A Very Royal Narcissist – Part 3

A VERY ROYAL NARCISSIST - PT 3

Previous articles regarding Meghan Markle, The Duchess of Sussex is a Very Royal Narcissist. This has been ascertained as a consequence of the examine of a pattern of repeated behaviour, over a period of time. It is this aggregate of behaviours which enables the assessment to be reached, rather than relying on just one behaviour. A sole behaviour can certainly be indicative of narcissism, but is not determinative. It is the pattern which must be examined.

Once that has been established, the behaviour thereafter of the relevant individual can be examined through the lens of narcissism, allowing its interpretation and explanation. Meghan Markle´s behaviour and comments can thus be seen through the prism of her narcissism.

As always, for the hard of understanding, this is an article about narcissism and the behaviours of a narcissist. It is not about race, it is not about gender (narcissists come from all races and all genders) and it is not about “good” or “bad” but rather an article enabling people to understand narcissism and how it manifests.

Recently, an interview was screened between The Duke and Duchess of Sussex and a reporter Tom Bradby. It was recorded in September 2019 when Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, along with their five month old son, Archie, toured Africa. A variety of noteworthy points arose from the interview.

The Duchess of Sussex has spoken of the unbearable pressure of life in the spotlight as a member of the Royal Family, saying it is no longer enough for her to “just survive” it. Naturally, being a new member to the Royal Family necessitates scrutiny and being thrust into the spotlight. Furthermore, as an actress who appeared on a popular television show “Suits” and also someone who knew she was marrying into the Royal Family was fully aware of the level of the limelight she was becoming exposed to. She did so knowingly and more importantly willingly, she did so willingly because her narcissism embraced this as a method of asserting control of a huge scale and drawing fuel from an extensive and varied fuel matrix. Of course, Meghan Markle is not aware that this is the case, her narcissism operates in an unconscious fashion, but it is the driving force behind her behaviour and her actions and words as previously analysed demonstrate her narcissism and also how she is unaware of the various manipulative behaviours she engages in, because in order for her narcissism to function, it must blind her to what she is actually doing.

A classic example of that related to the banana incident as highlighted in the article A Very Royal Narcissist 2 . Briefly, Meghan Markle signed bananas for sex workers with supposedly empowering and supportive messages. She consciously believed this was a kind and thoughtful gesture. She was unaware that it was grandiose, lacking emotional empathy, transgressing boundaries and was done to garner control of the situation by ensuring all eyes were on her and that she would manage her facade to look kind and considerate. All of those things were being done by her narcissism in an unconscious way, but she cannot see how her behaviour appears, because her narcissism blinds her to it.

The Duchess´comment about the unbearable pressure of her life in the spotlight (ironically enough being conveyed ahem through the spotlight – but of course such irony is lost on her) is actually a Pity Play designed to elicit sympathy for her predicament. This sympathy is fuel and signals to her that she has control. It is also being used to blame shift by stating that anything she does is not because she is to blame (the narcissist must always reject accountability) but is the fault of someone or something else. In this instance it is the pressure that is the problem and those generating the problem, namely the media (more on that in due course). The Duchess is triangulating between herself, viewers and the media pressure in order to assert control.

The Duchess,  said it is essential for her to “thrive” and “feel happy”, warning that simply enduring with unwanted scrutiny is “not the point of life”. This is another Pity Play.

The Duchess’s words, in which she insists she has “really tried” to adopt the British stiff upper lip before concluding it is “internally really damaging”, will lend weight to fears that the Sussexes are seeking a path away from traditional royal family life. (Pity Play. Threatened Loss. This is foreshadowing the threat of not following a traditional family life, which is again being done to assert control. Threatened Loss similar to the use of Future Faking is using a future event to assert control in the here and now. By suggesting that there may be a change in the future by seeking a path away from traditional royal family life, this asserts control by garnering a reaction through fuel (an emotional response from the interviewer, the listener, viewers and readers) , it is also foreshadowing potential isolation by removing Prince Harry (who is the Duchess´Intimate Partner Primary Source (the most important provider of fuel, character traits and residual benefits which are the Prime Aims of the narcissist) from control from other people who would interfere with the Duchess´control of him) and also Blame Shifting. The Blame Shifting is occasioned by rejecting accountability for the withdrawal (which is all about isolating Prince Harry from perceived threats to her control) by pinning there blame on the media. This of course has some plausibility (hence why the narcissism does this – it would be pointless saying “We are going to seek a period of isolation because the moon of made of cheese” as that would not make any sense.) owing to the fact that the media are seen as intrusive. However, if a normal person was taking this step, it WOULD be for reasons of avoiding media intrusion. However, where this action is taken by a narcissist, one looks at it through the prism of narcissism and this is why there is actually a different set of reasons governing this behaviour.

