain I have seen.
I felt little empathy for the narcissist but I am much more interested to understand how exactly their brains operate, if releasing “ the creature” triggers a psychotic episode; to what extend the cessation of fuel causes a chemical imbalance in the brain.
I believe the book provides all the answers.
I have now listened and now I am even more intrigued. It has answered some questions, however, it has created many more. Like NarcAngel, I didn’t find myself becoming emotional while listening, but rather I found myself trying to imagine what causes the creature to exist in the first place, and how one psyche can contain the presence of two seemingly separate and conflicting entities, something I find difficult to relate to. I can understand contrasting moods or being in different states of mind, but having a threatening ‘creature’ is very different from that.
Thank you HG. This was fascinating. It turned my truth-seeking dial up to ten!
I dislike the floundering i do trying to write something that won’t be offensive…if i’m going to purchase the introduction i need to know:
Is it literally an introduction as in there will be more books on the same specific topic to purchase to gain full knowledge or is the introductory thorough information on the topic of the narcissistic creature?
I just finished listening and to be 100% honest, I guess I need the whole book, because I felt zero emotion either way from that, and yet many of you did. I’ll listen again.
Lorelei
Hahahaha….you poor thing!!! Too bad we weren’t in school together, it would have been so much fun! You just had to fly under the radar so you didn’t get in any trouble.
Oh that is just you then. I’ve only had sex four times with one person and I closed my eyes and was on my back. It was terrible. I only did it after reading scripture and then read more scripture following the horrible whore-like activity. I am a paragon of virtue. I only did it to populate the earth with pure children that also read scripture. It was a sacrifice.
Actually I got sent away to a school where the uniforms pissed me off and we got to go to the boys campus to ride horses. Only to ride horses.
Kim e, I hope you meant this in jest, but even then, it feels wholly inappropriate–perhaps because it has been said far too often. Absolute horse manure. NA is an empath.
FYC, If you read the string, I explain to NA I said that because of her comment regarding her reaction to the story. Of course she is an empath…sorry if I offended you!
FYC
I have interacted with Kim e a fair bit over time so I took it as humour, but I appreciate your intent of discouraging the use of labels, especially in light of recent activity/discord regarding that, and the fact that new people may not recognize our familiarity and banter.
Thank you for clarifying, NA. I was not upset with Kim e, since I suspected it was said in jest. For me though, that kind of comment is said far too often and not in jest by others, so I commented.
K: Don’t know if you read that thread, but I had a student with that kind of cataloguing mind. Of course the course director, whom I affectionately (not) refer to as “Dolores Umbridge” tried to destroy her confidence in herself with petty criticisms that ignored the real value of her research.
If I’ve put too much pressure on you to get that degree, I apologize. Just makes me puke how the Dolores Umbridges of the world are taking over academia and squeezing out the people who belong there.
Violetta
Yes, I read that thread. There’s no need to apologize; you didn’t do anything wrong and I didn’t feel pressured at all. DU was ghastly but I really liked Severus Snape. DU is pathologically envious and jealous of your student and perceived her as a threat to control, hence the malign hoovers and, sadly, talented people are often marginalized and edged out of academia by these personality types.
I like the freedom of being a volunteer school librarian because I don’t have to deal with the Dolores Umbridges and I am free to walk away at anytime.
Cathy (East of Eden) was a psychopath and I suspect Charles Trask of being an Upper Lesser Narcissist. Great book.
Thank you FYC. I think one also must remember it is a fairly bold thing to say and is never likely to end with a positive warm & fuzzy in the camp. I think discussing actual behaviors with examples is a “more fair” assertion/observation. For example, MP recently stated her husband used a word in front of their kids and told the kids they did not hear it correctly. (This is a paraphrase)
The point is—give examples. These lead to fruitful discussions about behavior. Who hasn’t told their kids they didn’t hear something? But it IS gaslighting! It was a great example.
HG, Your reading of this was very different in a way that added even more to the profound content. I am so moved by this, and look forward to the book with great anticipation. There is so much I want to ask and say, but I’ll wait for the book. This will be ground-breaking. I hope you plan to promote this book beyond the blog. It is worthy of an exclusive.
I agree 100% you have helped me so much. To Be truly FREE. I also know I need to keep learning and reading from you. The knowledge you give is such power! Truly truly grateful for all of your help this year.
It is good learning. I just listened. Thanks for the quick access. My thought is well ok—there is an emptiness that is intolerable and I have had fleeting moments of realization prior to today. I get it. I do. Am I upset for any narcissist? Not one ounce. Was it worth abusing me and my children to keep that narcissists pitcher full? Of course not. Was it worth the sexual abuse I endured growing up to keep the narcissist feeling powerful? It is illogical to suggest the abuse is warranted so the poor narcissist’s defense mechanism goes off without a hitch. Do I have empathy for the events that compel a child to feel empty in the formation stage of this condition? Of course. After that—after the “vampire” is created though—that child is gone HG. It’s over. I like you because you have and do what you are doing. For the rest though—they can Fuck off. I hold those with self awareness to a greater standard because there is a choice to modify behaviors. This is why I’ll never understand the bizarre fascination on here with super empaths. (Not the empaths themselves—those who think it’s a cool club who may be just anyone..)
Why would anyone want to be with a sparring partner with someone aware they are abusing them? This is where I get pissed off—is the self aware person abusing. My ex is a dime a dozen. He’s clueless. He will never hold any culpability for what has happened. We know this. The best I can do is ignore him and move forward. But.. I do appreciate you having stated you do see benefit from gaining your needs differently and I truly hope you treat your partner like a queen forever. It would be nice to think you have some continued growth as we do. Thank you for all that you do! And please know (for anyone) that this wasn’t a poke at empaths regardless of characteristics, etc.
