Narc Island : Episode 2
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I loved their responses to the appearance of the glorious narrator.
I liked Hilary’s griping at TOW and then her cheer at squeaking through. I doubt she will make it to Day 3.
I think the most interesting detail was how Madonna and Jolie both looked for attention from each other, but refused to give it to the other. Their differing responses to the glorious narrator was also fascinating. Madonna going more dig “He likes to think so” and Jolie, maybe flattery or flirting. “It’s Tudor. He does what he wants.” It’s the smile that was described that makes it seem like potential flirting, it could also be just a factual statement…I’m seeing it more as an attempt to flatter at this point.
How much is influenced by the addition of psychopathy and how much is Jolie being elite vs somatic? It seems like they both were asserting control over HG.
I wonder what activity there will be on Day 3 and what the reactions to the next departure will be, given it looks very much like it will be Clinton, and she’s not worked very hard to be popular with the tiny group.
Thank you so much, sir. Much appreciation. Looking forward to the NarcIsland: Men. I’m getting my ideas for who should vacation there together.
Hi, Dani–
Clinton was my favorite as I enjoyed the humor around the snippets of political intrigue. If she’d remained any longer there might have been some nice “suicides”. Katie Price made me want to wash. I kept waiting to take Jolie out back of that palm tree over there to film a spinoff called “Tropical Tribades”. It was all hilarious and informative. I can’t wait for the men, either. It will be fun to watch them react to HG.
Hi Allison–
I agree. It was quite humorous–all the political fun Mr. Tudor had with her book titles and comments…”why do islands?”
What I found interesting about Clinton was how she asserted control over the group via withdrawal mostly. She didn’t go seeking fuel via the direct assertion of control the way Heard, Price, and Markle were doing so almost the entire time they were being mentioned. She didn’t have trouble getting fuel, and it took a lot of provocation before she dished it out in large amounts. Katie throws it out like candy and sucks it back up. I wonder how the addition of another political narcissist like Margaret Thatcher or Kamala Harris (because this is for women) would have altered her behaviour, if at all. I would pick Thatcher because I think the conversations would be more interesting.
As a cerebral, I found her interesting. I wish she’d been around a little longer, though I have long found her dishonest, rude, and cringe. She was so different from the somatics.
Who are thinking about having on the Men’s Island? I’ve got ideas…I’ve got them, and I’m looking forward to putting them forward in time. I’m still deciding on my group of six. But I know at least half the group I want.
Tom Cruise gets my top vote so far. And Trump. If HG does that voice it will end me.
King Charles, Putin, Alec Baldwin, and Joe Biden to round out the six. I’d be willing to trade Putin for a Piers Morgan. James Corden (asshole) is out as I don’t consider him a man.
I love your mix, Allison! It will end us all! I throw in Andrew Tate as well.
But Allison…you are robbing us of Mr. Tudor’s excellent impersonation of an a***hole. (I really want to hear it).
I also very much want to hear the story of When Corden (a***hole) met HG. So much! He’s hinted that he will share it at some point.
Hi Allison and Dani,
I would love to hear HG do a Trump impression! That would be epically funny af! Xx
“It’s Tudor. He does what he wants.”
Oh I saw it as Angelina definitely wanted to confess about something, but kept a secret smiling to herself..!
Yes, Jordy! And I wondered about the name that was not announced…but impressed the art teacher…an alias of HG’s. Quite likely to my mind.
Dani, my thoughts exactly! One of our glorious narrator’s aliases is known to Angelina and she captured it in that painting!
“Look closerrrr” and what came after was just magnifique, got me rolling all over the floor. The art class is hilarious!!!
Andrew Tate–possibly. I respect your suggestion. But I don’t know how long I could stomach him being such a basic little bitch.
Actually, no. Screw that oily motherfucker.
HAha okay screw him… But imagine Tate doing his thing and Putin’s reactions!? Or Cruises!? Hm? Hm? And imagine how HG would parody him?!!!
Allison:
Agreed! But put him in the island and let HG feed him to the sharks. Lol
Allison your picks are GREAT! But I would throw in Tate and how about Jordan Peterson? Oh please do a narc island with me HG and Allison nails the choices! Don king would be funny too!
Listening to this I wondered whether Lesser Narcissists have their control threatened less often. They don’t have a facade to protect so they aren’t fielding criticism in that respect. They tend to be of lower cognitive function, so sarcasm and more subtle forms of criticism might pass unnoticed.
Money, social standing and influence will assist with control maintenance, so Upper Lessers would always fare better within the context of the Lesser school. It did make me wonder though, in general terms, if certain schools or sub schools tend to experience more threats to control than others.
Angelina v Katie Price as the last two would be interesting to listen to.
Those are valid observations Truthseeker and correct, if you have no facade to maintain then there is nothing capable of being damaged and therefore reduced threats to control. Lessers, particularly Upper Lesser, operate on “what you see is what you get” and if you fo not like it, then stuff you. They do not sweat it in the same way a Mid Range Narcissist would.
Thank you for your response and further clarification HG.
I’m wondering now if Greater Narcissists experience similar levels of threat to control as Mid Rangers, but are simply better equipped to deal with them. Broader manipulative palette, more high value lieutenants, tighter grip on ignited fury, financial firepower, larger fuel matrix etc. All of that could conceivably conceal the fact that a threat to control had taken place, when in actual fact the threats themselves are experienced at a similar rate to the Midrangers. Equal threat but better concealment.