 

The programme which was broadcast by the British Broadcaster ITV, attracted inevitable comparison to the Panorama interview undertaken by her late mother-in-law Diana, Princess of Wales. This is Mirroring and Character Trait Acquisition. The narcissist has no true self and therefore copies the actions and behaviours of others in order to “fit in” and also for the purposes of control. It also exhibits grandiosity since the unconscious behaviour of mirroring Diana, Princess of Wales is done to place The Duchess on a platform alongside Diana and her venerated memory.

In the interview, Meghan Markle disclosed that her British friends had warned her away from Prince Harry when they were dating, telling her that the tabloids would “ruin her life”, she said she was naive not to believe them. (Blame shifting – this is a double hit of blame shifting. The Duchess is blaming once again the media and also her naivety. You may think that is she says she is naive she is actually accepting a degree of blame. She is not. Narcissism compartmentalises and whilst her admission may appear to be some form of acceptance of blame, her narcissism is actually saying “The naivety is at fault, not me, the naivety may look like part of me but actually it is not, so I can blame it and thus I remain free of accountability which means I remain in control and of course narcissism is all about remaining in control.”)

Insisting she does not object to fair scrutiny, the Duchess claimed her treatment in the press had been a “different beast” and said: “I never thought this would be easy, but I thought it would be fair.” (More Pity Plays and Blame Shifting)

 

The Duke and Duchess will now take six weeks away from Royal life later this year to focus on their family, splitting it between the UK and US. (This is the assertion of control by in effect providing a form of Silent Treatment. This decision will be driven by the Duchess and not Prince Harry, who is now in the devaluation stage with his wife, but is unable to see this. He will, as a consequence of the obscuring effect of his emotional thinking which is increased by his repeated and near daily interaction with his wife the narcissist, fail to use logic. He will fail to see what she actually is and instead as a consequence of her own instinctive manipulative behaviour and his obscuring emotional thinking not recognise that he is being manipulated into being isolated from his family and friends but instead believe that is the right thing to do because the press scrutiny is unbeatable. Note this, Prince Harry has been subjected to media scrutiny his entire life. He was the focus of hundreds of millions of people when he stood behind his mother´s coffin in the funeral cortege. He embraced this scrutiny through his Las Vegas frolics, his time in the army, his various charitable activities. There is no doubting that elements of that scrutiny will have been unwelcome to him, but much of it he has embraced and not found problematic. As a member of the Royal Family he knows it goes with the territory, so why is he reacting to it now? Has it got worse? No. Could it get any worse than being thrust into the glare of the media as a young boy following the sudden and horrific nature of his mother´s death? No. The change has arisen because someone else wants to blame media scrutiny and use it for the purposes of controlling Prince Harry – his wife. This is what we narcissists do. We must control everything around us and especially the IPPS. This is done insidiously, with subtlety and plausible deniability – it has to be that way in order to be effective. Prince Harry is unable to see this because he is in the grip of his ensnarement. he genuinely believes there is a problem with the press and his wife will be reinforcing this message to him in order to control him. )

They have previously been reported to be considering spending more time out of Britain, with the Duke saying living in Africa would be “amazing” if it were not for logistics making it too difficult.

Both the Duke and Duchess have recently launched separate legal battles against the tabloid press, with the Duke issuing an extraordinary statement earlier this month outlining their distress. (Provocation in order to assert control to the challenge presented by criticism manifesting form the press.)

Prince Harry has now spoken of his own mental health setbacks, and said: “I will not be bullied into playing the game that killed my mum.” (Valiant sentiments indeed, although he is actually directing his determination to wards the wrong source, it is the person stood beside him which is “bullying him” albeit in a very subtle and controlling manner.)

Recently there was a poignant public engagement for the royal couple at the WellChild awards, in which the Duke was overcome with emotion as he spoke of how becoming a father had given him a new appreciation of the struggles faced by seriously ill children and their carers.

In a speech to families at the awards for inspiring children, he said: “Last year when my wife and I attended [these awards] we knew we were expecting our first child – no one else did at the time, but we did – and I remember squeezing Meghan’s hand so tight during the awards.

“Both of us thinking what it would be like to be parents one day and more so, what it would be like to do everything we could to protect and help our child should they be born with immediate challenges or become unwell over time.”

“And now, as parents, being here and speaking to all of you pulls at my heart strings in a way I could have never understood until I had a child of my own.”