Just as there are behavior commonalities among the sub-types of narcissists.. Do you see this among “empaths.” For instance, are more co-dep or more standard empaths generally sequestered into certain social sectors/fabrics of society?
Interesting. I hope you expand in the book on empaths. Can we whittle this down to next to nothing or I am I wishfully thinking? I don’t like it, it’s not good, it causes misery only.
You know I really need it gone so how does the ET go away???.. I am trying to be positive though. I’ve decided to take the children to Destin for spring break but I refuse to do a water park. I know just who can handle such a task! It won’t be me!
In don’t understand how a consult to get out when I’m well out can fix ET. You know—none of this is a positive and I still could care less what anyone thinks about this disposition being a plus. Only a very poorly constructed individual can’t get their shit together and protect their children. What I allowed in my home was unacceptable whether I was down for the count or not. Narcissists are disgusting because it’s absolutely idiotic and weak to abuse people to gain strength, but to get used to it and let my oldest daughter be bullied speaks volumes about me more so. Unbelievable.
I find the knowledge very useful but also enjoy the entertainment value! Its also great to help financially support your works. We get so much free material and not all of us get consults so this is a nice way to contribute 🙂
This is definitely something I want to see or hear but will wait for the complete book to come out. I heard things that were quite similar to the fragments you posted about The Creature here so far from some of the narcs I met before. I will be curious to see how similar indeed, also to what the psych literature says about narcissism. I will also be interested in how this compares with the void, inner restlessness and destructiveness addicts commonly describe (something I discussed a lot in the past given my own history) as there are quite a few similarities between narcissism and addiction in origin and handling.
Jesus Christ! this is the best $10 I ever spent. Not sure exactly what I feel right now to be honest. Too many conflicting emotions to clarify! A part of me wants to nurse and care for every narc and fuel them in any way that I can to stave it off for them, another part of me wants to run around and release the creatures so we all see openly how pathetic Ns truly are.
HG this must have been so incredibly difficult for you, I cannot even begin to imagine what this must be like. The creature is a greedy little fucker! The creature is the parasite! I am sorry you have to deal with this, although I know you do so proficiently.
This is so timely it is unbelievable! I saw the creature!! I literally saw the creature of an MMRN the other day. I expect this was a rare opportunity which I will never ever experience ever again, nor do I want to either. I’ve seen it once, I don’t ever want to see it again, not really. That is until I see an N hurting a fellow empath then I will want to release their creature.
This is nuts! I was in a meeting earlier, an MMRN who has been drooling over me for three years made a beeline for me. I’m at the point where I find him completely irritating and struggle to hide that even though I know it is best to do so. He spoke to me as well as the people I was sitting with. It was manageable. Then the others started having a conversation with someone who approached them, they blanked him unintentionally as they like him. He then tried desperately to talk to me, but I was so irritated by his presence that I just blanked him too and did not feel the need to engage in the other conversation or talk to him, I was quite comfortable sitting there and not talking to anyone, he on the other hand was not. He went to get up and mobilise himself as he desperately needed to be fuelled in response to my wounding of him. But due to the positioning of others and without going into too much detail he was unable to and had to remain seated where he was. The wounding compounding itself by the second! Something which a normal or empath may have been a little put out by but would have been able to shrug off, but then they wouldn’t have been drooling in the first place so I wouldn’t have ignored them anyway. He then started whistling uncontrollably whilst frantically shaking his head up and down round and round. I wish HG that I was as well read as you and able to articulate what I saw a little better.
This also explains (I think) why I’ve always had certain Ns (not all just a few, usually female) stare at me with utter contempt when I barely know them, because I didn’t fuel them when they needed fuelling and they could feel the creature surfacing and needed to make it go away.
I think the way it sounds from MB and Kim e it’s probably best that my gift card isn’t working. This time of year is tough enough and I can only imagine the heartache in this piece.
FM1T
It’s the most horrible time
Of the year
In-laws dissing our food
Cousins with attitude
Uncles pinching our rear
It’s the most horrible time
Of the year
Now that narc from the past
Wants to Hoover your ass
After years of pretending you’re dead
Just forget Santa’s elf
Give a gift to yourself
And stay No Contact like HG said
FM1T, I sorry you’re having a tough time, but I feel better that it’s not just me. I had a complete melt down last night. (I get two per year.) Then The Creature this morning nearly finished me off as it all came back on. (Although I was thrilled to have access to such good information.) I hate Christmas. It’s overwhelming which makes it not fun. The only good thing about Christmas this year is all the surprises we are getting from HG. Just paint me green and call me The Grinch. I look like the backside of hell today from being wrung out emotionally anyway. Being a narcissist has GOT to be easier than this! Is it too late to ask Santa for a new coping mechanism?
I don’t think it’s ever to late to ask Santa for anything MB. I don’t hate Christmas, in fact for years I tried to make it absolutely beautiful for my children only to have it ruined by there Father! Narc after narc throughout the years they have killed that spirit that once lived inside of me. You m sorr
Sorry MB, hit reply accidentally!
I’m sorry you are having such a tough time dear. I am saving the Creature for later this evening, I already know if it is effecting so many in this way it will be best for me to save it for when I am alone and the floodgates open up! It took years for all of my schools and Cadres to show up, but boy when they did it was like the Fourth of July of emotions! 💣💣💥💥
The good thing about Christmas for me is this Sanctuary that HG has created and also all of you. I am blessed to have so many that understands exactly what Myself and so many others on here are going through. This is truly a magical place created by our very own Christmas God and all of his Angels. 😘💞
Sometimes men are just clueless MB, regardless if they are narcissists, empaths, or normals! No I am not a man hater, far from it! I just know how they are!