It’s the narcissistic psychopath like Jolie who genuinely experiences fewer threats to control, because impression management is also in play?
Your observations are accurate TS.
Thank you again for your response HG, much appreciated.
Truthseeker,
I hadn’t thought of that. That was an amazing observation. I’ve been fascinated in watching the two greaters. I find them engaging (and trying to see where psychopathy is more the guide to Jolie’s behaviours), and in Episode 3, they were sitting and talking intently about something…but we don’t know what. Foreshadowing? Then their later actions…each one isolating and manipulating one of the lower echelon narcs. Makes me wonder if the plot is actually against Amber and/or Katie as opposed to being about Madonna or Angelina…It was interesting to watch the way they manipulated their targets.
I love how Mr. Tudor is keeping so firmly within the genre of “Reality” shows…
It would also be interesting to see how this group of narcissists would react if they ended up in a more “Survivor” like island program. A situation where they would likely “need” things like to build a shelter, get food, fresh water. How do narcs handle that kind of problem when everyone wants control?
Hi Dani,
Yes I think the depiction of Jolie is particularly well done. There is that extra layer of predator about her. The tone and word formulation is almost snake like as if she is just watching and waiting for the correct moment to strike. HG also has her speaking slower, she pauses more, she is calmer in feel. The calmest person in the room, the person whose movements are slower, the person who doesn’t jibber jabber but instead selects each word with purpose is the person who is in control. This is very much what we see with Jolie here.
The problem with a survivor style would be the bleating of the Midrangers. “I’m cold, tired, hungry, scared.”
“She stole my towel, blanket, eye mask.” and in Price’s case “my pink tutu! “ Did you ever see Katie Price in ‘I’m a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here!’ ? Worth a watch if not. She met and seduced one of her husbands on it, all while gadding around in a pink tutu. She was actually quite likeable in some ways. Ballsy, up for the challenges as I recall.
In general I think you might see more cementation in a survivor style show, certainly at the start. (We have seen this here with Jolie and Madonna.) The upper echelon narcs would then spy their opportunity to get rid of the less capable schools and cadres. If people are hungry or tired then paranoia might be more prevalent and we might see more smearing of ‘the one not pulling their weight / using resources / failing challenges.
It would be interesting but the bleating would rile me I think as it does with most of these survivor style shows!
Good to hear from you Dani.
Xx
Hi TS and Dani–
Interesting. I think the artificiality of the reality show format provides an excellent setting for the explication of the various schools and cadres.
Hi TS–
Sending this again in case–I got a failure, asked it to try again…but I didn’t get a confirmation.
I’m not familiar with Katie Price, beyond Mr. Tudor’s work. I would find her behaviour disgusting in person–despite it being humorous as Mr. Tudor has written her.
I liked Jolie dumbing down her language for Price. I enjoyed Madonna’s less sophisticated conversation with Amber, and I laughed out loud during it.
It would have been very interesting if Charlize Theron had been on the Island as well…two self aware narcissistic psychopaths…dealing with each other. A non-self aware would be interesting as well.
How does a psychopath who lacks self-awareness deal with the threat of a self-aware psychopath? Do they sense the danger of the self-aware? I would like to hear stories from Mr. Tudor about such a situation.
Like you I’m only vaguely familiar with the brain trust that is Katie Price. I think she might be a doctor. Or maybe an engineer? Don’t those fields require you to get your tits out?
Hi Dani,
Me too, Jolie dumbing down for Price was comical. I agree that Theron would be an interesting addition to the mix.
I have no idea in terms of psychopath on psychopath. I would assume that they spot each other quite quickly, not necessarily in terms of ‘I’m a psychopath and so is she’ but rather, they recognise that the individual is motivated similarly, will be difficult to utilise, therefore it isn’t worth investing time and energy trying to manoeuvre them.
Allison your comment cracked me up completely.
Hey Truthseeker:
I loved his take on Jolie but in real life she has publically alienated her children, stands to lose half her assets to Brad, isn’t pulling the money in, isn’t part of the UN anymore … she has a history of broken marriages, broken relations and a possible ( proven when young) eating disorder. She used to be hooked on heroin. I have also met people who know her in the business. She isn’t the cool cat portrayed. Like many psychopaths…
Hi Contagious,
I think her detachment would ensure that she really couldn’t care less.
Sounds like the woman for me.
“A situation where they would likely “need” things like to build a shelter, get food, fresh water…”
My guess is the Greaters would end up being the heroes and the helpers and educating the rest, turning the lower echelons and the public into admirers of their fortitude and skills they’d generously share and teach. Ending up being loved (and envied) and there could be either two winners or a very close draw?
Two Greaters would compete with each other but not make it obvious I’d assume.
Similar as many do at the Oscars, when losing to a rival, they clap with admiration.
Hi, Jordy–
“Similar as many do at the Oscars, when losing to a rival, they clap with admiration.”
That’s exactly the “Survivor” situation. I’ve stopped watching the Oscars because most films are regrettable garbage these days, but I do take in the clips. I love it when you can see that they’re applauding but they don’t want to. When they play nice face for the cameras but inside they’re seething with indignity. I also like it when you catch one who doesn’t use such a facade. I don’t know if Samuel L. Jackson is a narc, but when he lost for Pulp Fiction and he mouthed “Shit!” it was humorous.
When the somatic narcissists know they’re on camera, and they’re all sewn into their clothes and mainlining Ozempic it’s a gloriously tacky sight. But as with all narcissists I find it best to only take in the highlights.