After needing to break off to fight back tears, while ceremony hostess Gaby Roslin held his hand, he added: “It has been over a decade since I first came to these Awards and every year they never fail to surprise and inspire me. Yet this year, it resonates in a different way, because now I’m a father.” (These words and Prince Harry´s reaction underpins his status as an empathic individual. The emotion demonstrated by him however also shows something else. The Duke is feeling the strain of his devaluation at the hands of his wife and his emotional reactions both in the interview with Bradby and at the Wellchild Awards shows that he, like all victims of narcissists, is in a vulnerable emotional position. Whether anybody will realise why this is and who is behind it, rather than mistakenly pinning the blame elsewhere, remains to be seen.)

The tabloids will destroy your life

Asked about the “pressure” she is under and the “brave face” the couple put on, the Duchess hesitated on camera before admitting the situation was “hard”. (Pity Play)

“I don’t think anybody could understand that,” she said. “In all fairness, I had no idea.

“Which probably sounds difficult to understand here.

“When I first met my now husband, my friends were really happy because I was so happy.

 

“But my British friends said to me: I’m sure he’s great but you shouldn’t do it because the British tabloids will destroy your life.

“And I very naively – I’m American we don’t have that there – thought what are you talking about? That doesn’t make sense, I didn’t get it. So yeah, it’s been complicated.”

Appearing to hold back tears, she said: “Not many people have asked if I’m okay. But it’s a very real thing to be going through behind the scenes.” (Pity Play, Blame Shifting, Turning on the Waterworks) (It is important to remember the distinction between Prince Harry becoming tearful and Meghan Markle doing the same. He is an empath and therefore his response is seen through the prism of being an empath, his is as a consequence of emotional empathy for others and his vulnerability. It is not done to assert control. Meghan Markle´s response is occasioned by her narcissism and the need for control. There is no emotional empathy (because she is a narcissist) instead her response arises because her narcissism dictates that turning on the waterworks is the appropriate response to appear to care and to garner sympathy (sympathy being a form of Fuel) and thus assert control.

Surviving, not thriving

On whether she could cope with life in the spotlight as it stands, and “put up with this”, the Duchess explained she hoped for more out of life as a newlywed and new mother.

“I’ve said for a long time to H – that’s what I call him – it’s not enough to just survive something, right?” she told the interviewer.

 

“That’s not the point of life. You’ve got to thrive, you’ve got to feel happy.

“I’ve really tried to adopt this British sensibility of a stiff upper lip. I’ve tried, I’ve really tried. (Blame shifting, Revision of History and Lie. Her repeated rejection of royal protocol and conventions, the behaviours shown at engagements, shows there has not been any adoption of this at all. As has been evidenced by other lies which has been uncovered (see A Very Royal Narcissist ) her narcissism will Revise History in order to maintain control.

“But I think that what that does internally is probably really damaging.

“The biggest thing that I know is that I never thought this would be easy. But I thought it would be fair. And that’s the part that’s really hard to reconcile.” (Pity Play and Grandiosity)

Of the future, she said: “I don’t know. You do just take each day as it comes.”

A Different Beast  

Pressed on the privileges of Royal life, in which public money and platform require some degree of media scrutiny, she conceded she could accept it “when things are fair”. (Pity Play – what the narcissism is really saying “I can accept it so long as I feel that I am in control).

“If I do something wrong, I’m the first one to say ‘oh my gosh, I’m so sorry, I would never do that’,” she said. (Facade management, Grandiosity, False Contrition)

 

“When people are saying things that are just untrue – they’ve been told they’re untrue but they’re still allowed to say them…I don’t know anyone in the world that would feel like that’s okay.  (This is a reaction to the threat to control.)

“And that’s different than just scrutiny. That’s…what would you call that? It’s a different beast, its a really different beast.

“I think the grass is always greener. You have no idea. It’s really hard to understand what it’s like.

“I know what it seems like it should be … It’s a very different thing.”

The Duchess did not expand on which tabloid stories, which include reports on the couple’s private jet use and public spending on Frogmore Cottage, she was referring to.

Both Duke and Duchess are now suing newspapers through existing legal channels, and have sought redress on some stories through press regulator IPSO. (Legal action is a form of asserting control.)

“The rest of our lives”

The interview raised inevitable questions about the future of the Sussexes’ lives in Britain, with previous reports suggesting they had once been considering an extended stay in Africa or more time in the Duchess’s home of America. (Threatened Loss, Separation and Isolation. The latter manipulation is a common response of the narcissist. The narcissist perceives a threat to his or her control from other individuals exerting control over their prize asset, namely the IPPS. The narcissist seeks to maintain control over the IPPS by smearing those people, monopolising the time of the IPPS and keeping them away from the influence and interaction of other people. It does not matter if the other people are family or friends, this is done, always under the auspices of it being the right thing to do for the IPPS victim and/or because the other people are nasty, unfair etc, so that the IPPS is separated and isolated from the very people who may be able to assist the IPPS victim and thus in turn threaten the narcissists control of that IPPS. The narcissist will, instinctively use this manipulation in order to keep control and remove the IPPS victim from perceived threats.)