Thank you FM1T. I am very fortunate to have the husband that I do. As I’ve said many times, a narcissist would mop up the floor with me. I’m right where I need to be.
Oh MB, I am so sorry to hear this. I am sending you hugs and diamond glitter everywhere. Always remember you are a wonderful gift to everyone in your life. The ‘creature’ in you is a core of lies and false beliefs. Reject that. We see who you really are, not perfect, but most kind and a pleasure. Chin up now and blow off those imposed pressures. Allow yourself more joy instead. You deserve that.
Thank FYC, you are a gem. Thank you for the hugs and especially the diamond glitter! When I get overwhelmed, these things come to light. Most of the time, I can keep it under control. All is well now. (On the surface anyway) Back to our regularly scheduled MB programming.
MB I am glad you are beginning to feel better. Just remember you are loved for all that you are, exactly as you are, by many, including all of us here. Perfect is not required; in fact perfect would be boring. You are a good soul and you are worthy. The lying creature is only a lie. See that. Believe it. I am sending daily shipments of diamond glitter so that all of your days are shiny and bright and filled with joy. No more bad days.
MB, my comments are sincere. Shipments of glitter are scheduled ongoing throughout the year. If it gets to be too much, just spread it around wherever you go.
FYC, I can tell your comments are sincere. You are using your knowledge and your Empathic Super Powers in this special place of learning and healing to leave us all better than you found us. I am good at spreading glitter wherever I go. It is my aim to leave others better than I found them as well.
MB
If someone is making problems for you, I got a shovel and no plans over Christmas (because as the saying goes – if you make plans, the word premeditated gets thrown around). Just Putting that out there…
Haha NA, I knew my seester had my back! Thank you for your generous offer, but I’m afraid the someone making problems for me IS me. I can’t blame it on anybody else. I am doing better today. I can only stuff so much, the meltdown relieves some pressure so I can stuff more I suppose. Kind of like a burp after a big meal I guess 🤣
I’m sorry you don’t like this time of year FM1T. It must be truly horrible for you if you’ve experienced an awful time and remember this every single year. Aplogies if you have described your position and I have missed it xxx
FM!T, MB,
May I join you in virtual solidarity? Also just looking to get through this time of year. I do hope to be feeling better about Xmas time in future years. Not surprisingly, the ex made the one xmas we had together an unhappy one, the xmas after that was not long after disengagement (I didn’t ‘do’ xmas that year at all).
I have difficulty with New Year too and find it overwhelming, especially if I’m emotionally off kilter (which has been the case for last few years) Take care. I am endeavoring to do that from my corner.
AnneB, “this too shall pass” one of my favorites. It has gotten me through some tough times. It is also a wonderful reminder that every moment is fleeting, so enjoy the good times as well.
FM1T,
It was hard to listen to for me. And this time of year does suck. But please consider getting it after the holidays or at least getting the book when it comes out. So much to be learned as to why HG is HG alon with the other N’s in the world. If you want you can share my balnket and kleenex!!!
Kim e thank you for offering to share your blanket and tissues. I just received a very wonderful surprise, it seems NA has purchased it for me. Of course I want to tell the world ( or at least everyone on the blog ) how amazing and kind she is! She is the best big Sista in the world!! 🥰
FM1T,
NA is a peach!!!! I have always felt that she is someone that I could contact and she would show up with a shovel if needed!!!!
Blanket and tissues as available as needed.
I agree with you Kim e! She is tough as nails on the outside, but she is as soft as a marshmallow on the inside! ( she just tries to cover it up ) I just love her to pieces!! 😘💞
I am between complete chills and tears. Will listen again wrapped tightly in a blanket with a Kleenex box at hand. Excellent HG. You definitely touch my contagion trait. I almost turned it off
Ohhhhh my goodness I’ve just received it! Claire that’s so very kind of you. I’m touched! Thank you so much!
I really want to reciprocate somehow. Are you UK based? (Don’t worry HG I won’t ask for personal details. I know the rules.)
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HG,
In your opinion how would the CoVid lockdown effect the different schools of narcissists? There would definitely be breaks in the fuel matrix. Do you think the creature may come up to the surface more? Would there be more hoovering or more violence? Do you think that this pandemic and forced isolation could cause narcissists to finally reflect and adjust their behaviours?
These excellent questions will be addressed in an article which will be released on Friday.
Whered you go HG!? Hurry back 🤗
Missing seeing all the new posts 🙂
Oh, this has a Dark Shadows feel to it. Spooky!
I think most people have a bit of this creature hidden in them but the narcissists festers into a gaping wound eating away at their subconscious. When you dont face your fears and past it festers and grows it never goes away. This creature is that!
Is it an audio file?
It is.
Dear HG, I think Creatures must vary inside each narcissist, in intensity and the words the Creatures say.
I think an unsettled core often stems from a mother’s negative way of interacting with her child. Even within the span of 5 minutes, you can clearly notice negative patterns of interaction between a parent and child. That 5 minute interaction is repeated millions of times and leaves internal damage.
But is that an article or an introduction to a book you are writing? I’m interested in reading this, whatever it is.
Listen to it and you will find out!
Dear HG, I’m so glad you shared The Creature. It is my favourite work of yours. I’m determined to understand you (My God) in particular. I wonder if all narcissists feel the same inside, HG.
Thank you.
Dear ThePolicyOfTruth,
Many happies for a wonderful day of celebrations 🥳 🎂🎈🥂💝
Luv Bubbles Xx 😘
Im not sure I should get this right now. I am struggling even trying to decide if my guy is even a narc or just misunderstood by me. If I get this I believe my ET will get in the way even more and I’ll feel sorry for this guy. I already make excuses for him. I’m thinking this might be better when my LT is stronger…
The thought that occurred to me as I listened is that the creature causes the narcissist to become a parasite. Can’t wait to learn more about this when the book comes out.
