Sex is such a complicated thing. I was with a non narc for a long time that had absolutely zero interest in intimacy. And my narcissist feigned intimacy decently well. Since I’ve only had two partners I’m sure I’d ever experience true and real intimacy it would feel quite nice.
My ex was terrible at sex and intimacy. I didn’t know he was a narc then, but i knew something wasn’t right. I couldnt pin it down at the time but in hindsight it was so mechanical – it was almost like he didn’t know what he was doing and he was copying the very basics – if you know what I mean.
He also regularly struggled to get an erection. Now i am no oil painting but id never had that issue with previous partners. Funnily enough he didn’t take the golden opportunity to blame me somehow for it, but rather he blamed it on his diabetes injections. He actually seemed a little conscious of the deficit – a rarity for him as i never knew what was true or not.
That being said, he liked phone sex. When we were not together he was a willing and eager participant over the phone. As we met on the internet we had phone sex before real life sex. The contrast was startling face to face. Silent, mechanical, intent on just finishing up. So weird at the time.
I watched him masturbate once and it was..i think the word was pitiful. It was like he didn’t know how to optimize or control that part of his body. It literally was like he had never done it before and was going through the motions. He did have a child from his ex partner (she killed herself i wonder why) so i knew he wasn’t totally naive.
When we split he attempted character assassination where he told a lot of our mutual friends that I had given him thrush. It was true that I had got thrush but i deliberately didnt go near him when I had it. He outright lied about me and people were believing him. I was so incensed that i agreed with him and said that I had given him thrush but it was his own fault as he went down on me and ‘came up looking like Father Christmas.’ He went absolutely mental when people started laughing about it. Yes i was humiliated but i already had been. When he was humiliated he reacted so powerfully i knew that apart from a fear of losing control and abandonment, his other achilles heel is being laughed at.
Somatics and those elites who have enough somatic traits enjoy mosty the “aaah” “yeeah”, “you´re so good”, “yes, f… me” etc. in order to feel good about themselves.
Many cerebrals or the mainly cerebral elites enjoy withholding and rejecting in order to feel superior.
Some of them do. Others would prefer to “triangulate” with Ken & Barbie……
It depends, some narcissists do enjoy sex. Afterall, it is a human basic need. It still comes down to ‘control’ and ‘fuel’ and the narcissist cadre, rather than based on the school of narcissist.
From my experience, the Lesser used it as ‘control’ to the extreme. And the MRN, well, one day he couldn’t ‘perform’ and I suppose he was mortified about it and never tried again – maybe it was my ’emotions’ that he seemed to prefer rather than sex. It was not as if I learned anything new from these guys – the MRN learned from me – apparently he never had a blow job until I did it to him – WTF? 30 plus years and no BJ?!
In my opinion, it also depends on the background (historical ‘life’ – upbringing & experiences) of the narcissist.
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Sex is such a complicated thing. I was with a non narc for a long time that had absolutely zero interest in intimacy. And my narcissist feigned intimacy decently well. Since I’ve only had two partners I’m sure I’d ever experience true and real intimacy it would feel quite nice.
My ex was terrible at sex and intimacy. I didn’t know he was a narc then, but i knew something wasn’t right. I couldnt pin it down at the time but in hindsight it was so mechanical – it was almost like he didn’t know what he was doing and he was copying the very basics – if you know what I mean.
He also regularly struggled to get an erection. Now i am no oil painting but id never had that issue with previous partners. Funnily enough he didn’t take the golden opportunity to blame me somehow for it, but rather he blamed it on his diabetes injections. He actually seemed a little conscious of the deficit – a rarity for him as i never knew what was true or not.
That being said, he liked phone sex. When we were not together he was a willing and eager participant over the phone. As we met on the internet we had phone sex before real life sex. The contrast was startling face to face. Silent, mechanical, intent on just finishing up. So weird at the time.
I watched him masturbate once and it was..i think the word was pitiful. It was like he didn’t know how to optimize or control that part of his body. It literally was like he had never done it before and was going through the motions. He did have a child from his ex partner (she killed herself i wonder why) so i knew he wasn’t totally naive.
When we split he attempted character assassination where he told a lot of our mutual friends that I had given him thrush. It was true that I had got thrush but i deliberately didnt go near him when I had it. He outright lied about me and people were believing him. I was so incensed that i agreed with him and said that I had given him thrush but it was his own fault as he went down on me and ‘came up looking like Father Christmas.’ He went absolutely mental when people started laughing about it. Yes i was humiliated but i already had been. When he was humiliated he reacted so powerfully i knew that apart from a fear of losing control and abandonment, his other achilles heel is being laughed at.
Somatics and those elites who have enough somatic traits enjoy mosty the “aaah” “yeeah”, “you´re so good”, “yes, f… me” etc. in order to feel good about themselves.
Many cerebrals or the mainly cerebral elites enjoy withholding and rejecting in order to feel superior.
Shit I wish I had my headphones with me! How did I not see this yesterday?
Alexis,
Awww do you not have them?
It’s good. It’s really good.
Ha ha xx
Haha!! Mean!! 🙂
Aggg no i didn’t and I had time on my hands too. I’m home now but will have to wait until all are in bed. I’m looking forward to this.
Definitely worth the wait. Nicely compliments sex and the narcissist, an absolute must read. It was a huge piece in the jigsaw for me.
So true !!! 😓
Thank you HG
And Merry Fuelled Festivities ! 😁
We are trojans in that regard. Hahaha.
“Taking one for team narcissist”
Happy to take one for team empath 😛
LOL to the image … “I’ll be your Barbie if you’ll be my Ken” she said.
Some of them do. Others would prefer to “triangulate” with Ken & Barbie……
It depends, some narcissists do enjoy sex. Afterall, it is a human basic need. It still comes down to ‘control’ and ‘fuel’ and the narcissist cadre, rather than based on the school of narcissist.
From my experience, the Lesser used it as ‘control’ to the extreme. And the MRN, well, one day he couldn’t ‘perform’ and I suppose he was mortified about it and never tried again – maybe it was my ’emotions’ that he seemed to prefer rather than sex. It was not as if I learned anything new from these guys – the MRN learned from me – apparently he never had a blow job until I did it to him – WTF? 30 plus years and no BJ?!
In my opinion, it also depends on the background (historical ‘life’ – upbringing & experiences) of the narcissist.
Better listen to the video.
I have done so. Thank you, HG.
30 years and no BJ!
Probably a lie, don’t you think?
Laughing….. well, it could be true.
I take it his spy goggles are on the bedside table and Ken is gagged and bound in the garage.