Prince Harry was asked about living in Africa as a consequence of speculation about living away from the UK. He stated “I don’t know where we could live in Africa at the moment,” he said in an interview during the tour.

“We have just come from Cape Town. That would be an amazing place to be able to base ourselves, of course it would, but with all the problems that are going on there, I just don’t see how we would be able to really make as much difference as we want to without the issues and the judgment of how we would be with those surroundings.

“I think it is a very hard place to live when you know what is going on and then you are again slightly disconnected from it. (This is the logical response to the prospect of living elsewhere and Prince Harry would clearly prefer to remain in the UK, but his statement is as a consequence of making remarks which would accord with what the Duchess wants, whilst enabling him to also maintain his own views. The royal couple may not move away and most likely will not, all that matters is that intermittent absence and the threat of a permanent move will be used for the purposes of reinforcing control in the here and now, that desire for immediate control NOW (not in the past and not in the future) being a central aim of the narcissist.

 

In the interview, The Duchess described the trip as “a lot with a five month old”.

Asked whether it was tiring, she said: “Well life is, but any mom can relate to that. But he’s doing really well, he’s sleeping really well.”

On Archie’s meeting with Archbishop Desmond Tutu during the tour, the only time he was photographed on an official engagement, she said: “It’s not lost on us what a huge and significant moment that is.

“Archie will look back at that in so many years and realise he was so fortunate to have this moment with one of the best and most impactful leaders of our time. It’s really special.” (This is Character Trait acquisition whereby the experience of the child is utilised and commandeered by the narcissist parent for the purposes of asserting control and gathering  fuel (see I’m The Real Genius – The Examination of a Parental Narcissist

Speaking of the significance of her family coming to the very area scarred by apartheid, and her choice to describe herself as a “woman of colour” during her first speech of the trip, the Duchess said she hoped her marriage to the Duke would not be seen through the prism of race. (No, we are seeing it through the prism of narcissism).

“I would hope that the world will get to the point where you just see us as a couple who are in love,” she said. (Facade Management)

“I don’t wake up everyday and see us as anything other than being who I’ve always been. I’m Meghan and I married this incredible man. This to me is just part of our love story.” (Flattery)

Of her speech, in which she told women in a township she was there as “their sister”, she said: “For me, when I chose to add those words into the speech, it was really the last minute.  (Grandiosity, People As Extension of The Narcissist – see Why The Narcissist Wants To Make You His Extension ) 

“I said to Harry, ‘what do you think if I add this in?’ I don’t know, it just feels right.

“And he very kindly and supportively said if that’s what feels right then that’s what you should say.

“Because it’s true: like, before I was part of this [Royal] family that’s how I identified. With people and connection.

“As a mother now, as a wife now, but just as a woman – as a woman of colour – which has been brought to the forefront in a more prominent way.”

Perhaps the most revealing aspect of the interview was the response to Prince Harry  to reports of a rift between him and his brother William, Duke of Cambridge, by saying they were on “different paths”. He said he and Prince William have “good days” and “bad days”. He added: “We are brothers. We will always be brothers.

 

“We are certainly on different paths at the moment but I will always be there for him as I know he will always be there for me.”

(The admission that he and his brother, someone he has been very close to all of his life, is telling. Some siblings are less close as they become older owing to the obligations of their own immediate families, work and forging their own way in the world. However, it is evident in this instance that the reference to them being on different paths demonstrates a clear gap, a revealing space between Prince Harry and Prince William. Why has this gap emerged between two hitherto very close brothers? It is because both William and Kate recognise that there is something wrong with regard to the behaviour of Meghan Markle and that she is exhibiting undue influence on Prince Harry. It is doubtful that William and Kate recognise that Harry is in the grip of a narcissist but what has happened is as a consequence of

a. The fact William and Kate are in effect imposing a form of no contact. They have found Meghan´s behaviour problematic (see the previous A Very Royal Narcissist articles) , and

b. Harry is being isolated from them, as Meghan´s narcissism will have identified Kate and William as a threat to her control over Harry. Therefore she will encourage him to spend less time with his brother and sister-in-law (a trio who were often photographed together and clearly close). Yes, Harry has less time to be part of the trio owing to having a wife and son, but this goes beyond simple congestion in his life through increased obligations and responsibilities. He is in the grip of a narcissist and it is clear that Kate and William recognise that something is wrong. They may well have expressed their concerns to Harry or sought to spend more time with him. Meghan´s narcissism will instinctively recognise the threat posed by the couple (our narcissism operates in this way to ensure that control is assert at all times) and therefore she will position Harry further away from Kate and William.