Thank you HG! Can’t wait to read more!
NA,
You asked “Do you (or can you) care to explain what caused your reaction?”
From the first sound of the hollowing wind, I got goosebumps and an uneasy feeling. As it went on, I almost turned it off as it was so depressing to me. It was as if I could feel the anguish in HG trying to keep the creature at bay.
I was surprised that you really did not seem to be effected at all. So many different reactions. None right or wrong……
Dear Mr. HG Tudor,
So deep. So sorrowful. I have compassion for all narcissists but particularly for you because of all the good you are doing now. Also, because you have many gifts to offer the world; intelligence, insight, creativity, leadership. I’m sure there are more.
I read a comment you wrote on YouTube from a couple or so years ago. You said you were considering going into seclusion for a while and depriving yourself of fuel to see the results. Have you done that, or are you still considering it?
I love the wind, and I love the sound of the wind. It is one of my favorite sounds and I listen to it often.
I have not been able to avail myself of the opportunity to do so, given the demands on my time. It is still planned.
I am fascinated by this concept HG, (in complete isolation) I hope you do get the opportunity and share with us all the outcome. I have witnessed a situation similar but not the same, in terms of complete isolation, but near complete isolation. Where the main empath in the dynamic passed away, and the second empath in line (me) stopped the supply of fuel, for a period. It was only prior to a major operation did I return, and it was in the eyes, what were clear crystal blue, now were murky greyish…absent. It was as soon as I was present that they started to change, I firmly think he was absorbing my energy, and if I hadn’t he wouldn’t have made it through the operation, he was to wounded from the loss of the main empath. After recovery, I removed myself again for a period to recover myself, and the family structure near collapsed. Loss of a long term job, infighting, etc. To which, a frenzied, malicious campaign to extract fuel began, upon innocent ppl. The normals in the family didn’t get it, nor did the other two empaths, but I did, even more so thanks to your work. I do not think you would respond entirely in this fashion, you have far greater self awareness…but the concept is almost like man walking on the moon for the first time, uncharted territory.
That’s very interesting. Are you able to reveal any of the plan; when, where, how long?
Not at this juncture.
A narcissist in isolation sounds like a very interesting experiment. I have gone to silent meditation retreats a few times and there are always people who can’t seem to handle the silence and lack of interaction, they always seek and find ways to break those rules of the retreat. They say they like the meditation and self-examination but find the silence extremely difficult. I sometimes wondered why as, for me, it is very easy and I love that aspect of the retreats – the possibility to truly escape from a busy life and focus on the inside for a few days. It is the healthiest form of escape I have found, I engaged in more destructive ones before. For me it can be amazingly refreshing. I always thought because I am just a pretty strong introvert and introspection excites and entertains me endlessly, but perhaps some of the people who cannot tolerate that condition have the narcissistic traits that make daily quite intense interaction necessary for them to feel okay in their skin. I must say I prefer to have a bit of time each day to use the internet though even in such a retreat, without that I definitely don’t feel calm and content. Next time I attend a retreat like that I’ll pay attention to this more, observe those people a bit more.
HG,
This sounds very dangerous. I’d be curious to hear your fail safe and emergency plans.
Merry Christmas ThePolicyOfTruth🎄🙂!
You don’t have to reciprocate🙂!
It is a great pleasure to make a fellow reader smiles with HG’s help🙂👍🏻!
I live in Down Under, aka Australia:) – I have posted previously so this is not so personal information:).
Cheers
Well it’s my birthday tomorrow so you have made my day. Thank you Claire xx
Happy Birthday, ThePolicyofTruth!
Thank you AnneB! I am now on the wrong side of my mid-30s so I’m feeling a little decrepit, but growing older is a gift denied to many so I’m looking on the bright side!
Just getting ready to head out of the door to watch Star Wars. I hope it’s better than Episode 8! That was a monstrosity!
Bit of a quiet birthday this year. We recently had a family bereavement so nobody is really up for a party!
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HG I listened to this piece yesterday. I was very moved. (Not to tears, but moved nevertheless.)
You are all fighting an internal battle that the rest of us cannot even begin to imagine, and that must feel so difficult and indeed so lonely.
So whilst I don’t condone a narcissist’s behaviour, I can forgive it, even though forgiveness is not sought.
You read the piece exquisitely as usual. You ought to be on some dark adult’s version of Jackanory 😉
Thank you for your sentiments TPOT.
Remember, your perceptions of difficulty and loneliness are from your perspective. I neither find it hard nor lonely, but I appreciate your sentiments nonetheless.
Do not allow your emotional thinking to lure you down the route of compassion and pity by seeking to hijack those empathic traits.
Darkanory – seems to me that this must come to pass.
I hope you have a lovely night, PolicyofTruth! p.s. I did not see the last Star Wars episode, but will see this new one at some point.
A very Merry Unbirthday, TPOT!
Please let me know if the last episode makes sense even if you haven’t seen them all. I’ve missed everything since Rogue One.
Happy birthday, Policy of Truth!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TPOT
Thank you Anne, SP, and Kim! Well I can confirm that SW E.09 was definitely better than SW E.08. Okay one part was a little pointless but on the whole it was a good ending to the saga. Worth watching.
I’ve been gifted not one, not two, but THREE boxes of chocolates. What on earth am I going to do with that many chocolates? Anybody want a chocolate? *passes the boxes around*
HG that’s a fair point. I can no more feel the way you do, than you can the way we do. I shouldn’t project.
Darkanory! I love it! Quoth the great Yul Brynner as Ramses : “So let it be written… so let it be done!” 😉
Violetta to be honest I think you really need to watch 7 and 8 before 9. There’s till time though, I’m sure 9 will be on at the cinema for a while.
I tried so hard to watch Rogue One, I really did. Due to my work I know the guy who played Darth Vader in it (the body, not the voice, I clearly do not know James Earl Jones!!), so out of obligation I tried three times to watch it, but all three times I fell asleep before Darth Vader even shows up. So I just gave up.
That’s unfortunate, Rogue One was decent.
HG I’ll have to give Rogue One another try then, as per your recommendation. I’ll attempt it when I’m not so tired!
Hg approves.
Claire, you’ve put a lovely ripple of kindness out into the world.
Absolutely mind blowing article! I eagerly look forward the whole book to be published.
I was listening and so many thoughts were running though my mind – from soul dualism to Freud’s structural model of the psyche to the images of MRI scans of human brain I have seen.
I felt little empathy for the narcissist but I am much more interested to understand how exactly their brains operate, if releasing “ the creature” triggers a psychotic episode; to what extend the cessation of fuel causes a chemical imbalance in the brain.
I believe the book provides all the answers.
Hi Claire can you tell me more about the MRI scans you’ve seen?!
I have now listened and now I am even more intrigued. It has answered some questions, however, it has created many more. Like NarcAngel, I didn’t find myself becoming emotional while listening, but rather I found myself trying to imagine what causes the creature to exist in the first place, and how one psyche can contain the presence of two seemingly separate and conflicting entities, something I find difficult to relate to. I can understand contrasting moods or being in different states of mind, but having a threatening ‘creature’ is very different from that.
Thank you HG. This was fascinating. It turned my truth-seeking dial up to ten!
I’ve purchased it and now waiting to receive the link. The Creature intrigues me a lot. I’m looking forward to this!
I missed the responses which already answered my question….please dismiss my previous text.
I dislike the floundering i do trying to write something that won’t be offensive…if i’m going to purchase the introduction i need to know:
Is it literally an introduction as in there will be more books on the same specific topic to purchase to gain full knowledge or is the introductory thorough information on the topic of the narcissistic creature?
Plmk
HG, you just keep getting better and better. Like a fine wine.
I agree. Thank you.
Thank you , but No thank you.
I just finished listening and to be 100% honest, I guess I need the whole book, because I felt zero emotion either way from that, and yet many of you did. I’ll listen again.
Your comment intrigued me NA. I’d love to learn more about you and what does heighten your senses.
Alexissmith2016
Ecstasy and Acid.
Lol K – I see you in a whole new light now! A partygoing librarian haha
alexissmith2016
Hahahaha…I used to bring coke to school and blow lines in the bathroom with my friends. Those were the days!
Lines in the bathroom at school? What??!!
K!! I went to a boring school!
Lorelei
Hahahaha….you poor thing!!! Too bad we weren’t in school together, it would have been so much fun! You just had to fly under the radar so you didn’t get in any trouble.
Goodness K—but really? I’ve only ever done that in a bedroom! Not a school bath facility! I’m impressed!
Lorelei
Catholic School, no less. Hahahaha..yes, it’s an idiom about promiscuity!!!
Oh that is just you then. I’ve only had sex four times with one person and I closed my eyes and was on my back. It was terrible. I only did it after reading scripture and then read more scripture following the horrible whore-like activity. I am a paragon of virtue. I only did it to populate the earth with pure children that also read scripture. It was a sacrifice.
Actually I got sent away to a school where the uniforms pissed me off and we got to go to the boys campus to ride horses. Only to ride horses.
Oh and did you know “to sow one’s wild oats” IS in fact, an idiom K!
K she cannot fly under the radar! She is like a bull in a china shop!! Hahaha 😘
Now that’s what I’m talking about!!
K:
Wake and bake in Jr. High. We used to get to school early for choir practice, so we often smoked during the gap.
Hahhaa so it’s Ns and the Es thst are badass
alexissmith2016
B-B-B-B-Bad to the bone!
Violetta
Hahahaha…you filthy empath! And during Choir practice, no less.
FoolMe1Time
Hahahaha…booze or drugs? I’ll hook you up!
K
I can’t blame it on either of those things. I’m fucked up all on my own.
NarcAngel
Hahahahaha….for the love of Christ, I knew that all along! The drugs just enhance your fucked-up-ness!
NarcAngel
Now, I feel detached and curious but this comment was made during my “angry stage”.
K says:
August 11, 2017 at 20:05
If I ever get my hands on the Creature, I am gonna choke the living shit out of him!
https://narcsite.com/2017/08/09/the-expanded-narcissistic-truths-no-2/
NA….OMG. The truth is out. You ARE a narc!!!!!!!!!
Kim e
What prompted you to that conclusion?
NA….Since you stated you felt no emotions after listening
Kim e
Ah. I had questions, but nothing like the emotions or reactions listed here. Do you (or can you) care to explain what caused your reaction?
Kim e, I hope you meant this in jest, but even then, it feels wholly inappropriate–perhaps because it has been said far too often. Absolute horse manure. NA is an empath.
FYC, If you read the string, I explain to NA I said that because of her comment regarding her reaction to the story. Of course she is an empath…sorry if I offended you!
Thank you for noting that fact, Kim e, I did read the thread. I just don’t like the repeated comments of that nature made here.
People can listen to things with their EE suspended, especially if they are processing analytically (i.e., “in their head”) at that moment.
FYC
I have interacted with Kim e a fair bit over time so I took it as humour, but I appreciate your intent of discouraging the use of labels, especially in light of recent activity/discord regarding that, and the fact that new people may not recognize our familiarity and banter.