This ITV interview was lauded as both interesting and revealing with regard to the lives of the Sussexes and it certainly was, but not for reasons widely recognised. It was revealing as it continues to demonstrate the narcissistic behaviour of Meghan Markle and the fact that Harry, now in devaluation, remain very much in the grip of a Very Royal Narcissist.

 

 

283 thoughts on “A Very Royal Narcissist – Part 3

  1. Beverly Molyneux says:

    Thank you for your reply.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      You are welcome.

  2. Beverly Molyneux says:

    HG–Thank you for these articles. It is very helpful to see your comments attached to well-publicized figures, as almost real-time illustrations. In regard to the future health of Prince Harry, and ESPECIALLY Archie, is there an avenue for you to convey your insights and expertise to the Royal Family with the goal of some type of rescue from RMM? I recognize there would be some substantial risk in crossing the streams between your “Tudor” life and your real life. Would this be something you would consider?

    1. HG Tudor says:

      If they seek my help, it will be given. It is not prudent of me to offer it.

  3. sea_nettles says:

    Well, not sure about Elizabeth the II, but Diana was Jewish as is Rachel Markle – so, Harry is Jewish as is his son.

  4. seanettlesoupsea_nettles says:

    White people are in power in their own f****ing countries. It isn’t difficult to understand. Why wouldn’t Estonians be the rulers of their people in Estonia? Or Britains be the rulers of Native Brits as well as those who are not Native Brits in their own countries?

    If women need help to achieve, how are they as capable as men? Retarded statement. Sounds like something you’d get in, “Intersectionalism in White-Dominated Russian Ballet 101”

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Incoming….

      1. Violetta says:

        Missed this exchange. Diana was Jewish? Who knew…

  5. Mel says:

    Having lived with and been abused in every way possible by an alcoholic narcissist, for years….I think you are so over-reaching with the assessment of a woman you do not know. Do I think Meghan may be on the narc spectrum, sure. But anyone who enters the entertainment industry has a degree of narcissism about them. Was Diana, her sainted self possibly one too, to a degree, absolutely! But you speak with to much authority about a woman, a couple and a life you truly know nothing about.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      You make a massive assumption in your observation and an erroneous one. You also fail to have regard to the detailed and sustained evidence. Yes, many individuals in the entertainment industry have narcissistic traits and there are far more narcissists in that industry than you may realise.

      ‘ was Diana one too, to a degree, absolutely’ does not make sense. You cannot be a narcissist to a degree, it’s like being pregnant, you are either are or you are not.

    2. NarcAngel says:

      Mel
      It’s interesting that you know nothing really about the couple or life either, but have decided that the analysis is “over-reaching”, and has been done with “too much authority” by someone who has studied them specifically and has experience with the disorder. Isn’t that just you going in the other direction based on less evidence?

  6. Jenna says:

    Hi HG!
    You ARE ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT! I had no interest in this story, but since you wrote about it, I read it and am able to see very clearly where the manipulations are taking place. You had predicted the future HG! Are you a political advisor or commenter? I do have a few questions though. Why does MM want strangers as her extension? (Regarding calling them “her sisters”). I read the article again about narcs making the IPPS the extension, but these are tertiary sources. So why would she see them as extensions of herself? Also, how is Harry being devalued? How do we know he is in the devaluation stage? What a learning experience this is! Thanks HG!

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Hello Jenna, thank you.
      1. I have some involvement in the political sphere.
      2. They are tertiary sources which are used for fuel and facade management.
      3. All appliances are extensions of the narcissist.
      4. He is being devalued as described in the articles which also demonstrates that he is in the devaluation stage. You only have to look at him as well to know that he is.

      1. Jenna says:

        Thank you HG!

        I thought the manipulations, salami slicing, isolation, etc. can occur in any stage, but does it only occur in devaluation? (I thought I understood this by now, always more to learn, hence these real life examples are great!). I did notice that Prince Harry looks very sad and worried these days. It makes me sad to see him like that. I think what I wanted to ask was: has Harry seen the mask slip (that’s what I always associate with devaluation- silent treatments, withholding affection, not responding to text messages etc.)?
        I’m so happy to be part of this community. You always have the most precise analyis. If any good has come out of ensnarement, it’s being connected with you here on your blog. Thanks for this wonderful place HG!

        1. HG Tudor says:

          You are welcome.