Thank you for clarifying, NA. I was not upset with Kim e, since I suspected it was said in jest. For me though, that kind of comment is said far too often and not in jest by others, so I commented.
FYC
I am concerned about that as well, so I will be moderating my behavior re: the N-word.
Thank you, K. Appreciated.
You are welcome FYC.
I will stick with the Narchives.
K, you are appreciated in or out of the narchives (but you do have mad skills as the chief narchivist!).
Thank you FYC!
Hahahaha…the magic is in the fingers.
K: Don’t know if you read that thread, but I had a student with that kind of cataloguing mind. Of course the course director, whom I affectionately (not) refer to as “Dolores Umbridge” tried to destroy her confidence in herself with petty criticisms that ignored the real value of her research.
If I’ve put too much pressure on you to get that degree, I apologize. Just makes me puke how the Dolores Umbridges of the world are taking over academia and squeezing out the people who belong there.
It’s your decision where you want to be.
Violetta
Yes, I read that thread. There’s no need to apologize; you didn’t do anything wrong and I didn’t feel pressured at all. DU was ghastly but I really liked Severus Snape. DU is pathologically envious and jealous of your student and perceived her as a threat to control, hence the malign hoovers and, sadly, talented people are often marginalized and edged out of academia by these personality types.
I like the freedom of being a volunteer school librarian because I don’t have to deal with the Dolores Umbridges and I am free to walk away at anytime.
Cathy (East of Eden) was a psychopath and I suspect Charles Trask of being an Upper Lesser Narcissist. Great book.
https://narcsite.com/2019/12/13/brilliance-baloney-or-bullshit-2/
https://narcsite.com/2019/12/18/the-narcissists-understanding-and-use-of-tears-part-one-3/
Thank you FYC. I think one also must remember it is a fairly bold thing to say and is never likely to end with a positive warm & fuzzy in the camp. I think discussing actual behaviors with examples is a “more fair” assertion/observation. For example, MP recently stated her husband used a word in front of their kids and told the kids they did not hear it correctly. (This is a paraphrase)
The point is—give examples. These lead to fruitful discussions about behavior. Who hasn’t told their kids they didn’t hear something? But it IS gaslighting! It was a great example.
Kim e
Hahahahah….I had a feeling that you were kidding.
HG, Your reading of this was very different in a way that added even more to the profound content. I am so moved by this, and look forward to the book with great anticipation. There is so much I want to ask and say, but I’ll wait for the book. This will be ground-breaking. I hope you plan to promote this book beyond the blog. It is worthy of an exclusive.
Thank you FYC.
Matters of promotion across many areas will be addressed in the New Year.
Wow HG !!!!! I just got done listening. So chilling, and I cannot wait for the book. Thank you!
Thank you. I am pleased you found it interesting. It is essential listening for all affected by narcissism.
I agree 100% you have helped me so much. To Be truly FREE. I also know I need to keep learning and reading from you. The knowledge you give is such power! Truly truly grateful for all of your help this year.
‘It is essential listening for all affected by narcissism.’
Agreed.
Cannot wait for the book HG.
Truly brilliant.
x
Thank you A383.
It is good learning. I just listened. Thanks for the quick access. My thought is well ok—there is an emptiness that is intolerable and I have had fleeting moments of realization prior to today. I get it. I do. Am I upset for any narcissist? Not one ounce. Was it worth abusing me and my children to keep that narcissists pitcher full? Of course not. Was it worth the sexual abuse I endured growing up to keep the narcissist feeling powerful? It is illogical to suggest the abuse is warranted so the poor narcissist’s defense mechanism goes off without a hitch. Do I have empathy for the events that compel a child to feel empty in the formation stage of this condition? Of course. After that—after the “vampire” is created though—that child is gone HG. It’s over. I like you because you have and do what you are doing. For the rest though—they can Fuck off. I hold those with self awareness to a greater standard because there is a choice to modify behaviors. This is why I’ll never understand the bizarre fascination on here with super empaths. (Not the empaths themselves—those who think it’s a cool club who may be just anyone..)
Why would anyone want to be with a sparring partner with someone aware they are abusing them? This is where I get pissed off—is the self aware person abusing. My ex is a dime a dozen. He’s clueless. He will never hold any culpability for what has happened. We know this. The best I can do is ignore him and move forward. But.. I do appreciate you having stated you do see benefit from gaining your needs differently and I truly hope you treat your partner like a queen forever. It would be nice to think you have some continued growth as we do. Thank you for all that you do! And please know (for anyone) that this wasn’t a poke at empaths regardless of characteristics, etc.
Thank you Lorelei, you are welcome.
Just as there are behavior commonalities among the sub-types of narcissists.. Do you see this among “empaths.” For instance, are more co-dep or more standard empaths generally sequestered into certain social sectors/fabrics of society?
They are.
Interesting. I hope you expand in the book on empaths. Can we whittle this down to next to nothing or I am I wishfully thinking? I don’t like it, it’s not good, it causes misery only.
I shall expand on this Lorelei, yes.
You cannot remove your empathic traits. However you can reduce your ET which preys on those traits.
You know I really need it gone so how does the ET go away???.. I am trying to be positive though. I’ve decided to take the children to Destin for spring break but I refuse to do a water park. I know just who can handle such a task! It won’t be me!
You cannot completely eradicate ET, you reduce it to within the Safe Zone. This is what is explained through the GOSO Audio Consultation.
But I already got out and stayed out! (I promise I’m off of here in 5 min!)
In don’t understand how a consult to get out when I’m well out can fix ET. You know—none of this is a positive and I still could care less what anyone thinks about this disposition being a plus. Only a very poorly constructed individual can’t get their shit together and protect their children. What I allowed in my home was unacceptable whether I was down for the count or not. Narcissists are disgusting because it’s absolutely idiotic and weak to abuse people to gain strength, but to get used to it and let my oldest daughter be bullied speaks volumes about me more so. Unbelievable.
Dearest HG: Is this about your book that you are working on? Is it about you personally?
It relates to the material that forms the book and naturally appertains to me.
Im definitely going to purchase along with the slices as advent!
It is a feast of knowledge.
I find the knowledge very useful but also enjoy the entertainment value! Its also great to help financially support your works. We get so much free material and not all of us get consults so this is a nice way to contribute 🙂
A very fair attitude C-Mum, laudable.
Very good HG! 🙃
This is definitely something I want to see or hear but will wait for the complete book to come out. I heard things that were quite similar to the fragments you posted about The Creature here so far from some of the narcs I met before. I will be curious to see how similar indeed, also to what the psych literature says about narcissism. I will also be interested in how this compares with the void, inner restlessness and destructiveness addicts commonly describe (something I discussed a lot in the past given my own history) as there are quite a few similarities between narcissism and addiction in origin and handling.
Okay, you’ve totally got me! I need this!
HG please hurry before I go into anaphylactic shock!!!!!
Just eating these peanuts first.
Phew panic over! thanks for the adrenaline HG injecting it right now!
Jesus Christ! this is the best $10 I ever spent. Not sure exactly what I feel right now to be honest. Too many conflicting emotions to clarify! A part of me wants to nurse and care for every narc and fuel them in any way that I can to stave it off for them, another part of me wants to run around and release the creatures so we all see openly how pathetic Ns truly are.
HG this must have been so incredibly difficult for you, I cannot even begin to imagine what this must be like. The creature is a greedy little fucker! The creature is the parasite! I am sorry you have to deal with this, although I know you do so proficiently.
This is so timely it is unbelievable! I saw the creature!! I literally saw the creature of an MMRN the other day. I expect this was a rare opportunity which I will never ever experience ever again, nor do I want to either. I’ve seen it once, I don’t ever want to see it again, not really. That is until I see an N hurting a fellow empath then I will want to release their creature.
This is nuts! I was in a meeting earlier, an MMRN who has been drooling over me for three years made a beeline for me. I’m at the point where I find him completely irritating and struggle to hide that even though I know it is best to do so. He spoke to me as well as the people I was sitting with. It was manageable. Then the others started having a conversation with someone who approached them, they blanked him unintentionally as they like him. He then tried desperately to talk to me, but I was so irritated by his presence that I just blanked him too and did not feel the need to engage in the other conversation or talk to him, I was quite comfortable sitting there and not talking to anyone, he on the other hand was not. He went to get up and mobilise himself as he desperately needed to be fuelled in response to my wounding of him. But due to the positioning of others and without going into too much detail he was unable to and had to remain seated where he was. The wounding compounding itself by the second! Something which a normal or empath may have been a little put out by but would have been able to shrug off, but then they wouldn’t have been drooling in the first place so I wouldn’t have ignored them anyway. He then started whistling uncontrollably whilst frantically shaking his head up and down round and round. I wish HG that I was as well read as you and able to articulate what I saw a little better.
HG this was the creature wasn’t it?
Thank you AS2016, I am pleased you found it useful and insightful.
It will have been making its presence felt, although he would not have realised what it was.
This also explains (I think) why I’ve always had certain Ns (not all just a few, usually female) stare at me with utter contempt when I barely know them, because I didn’t fuel them when they needed fuelling and they could feel the creature surfacing and needed to make it go away.
The past few days I’ve been stunned by your revelations in comments and now this. Just when I think there’s not much more to learn.
I think the way it sounds from MB and Kim e it’s probably best that my gift card isn’t working. This time of year is tough enough and I can only imagine the heartache in this piece.
Is your gift card not working FM1T?
Was that a joke HG? I don’t handle jokes very well this time of year. I’m sorry HG.
Yes, it was a joke.
Well since it is you HG, I imagine I can handle a joke. Even if it is one of the most horrible times of the year! 💞
FM1T
It’s the most horrible time
Of the year
In-laws dissing our food
Cousins with attitude
Uncles pinching our rear
It’s the most horrible time
Of the year
(Lyrics continued):
Now that narc from the past
Wants to Hoover your ass
After years of pretending you’re dead
Just forget Santa’s elf
Give a gift to yourself
And stay No Contact like HG said
FM1T, I sorry you’re having a tough time, but I feel better that it’s not just me. I had a complete melt down last night. (I get two per year.) Then The Creature this morning nearly finished me off as it all came back on. (Although I was thrilled to have access to such good information.) I hate Christmas. It’s overwhelming which makes it not fun. The only good thing about Christmas this year is all the surprises we are getting from HG. Just paint me green and call me The Grinch. I look like the backside of hell today from being wrung out emotionally anyway. Being a narcissist has GOT to be easier than this! Is it too late to ask Santa for a new coping mechanism?
I don’t think it’s ever to late to ask Santa for anything MB. I don’t hate Christmas, in fact for years I tried to make it absolutely beautiful for my children only to have it ruined by there Father! Narc after narc throughout the years they have killed that spirit that once lived inside of me. You m sorr
Sorry MB, hit reply accidentally!
I’m sorry you are having such a tough time dear. I am saving the Creature for later this evening, I already know if it is effecting so many in this way it will be best for me to save it for when I am alone and the floodgates open up! It took years for all of my schools and Cadres to show up, but boy when they did it was like the Fourth of July of emotions! 💣💣💥💥
The good thing about Christmas for me is this Sanctuary that HG has created and also all of you. I am blessed to have so many that understands exactly what Myself and so many others on here are going through. This is truly a magical place created by our very own Christmas God and all of his Angels. 😘💞
You’re such a sweetheart FM1T. Thank you for your encouraging words. I agree that this is a magical place.