  7. RC says:

    Well given the events of the past couple of days I think we can safely say you have hit the nail on the head!!! And all done on the eve of Kate’s birthday to completely over shadow that – which should have been big news here in the UK.

    I have found this a really interesting read as a survivor of narcissistic abuse – I refuse to call myself a victim anymore because I won, he didn’t – and one who was isolated hundreds of miles away from close friends and family. I, and friends who understand narcissism, called this a long time ago. Isolation makes everything so hard because you are so encapsulated in a small world with no support system except the narcissist who makes you feel like they are all you need. Add a child into the mix and then fireworks will ensue. Without children it took me over 5 years to secure a divorce and financial settlement. She is now with flying monkey friends who just cause even more problems like the “a strong woman faces a challenge and winks at it” post from Jessica Mulroney. Retreated to Canada to leave the husband she “loves” so much to face the fallout alone, not bringing the child to spend time with his family instead choosing to leave him with a friend and nanny??? True love and support right there… I think not.

    Sadly I think Prince Harry is now drawn into a spiders web and it could take a long time to for him to see what is going on. I hope he finds the strength to re assert himself and find the support that his family and friends can give.

    I have seen so many posts saying how wonderful and strong Meghan is – “naive” posts from people who don’t understand true narcissism and it’s incredibly damaging effects on the victim.

    1. Rebecca Kilian says:

      I would just like to add that I’ve had two children I raised on my own. Born in South Africa , I made a plane trip every year to the US to see my family and never once complained about traveling 17 hours, sometimes longer, with my infant daughter, then I was 7mths. Pregnant with my son , and also traveled alone, my daughter being almost 2 by then. Then I traveled with them both. It would not even enter my mind to anticipate the trip as a hard time because of my children! I managed just fine.
      I eventually left my ex-husband, on my own with two children to come back to the US to live permanently. I never ever put myself first and never complained how difficult it was going to be, without any help or child support from my ex. I would never express anger or frustration to anyone that was geared in any way towards my children. I gladly took refuge in my difficult situation as I knew it was best for my children…,.and mm has only one child , we hardly ever see her with, and she has a nanny for goodness sake! And money! And she leaves him for weeks at a time….inconceivable to me. I also noticed she looked very uncomfortable holding her own son. At the polo match, as if she didn’t know how to.
      I knew that interview she did in Cape Town caught her off balance, as she did not know how to say, what she wanted to say civilly. All that nonsense that being a newlywed and having a baby was , she hesitated, all to much for her and no one even asked if she was okay? Also, the fact that she thought her lifestyle might be difficult, but maybe more fair….my goodness, she knew what she was getting into, which I find a fairytale, in its own right, Yet, she spent all that money, went through all the motions, only to act it all out with no respect to her new family….That interview was the first I really noticed, something was off. The Queen was and deservingly so, going to be very aghast at her for how she handled herself, and the interview, in front of the whole world! My goodness she let her class act slip for sure…I think she might have set this all up very nicely to suit (no pun intended) herself. Shame on her.

    2. Rebecca Kilian says:

      She also ruined, or thought she would take the limelight away from, was it Eugene’s wedding? By letting the cat out of the bag that day, by telling people she was pregnant…..really? She couldn’t wait a few days to reveal the news of her pregnancy…that speaks volumes about a persons character. In my book, anyway.

    3. Lise says:

      I see all this. Plus, she is giving the Royal Family a visual of non-compliance. The child between them is in another country; he was not brought back ‘home’ to Britain. I see this as a silent statement of separation threat, in another country no less, to come if he/ they do not do as she dictates. The baby is now a major pawn in her play.

  8. Delilah says:

    Hg, is Meghan Markle a midranger or a greater?

    1. HG Tudor says:

      What do you think Delilah?

  9. lisk says:

    HG, please check out what I just read in the DM, “Uncle’s shocking attack on ‘underclass’ Meghan”:

    ‘It could be that she’s bossy towards staff because she’s been spoilt by my brother,’ Mike says.

    ‘He doted on her a lot — more than he did his other children.

    ‘Tom spent more time with her and helped her in school and stuff like that.

    ‘Tom has more of a rapport with her than with the rest of the kids. That’s a problem.

    ‘She’s a prima donna because he treated her really well.’

    1. Violetta says:

      The Golden Child.
      Or worse.

  10. Anna says:

    Am I the only one who thinks that Prince Harry looked to be trying to swallow a laugh at that WellChild event and smothered it with what everyone assumed was tears? Harry may have started out as the victim (and will probably end up as the victim) but now he is definitely the flying monkey. Poor Archie is doomed!. A controlling narcissistic mother and an emotional immature permissive father – what a mess.

    1. lisk says:

      Sounds like Archie could be the next HG!

  11. abusymindisaterriblethingtowaste says:

    Must be a living #ell having no flying monkeys inside the family 😁👍

  12. Kiki says:

    Excellent HG

    Everything you say about your kind is sooo true
    It must be very amusing for you when another lesser narc attempts to manipulate you before they spot what you are ???

    Kiki❤️

  13. Chihuahuamum says:

    Idk the more i keep seeing headlines i cant help but see harry as a partial victim. He may be enjoying the spotlight a smidge. Im really on the fence with it. Meghan is definitely the narcissist but i do think harry wanted to climb out of his brothers shadow. He will never be king but he can gain popularity and attention.
    I hate sounding judgemental but i also dont just assume hes innocent in all of it. I guess time will reveal.

    1. Violetta says:

      Chihuahuamum: See Blind Gossip, “Wounded Little Boy.” He THINKS they’re on the same side….

  14. Rain says:

    HG Tudor,
    you said Harry is in the ‘devaluation’ stage.
    What is the next stage ?
    Thank you.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Most likely a respite period.

      1. Kim e says:

        Respite period will be next and another baby!!!!!!!!!!! God forbid.

      2. SMH says:

        I think he’s already getting one – today (Friday) MM seemed all chipper and well put together (unlike that horrendous purple muumuu she was wearing right after she returned). Today she brought Harry with her to some gender thing and made an idiotic comment about women’s empowerment not being possible without men.

        1. Hope says:

          How is women’s empowerment not being possible without men idiotic? The current power structure is male-dominated. Women can’t establish equality on our own. That’s like saying civil rights weren’t possible without white people support is idiotic. It’s true, because white people are in power. That’s like saying gay rights aren’t possible without hetero support is idiotic. That’s also true because heteros are in power and the majority. What makes you think true female empowerment is possible without male support? She is a narcissist, she’s not stupid.

          1. SMH says:

            Hope, Context. Follow the thread.

          2. Hope says:

            I read the whole thing.

  15. E&L says:

    HG,
    What would you identify as Harry’s mental health issues? The trauma of having lost his mother publicly and violently at a young, formative age? His parents tenuous marriage and subsequent divorce? Possessing a large empathic reservoir, therefore subjected to sustained bouts of detrimental, emotional thinking? Having a narcissistic father?

    And/or does he have a diagnosed condition such as dysthymia, depression, anxiety? I was not aware that it was public knowledge he had mental health issues. Thanks in advance if you are willing to respond!

    These “True Tudorscope Stories” are great!

    1. HG Tudor says:

      His empathic emotional thinking allied with the emotional responses it generates, such as anxiety, risk-taking and of course, susceptibility to the ensnarement of a narcissist with all that follows.

      1. Alexissmith2016@gmx.co.uk says:

        HG, why does emotional thinking promote risk taking?

        1. HG Tudor says:

          Because it contravenes logic.

          1. Alexissmith2016@gmx.co.uk says:

            Blood hell! Thanks! So Ns are more susceptible to risk taking to pass the boredom and they need fuel. Es are more likely to partake in risk taking to destroy the anxiety they experience (often brought on by an N) and because normals don’t suffer the extremities they sit comfortably in the middle not needing to risk take and wondering why the fuxk others do. are you sure you’re not God? I mean if all Ns were like you I could understand how they feel omnipotent but they’re not. They just feel it.

  16. PrincessSuperEmpath says:

    Violetta. Even more change other than from Battenburg to Mountbatten: Battenburg changed to Mountbatten was Philip`s maternal family surname, anyway, that he had changed to, smothering his own German lineage surname of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg. When he married Elizabeth, he was not allowed to give his children, Charles, etc., his German surname, decreed by his cousin Elizabeth (3rd cousin, I think?), once again because of Philip`s German heritage and how his real name sounded to British ears, and so Charles, etc. are known as Windsor as Queen Elizabeth says she styles her offspring as Windsor, rather than her husbands Philip`s German last name of: Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg, and years later Elizabeth allowed Charles, etc. to at least be called Mountbatten-Windsor. So Princes Charles and Andrew and Prince William and Prince Harry are in actuality Princes William and Harry Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glucksburg. As well as their children. And now including little Archie Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glucksburg. But now Mountbattens and Windsors for more `palatable` consumption, of course. Any Brits or historians on here, please help out. This is your area of history, not mine. lol. I`m tired. I just don’t like fairy tales, such as a man giving up a kingdom for one woman, and that dislike has dragged all of this up. Oh well. Hahaha.

    1. Violetta says:

      Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg. If it were a cheese, it would be delicious.

      Phil’s mum was nuts but kind of cool. Stood up to the Nazis when a lot of people wouldn’t.