I am grateful that today has been kinder. I wish it didn’t take a meltdown for my normal husband’s empathy to wake up. I’m getting some support now.
Sometimes men are just clueless MB, regardless if they are narcissists, empaths, or normals! No I am not a man hater, far from it! I just know how they are!
I’m glad you are feeling better MB! 😘💞
Thank you FM1T. I am very fortunate to have the husband that I do. As I’ve said many times, a narcissist would mop up the floor with me. I’m right where I need to be.
Oh MB, I am so sorry to hear this. I am sending you hugs and diamond glitter everywhere. Always remember you are a wonderful gift to everyone in your life. The ‘creature’ in you is a core of lies and false beliefs. Reject that. We see who you really are, not perfect, but most kind and a pleasure. Chin up now and blow off those imposed pressures. Allow yourself more joy instead. You deserve that.
Thank FYC, you are a gem. Thank you for the hugs and especially the diamond glitter! When I get overwhelmed, these things come to light. Most of the time, I can keep it under control. All is well now. (On the surface anyway) Back to our regularly scheduled MB programming.
MB I am glad you are beginning to feel better. Just remember you are loved for all that you are, exactly as you are, by many, including all of us here. Perfect is not required; in fact perfect would be boring. You are a good soul and you are worthy. The lying creature is only a lie. See that. Believe it. I am sending daily shipments of diamond glitter so that all of your days are shiny and bright and filled with joy. No more bad days.
Thank you FYC. You are so kind and your words are comforting. Hold on, gotta get the door. UPS again. It’s my daily glitter bomb from FYC!
MB, my comments are sincere. Shipments of glitter are scheduled ongoing throughout the year. If it gets to be too much, just spread it around wherever you go.
FYC, I can tell your comments are sincere. You are using your knowledge and your Empathic Super Powers in this special place of learning and healing to leave us all better than you found us. I am good at spreading glitter wherever I go. It is my aim to leave others better than I found them as well.
And you do, MB, your heart touches us all. Thank you.
MB
If someone is making problems for you, I got a shovel and no plans over Christmas (because as the saying goes – if you make plans, the word premeditated gets thrown around). Just Putting that out there…
Hahahaha. NA you crack me up.
Haha NA, I knew my seester had my back! Thank you for your generous offer, but I’m afraid the someone making problems for me IS me. I can’t blame it on anybody else. I am doing better today. I can only stuff so much, the meltdown relieves some pressure so I can stuff more I suppose. Kind of like a burp after a big meal I guess 🤣
I’m sorry you don’t like this time of year FM1T. It must be truly horrible for you if you’ve experienced an awful time and remember this every single year. Aplogies if you have described your position and I have missed it xxx
Don’t be sorry Alexis. It just is what it is sweetie. January 2nd will be here soon!
FM!T, MB,
May I join you in virtual solidarity? Also just looking to get through this time of year. I do hope to be feeling better about Xmas time in future years. Not surprisingly, the ex made the one xmas we had together an unhappy one, the xmas after that was not long after disengagement (I didn’t ‘do’ xmas that year at all).
I have difficulty with New Year too and find it overwhelming, especially if I’m emotionally off kilter (which has been the case for last few years) Take care. I am endeavoring to do that from my corner.
Yes AnneB! The more the merrier. Misery does love company! We will get through it together. Thank you for the well wishes.
Virtual hugs M.B., this too (Dec 25 to Jan 1) shall pass.
It always passes AnneB. I’m just looking forward to January 2nd.
AnneB, “this too shall pass” one of my favorites. It has gotten me through some tough times. It is also a wonderful reminder that every moment is fleeting, so enjoy the good times as well.
Absolutely MB, it works both ways!
FM1T,
It was hard to listen to for me. And this time of year does suck. But please consider getting it after the holidays or at least getting the book when it comes out. So much to be learned as to why HG is HG alon with the other N’s in the world. If you want you can share my balnket and kleenex!!!
Kim e thank you for offering to share your blanket and tissues. I just received a very wonderful surprise, it seems NA has purchased it for me. Of course I want to tell the world ( or at least everyone on the blog ) how amazing and kind she is! She is the best big Sista in the world!! 🥰
FM1T,
NA is a peach!!!! I have always felt that she is someone that I could contact and she would show up with a shovel if needed!!!!
Blanket and tissues as available as needed.
Do you want to hide a body?
NA’s on her way
You’ll never see it anymore
She’ll make it go away
I agree with you Kim e! She is tough as nails on the outside, but she is as soft as a marshmallow on the inside! ( she just tries to cover it up ) I just love her to pieces!! 😘💞
I am between complete chills and tears. Will listen again wrapped tightly in a blanket with a Kleenex box at hand. Excellent HG. You definitely touch my contagion trait. I almost turned it off
Hg would not approve of such cessation Kim!
HG,
I finished listening with tears flowing sitting at my work desk. Good thing I am the first one in and that I did not listen on the train.
Hg approves of your dedication.
Bawling. Knife to the gut, HG. I know something very similar.
OMG. I can’t wait. Merry Christmas to me!
Will this be available still to purchase after Christmas?
Yes.
Oh good. I need this in my life, but… it’s Christmas. Mouths to feed an’ all that shizzle. On my list for post-Christmas purchasing.
May I buy another copy for TPOT, HG?
Yes, you may.
Ohhhhh my goodness I’ve just received it! Claire that’s so very kind of you. I’m touched! Thank you so much!
I really want to reciprocate somehow. Are you UK based? (Don’t worry HG I won’t ask for personal details. I know the rules.)
What a picture! Perfect of course.