      1. Renarde says:

        True dat.

      2. PrincessSuperEmpath says:

        Violetta, I also read about Philip`s odd life, for these posts about the German angle of that family, and this is all of your fault, for saying a man refused a throne for a woman, and I had to kill that fairy tale immediately. And after a bit of digging around after overpowering Google`s search engine diversions, I discovered the lineage names, even Philip`s name of Schleswig-Holstein–Glücksburg, while drinking my Pure Rooibos Red Herbal Tea. I am adamantly against fairy tales these days. But, so much history came out of looking into the German lineage, all because of your comment to HG regarding David and Wallis, that he abdicated just for her. So funny. Anyway, I wrote a Poem for you, Violetta. Here goes: Philip Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg, Married a Queen and He Did Obey Her, Smothering The Names of Their Actual Lineage, They `Style` Themselves, Now, as the House of Windsor. ~~The End. Hahahaha. It’s all Violetta`s fault, I will say to them, when they come to take me away to the dank dark dungeon,

        1. Violetta says:

          PSE: Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea minima culpa.

          1. PrincessSuperEmpath says:

            Violetta: Can you imagine me in University? I was constantly stumbling into facts that were sort of beyond the scope of what was intended for me to know, in one way or the other. I have no idea why! And, early on, I would ask: but what about this? And I would ask, but what about that? Yeah, right. I learned to keep quiet very early on, the hard way. Finally, my warning bells developed and I would hear them ring when I would stumble onto something that caught my fascination and I would say to myself, hmmmmm, I better not bring this up, or hmmmm, I better not bring that up. etc. I wisened up. Hahaha. I learned to practice the desired mantra in every subject. I learned to be very careful, if I wanted a good grade. Hahaha! In University, I would probably have said, to get a good grade depending on the class being taught, just for an example: Yep, the House of Windsor. The Windsors. No more needs to be said other than that, right? Of course not. I have no questions. Subject matter mastered. Chop, Chop. Next topic, please. Hahaha. Unbelievable.

  17. Farkle Family Wars (@FarkleW) says:

    On the quote ”“Archie will look back at that in so many years and realise he was so fortunate to have this moment with one of the best and most impactful leaders of our time. It’s really special.” (This is Character Trait acquisition whereby the experience of the child is utilised and commandeered by the narcissist parent for the purposes of asserting control and gathering fuel” Very interesting, When she said that it sounded way ”off ” to me, so thanks for breaking it down. I am wondering if you watched the interaction between Meghan and the baby, and your thoughts of using the baby as a PR prop. I would like to hear this fleshed out more… Your thoughts on keeping the baby ”private ” in Gr. Britain, and why she holds the baby pressed to her chest all the time, and why she was walking the baby and holding it’s hands so it could not move. In fact, a breakdown of each time the baby was presented.

    1. Rebecca Kilian says:

      Exactly.,,,,my thoughts as well! I wrote quite a comment on this very issue amongst others, above your comment , quite a bit above your comment. A must read. Love to hear your thoughts. Thanks,

  18. Charlene says:

    What does IPPS mean? Also, what us meant by “devaluing”? I missed that somewhere. Your articles are fascinating.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Intimate Partner Primary Source ´husband/wife, cohabitation partner, may also be boyfriend or girlfriend.

    2. Violetta says:

      I’m going to have to go back to the archives and read them all. HG, do you prefer that we post comments only on the newer articles, rather than something from 2017?

      1. HG Tudor says:

        You may post where you wish.

        1. Violetta says:

          Thank you.
          There are many reasons why readers who wander here tend to stay, but I think your approach works in my case because so much of the info on other sites is abstract. I can’t connect it with real people or with myself. You often use the genre of a dramatic monologue; it’s like Browning’s “My Last Duchess” or “Soliloquy in a Spanish Cloister” or a Poe narrator: you may not approve of the character’s actions, but you’re in his head and it gives you the dynamic. Good actors don’t just figure out their own character’s motivation; they have to know what the other characters in a scene want. Your character may not know, but the actor HAS to know, or the scene dies.

          When I looked back over various situations and the differing flavors of narc I encountered, trying to use information from other sites, I still couldn’t understand why some people were so destructive, seemingly at random. “You’re letting so-and-so live rent-free in your head,” the experts chide, but now I know that’s exactly what narcs do. They set up camp in your head and never leave willingly, even when they move on to the next victim. I didn’t understand my part in the script because I didn’t understand what the other character wanted from me–until I’d read several of your articles.

          Once you see the pattern, you can’t un-see it. Those seemingly disparate people had one thing in common: they sought fuel, and prized it above anything else, even their own professional success or personal happiness.

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